Aero Precision M5 AR-10 5,000 Round Test

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  • čas přidán 20. 06. 2024
  • Can the Aero Precision M5 AR-10 make it through 5,000 rounds? What’s the ballistic performance like? How many malfunctions? Would we recommend it as an entry-level.308 DMR-style rifle? Lucas puts this rifle to the test in five different loadouts across numerous range days. This is not a torture test. This is a consumer test - running the rifle in the same way a customer would.
    00:00:00 Intro
    00:01:14 The “Test” Parameters
    00:09:16 Loadout One
    00:10:42 Day One - Groups
    00:16:29 First Malfunction?
    00:17:38 Resume Testing
    00:27:19 Loadout Two
    00:29:33 Day Two
    00:34:11 Bolt Release Set Screw Backing Out
    00:35:48 Second Malfunction
    00:37:00 Set Screw Backing Out Again
    00:38:54 Day Two Recap
    00:41:13 Loadout Three
    00:44:37 Day Three + Groups
    00:47:38 Handguard Issue
    00:49:14 Resume Testing
    00:50:25 Failure to Feed + First Lubing
    00:52:50 Long Range w/ Triggercam
    00:54:20 Day Three Recap
    00:57:05 Day Four & Loadout Four
    00:57:29 Catastrophic Malfunction
    01:05:55 Resuming the Test
    01:12:12 Loadout Five
    01:16:35 Day Five
    01:17:30 More Malfunctions
    01:18:10 Group Tests
    01:22:26 Even More Malfunctions
    01:25:14 Second Catastrophic Malfunction
    01:27:01 Final Thoughts + Contact with Aero
    01:51:40 Shoulder Problems...
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  • @AeroPrecision
    @AeroPrecision Před rokem +10233

    First of all, RIP Lucas’s shoulder. We have a few points to make, but in general, we look forward to getting the rifle (specifically the BCG) back in hand to understand where and why it’s weak points were exposed during this endurance test. We believe in continuous improvement and will be examining where we can keep developing on this platform.
    Our goal is to offer an affordable and reliable base for an AR10 setup. Whether that be for plinking, long-range shooting, hunting, SHTF, or other. This is a rifle platform we have been offering very successfully for years and truly believe it’s great for the vast majority of users. This is proven by the thousands of customers that are successfully and consistently running M5 configured rifles to date. With that being said, the rifle should be built to your specific use case.
    Our thoughts…
    1. If you are building a rifle for extreme use, we would highly recommend getting the rifle in to it’s final configuration with whatever parts and components you prefer, testing it, and then securing that configuration. Items such as the bolt catch screw and handguard screws can benefit from blue Loctite, especially on the AR10 platform where there is much more force involved. We don’t generally do this from the factory as we aren’t offering a complete “out of the box” rifle and most M5 users are building from scratch, upgrading components, etc. Loctite can be your best friend and your worst enemy.
    2. If you are shooting an AR10/M5 rifle suppressed, we highly recommend taking that type of use into account when building and selecting components. There are a couple different components that can and do help lower carrier velocity in the case of suppressed use. What this exact formula is will vary depending on use-case, but generally a rifle or A5 buffer system can greatly help on these large frame rifles. Adjustable gas blocks are another great solution if your use-case permits.
    3. We specifically recommend PMAGs with the M5 platform. Through years of use, we have seen the most consistent success with PMAGs and the development of the lower receiver was done specifically with these magazines.
    4. Maintenance is important. We understand the point of this specific test, but even military testing protocols require maintenance on this classification of firearm at round counts well before any critical failures occurred here. Specifically, if you run the rifle until it’s dry and fails to operate, you are introducing excessive wear on areas such as the BCG and shortening the lifespan of the part. We would not recommend shooting the rifle 2300+ rounds without maintenance. The BCG was also purchased as a standalone part where there is no lube from the factory as we do not lubricate BCGs that go into individual packaging. This means the rifle ran for 2300 rounds with no lube whatsoever. This point alone could have drastically changed the outcome with the BCG.
    5. The BCG specifically is an opportunity area for improvement not just for Aero Precision, but for the AR10 platform in general. We utilize what we would consider the industry standard design for AR10/AR308 BCGs. We have been developing a more robust design that we are confident would perform better in this testing and we look forward to bringing that to market in the future. The current BCG offerings on the market, including ours, is suitable for most users. BUT, there is opportunity here.
    None of these are intended to be excuses, but rather are what we think about internally when we review this and consider how we would approach this testing from a “scientific” standpoint. We also are interested to see this testing conducted on competitor products as well. We had some great conversations with Lucas and team at Trex Arms, respect the hell out of them for this thorough content, and look forward to follow-up discussions on this platform.

    • @MOTOSCOUTtv
      @MOTOSCOUTtv Před rokem +2017

      I mean, just the fact that the BCG ran for 2300+ rounds with no lube is mind blowing in itself.

    • @lhp2a
      @lhp2a Před rokem +199

      I'm planning my AR-10 build. Several weeks ago, I was on Aero's website looking at uppers. I noticed that by default the BCG and Charging handle are sold separately.
      My question: is this more in-line with your, and I'm paraphrasing, "the customer will want to customize" mentality or do you not trust your BCG vendor?
      I realize this question sounds snarky. I realize you probably can't answer it exactly how you may want to. But a lot of people who have some experience in the world are gonna be thinking it.
      For the record, Aero's upper is still high on my list of consideration.

    • @kazager11
      @kazager11 Před rokem +170

      Do you feel that the bcg failure was "caused" by lack of maintenance or "accelerated" by lack of maintenance? Is that the failure you would predict? Pushing it to failure seems like useful info. Identifying areas that need extra care is important. I personally do not see their issues as anything that would cause me hesitation buying Aero. I did SMH at not using PMags!

    • @sjoracer2934
      @sjoracer2934 Před rokem +159

      I think that most people still respect the hell out of everything that Aero does, especially since most people won't shoot nearly that many rounds of .308 through their M5. Still, it will be interesting if any change has to occur due to the test that has unfolded. I am interested in seeing how other 1200-dollar Ar10s run through this torture test as well.

    • @AeroPrecision
      @AeroPrecision Před rokem +530

      @@lhp2a that's a valid question. We trust our vendors or we would not keep a part in the market. It does make it more difficult for us to speak to right away though until we have the part in hand and can review. What we can say is that there are thousands and thousands of these BCGs in circulation and it is a rare instance that we would see a firing pin shear off. Additionally, we have BCGs with many more rounds on it than done in this testing, but we would never run one for 2000+ rounds dry. We can't speak toward how that would perform as that's never a test we would do. I think that plays a big role here. You would not run your car without oil as you understand that would seize your engine.
      We offer them separately from the upper simply because we cater to the builder, and we don't want to force someone's hand on having to purchase our part. We would obviously love for customers to use our parts solely, but we believe in supporting customers that want to truly customize every part to their liking.

  • @scottydrake8535
    @scottydrake8535 Před rokem +649

    Can we congratulate the camera team for creating there first full length movie with some badass shots!!! Great job TREX team

    • @jameshayes3713
      @jameshayes3713 Před rokem +14

      I know! The Cinematography performed by the Trex guys is simple amazing. All conducted in a hot range too!

    • @waylonk2453
      @waylonk2453 Před rokem +8

      The shot that stood out to me 38:27 is the one where the camera travels the whole length of the 700yd range. Then, we see the aerial cam and Lucas cam sync up with each other side by side in a way that I've never seen before. Really brilliant these guys are.

    • @jaydeveas2930
      @jaydeveas2930 Před rokem +6

      The background music was a great match for the progression.

    • @mcdblhndl
      @mcdblhndl Před rokem +3

      Amen to that! Absolutely incredible!

    • @LightBrand
      @LightBrand Před rokem +1

      The camera guy is the best shooter at T.REX

  • @colincampbell2924
    @colincampbell2924 Před rokem +320

    Found this video AFTER just ordering this exact M5 configuration. This video actually makes me more confident in my decision to purchase. 2300+ rounds dry before malfunctioning is impressive. As a former infantryman I can tell you, you get back from the Qualification range, weapon cleaning/maintenance, you get back from patrol....weapon cleaning/maintenance, it's 5pm on a Friday back in garrison.....you guessed it, weapon cleaning/maintenance lol. All at way lower round counts and CLP is slathered on from a commercial spray bottle. Screws backing off, I personally always blue loctite my critical component screws on my personal systems. Would love to see the same type of test on the Gucci AR10s like LaRue, LMT, LWRC, etc. And even some other budget minded models, like diamondback and similar. Only gripe I have with AERO is me wanting them to have ALL barrels they sell to be dimpled for easier gasblock installs, that's it. But that's purely a convenience complaint. Keep up the good work AERO.

