DHATL17 Smash 4 - NRG | Nairo (Bowser) Vs. TSM | Zero (Diddy) - WiiU Singles L9ths - Smash Wii U
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I like how nairo looked at the screen so he wouldn't end up on the top 10 premature pop offs.
ye he had to make sure he didn't die after flamethrowering offstage and zero in the star ko animation LOL
Pretty much
19:48 See people, you always check and make sure that youre alive, preventing a star KO jank before you do a pop off
that's exactly what I said! So glad Nairo wasn't stupidly popping off.
So I guess future success did happen (:
Haven't seen truer words all day
Lol that right there was a top play of the week. Some next level shit. Changing the meta. Not going autopilot and actually thinks about the star KO and not being the next Trevonte.
Carlos Muñoz Bastias Wow, can you imagine how awful it would have been if Nairo would have lost from the star KO there? Only the third time he's ever beaten ZeRo, and the star KO almost snatched his victory away.
19:50 I'm so happy that Nairo paid attention to the screen even after he took Zero's stock as if you look closely, Bowser was falling off the edge after the last up air and a star KO occurred. If Nairo just stupidly popped off without checking, it is likely that Bowser would've fell to the bottom blast zone before the star KO animation ended. That's why he starred at the screen for a sec, to do the up b.
he would have died if Diddy didn't die. if you look closely, he lost his double jump and he fell off with fire breath. that end lag plus the loss of his jump could have killed him lol. Thank god it didn't.
That's happened because he knew the up aerial would have definitively killed at that percent lol, don't think that if Nairo wasn't 100% sure of get the kill he would have did that mistake. The hype of winning the set just made Nairo to do that bit error, nothing to care anyway.
Lethal Blue there was no chance Diddy wouldn't die. I was concerned however that diddy percent and browser rage was too high for the combo to work but once it connected especially on dreamland there was no surviving it for diddy. Much heavier characters wouldn't have had a chance either.
yeah I know. I was just saying IF he had lived Nairo would have been fucked.
Great awareness on his part, I agree.
Watching Nairo's Bowser always makes me share a manly tear.
Pablo Ugalde personally I would shed a manly tear but feel free to share one (?)
Pussyboyz
Nairo is so good with Bowser. He knows he can get hit as much as he wants and get a couple hits and a grab and get the kill. The thing that really won hit the set was his mixups on recovery so he never got gimped or daired at a very early percent. GG.
Flarg_Ssb haha flarg
Not gonna lie I was expecting a lot of dairs. Excellent job with that recovery.
I was playing bowser on fg the other day against a good sheik. The whole match was just me getting hit off stage and occasionally getting fairs every now and then. It came down to me struggling to survive at about 200% and the sheik sitting pretty and needle camping at 35%. Thinking he had already won I guess he let his guard down. I got a grab, followed his DI, and usmashed. He should not have airdodged.
Idk how he does it but he plays bowser well without using the tech, nairos bowser is pretty much grabs
That's Bowser's main strength. Honestly, out of all the notable Bowsers Nairo is probably the best (even without maining him), and I doubt it's a coincidence that he's also the most grab-heavy.
as a bowser main, i always thought that bowser would never get into the meta, but players like Ash, le troof, and now nairo are making me proud of being a bowser main
#BowserInTheMeta
octo draws and you could be one of them to bring bowser to the top!
but not today, selled the Wii U to get the switch :,v
octo draws if you haven't already, i'd recommend you to check out LordMix and Deluxemenu, they're probably the two most hype Bowser mains atm. Obviously their fundamentals aren't as good as Nairo's, but they're much more interesting to watch imo.
ok, thank you!
Makibaz... seriusly, no one know who is this man, but he is fucking crazy.
He never go to big tournaments, only on local tournaments. Guess, one time Sol decided to go in one of those local tournaments, and had a fight with Makibaz. He fucking destroyed Sol. Like, he almost JV3 him.
I think he may seriusly be TOP 3 Bowser, for what i saw, he is probabily better than Deluxemenu. Hell, i would say he MAY be as good as Lord Mix! Too bad he doesn't go to big tournaments. :(
P.S
And guess what, he use Blue Bowser. LOL Blue Bowser OP confirmed.
Someone make a gif of EE slapping Nairo lol
Fuuko ee was popping off harder than nairo xD
4:31 Melee Marth be like
ViwwiV I'm mad.
Glad someone else caught that, couldn't believe the . . . Grab box? Is that a term? Of Bowser.
it was because of diddy's fair
Dear God, absolutely disgusting
Imagine if his grab was always like that.
He would be S tier.
Dreams do come true
on dreamland as well
In Dreamhack
from Dream bowser
JumpMan64 that one didn't make sense LOL
fuck you
Lol some of these comments are mad funny. At the same time it's unfortunate to see a lot of baseless disrespect towards ZeRo. Nairo and ZeRo are besties, so he's not gonna be too upset about the loss. It's a damn shame the bracket ended up the way it did but we wouldn't have gotten this hype set otherwise. I do hope this is the momentum boost Nairo needs to put on a show tomorrow.
