Bushcraft Test, Saw vs Axe vs Big Knife
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- In this video, we cover a three tool direct comparison to help you determine which of these options is the best for you!
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Realistically most people won't carry the heavier larger Scandi in their pack, they will opt for the Small Forest axe or even smaller/lighter hatchet/tomahawk. So the time and energy consumed will be even higher the lighter the weight of the axe/hatchet/tomahawk your using for the job.
The saw is going to be the most efficient, but there are considerations with blades, spares, sharpening, availability, cost etc.
A knife isn't a wood processing tool for bucking wood if you have tools like a axe/hatchet/tomahawk, and a saw you have most of your bases covered. Leave the knife for the finer carving, meat harvesting, and food prep tasks to keep that blade sharp for the important tasks it is really better suited for.
I know that won't be popular with the "baton the poop out of everything" crowd that seems to be the majority of the bushcraft scene, but that is just how I roll. LOL
Hahahahaha, I always carry a Scandi Forest Axe! But I get your comment, once again, this was really for speed testing, not so much what system to run in particular.
The thing that most people over look about the axe is that you get chunks of wood all over the ground if you gather the decent sized chunks you can toss them into your coals when cooking over a keyhole or tear drop fire to help adjust the temperature
Hey, that's a great point!
I live in the province of Quebec Canada. In these cold temperatures up here you will die with only a knife. You need all your energy, plenty of firewood and a quality shelter. You can pretty much do everything with an axe than with a knife and much more and with less effort. Cut and split wood, dig, cut and build a shelter through snow and ice, hammering stakes, make traps and weapons, cut through ice to set traps, ice fishing, to get water, or pull yourself out if you fall through the ice, dig in the ground to get roots, break stones to create other tools, use edge of axe to make sparks and create a fire, get chaga, dig and chop your way out if stuck in snow and ice with your car ect... With an angry grizzly bear in front of you what would you prefer as a weapon? My choice is clear, an axe! Plus a knife is not designed for the hard work that an axe or hatchet can do, so battering a knife on wood in a survival situation is dumb when it's the only tool that you must rely on to survive with.
I carry all three but tend to use my saw the most. I prefer clean cuts when building shelter and being older it's easier for me. I split large pieces of wood with the axe mostly for fires. I use my knife mostly on small kindling and food prep. I couldn't choose just one, I'm not that skilled.
Yup! That is my strategy too, most the time.
This is always a really good exercise because it puts to bed any doubts as to which tool is the most efficient for wood processing for "bushcraft" or "survival" tasks. The other two tools are also appropriate, just in other ways, for various other tasks, but IMO, the saw is king. I guess that is one reason I bring all three because you never know what you will run into. Axes are magic for some stuff as are knives. Just have all three and you will have no worries and no pointless arguments, LOL. Right? Oh, I would love for you to try one thing though to increase your efficiency in cutting logs with your knife. Try holding the piece vertically (like it was still in the ground, growing) and cutting into it at a minimum 45 degree angle, then slowly rotating the piece as you chop away. You will be able to cut the log in half in about half the time it would normally take, because you will weaken it all the way around to the point it can be broken a lot sooner than if you were chopping away at it lying on the ground, like most people do. I learned that technique from Ray Mears I believe. Just a suggestion to try out.
Yup, that was the entire reason for the video.
If you want a one tool does all do axe, if you want an efficient light carry do saw and knife. A saw can’t really be used by itself, you have to baton with a knife if you want to make fire in the rain unless you have birch bark or semi dry fat wood. Genuinely would just saw use an axe and edc pocket knife, which may have a saw on it. That’s what Fowler did the guy who won Alone.
True.
Good comparison, thanks!
If possible, I’d carry all three: a saw for felling and bucking, an axe for delimbing and splitting and a knife for crafting, feathersticking and batoning.
You could probably do with only a saw and a (big) knife, the axe isn’t that necessary.
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Thanks!
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It's not just the time that's important factor but the amount of energy it takes to get the job done. Especially if the rations become scarce.
That is very true!
Great information sir. I've always been a saw and tomahawk guy. Saws cut fast and easy but I would never want to de limb a tree with a saw lolol!!!! Blessings
That is a great setup!