    • @93jcoop
      @93jcoop Před rokem

      I just got my M5 20" in this week. I would have liked if they continued the test with a different BCG to see if it is an issue specifically with AP BCGs.

    • @manictiger
      @manictiger Před 11 měsíci +8

      Yeah, they're good deals. A lot of the issues he outlined will double the price-tag, if they're actually solved.
      Adjustable gas block for suppressed? Costs.
      JP Enterprises ultralight BCG and captured spring for reduced recoil? Costs.
      Criterion chrome-plated barrel for extended barrel life? Costs.
      People that talk crap about "gucci rifles" don't understand that some of them are actually superior... At a cost.

    • @isaactrujillo76
      @isaactrujillo76 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@manictigerI think he’s aware of the costs of ‘Gucci’ rifles. Dude wants to see a comparison based on those differences.

    • @manictiger
      @manictiger Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@isaactrujillo76
      He didn't state that. He said he wanted more from the same system. A manufacturer isn't going to add an entire new process to make something that costs twice as much, unless they think there will be a lot of buyers.

    • @isaactrujillo76
      @isaactrujillo76 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@manictiger I’m referring to the original commenter we are commenting under.

  • @TheJeffRankin
    @TheJeffRankin Před rokem +104

    This video has sold me on getting an Aero 308. The way this was handled solidified my confidence in your company and product. Thanks to both TRex Arms and Aero Precision.

  • @MrGible
    @MrGible Před rokem +2578

    You shot 5,000 rounds of 308, grew stubble and began exercising. Truly 308 is God's cartridge

    • @TREXARMS
      @TREXARMS  Před rokem +491

      I couldn't even get to 5000 with this gun lol

    • @MrGible
      @MrGible Před rokem +31

      @@TREXARMS so true

    • @markrenton3941
      @markrenton3941 Před rokem +66

      If only God would somehow standardize the round across ammo manufacturers. SAAMI spec apparently is increasingly becoming one of those "not really a rule, more like a guideline" things.

    • @1172603
      @1172603 Před rokem +11

      @@TREXARMS I see the sweet water shirt do you play guitar

    • @markrenton3941
      @markrenton3941 Před rokem +5

      @@smiletrainofficial You must've missed the joke.

  • @DAbrahamMax
    @DAbrahamMax Před rokem +369

    I hope people appreciate how much work goes into something like this... and they're putting it out there FOR FREE God Bless

    • @TREXARMS
      @TREXARMS  Před rokem +86

      We have even more material on this project on our site too

    • @NoNo_IStay
      @NoNo_IStay Před rokem +22

      @@TREXARMS The People's people. Much love from MO sticks

    • @TREXARMS
      @TREXARMS  Před rokem +18

      Already am.

    • @blantant
      @blantant Před rokem +7

      People don't understand return on investment

    • @iPervy
      @iPervy Před rokem +5

      @@blantant Hm seems to me trex has return on investment on a lower priority.
      Companies that vaalue a greater empahsis on it would have gotten the gun sponsored as well as the ammo. Say they shot thousands of rounds followed by a shooting montage with maybe a change in shirt. Also since they want moree sponsorships in the future theyll say the ol "shot x rounds with no malfunctions! g2g!.. Also thank you to shadow legends!" que another montage of posing and rifle at different angles.

  • @mattlewandowski73
    @mattlewandowski73 Před rokem +89

    I would like to see the PSA PA10 put through the same testing soon(ish) as it would be a good comparison of the two budget AR10s prior to branching out into other platforms.

    • @nohateitsjustyoutube8698
      @nohateitsjustyoutube8698 Před rokem +2

      Yeah 300 black out PSA would be nice

    • @PBRstreetgang88
      @PBRstreetgang88 Před rokem +1

      Get a Thunder Guns LLC AR10. You’ll get it, it will jam every shot. . . And you’ll never hear from them again.

    • @StuntmanPrecious
      @StuntmanPrecious Před rokem +1

      DPMS
      Panther Arms AR-10

    • @Steven-gv1ke
      @Steven-gv1ke Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@@StuntmanPreciousDon't forget the Ruger SFAR

    • @alanmeyers3957
      @alanmeyers3957 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@PBRstreetgang88another brick and mortar sized manufacturer with their name on cheap garbage, hope you learned a lesson. Aero is a quality manufacturer, they do however take shortcuts in their accessories which can give a manufacturer a bad name.

  • @bmd1825
    @bmd1825 Před 9 měsíci +41

    So glad I purchased all my build parts for my AR-10 M5 in 308 from AP. Their response to this video is top notch and makes me feel like this is an upper tier manufacturer. This will be my first build for an AR-10 and excited to match the pieces together and have a formidable weapon.
    I know this has been stated many times but, to run 2300+ rounds on a BCG with the kind of recoil experienced is impressive . Especially, straight out of the “ box” and not lubricated or minimally at best.
    Thanks for the video and looking forward to many more.🇺🇸

    • @AndreNUTZDEEZ
      @AndreNUTZDEEZ Před 2 měsíci

      That’s actually sad. You think they’re a upper tier manufacturer all because of they commented on a video? You don’t see top quality manufacturers commenting on CZcams videos for a reason 🤣🤣 you think aero is top notch when they’re budget cheap, the BCG couldn’t get pass 2k rounds. You think aero is top notch ?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I wonder how many others looked at your comment and laugh at you like I did

    • @AndreNUTZDEEZ
      @AndreNUTZDEEZ Před 2 měsíci

      That’s cool your first “build” for a Ar10 was a aero🤣🤣just like all the other poors🤣🤣my first “build” for a Ar10 was my Daniel defense. DD5V4. hilarious AP owners think aero is top notch enjoy your rifle and life 😂😂😂😂

    • @stryderhyu
      @stryderhyu Před měsícem

      ​@AndreNUTZDEEZ what's even more sad is your ability to articulate yourself in written language.

  • @MFJared
    @MFJared Před rokem +387

    This is an incredible amount of data collection for an extremely common "off the rack" firearm. No boutique add-ons or modifications, no cinematic mud-test type of gimmicks. This is good science, setting up trials and running the tests. Man. It's such an inspiring sight to see that ya'll went through such a diligent testing curriculum, I hope the information collected is used to better develop this high-potential firearm.

    • @Mygg_Jeager
      @Mygg_Jeager Před rokem +10

      Mud tests aren't a gimmick though. They're a realistic test of how a fire arm will behave in field conditions, in worst case scenarios.

    • @bthemedia
      @bthemedia Před rokem +10

      1:46:20 and tested with “no maintenance” 😮

    • @MegaAndy93
      @MegaAndy93 Před rokem +1

      @@Mygg_Jeager Yes for a military unit, sure that makes sense. As a consumer, no. Most of us are going to use AR-15's in 5.56 as a SHTF rifle. If you want an AR-10 as a AHTF rifle, most of them on the market are not the right choice.

    • @Mygg_Jeager
      @Mygg_Jeager Před rokem +3

      @@MegaAndy93 For SHTF, mud is even MORE of an issue. Because you're not gong to have access to high pressure air hoses, hot running water, or a limitless supply of cleaning agents like we have in the military.
      Direct impingement can only go so far with CLP and lubricant. I doubt you'll get the full 8,000 round barrel life out of a direct impingement AR15 in a SHTF, because the housing, mag well, bolt carrier assembly, and trigger group will gradually fill up with so much dust, dirt, mud, sand, debris, silica concrete dust, bark chips, and carbon particles that the entire system will seize up eventually.
      Unless you're planning on literally never leaving the confines of your bunker or armored vehicle, which seems unlikely.

    • @matthews852
      @matthews852 Před rokem +1

      “SHTF” lol. None of you are gonna have retirement $$ if you keep dressing up and playing make-believe..

  • @IRONMECH170
    @IRONMECH170 Před rokem +298

    The fact that you guys as a company went to the lengths of making this video, especially on the monetary side of it speaks absolute volumes to why T.Rex is absolutely invaluable to this community. Thank you, seriously guys.

    • @forkthepork
      @forkthepork Před rokem +3

      Won't they double their money with this vid?

    • @IRONMECH170
      @IRONMECH170 Před rokem +8

      @@forkthepork That'd be the hope, but there are a lot of factors that make it a complete gamble from a business aspect. The primary gain of sale may very well go to Aero Precision, if anything. The pay off of the investment for T.Rex in making this isn't on their books, it's in bolstering the community.

    • @iDad7276
      @iDad7276 Před rokem

      Your ass Kissing doesn’t change the facts. It’s a DPMS LR308 NOT a Stoner AR10. He is comparing apples and tacos. He may sell a perfected DPMS high dollar whore. No one dumps 2800$ in consecutive rounds in an ordinary DPMS LR308 without cleaning lube care and breaking it in. Unless you are worth what this prick is and can Do whatever. This video sell more of his shit and solves nothing for the ordinary person but make them worry and rack up more credit card debt. Asinine all the way around. Aero is just fine.