I literally cried at the end of that set 😭
Why? You should know better than everyone how OP Nairo Bowser is ;P
you good bro?
same. i cried he didn't go Zero Suit Samus.
ZSM kbandz ikr poor zero. good for nairo tho
omg same a popped off twice as hard as Nairo did then cried
This set was so good. Sucks someone has to lose. Just so happened Zero fell short this time. Good games to both people they played their asses off. Only critique, Zero monkey flips a little too much. More peanuts. But im not number 1 in the world since the game came out. So i wouldnt know.
Nimbus Yeah. You are right. He side b'd against that Palutena (Prince, I think?) And ate a set ending up air.
Zero also threw out one of the worst spaced fairs ever which led to the end of the set
ZeRo was going SSJ2, and Nairo shut that down with his SSJ Blue (Bowser)
Selena is Best Waifu yooooo 😂
When I saw that fast fall fair get shielded live in game 5, I already knew nairo had it. Congrats to nairo for eliminating zero. It's a shame I won't be seeing them both in top 8.
Bowser analysis coming soon
Beat the number one in the world with bowser and he was using his best character. This needs to go on the record books. Congratulations Nairo.
Is Dreamland a bad stage for ZeRo?
Just think it
Loses to Larry Lurr at Mexico Saga
Loses to Luhtie at Civil War
Loses to Nairo at Dreamhack Atlanta
Koto Dia coincidence? I think not
Koto Dia
It's a primo stage for Bowser. Low ceiling + tri-platforms make side B deadlier
Isn't this the same stage as that Battlefield or whichever that has 3 platform on it.?
Koto Dia as a Diddy main I really don't like Dreamland , I think it's a Diddy thing.
Trainer_ UpTilt it is
Nairo did his homework!!
He played his heart out in this set and you can tell from all of the correct recovery options and dodged typical setups Zero lands on people. Not to mention on a huge hurtbox character like Bowser! I never knew Bowser could recover sooo low but he managed to dodge out every Dair minus the one on the last match and I would dare to say it was only because of Dreamlands ledge.
Loved seeing Nairo play this through and stick to his guns with Bowser! Much credit!! And very well played!
Dreams come true in dreamland
Tbh Nairo won this solely off of his skill as a player and his understanding of neutral.
He has SO much more to learn with Bowser...
My only critic is the very rare use of the down aerial. This is a fucking good move, compared to Sheik/ZSS down Aerial has a super ridiculus hitbox, and is also so powerful, it become a kill move at around 100%
Ryng Tolu with enough landing lag Zero can practically full charge fsmash if he power shields it. But yeah it's pretty good on for Glory
when playing casual matches dair and down b kick ass but in the meta I'd avoid doing it most of the time
Bro this shit has to stop.
MR R used Sheik down Aerial many times, and is a way stupid move compared to Bowser down aerial, yet it worked many times, also just saying, every time Nairo used down aerial with Bowser, he always got him, so really the hell are you talking about lol.
But yeah, of course if i say "use down aerial more", you of course always think i'm talking about "spam down aerial every fucking time".
Ryng Tolu pls don't use down air
"AWH NOOOOOO"
4:32 seeing this after playing ultimate for so long is actually terrifying
OH GOD I JUST REMEMBERED
I missed this live but I just popped off so hard LET'S GO NAIRO
Damn my heart was racing and I popped off at work for Nairo. 😂 That felt like a grand finals.
this match gave me so much stress jesus fucking christ, but congrats to nairo for beating Zero with Bowser.
Top 10 anime plot twists.
I really wanted ZeRo to win... I wanted him to win because of his no win streak and all the pressure of staying on top, being the best.
But I am very happy and proud of Nairo! It's been forever since he's taken a win against ZeRo and it must feel great.
One thing I could say is that ZeRo didn't go in for as much grabs, relying too much on the banana peel for an opening. Which is understandable because he's fighting a Bowser, but still.
Anyway, great match to watch and I hope the best for ZeRo in his upcoming tournaments and my wishes for Nairo in winning this one!
Anyway... I think It'd be cool if he picks up secondary. It's be cool if we saw Lucina again although since Ally beat her I don't see that, Cloud, or Sheik. I'd really love to see the best Sheik make a comeback.
He beat ZeRo at momocon just 2 months ago, this is far from "forever" :-/
Still, congrats to both player.
As a new bowser main I analyze this gameplay every day lmao
No matter how many times I watch this, this set is still very stressful.
19:32 Surviving by the hair of his... skin on his teeth lmao boi sounded like he was gonna pass out
19:50
Nairo was BMing with the fire breath off the stage and almost died before Zero did, thats why Zero raised his eyebrows at the end.