Good comparison, one issue though.. thats not the best way to send a knife through a log like that. Using a baton to accurately cut "V" notches all the way around is much faster than just wacking away at it, half of those hits dont make much/any progress.
Fwiw.. my standard gear is always a Bradford 5.5 in elmax, a Silky 240 pro (its super light), plus maybe a Scandi, Small Forest, or Wildlife axe if I'll be out for awile, depending on distance and season.
Try axe vs saw vs "kukri". That would be much better test.
I love my silky big boy 2000. Cuts wood great, can hack off A fish head, even gut a fish. Can cut wedges, wedges can split wood if you start with a relief cut. Awesome video great job just passing on stuff IV actually done
Awesome!!!
You can split wood with an axe directly as-well. Saw 1/2 of the way into the wood 1/2th of the way from the woods ending. Then turn the wood facing the 1/2 cut you made and bang it on the ground till one of the sides split. Then do it again for the other side except the cut away side faces up.
Depends on the job, Busting fat wood stumps from the hurricane ? I prefer the axe. Going lightweight ? Find a stone. Splitting 4" or so log's ? I prefer my knife. Bush crafting ? A saw is handy. But honestly I gather fire size wood to cook on rain, or shine every day without any of those tools.
Well, aren't you special! haha have some primitive fun!!
You can carry a file and honing puck and service the edge of the axe and knife in the field. But the saw is so very good at the one task that it does and so relatively low weight it is worth having.
True...
Good comparison, in general, as you say, for evaluating speed of this particular task. However, I'm not sure the competition was entirely fair...lol. While the Buck Thug performs above its weight class in chopping, I still wouldn't deem it a chopping knife, personally. It would be interesting to see how something like a full-sized kukri or a traditional Thai enep would compare to the axe and saw.
In a way I agree, the Thug is a bit of a featherweight.
But it does pack a punch for its weight, making it as versatile as you can get.
Well the knife is best for smaller jobs such as tinder making and cooking , a saw is best for one specific use - sawing, while an axe is good at multiple jobs from chopping and splitting, to carving and harvesting and the only one I use when building a cabin. It also requires the least maintenance as long you don't drop it in the sea.
New sub. Nice video. I don't like using a knife to chop thru something that large but I would be happy with the knife and either the axe or the saw.
Yeah, agreed, and thanks for the sub!!!
great comparison vid saw are the fastest of course but like you said it's versitility stay safe brother
Yup, thanks!!!
Say Heah, Good job keep up the good work, Thanx You. Infact I like using all three, I call it a Basic Trio. Infact just recently I used my new S. O. G. Pillar Fix Blade with my 2HAWKS Double Bit Hatchet and my Wicked Tough Saw, a lovely piece of kit.,,. p
Nice!!! I bet that setup works well!!
Alyeska Bushcraft Oh, Yeah it's a nice piece of kit. But the beauty is, I can carry all three on my Survival Belt with my Canteen and my Necessities Pouch. I really enjoy watching your videos, Please Say Heah to your Missus, heh heh heh, Nice assistant, She's nice.,,. p
imagine using the side of the axe to try to cut wood.
That would be rough
If only one choice is a must for multi funtions , i take the knife
True
I can see why the knife failed as an axe but why does it fail as a saw?
Huh?
@@AlaskanFrontier1 Why does a knife make a bad saw? How does the corrugation make the saw cut through wood better?
To me this idea of the one best tool just doesn't work. I carry both a small axe and a small saw, the cold steel frontier hawk and the silky pocket boy 130, which combined weigh 1.25 pounds (620 gr.) I've never needed something done that this combo can't handle, trees up to about 5 to 6 inches across. Since I carry both of these on my person, tomahawk through my belt and pocket boy in... well my pocket actually, there's little chance I'm going to lose them (unless I've lost everything). What I'm saying is I'd rather carry many smaller, lighter tools working together than one big one I'm trying to make do everything. Good vid though, I'm just offering thoughts here, not criticizing.
Hmm, that is a neat philosophy thanks for sharing!!
i like using an axe on green wood it bites deep and throws good chips
True that!
Great channel, new sub here
ATB Del
Prepper Del thanks, thanks for the sub too!!!
Violet chachki is that you?
Nope
you look like violet chachki out of drag
And you call that a "big knife" ? Tsk.
Yup!