    • @SveinMorkDahl
      @SveinMorkDahl Před rokem

  • @ivaniuk123
    @ivaniuk123 Před 10 měsíci +77

    It would be interesting to see how a high end 308 rifle that's supposed to be combat ready perfms after 5k rounds... like the sig spear.

    • @ioannisstrategos221
      @ioannisstrategos221 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Agreed. If that one lasted the full 5k without any serious or catastrophic failures, that would be impressive, and make it a little more arguable that the pricetag is worthwhile. Hope they decide on doing it sometime.

    • @Steven-gv1ke
      @Steven-gv1ke Před 7 měsíci +2

      Or the Ruger SFAR

    • @ryanguldbrandsen7672
      @ryanguldbrandsen7672 Před 7 měsíci

      Or dd5v3

    • @chasehanson1643
      @chasehanson1643 Před 7 měsíci +5

      I wanna see the sig 716i tread

    • @alp3274
      @alp3274 Před 4 měsíci

      I'd like to see 5k rounds out of all the above mentioned rifles. I'm looking to buy one, not sure what to get.

  • @jonpalder
    @jonpalder Před rokem +214

    I’ve got to believe that if your life depended on it, you’d never neglect a piece of equipment this way.

    • @StuntmanPrecious
      @StuntmanPrecious Před rokem +15

      That’s exactly what I was saying… even the letter to aeroprecisionusa, is one sided, as they were never told about the neglect in cleaning

    • @peterisrael2012
      @peterisrael2012 Před 11 měsíci +4

      And didn’t they run it dry ?

    • @owen3455
      @owen3455 Před 11 měsíci +4

      I bet it would of last long if they actually took care of it

    • @simonbelmont548
      @simonbelmont548 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Nah, ARs are trash. AK all the way.

    • @jth_printed_designs
      @jth_printed_designs Před 10 měsíci

      At a minimum even the most idiotic person would still spray the outside of the BCG with some lube.

  • @Regular_Guy_Training_LLC
    @Regular_Guy_Training_LLC Před rokem +152

    I find it admirable that Areo is enthusiastically taking this data to pull as much as humanly possible from it, you don't see that often.
    Good to see I'm not alone in the multi thousand round tests that reveal the good and the bad.
    Great job guys.

    • @robertcox4346
      @robertcox4346 Před rokem

      I sent this to T.REX ARMS reply to my comment and it seems to have disappeared... so I am copy/pasting it here in hopes someone will notice. Have a wonderful holiday season FireArms community! "@𝚃𝙴𝚇𝚃 𝙼𝙴👉 ±⓵⓽⓹⓵⓹⓶⓹⓹⓹⓼⓸ I replied to this and the comment seems to have disappeared? Strange... I don't have a phone ATM, and I offered you two Aero M5's with UBR stocks and Geissele SSA's... one has a CMV barrel, the other has a Stainless barrel, @ 140 rounds on the CMV 10 slow rounds on the Stainless. Was going to have the stainless nitrided at 60-80 rounds to test durability and accuracy/viability of stainless compared to CMV. You may have both M5's as well as two 1st gen RMR's 1 MOA and one Trijicon 1-8 scope with Bobro mount to add to your test weapons, so you won... send me a PM, all I ask is you pay for shipping... Have a wonderful holiday!"

  • @ForestWW
    @ForestWW Před rokem +234

    This is a whole movie. A documentary. I could watch this over and over. Lucas please give us more of this content. This is what the community wants. You’re in the top 3 best 2A educators EVER.

    • @ericfugal6648
      @ericfugal6648 Před rokem +1

      They don’t make money of CZcams videos, all their CZcams content is paid for by them and uploaded for free with no returns out of courtesy. Please be more considerate before demanding free 2 hour videos from someone.

    • @sancfireactual307
      @sancfireactual307 Před rokem

      Yes being stupid enough to get flamed by the company is what I want to see more of.

    • @ForestWW
      @ForestWW Před rokem +5

      @@ericfugal6648Duh he explained that. Lucas literally asked us if we liked this content or not, and asked what we wanna see. I’ve been supporting them since 2019. I’m even in Tennessee.

    • @ForestWW
      @ForestWW Před rokem

      @@sancfireactual307 Elaborate??

    • @jameshayes3713
      @jameshayes3713 Před rokem

      Welcome to the club. Good to see a new comer

  • @rutleyj
    @rutleyj Před 7 měsíci +4

    Videos like this are what CZcams needs more of.

  • @Harmless_medic
    @Harmless_medic Před rokem +23

    Daniel Defense AR10, I think, would be a great comparison, as it would (hopefully) be a great baseline for what a battle ready AR10 would look like that's still obtainable to the public.

  • @TheAjh334
    @TheAjh334 Před rokem +132

    I’m not gonna lie, You have truly now set the standard on what a “product review” should be. I would love to see more of these in the future if possible!

  • @stephenyip826
    @stephenyip826 Před rokem +494

    Lucas : "We're not gonna be mag dumping into trash. We're gonna be shooting like how you would be shooting."
    Me an Intellectual : "Now that's were you're wrong."

    • @TREXARMS
      @TREXARMS  Před rokem +91

      😂😂

    • @no_step_on_snek9796
      @no_step_on_snek9796 Před rokem +30

      Hahaha on point. My current savings goal is to buy enough land to take a dozer and dig out a shoot hole so I can mag dump into trash with my friends 🤘

    • @strangemayc
      @strangemayc Před rokem +6

      lol literally🤣

    • @Vuntermonkey
      @Vuntermonkey Před rokem +28

      I'm a Navy vet and received firearms training (land and shipboard). I learned WAY more by shooting trash then I ever did in the Navy.

    • @PureCountryof91
      @PureCountryof91 Před rokem

      *me with an AR-10 and cinder blocks*

  • @generalkaosthedestroyer3452
    @generalkaosthedestroyer3452 Před 7 měsíci +3

    This video was very well done and I appreciate the hell out of it. I first watched it about 10 months ago and it began my journey of building me and Aero Precision M5. The M5 was the first rifle I have ever built part by part. The rifle is now done and I have really like it. Please make more videos like this, not many of us have time and money to figure this stuff out on our own. Be safe out there.

  • @boxcarbandit2098
    @boxcarbandit2098 Před 11 měsíci +6

    They make some of the best lowers in the game. Glad to see aero looks after their customers!

  • @ShipperS7
    @ShipperS7 Před rokem +276

    The rifle ran for 2,300 rounds with zero care or maintenance? That's impressive. Good job Aero Precision, I'll be looking at you for my next build.

    • @xzaviercleric3771
      @xzaviercleric3771 Před rokem +13

      👍👍👍 Exactly. I have a .308 Aero build that I pieced out and built myself with an 18" Ballistic Advantage barrel. It runs like a stripe assed ape. Just shot MOA with it Thanksgiving day using 7.62x51 ammo.

    • @Kaiserland111
      @Kaiserland111 Před rokem +25

      Don't forget, also zero lubrication! That is crazy impressive. Occasionally clean your gun, fire at a more reasonable rate, lubricate it well, and it will probably take care of you for WAY longer than it did in the test.

    • @ivehaditidontcareanymore.6326
      @ivehaditidontcareanymore.6326 Před rokem +1

      @@xzaviercleric3771 What's the weight of your buffer in yours? I have built one as well it is an 18in heavy profile barrel also from Ballistics Advantage all other components from Aero. She struggles to cycle. Sometimes it won't pick up a round or it won't kick out a casing and try and feed another one. Only time I got it to actually cycle was when I had the buffer spring compressed for like 3 weeks

    • @Gnolomweb
      @Gnolomweb Před rokem +1

      @@ivehaditidontcareanymore.6326 What ammo are you using?
      My 18" SPR barrel from BA, Aero matched blem upper/lower, A5 Vltor Spring Rifle length buffer. Running Brownell's light weight BCG/bolt.
      I only shoot full powered 5.56 pressured hand loads. Superlative adj gasblock on bleedoff made the gun shoot flater, but had no effect on cycling a round (which the slight exception of ejection pattern)

    • @johnnyh4666
      @johnnyh4666 Před rokem +4

      I ended up with an Aero Precision AR-10, by “accident.” I didn’t set out to purchase one. I also don’t own an AR-15 variant of their product. A buddy of mine decided to part with his AR-10 build and I bought it off of him to “help out.” He intended to utilize the recouped funds to build a custom bolt gun. I had no concerns with the quality of his build considering he’s former CAG. The rifle is chambered in 6.5 CR and is a shooter. I also now have a barrel and handguard setup in .308 and it remains a shooter. I would not hesitate in recommending Aero Precision.