Nairo being my favorite player, I was so happy to see Nairo conquer his biggest demon, Zero, with Bowser. The best player in the world was beat by a Bowser. Let that sink in.
Yami Bowser is actually good lul
The point is heavies have never been good in these games until now.
Yami
Heavies have been good since Hikaru lol
Zero is his friend...
Bringer of dis pear Ryo
Just out of curiosity (I'm not a hardcore competitive player by any means) did they nerf bowser's u throw recently? I've been maining bowser on for glory and when I up throw they don't seem to go nearly as far vertically as they do in the vid. I may be doing something wrong tho idk
Nairo is the champion of us Bowser mains.
It seems evident to me that this was a big endorsement for Bowser. Nairo's Bowser play is deficient in some aspects. Where he won was his fundamentals, dodging, shielding, etc. What made the difference between winning and losing was Bowser's staying power, and launching power, and that Bowser is fast enough that he can utilize his power effectively in skilled hands. I've seen other Bowser players utilize firebreath better, down B better, and edgeguard a lot better. Granted, Zero wasn't exactly allowing himself to be knocked off stage frequently, but there were definitely missed opportunities for Nairo. In the end I think Zero just wasn't cautious enough, not properly respecting Bowser's power. And Nairo, being an excellent, well-disciplined player, caught too many openings for high dmg and launches for Zero to come out on top.
Bowser may not be Bayo, or even Cloud, but Bowser looked like the superior character here. Zero didn't really play poorly overall. Bowser just hit a hell of a lot harder, and was fast enough to make it happen often enough to score a solid win.
Nice comment!
Wtfff. Bowser's Up-B/recovery in Smash 4 is insane, lmao
i've never popped off so hard at something until i saw this live holy fuck nairo's a god
I noticed flame breath was never used, is it not useful competitively?
I need to practice that 50-50 more... So you double jump simultaneous to the up air?
6:46 what made that banana peel fall off? it was on ledge then it just fell, ive never seen that. was it a wind box?
I wish I could like this video more than once!
What is the music in the background name at 3:40 ?
Fucking finally, holy shit thought Nairo was gonna blow it again.
Would it ever be viable to Dair with Bowser when getting are juggled like that?
Battle of the predators
I sincerely hope you feel like shit right now.
@@ryngtolu4334 why he’s not lying
@@mrcoolguy2526 Nairo is not a predator
@@ryngtolu4334 he got head from a 15 year old dude u can’t tell me he’s not
It turns out Nairo is innocent
Commentary was hype af and that made me hype af! Go Nairo, ZeRo did great! It sucks they had to meet before Top 8 though.
That was the most hype set from this game I've ever seen.
i feel like Nairo's popoff in this set and his set against Elegant were nerfed by him keeping his controller in his hand while popping off
smash U is the best smash because of how balanced the roster is...love it...we need more samus and peach players
I think there are other characters who need more representation than those at this point.
Like Charizard. Still can't believe that guy doesn't have a single strong face player yet.
Kid Icarus elegant
i thought he was a luigi main
yeah charizard is absent....i think pika is waaaaay better than people think too
elegant has a charizard secondary. also, esam plays pika.
This was the most intense incredible match i've ever seen. And it's what inspired me to practice bowser!
zero's face at 19:54
"wow, just lost to a bowser"
yo how do i watch the shits in order
Fully deserved victory. It's always a pleasure to see top tiers losing.
That banana tripping Nairo when it hit Bowser's head in game 3 was one of the weirdest things I've seen in this game.
Nairo just bumped Bowser higher on Zero Tier List
As Bowser, are you allowed to slam am opponent off stage? Nairo went for regular grabs when he could have insta killed when he was up two stocks to one. Is side special banned?
AnKer2k Yes you are. (I think)
It would make sense
Zero was probably like: Man that cheesy ass grab combo...
What a hype set!!
For a second I thought zero was gonna take it but nairo did it.
LET'S FUCKING GO NAIRO!!!!!
LET'S FUCKING GO BOWSER!!!!
Can't get over the fact that he kept looking at the screen to make sure he didn't die.
Common sense but most people don't seem to understand that lol
As a Bowser main, I am pleased that a Bowser single handedly beat ZeRo.
He still ain't Top 20 tho
yes he is
admit it, guys. we all know Nairo used Bowser thanks to the recent Isaw Smash's Art of Bowser video
Dude I love smash commentary
what tier list?
This match will be played again, but in prison.
And when both of them die someday this match will be played again in hell.
I'm still amazed that all the projectile and item spam in the world couldn't save Zero this time. all that range advantage and he still squandered it
And they say Zero is boring to watch...
This set was so hype!
Fucking hype ass match! Congrats nairo, it's 10-2... just 9 more.