  • @gagemason3865
    @gagemason3865 Před rokem +132

    I absolutely want to see more videos exactly this one. The information and data created is not only extremely valuable to TREX and it’s followers, but all manufactures in general. From this video alone I would wager that at the very least Aero will make improvements, possibly even others. Lucas, if you’re reading this, thanks man. For this video and all the others and everything else you’re doing. You’ll continue to have my business whenever possible and always have my support.

    • @sunvalleyorganics
      @sunvalleyorganics Před rokem +1

      100% we need more of this as a whole

    • @fermentillc
      @fermentillc Před rokem

      100%. I've never seen anyone do this to a Wyndham Weaponry, not old bushmaster, and their rifles are sweet.

  • @johnmerz1968
    @johnmerz1968 Před rokem +9

    I love your guys view through the scope while your shooting. I have only seen that done in a couple other places. Really helps with get the perspective of what the reticle looks like while firing. This was a kickass video from you guys. I enjoyed the hell out of it. It also was very helpful, because I am currently gathering parts to build my dream AR-10 .308 and your content is going to be very useful in completing that build. Great job!!!

  • @boohanlon3305
    @boohanlon3305 Před rokem +1

    Tha k you Lucas for taking the time and the resources to make this video. This will help me with my currently built and future AR308 builds in the future!!

  • @Suprdsm
    @Suprdsm Před rokem +71

    Now THAT is how you do a product review! The amount of work and quality of said work on this is remarkable. The data collection, editing, production.. Thank you T.REX ARMS!
    I would really enjoy seeing more videos like this with offerings from BCM, S&W, even PSA etc.

  • @revanreborn69
    @revanreborn69 Před rokem +112

    I cannot stress this enough. This is the kind of content that is needed. I've put my money on t-rex before just on the principles you've shown. This cements my confidence. Nothing is perfect, gear, people, etc. But honesty and transparency is priceless, and nowadays it's in low supply. Thank you! ...Edit, would you guys be willing on doing the same test with an Aero Ar-15?

    • @jaycebaldwin6482
      @jaycebaldwin6482 Před rokem +1

      Exactly what I’d love to see. Got one of there m4E1s and it’s got about 2k on it right now. 🧐 not near enough… hopefully gonna change real soon though🤙

    • @robertdrawdy3749
      @robertdrawdy3749 Před rokem

      @@jaycebaldwin6482 same her got 2200 rounds on my 16in m4e1 doesn't skip a beat and I'm not cleaning it after every shooting either... and also I think they probably used the cheaper phosphate BCG out of the nitride and nickel boron that they make but idk

    • @F15Bluto
      @F15Bluto Před rokem

      I had the same question. Completely different set of stressors and function, IMO. (But, please. Lube the gun and maintain it. That’s what consumers do.)

    • @jaycebaldwin6482
      @jaycebaldwin6482 Před rokem +1

      @@robertdrawdy3749 no telling, time will tell. So far so good on my rifle. But ya never know

  • @matthewconrad4728
    @matthewconrad4728 Před 9 měsíci +8

    Man watching this whole thing was a stretch but very informative. I’ve been in the process of building an Aero ar10 so watching this gave me some good tips and ideas of what to look into for it while building it instead of having to do this whole process myself.
    I would love to see a 300 blackout PSA pistol build put to the test like this

  • @rangerdanger126
    @rangerdanger126 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Hello T. Rex. Here's my experience so far......
    I picked up a completed 308 M5 build from a store/builder in Nebraska. First gun was a single shot! Changed a few parts, did not fix the issue. The issue being not a reliable functioning rifle. Might get through maybe 4 rounds at the most if lucky. And always failed to lock open on the last round. Sent it back to the builder. He said the gas block was not properly aligned. Keep in mind he sent it to me out of alignment if that was the case! The gas block and rod was one of the items changed! He ended up building me a new rifle, because he felt the first was kinda rough when all was said and done. He told me he shot 10 rounds through it, and it worked flawless.
    The new rifle arrived at my FFL where I picked it up a few days ago. And based on what he said about it working fine, I decided to go ahead and change a few things on the rifle. I put on a different pistol grip, added an Ambi safety, put in a LaRue MBT trigger, and this time when ahead and installed a muzzle break (This was not added to the first gun.) I did remove the hand rail and added a bi-pod M-Lock rail adapter and a M-Lock sling connector. I put the scope and the 45 degree mount with red dot back on the upper receiver. But I did not make any changes to the gas block or the gas rod, or the bolt. Took the new rifle to the range and it is a single shot just like the first rifle!!! When I say single shot, I mean the rifle will fire and eject the case (Sometimes will jam with a double feed, but these are rare), but the bolt will not move far enough to the rear to load a new round from the mag! I have to charge the rifle to load the next round And, just like the first rifle it will not lock the bolt back on the last round!
    This rifle has not had enough rounds through it yet to be considered broken in I know. But I'm a little hesitant due to all the rounds I fired through the first rifle without fixing the issues, and this rifle already showing the same issues!!
    I have sent a email to Aero, but have not heard any reply. I think the rifle is under gassed and that the gas port on the 416 BA barrel could be too small, but the builder stated it is the correct size. I really like this rifle and I really want it to work as it should! It is accurate enough. I did zero the first rifle out to 300 yards.
    Kinda wishing I had just went with a PSA 20" 308!
    Update: Contacted Ballistic Advantage and explained what it was doing. They agreed with me that it sounded under gassed. They told me what size the gas port should be and what drill bit size I needed. I disassembled the rifle and tried to insert the drill bit in the gas port, it would not fit. I put a cleaning rod in the barrel, put some oil on the bit and around the hole and drilled it out. I cleaned the barrel and made sure there was not shavings in it. I put all the upgrades back on the rifle and took it to a local range. It worked as it should. I fired a full 20 round mag without any issues! I know It needs more rounds down the pipe, and that will happen when I re-zero the rifle at 300 yards.
    One Shot (Literally)... One Kill!

  • @Spartanstrengthperformance
    @Spartanstrengthperformance Před rokem +111

    This was the best most comprehensive consumer test available. You literally spent 65% of my yearly income to provide us with quality information. I would love to see more videos like this one. Would love to see more testing on something from LWRC or LMT

    • @___.___._____
      @___.___._____ Před rokem +2

      This, tons of respect here. This is what I want to see for firearms as well although the 2 hour vid should have an accompanying executive summary video. Love the anonymous buy, suppress or die attitude, and the endurance test. More of these please. An AR 10 is on my list, I learned a ton here. Can we get some ammo suppliers to help mitigate the cost here. Promote them and I’ll ensure to choose them if they are competitively priced.

    • @ped200014
      @ped200014 Před rokem +14

      He spent $3500 on a rifle, didn't bother to lube it, couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, and gave up 2/3 through the test. In what world was this not an embarrassment?

    • @___.___._____
      @___.___._____ Před rokem +1

      @@ped200014 by all means holier than thou internet expert. Please start your own channel and do your own impartial review so we can critique you. Until then, shut your anonymous paid shill ass up.

    • @ped200014
      @ped200014 Před rokem +1

      @@___.___._____ Yes I'm the shill. Deep thoughts. Much smart.

    • @___.___._____
      @___.___._____ Před rokem +2

      @@ped200014 best you’ve got is “ I know you are but what am I?”

  • @shooterman2535
    @shooterman2535 Před rokem +62

    Purely from a production standpoint, the amount of batteries, storage, and clips that the video team would have had to go through is nuts, could not have been an easy job. Awesome job

  • @kyleparrish2026
    @kyleparrish2026 Před 10 měsíci +9

    Got a brand new M5 with the Lakewood facility's roll mark, and I'm looking forward to putting it through its paces, seeing how my newer post-T.Rex testing specimen handles. Keep up the good work, Aero Precision and T.Rex Arms!

  • @MUMZZ400
    @MUMZZ400 Před 6 měsíci

    Yes, I appreciate this content, Great video!! I always learning and I’ve found your content to be very informative and honest. I’ve recently made my first Aero purchase (builders kit) and I’m satisfied so far. I met a couple of the Aero reps at a local shop and definitely some rad dudes! I knew what my next build was going to be then. It was great to hear you shout out your shop at the end of the video, heading there now to check out the shop. Looking forward to the next one! 🗽✌🏻

  • @TheGeekiestGuy
    @TheGeekiestGuy Před rokem +143

    I think the editors and the crew that supplements these videos need a hand of applause, too. You are the unsung heroes here. Thank you for making everything come together in a cohesive manner. You're the GOATS here.

    • @danielgoggans4012
      @danielgoggans4012 Před rokem

      You aren't named Lucas by any chance are you?

    • @NoLimitHonky
      @NoLimitHonky Před rokem

      @@Org80 if that's all you got of this video, you're probably a Daniel Defense guy lol

    • @ger808
      @ger808 Před rokem

      @@Org80 everything on this channel is over dramatic ...lucas thinks his some sort of ace shooter , his actually very poor wit aim my kid would do much better vs lucas ...and whats wit his sf wanna be bs crash course ...cmon ..his a kid with to much money...he needs to go bach home to mummy to eat a few dinners also as it looks like his starved!!!!

    • @joebenson528
      @joebenson528 Před rokem

      @@NoLimitHonky
      There a many reasons why I regretted buying Daniel Defense. Sending rifles to banderites was the final straw.

    • @kristinastackhouse270
      @kristinastackhouse270 Před rokem

      AGREED! The camera guys and editors have done a great job

  • @mikebmade-it4218
    @mikebmade-it4218 Před rokem +118

    Just based on the interaction you had and knowing Aero generally leans towards building your own gun based on your specific needs, I think I’m even more inclined to purchase Aero products in the future

    • @zack9912000
      @zack9912000 Před rokem

      They do make good budget ARs, certainly better then anderson and psa

    • @ngaoutdoors4157
      @ngaoutdoors4157 Před rokem

      @@zack9912000 They also manufacture for multiple ar builders also! Aero been in business longer then most ar manufacturers

  • @rmelder761
    @rmelder761 Před rokem +1

    Lucas I’m very impressed. Great job. I have the same riffle love how you changed the build during the testing, gave me a lot to ponder and some great ideas for mine to be modified.

  • @creightonholub
    @creightonholub Před 11 měsíci +3

    Great video. As an old school newspaper journalist, I appreciate how y'all approach and handle the topic. Thank you, and I'm looking forward to more videos of this type.
    Additionally, when I swing back around to rifle purchasing again, I will lean toward the Aero Precision brand. Seeing how well it worked, without "any" maintenance it held up pretty well IMHO.

  • @daltonamorphx231
    @daltonamorphx231 Před rokem +84

    I think it’d be worthwhile to do the same testing on some of PSA, S&W M&P sport, or more of the “budget” kind of rifles

    • @Savagebutton
      @Savagebutton Před rokem +5

      Yes please.

    • @jarodwalker465
      @jarodwalker465 Před rokem +10

      For a fact. You wanna talk about mass produced and not a ton of thorough testing, doing a bcm vs psa would be a great comparison in wear, realiability, and accuracy

    • @michaelyoho4848
      @michaelyoho4848 Před rokem +2

      @@jarodwalker465 I fully agree

    • @Tactical.Muffin.Top.
      @Tactical.Muffin.Top. Před rokem +1

      Yes please!

    • @sj6404
      @sj6404 Před rokem +3

      No joke especially considering you can pick up a PSA "blemished" for $750 with free shipping. Think of the wonderful optics you can buy with the $750 in savings. 🤣

  • @SteveJorgensen
    @SteveJorgensen Před rokem +89

    I think doing a test like this with a PSA AR would be really interesting. Would probably be extremely beneficial to a lot of people

    • @DRAZ_A_PATRIOT_GUNS
      @DRAZ_A_PATRIOT_GUNS Před rokem

      yes!!!

    • @SteveJorgensen
      @SteveJorgensen Před rokem +2

      @@hunters6105 maybe. Either way it would probably help a lot of people.

    • @KJV0812
      @KJV0812 Před rokem

      @hunter s You have a great point, I just use their lowers with quality parts and never had an issue! I have purchase PSA "microbest BCG, and I can say that thing is on par with solgw, bcm bcgs and lets not forget my old active army m4 carbine.

    • @Bearjew2995
      @Bearjew2995 Před rokem +2

      @hunter s And here is the I spend my life savings on one rifle so I'm better then everyone guy. Do you ever get sick of smelling your own farts? PSA and Aero are affordable companys with a good product for ppl that don't make as much money.

    • @PureCountryof91
      @PureCountryof91 Před rokem

      @hunter s just saying, the PA-10's in multiple hands, are pulling moa shots consistently

  • @AndriiMykhailovVPR
    @AndriiMykhailovVPR Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video, very informative, I just got into Ar-10, a year ago, while being at war (and still there), and got myself a Springfield Saint Victor "16. so far so good.

  • @tomdavistn4
    @tomdavistn4 Před rokem

    Great video. This one of the first of this length that I've watched in its entirety. I purchased one of these rifles and ran about 1000 rounds at a Prairie Fire, NV course and another 200ish rounds at Tactical Response in Camden, TN. Mine didn't like to run dry & I lubed it on day one. After that, no problems. I'm going to check the promblem areas you identified, so thanks for that. I'm looking forward to more of your videos. Thanks.

  • @charlieghague
    @charlieghague Před rokem +93

    These super long form and hard to make videos are precisely what the community needs right now. This is basically shows how one rifle would've performed throughout its lifetime and that type of info is invaluable. It's also exactly what creators should focus on. We don't need entertainment. We need quality content that provides usable information. This has that in spades. Good stuff T. Rex Arms. Hope you continue doing testing like this. I'd suggest testing a BCM upper with Aero lower combo next since that's what you typically recommend to us.

    • @AstoundLikesWoW
      @AstoundLikesWoW Před rokem

      I don't think BCM makes a. 308 upper.

    • @charlieghague
      @charlieghague Před rokem

      @@AstoundLikesWoW Oh shit. You're totally right. Didn't even think about that.

  • @jedprimero
    @jedprimero Před rokem +59

    This is gold! Thank you, Lucas and Trex Arms. The community needs more of this type of content.

    • @andreivaldez2929
      @andreivaldez2929 Před rokem

      Yeah, would love to see this done with more rifles to see how they stack compared to each other in a more objective test.

  • @johnmerz1968
    @johnmerz1968 Před rokem

    I, for one, am very happy that you take the time and expense to provide fact based information for us to use in our firearm journeys. I have purchased many of your products and I feel confident in doing so, because you have tested the item numerous times and you have documented it in a no bulls*it review, good or bad, for us to make the best choice on the gear we are going to purchase in our firearm journey and I watch all of your videos, some many times over, and I do appreciate the time and money you spend to provide the American People with the most advanced gear and firearm review your going to find on CZcams today. I know you have received some flack from the military community, well I am a vet and a retired SWAT Officer out of Colorado, so my background is extensive, but I still see the value of the information you provide and all of the hard work you put in to creating your content. So don’t stop, because you are reaching more people than you know with some pretty impressive backgrounds, which I hope I have conveyed in this response. Keep the content and challenges coming.

  • @pschrum4me
    @pschrum4me Před rokem +2

    This is absolutely the type of content I want. Honest reviews with data to back up the findings. Granted this is only one data point of the actual rifle. It would really help to find out what all of the quality control specs are from Areo and at what points they take take them. Find out if the parts are within spec and ask them to measure as well. Combine the finding and use this as an R&D event.

  • @toiletvirusandcoronapaper271

    I think a 5000 endurance of a PSA AR-10 would be interesting.
    A complete 223 aero rundown would be nice as well

  • @codywiggins4224
    @codywiggins4224 Před rokem +105

    Everyone makes holsters, mag carriers, and belts. Even when TRex is out of the color or style that I want, I wait to buy your products because of your values. Not only do you constantly produce incredibly valuable content, but you also support life and liberty.
    Aero is also a class-act, and I love my M5.
    Keep rockin' guys.

  • @chopper3526
    @chopper3526 Před rokem

    I respect and appreciate your thoroughness and honesty Lucas. I ordered a few extra Aero parts to have in my bugout bag just in case 😉🤘🏼

  • @geraldo4004
    @geraldo4004 Před rokem

    Such nice tests on this channel. Nothing ever perfect. Idk why everyone give this dude so much crap. Comprehensive. Thoughtful. Nice reviews. Fair. No bs. No lies. Not pretending he's better than he is. Good dude. Good channel.

  • @nickcarter6292
    @nickcarter6292 Před rokem +72

    Awesome video. Would love to see more content similar to this video on dd5 v3 or v4 and the sig 716i. As someone who works in the firearm industry,I am asked questions about the ar10 platform daily. Seeing in depth non biased content on these platforms is incredibly beneficial. Thank you trex arms for putting in the leg work. Looking forward to more of this content.

    • @heterodox3487
      @heterodox3487 Před rokem +2

      Ruger SFAR would be another I'd like to see

    • @MajorBurns
      @MajorBurns Před rokem

      @Kilgor how many militaries have adopted this?

    • @rustys.1070
      @rustys.1070 Před rokem

      @@MajorBurns India has a minimum of 6 service rifles. if anything, this proves that the sig is the cheapest one around

    • @ItsIntelligent
      @ItsIntelligent Před rokem +1

      Yes Daniel defense AR10

    • @beakmaster69
      @beakmaster69 Před rokem +1

      The DD5 would be incredibly interesting to see this test on. DD makes incredibly accurate barrels and durable bolts for their .223 guns in my limited experience. I would love to know if I can expect their same quality from a .308 or 6.5 platform before dropping $2500 on one.