Nairo is good with bowser BUT UP B OUT OF SHIELD WITH BOWSER ITS SO GOOD
Matou its also such a good edge guarding too! i have no idea why he doesnt use it!
Yobanisan , He didn't edgeguard much altogether. And it's not like edgeguarding is a Bowser weakness.
Why does it look like the Diddy Kong picture for ZeRo's tag during the matches in the top left corner make Diddy look like he asking "you got games on yo phone?"
MAGA 2016 - I'll consider it pointless nobody 👍😊
13:34 Im dead lmao
This video made me main bowser lol
I like that Ally doesn't take himself too seriously.
This is where the hype is
How did bowser have the force?
That's depressing. But that Bowser is *incredibly* hype.
Gotta love it when commentators says "Oh No, Not like this...!"
i am very proud of nairo every naifu supports you dude
Rip nairo.
That grab range PogChamp
yooooooo!!!! salem, samsora and nairo are saying : go home kid!!!!
Ayy where all my Bowser mains at!?!
Nairo is a genius!!! Literally goes ZSS everytime they played after trying his Bowser once at Zero saga for half a year to throw Zero off when he actually decides to go Bowser. Zero not knowing he is going to go Bowser will not have the proper training for it. Genius!!!!!! Jokes aside, why dafuq didn't Nairo just kept going Bowser after Zero Saga. Lost so much sets vs him going ZSS. lol
Yeah, after December 2016, Nairo started to use Bowser a lot, but after February he stopped using him at tournaments.
Well, looks like he is back, and he is HUNGRY. :p I can assure that after this, Nairo is gonna use Bowser WAAAAAAAAAY more lol.
I'm not sure, grapplers (DK/Bowser) are amazing counterpicks in this game because of how simple their very rewarding punish game is based around grabs, you have to play a very unique style against them, I don't think its good to use them all the time, but as an occasional counterpick, which is what Nairo used here and it worked wonders.
I believe that if Nairo is gonna fight MKleo in future, he will most likely use Bowser.
We saw that Nairo with Bowser do way, WAY better against Cloud compared to ZSS, so there are big chances to see Nairo Bowser VS Cloud Leo. That could be fucking hype too :O
I don't want to take credit, but it seems weirdly coincidental that a few weeks back I tweeted to Nairo for him to bring back Bowser and explained why and not long after he began using Bowser again.
Imperialdramon definitely smart not to take credit
Two of my favorite things in Sm4sh; seeing Zero lose & seeing Nairo win. LOVE IT.
When you realize that Zero could have won if he just DI'd off stage when Nairo used Flying Slam at 18:52. smh
Superpokemaster
Think he was dead either way
As long as Nairo was holding back they would have either stayed on the top platform or wound up on the left one
Nicholas Omans The person with the lower percent always have more control over Flying Slam. Since Zero had the lower percent, Nairo couldn't have controlled it much at all unless Zero doesn't di.
Superpokemaster I guess Zero either forgot or he was flustered.
"The person with the lower percent" not really.
Actually, Bowser can still controll the direction even with 20/30% more than the other charter. Only when you have big percent difference you can controll the direction.
Zero also missed a chance to win when they were both on the top play for a sec, he could have just ran up and grabbed nairo and hoo haa'ed him to win, but everything is better in hindsight
Nairo is my favorite smash bros player, That's another win against Zero Nairo beat Zero again I knew Nairo can do it I'm not Disrespecting Zero I just love Nairo more I bet Nairo can beat Zero again (:
Hope it was a screen K.O. at the end because zero actually deserves it after all those D-air's he tried to spike with, and I'll face the facts i was salty when i thought zero was going to win but *IM DEFINITELY* happy that nairo won! :D
Lets fucking go so proud of Nairo and great set
Bowser and DK are top tiers.
EJJTM no
EJJTM high tier, but not top tier
TOP Tier, no.
High tier, absolutely.
I'd say they are Top 20.
They ate very inconsistent
That boi nairo sweating his ass off on that last set
did you peeps notice zero's face expression at the end when nairo made sure he wouldn't fall off completely? haha zero thought maybe that would of worked xD
The absolute fucking madman did it :o
“A lot of people have been wondering why I spent the entire set camping, see the end of the set”
Zero hasn't been doing so well since Evo. I'm really worried about him😥
"OMG Bowser is so broken and braindead, he beat ZeRo so he must be as broken as Bayonetta"
That was the last thing said by someone that used to be called "my friend"
Mr Karotiko LOL
I do hate people with that mentality
Is this Zero's off day?
Confused why the commentator said "not like this" when Nairo got the up throw up air. Like how else did you expect him to try to take the stock???? Let me know!!
God this commentary was ass
I love when Nairo beats Zero. YESSSS
20:00 EE slapping Nairo lol
サブキャラもちゃんと使って勝っちゃうNAIRO大好き