  • @ruthlessreviews1283
    @ruthlessreviews1283 Před rokem +54

    This was rad. As a little pet project, I’ve been seeing how far I can push a Aero BCG for 5.56. Currently I’m sitting at about 13K rounds without any parts breakage. Pretty impressed by that

    • @squidy4082
      @squidy4082 Před rokem +3

      13k with no repairs? That’s awesome, an ak bolt by then would be fried lol

    • @warrenharrison9490
      @warrenharrison9490 Před rokem +10

      The only thing that would break for me after 13k is my wallet 😂

    • @ruthlessreviews1283
      @ruthlessreviews1283 Před rokem +5

      @@warrenharrison9490 haha this is all since like 2019, and most of that was pre-Covid. I actually just rebuilt that gun, new barrel, gas block and tube, and a new BCG.
      I’m gonna throw that Aero BCG in a DMR build I got going on and see how much longer it lasts

    • @TheAcenightcreeper
      @TheAcenightcreeper Před rokem

      Why?

    • @ruthlessreviews1283
      @ruthlessreviews1283 Před rokem +4

      @@TheAcenightcreeper I bought the BCG when funds were tighter than they are now. Now I’m just curious to see just how long it will last

  • @nick10596nb
    @nick10596nb Před rokem +1

    I’m not much of a hardcore shooter, I have a few PSA rifles that I hardly get out to shoot.
    But from the start of my interest in building them. Aero was at the top, all my internals are Aero.
    Seeing the company engage with Lucas and with all of the people in comment section, speaks volumes on the quality of this company! Cheers to Aero! And Lucas keep it up the tests and development videos!

  • @davidperry3549
    @davidperry3549 Před rokem +1

    Absolutely love this! I'd 100% watch a series on this topic.

    • @davidperry3549
      @davidperry3549 Před rokem

      Let's just say, ill probably wait for the conclusion of this entire series before purchasing an AR10.

  • @Darkmattersfrank
    @Darkmattersfrank Před rokem +30

    Palmetto State’s AR-10. I think their version of this rifle is in that every man’s obtainable genre. I am a fan of Aero and I’ve enjoyed every minute of time I put into watching this video. Thank you for making a high quality production video that was easy to consume for the almost 2 hours I watched it.

    • @Fz-bo7sm
      @Fz-bo7sm Před rokem

      The pa10 is great, i have almost 3k rounds with most of that being steel case and aside from the rail loosening up it’s been great, zero bcg issues most likely because it’s a tool craft bolt

  • @natedowty8772
    @natedowty8772 Před rokem +94

    Excellent content. I would love to see how the Sig 716i and the DD5 V3 stack up against this as they are also 16" .308 guns. Would be great to see how the Sig (a few hundred dollars more than the Aero) would do.

    • @Justinderrell
      @Justinderrell Před rokem +7

      POF piston no problem, would love to see same test with sig 716. There was a sheriffs office in Cali that tested pof to tens of thousands of rounds.

    • @collingibson335
      @collingibson335 Před rokem +6

      I can tell you my sig 716i shoots about 5 moa with M80 and 1.5 moa with federal 175gr GMM

    • @gregsall5872
      @gregsall5872 Před rokem +2

      My sig 716 patrol gen 1 has about 8500 rounds all original parts. Had a issue when I first bought it, the forward assist pin kept catching the bolt and not allowing it to cycle. sent back to sig n they fixed it. Havent had a FTF(feed or fire) or a FTE since, even in -25°. Overall I've been extremely happy with it and its one of my favorite rifles. Usually only get to about 150 to 200 rounds before cleaning as I dont go out to just dump mags with that gun.

    • @BillyWeisbergII
      @BillyWeisbergII Před rokem +5

      Yeaa I'd be very interested in the sig 716

    • @dbm2101
      @dbm2101 Před rokem

      I’m also interested in seeing Lucas’s findings.

  • @jamesmoroney1378
    @jamesmoroney1378 Před 3 měsíci

    My grandson and are building an AR 10 IN 308. GREAT INFO IN THIS REVIEW BY YOU ALL. THANKS!

  • @mattrobinson1803
    @mattrobinson1803 Před 4 měsíci

    Absolutely loved this video! Super informative. This company won me over with their plate carrier which is freakin comfortable and badass hats. These videos have taught me a lot so far with certain things. Please keep making these types of videos Lucas. You’re the man!

  • @joshr9880
    @joshr9880 Před rokem +23

    This is a company that is truly for the people, straight to the point , great knowledge, awesome products and top tier costumer service. It’s exactly why I will continue to buy their products and support their business!

  • @WatchMeTinker
    @WatchMeTinker Před rokem +66

    Love this content! Sadly, for the reasons you pointed out, there is not more videos like this. Please keep producing these and I'll do my part to support the work. I think it is pretty clear that the next contestant should be a Palmetto State Armory. They're Aero's biggest competitor in the entry level market.

    • @bwillems1000
      @bwillems1000 Před rokem +4

      That or the Smith & Wesson M&P-10

    • @johnoser2706
      @johnoser2706 Před rokem +4

      @@bwillems1000 I personally think Aero is a bit higher tier than PSA and S&W. I would be comfortable placing some of Aero's stuff in mid tier. I would likely choose a different barrel and BCG though.

    • @carsonhunt4642
      @carsonhunt4642 Před rokem

      I know they have the ar10 but personally I’ve been eyeing that m1a 308 they sell… thing looks beautiful.
      While I like psa, I have a feeling they’d give no response about defective stuff. Would Just say to replace it via warranty, that’s it.

    • @michaelwilson6742
      @michaelwilson6742 Před rokem

      @@carsonhunt4642 garand thumb did a video on the psa ak and they responded pretty well

    • @coltondunn2
      @coltondunn2 Před rokem +2

      AERO PRECISION IS NOT AN ENTRY LEVEL GUN! As soon as I tuned the gas system on both of my m4's and my m5, I have had zero malfunctions over thousands of rounds sent down range! Point of reference... It is never a good idea too run any gun 2300 rounds before cleaning and re-lubing it! The lack of lube actually causes unessisary friction.

  • @nicholaszornes2837
    @nicholaszornes2837 Před rokem +4

    This was a very informative video. I just want to say I greatly appreciate your thoroughness with the testing and your general insights on firearms and the industry. I would love to see more videos like this. You recommend a BCM upper, and I am considering one for my first build, but I think a video with this format on it would be helpful. Regardless of what arms you choose to use, I really appreciate this video format.

  • @donjeffe1
    @donjeffe1 Před rokem

    LMT308 5k test. Thank you for your time and efforts.

  • @MantisManTRD
    @MantisManTRD Před rokem +35

    This was very helpful for me to understand some aspects of the AR10 platform I had not considered in the past. I currently own a Springfield Saint .308 and have been looking for ways to improve its performance and realiablity. Seeing the results with the Aero Precision rifle has helped me understand the benefits and weaknesses of the AR10 platform and the parts used for testing. The depths of the video were well thought out and very useful. I hope to see more content like this in the future and continue to respect the contributions T.Rex Arms makes for the firearms community.

  • @slohawk8275
    @slohawk8275 Před rokem +30

    I'm glad the AR10 platform is getting some love. I built one a couple of years ago, it was fairly difficult and required a good bit of research in order to get parts that would fit and function together. As well as utilizing a non reciprocating, side charging upper receiver that just added another level of complexity. But I love it!

    • @iDad7276
      @iDad7276 Před rokem

      It’s not an AR10. It’s an LR308. Huge difference!! Huge!!

  • @EarthAltar
    @EarthAltar Před rokem +6

    Excellent video you guys. Finally got time to watch the whole thing. One thing I found interesting was your approach to accuracy. Barrel length, twist rate, and projectile weight have a sweet spot where they all meet for optimal ballistics. You just need to find where that is. Also the grade of ammo plays a big part. Boat tail hollow points are almost always going to fare better than cheaper practice ball ammo. What works in one rifle may be horrible in another. There's no one magic bullet for every gun. You have to find what a particular set up likes, is repeatable, and stick with it. Then you'll have a reliable zero to work from if and when you change bullet weight, manufacturer, or other parameters.

  • @emmittbishop4783
    @emmittbishop4783 Před rokem

    Doesn't say good or bad for Aero, just sets baseline expectations for the platform. Useful information. Thanks for saving us the time, money, effort,etc.

  • @chillinraptor7176
    @chillinraptor7176 Před rokem +17

    It's awesome that Trex is in a position and is willing to do a test like this, both expensive and time consuming. I find it's useful in that it's not a 'ultimate-extreme-burndown-mud-freeze-lava-test' and that it's a consumer condition test, I'd love to see some more tests like this.

  • @dustinmccarthy5172
    @dustinmccarthy5172 Před rokem +31

    This is awesome. Shooting 150 rounds and then going on CZcams and saying how great the rifle is does a terrible disservice the viewers. I notice how y’all usually say “this isn’t a review” in other videos. Now I know what you meant. Good stuff boys.

    • @TREXARMS
      @TREXARMS  Před rokem +27

      The next one is going to be even crazier haha

    • @subjecttochrist
      @subjecttochrist Před rokem +3

      @@TREXARMS DDM4V7

    • @sjoracer2934
      @sjoracer2934 Před rokem

      @@TREXARMS SPOILERS haha, love the content

    • @PhotogenicPotato
      @PhotogenicPotato Před rokem +1

      @@TREXARMS i wouldn't mind seeing a raffle for the test pieces after the projects are done to help recoup some of the costs. can't wait till your next product announcement.

  • @moreboost
    @moreboost Před 2 měsíci

    Awesome job guys!! loved the video and currently looking to get a AR10 soon! This has opened my eyes to Aero!

  • @RGsedona
    @RGsedona Před rokem +1

    Awesome video. Invaluable feedback for the manufacturer. Hopefully will result in a superior product.

  • @markp6062
    @markp6062 Před rokem +49

    Great and informative video! My thoughts are... after writing them, I find that they center around the workload you put it through. Maybe not an unfair test, but it was pretty intense and, I would say, fairly extreme, minus mud baths...
    1) Was a great pick for testing. It's a popular brand and model.
    2) the duty cycle you put it through was tough. Though you cooled it off, it had to be running 'warm' most of the time.
    3) 5000 rounds is a LOT of usage. that's 166 - 30 round mags. if a standard load out is 10 mags, that 16 battle days. That's a LOT of usage! If I were in a combat position where my life depended on this piece of kit, I think I would clean my weapon more often than never. If for no other reason, than to monitor it for potential failures. The amount of crud on your fingers during the bolt disassembly was very telling.
    4) Zero maintenance, though probably realistic for many users is unrealistic from a longevity perspective. When you buy a new car, you don't plan on just driving cross country over and over while never having maintenance done to it. People who never do maintenance on their weapons should have no expectation that they will run forever.
    5) I did think the video was a bit long, but it was also very informative.
    6) I found the close up shots of the malfunctions to be poor and not very helpful. In particular, the shots of the bolt carrier breakdown didn't really detail what you were discussing. the broken pin was just a little glob of metal, even on my 50 inch screen at 1080.
    Thank you so much for taking the time to follow up with AP and telling us about it. That's important info and I'm glad you shared it. I, too, am a fan of AP and have been considering an AR-10 from them. I feel much better informed after watching the video!

    • @Kaiser333333
      @Kaiser333333 Před rokem +1

      Yea I agree with you regarding the maintenance schedule. I would say any consumer (civilian) level firearm owned by a reasonable person would clean and inspect the gun multiple times throughout a 5k round test. You can buy a rifle from Aero for $1,400, or buy one from LMT /sig for $3,500 or knights armaments for $5k+.
      Personally I would expect the military level weapons like those from LMT/KAC/SIG to fair far better in a 5k round test, but even the military would probably allow for a cleaning in that 5k round period.
      Finally, I’ve heard a lot of people build Aero AR10s and swap in JP bolt carriers because they are simply better.

  • @JAM3SAG0N_GAMING
    @JAM3SAG0N_GAMING Před rokem +38

    I am speaking as a buyer that is not able to spend a few thousand on parts and accessories. So with that in mind I appreciate the transparency and layout of the video. You had multiple different brands of ammo used, you guys also did from what I can see a good torture test for the consumer. I would love to see more of these videos. Also side note we all say hi from wades guns in bellevue! ( you know who I'm talking about) I appreciate you all and have a great day!!!

  • @kaitrucx
    @kaitrucx Před 3 měsíci +1

    Bought one of these in South Africa and started shootings it last year September. I had a ton of malfunctions. Handloaded some Hornady ELDM168gr in Lapua brass, using Somchem S335 or Vihtavuori N550 or N150. Hand the same issue. Running it with a ASE Utra suppressor as I set it up as a DMR. Battled a ton. 100 round 5-7 stoppages then on day 19 rounds 5 malfunctions. Mostly stove pipes and sometimes a double feed with a stove pipe at the same time. Cases end up turning around inside the ejection port with the BCG jamming it. Ended up with a Odin works adjustable gas block. Gas block was on its 1st click open and the rifle still cycled locking the BCG open after an empty mag. Ejection at 4 o clock. Opened it another 2 clicks and it seems good ejection at 3 o clock. So gas block is open 3 clicks out of 20 possible adjustments. Seems like this is a very over gassed rifle. Has any one had similar issues

  • @stevem9141
    @stevem9141 Před rokem +6

    If you’re ever in the field without loctite, you can use a drop of new skin liquid bandage as a substitute for any bolts or screws backing out. You can also use a drop of super glue.

    • @user-yg7vp2vi4x
      @user-yg7vp2vi4x Před 9 měsíci +2

      I found some flat black and dang near flat OD nail polish years ago. Works to patch rain gear, cover wounds and knock down shine on metal.

  • @9HoleReviews
    @9HoleReviews Před rokem +3

    "Rifles aren't as accurate as people think" --> this has been one of our biggest takeaways from shooting so many different platforms the last few years...and equally, the belief which floats around that only 1" guns or better are capable...we haven't found that to be true at all either.
    Enjoyed the vid trex team.

  • @petemitchell8161
    @petemitchell8161 Před rokem +6

    Aero is an outstanding, and very under rated company. Their in my home state, and always takes care of my profession. They are always happy to get feedback, and takes criticism constructively. They were one of the first companies to make a one piece trigger guard with a rounded guard that’s easier on the middle knuckle when porting the weapon. That came from community feedback.

  • @craigandersen8937
    @craigandersen8937 Před rokem

    I appreciate your honesty and openness.

  • @layladodge3850
    @layladodge3850 Před 9 měsíci +1

    @T.REX ARMS
    I was really impressed with the time and transparency in this video. Thank you! I would be very interested to see the Gen3 palmetto State armory AR10 ..I think many of us out there would like to see that weapon pressed to 5000 after all the updates they've taken into consideration there at PA... THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IN THE 2A COMMUNITY! Much appreciated

  • @ke6533
    @ke6533 Před rokem +46

    As someone who is familiar with the AR platform and looking to get into a .308, this is great timing.

    • @jacobleonard7306
      @jacobleonard7306 Před rokem +2

      I say that I still would recommend it. I've put alittle over a thousand through mine throughout the past year or so I personally haven't had an issue. I assembled it myself too.

    • @Osprey1994
      @Osprey1994 Před rokem +3

      Honestly I would say don't bother. I pieced together a build and ended up having to take it to the gunsmith because even though everything looked good on paper it was still having some issues. There are good semi auto 308 rifles they just cost a decent chunk of change. You might get lucky or you may end up taking it to a gunsmith like I did.

    • @paulwest4424
      @paulwest4424 Před rokem

      Mine is a 20” stainless HBAR. I haven’t put it through a test even remotely this punishing but I do have about 2,800 rounds though it. Only issues I’ve had were mag and ammo related. I did put aftermarket parts though. Lantac Ni bcg. Radian CH, rise armament trigger, heavier buffer spring and adjustable gas block. Had a night force on it but now I have the new eotech 5-25x vudu. Only thing I’d say is if you still want one to just build your own. Buy the stripped upper and lower and part everything else out so you can build it exactly how you want without wasting money on parts your just going to take off.

    • @reefread1234
      @reefread1234 Před rokem +2

      u can also get a 6.5 upper and swap them out in a bout a minute

    • @Milstache_Productions
      @Milstache_Productions Před rokem

      Got a Daniel Defense DD5 I’m looking to get rid of

  • @mattfleming86
    @mattfleming86 Před rokem +130

    One of the problems with 308/7.62 guns is the WIDE variety of ammo. Some of the 7.62 loads are quite weakly gassed and some 308 loads are screamers. I"d hate to be the guy deciding how to gas one of these rifles.

    • @AJuniorOutdoorsman
      @AJuniorOutdoorsman Před rokem +25

      And the lack of standardized parts between platforms

    • @lighlotus117
      @lighlotus117 Před rokem +3

      I had to bore out my gas port on my criterion barrel after messing with springs and buffers. Put an adjustable gas block on it and turned it to 2 clicks more open from failure to eject/bolt lock back. It was a pain before just boring that port.

    • @youvandal411vm
      @youvandal411vm Před rokem +1

      Big farts!

    • @NoNo_IStay
      @NoNo_IStay Před rokem +4

      @@lighlotus117 sketchy, but I've done it.
      I got an M&P10 as my first 308. As usual with the first gen of these.....They're undergassed at the port. Measured .064. A .075 bit, a steady hand, and a bore snake will take care of that.

    • @raifsevrence
      @raifsevrence Před rokem +3

      @@NoNo_IStay good lord. doing that without a drill press is sketch af. 😅

  • @Armed-Mindset
    @Armed-Mindset Před 7 měsíci

    The production quality of this channel is top tier

  • @Chonkasaurus
    @Chonkasaurus Před 6 měsíci +5

    I built an AR10 in 308 with an Aero upper and lower. The only non aero parts are a cryptic bcg, radian charging handle, and geiselle trigger. It's been one of my favorite rifles. I've recently added a 3-18 scope to use it for deer hunting. Great video and I'm pretty impressed how far the rifle made it unlubed.

    • @920WASHBURN
      @920WASHBURN Před 5 měsíci

      What's the difference between 10 and 15?

    • @uurkisme
      @uurkisme Před 5 měsíci

      That's basically exactly what I'm doing, but Wilson combat bcg.

    • @bradenstackhouse1335
      @bradenstackhouse1335 Před 4 měsíci

      @@920WASHBURN10 is usually chambered in a bigger round like 308 or 6.5 creed as apposed to an ar15 which is usually chambered in 556/223

    • @920WASHBURN
      @920WASHBURN Před 4 měsíci

      @@bradenstackhouse1335 I see I see. 308 is bigger than 556? Huh.

    • @lordjack567
      @lordjack567 Před 3 dny

      @@920WASHBURN .308 Winchester is the civilian designation of the military round 7.62 NATO. 5.56 NATO is the military designation of the .223 Remington. So an AR-15 shoots a .22 caliber bullet, and an AR-10 shoots a .30 caliber bullet. Sometimes AR-10 are in 6.5 Creedmoor, which is a .264 caliber bullet. So .30 > .264 > .22

  • @michaelpatenaude4720
    @michaelpatenaude4720 Před rokem +17

    I have to say, I know it's probably super hard and expensive, but I LOVE these movie length videos

  • @CobraShuttle
    @CobraShuttle Před rokem +44

    My biggest take away from this is Lucas has never broken a firing pin on an AR before. I thought it was pretty common thing when you get up there in rounds, and a part you want to have an extra on hand. For hardly lubing and cleaning the rifle, and then going suppressed I think it did really well.

    • @HatsuneM1ku01
      @HatsuneM1ku01 Před rokem

      I’ve had 10k rounds on my bcm bcg with no failures. Try getting a 158 steel bolt face and throw the poors bcg in the trash lol

    • @HatsuneM1ku01
      @HatsuneM1ku01 Před rokem

      @Souwth-bawston-is-fuh-luvahs or just buy a quality bcg and cry once lol. Always just as guuders that always have issues with your guns and need extra parts for range plinking lol

  • @ricardomagnificent
    @ricardomagnificent Před 2 měsíci

    Loved this video. look forward to more info and testing.

  • @perseusrex614
    @perseusrex614 Před 6 měsíci

    wow this vid was alot of work! great job guys, thanks. Would love to see with other arms as well!

  • @IntellectualTerritory
    @IntellectualTerritory Před rokem +30

    Halfway through watching this, I just want to say thank you for this in-depth detail. I ensure all my friends and myself buy from trex because I can rely on quality products and customer service to take care of me. Thank you for this video, and I look forward to seeing others go through this torture test now time to finish the video :D.

    • @johnoser2706
      @johnoser2706 Před rokem

      yeah watch a flood of Aero Videos hit the tube lol.

  • @DavidGhattas
    @DavidGhattas Před rokem +26

    Love this. As far as things to test out going forward - it would be great to see PSA and some more budget rifles (heck, would love to see their dagger run through its paces..) as many of the viewers of your channel are in the position of recommending first rifles to folks joining the community for the first time, and it would be great to see how some of those more "palatable entry rifles" perform.

  • @danielreyes7297
    @danielreyes7297 Před 3 měsíci

    Ive really been wanting to build an AR 308 for my 3rd rifle build. This video is an eye opener and to be honest is the type of experience that I expected when jumping into rifle building in the first place.

  • @RogerComar
    @RogerComar Před měsícem

    Great Video. Enjoyed watching!

  • @australovenatortomino_1741

    At this point you aren't just pushing the standarts, you are launching them to space and I am totally here for it.

  • @shawnm4503
    @shawnm4503 Před rokem +25

    Lucas, I really appreciate your approach to this review. I hope you do more long form in-depth reviews like this of other firearms. 👍👍

  • @longduckster
    @longduckster Před rokem

    I appreciate you doing this evaluation! I’d like to see more of this type video.

  • @maxander9010
    @maxander9010 Před rokem

    Great content guys ! Very informative Love your gear it’s top notch ! Thanks again!

  • @blainenienaber6790
    @blainenienaber6790 Před rokem +24

    Through the years of watching your videos I’ve always appreciated the excellent quality and detail. I’m glad to finally see some real professional product testing and hope to see more of it, it was a video of yours that sealed the deal for me to go with Glock for my first handgun. You’re a beaming light of truth in a sea of rubbish reviews.

  • @sjoracer2934
    @sjoracer2934 Před rokem +78

    As much as it sucks to see an Aero product fail, you definitely gave it a fair shakedown. I have an ar-15 from them, so im hoping to not have any issues with it. Can't wait to finish watching the video, and love everything you do for the 2A!
    Edit- After watching the end, I am glad to see that Aero is willing to work with you guys to help create a better rifle. It reminds me of the Garand Thumb Psak-74 situation.

    • @Osprey1994
      @Osprey1994 Před rokem +20

      So something you seem to miss it that AR-308 rifles aren't the most reliable. Even the Daniel Defense super expensive AR-308 option has reports of it not functioning properly. Getting a 308 AR pattern rifle that works is a bit of a chore, but it's definitely possible if you buy one that is known to work out of the box or you put in the effort to make sure one of the cheaper ones works.

    • @CMTechnica
      @CMTechnica Před rokem +5

      @@Osprey1994definitely. I built mine and getting it to cycle properly because of gas issues was easily the worst part about it.
      I love it right to death, but I’d rather build another 1911

    • @sjoracer2934
      @sjoracer2934 Před rokem +1

      @@Osprey1994 You're totally right, i'm just not very familiar to the platform so this was very eye-opening to me.

    • @battletank21
      @battletank21 Před rokem +4

      @@Osprey1994 This is exactly why the SCAR breaks. .308 is a rough cartridge on Semi or select fire guns. And requires some TOUGH internals.

    • @memememine1
      @memememine1 Před rokem +3

      @@Osprey1994 If the same test was run with the 5.56mm model do you expect it to have performed better?

  • @reed6104
    @reed6104 Před rokem +9

    The time and resources put into this video is appreciated. Well done. Some comparison candidates I'd be interested in seeing would be the DD5 V4, Stag 10, Ruger SFAR, or the Springfield Saint Victor.

    • @Vilkas2013
      @Vilkas2013 Před rokem +1

      I really want to see this kind of review of the SFAR. Nutnfancy and MAC did a general test but nothing like this. Lucas is very very serious about his guns and this clinical approach is something I'd like to see more of.

    • @Steven-gv1ke
      @Steven-gv1ke Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@Vilkas2013I agree! I'm super interested in the Ruger SFAR

  • @andrewbaker1078
    @andrewbaker1078 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I love the absolute honesty in this video. I would like to see the PSA 10 and the Ruger SFAR put through this testing. Keep making this fantastic content.

    • @Socca4life33
      @Socca4life33 Před 4 měsíci

      Me too, everyone shits on PSA. But I've shot thousands and thousands of rounds through my .223(obviously much easier round on the firearm). I'm literally just seeing how long it makes it with no cleaning or maintenance before it breaks. I take it yote hunting and hog hunting and it's been years of range days, hunts, night hunts with NVG optics and all kinds of stuff. Even occasionally shoot it suppressed and haven't cleaned it since like 2021 and it still shoots sub moa with the right ammo

  • @tjwill86
    @tjwill86 Před rokem +17

    Love to see some PSA tests for the 556 and 308, same with CMMG.

  • @joelerk6298
    @joelerk6298 Před rokem +16

    Content like this for free!? The value, entertainment and quality is unparalleled. Great data

  • @johnevans6474
    @johnevans6474 Před rokem

    Surprisingly interesting fine tuning of this rifle, very informative.

  • @shotgunmunger844
    @shotgunmunger844 Před 11 měsíci

    Incredible work. Thank you!