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  • Today we restore this great tradition with a stand-off between two legendary heavies: the Soviet T-72A and the American M1 Abrams.
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  • @brucegrant7884
    @brucegrant7884 Pƙed 5 lety +1054

    Hey, you intrepid tankers
 I want to correct a slight misunderstanding that COULD exist! I narrated, “ One might argue that the Abrams has better armour on the sides - as well as an autoloader that makes it a considerably deadlier opponent.” It should have been, “One might argue that the Abrams has better armour on the sides - but, the T80’s autoloader that makes it a considerably more explosive target.”

    • @Berserker3062
      @Berserker3062 Pƙed 5 lety +14

      So, I don't get it. If you all know the M1 isn't a real 10.0 why is it placed there?

    • @JamesVDBosch
      @JamesVDBosch Pƙed 5 lety +43

      @@Berserker3062
      Uhmm, what?
      The M1 is likely to be the strongest MBT in the game shared with the Type 90.

    • @JamesVDBosch
      @JamesVDBosch Pƙed 5 lety +2

      @Singha Mura
      The Leopard 2A4 is literally just a worse M1IP in every single aspect possible.
      But sure, totally takes first place ))))))

    • @JamesVDBosch
      @JamesVDBosch Pƙed 5 lety +3

      @Singha Mura
      Mobility? M1IP.
      Protection (turret)? M1IP.
      Protection (hull)? M1IP.
      Survivability? M1IP.
      Gun handling? M1IP.
      Firepower? Tied.
      But sure, Leo 2A4 is totally better.

    • @JamesVDBosch
      @JamesVDBosch Pƙed 5 lety +7

      @Singha Mura
      M1IP has a vastly superior hull traverse.
      M1IP has a quicker turret traverse and slightly better gun depression.
      HEAT-FS is worse as a stock round than M735.
      Doesn't have better post-pen damage, calibre is irrelevant, it's the coding, and they're coded the same.
      Survivability is MUCH worse on the Leo 2A4, driver is off-set to the right and is now in a direct line with the gunner and commander, easy 3/4 OHKs.
      Also, hull ammo rack.
      Leo 2A4's weakspots are larger than the M1IP's, so moot point there as well.
      ''M1IP's insufficiency''
      LEL
      Sure, currently sitting on a 6.5 - 1 K/D ratio, 75% winrate, average of 3.1 kills per match M1 Abrams.
      Totally insufficient, buff plsss...

  • @Lait_De_Brebis
    @Lait_De_Brebis Pƙed 3 lety +463

    The Abrams does have an autoloader. It's just different kind. Its name is "organic autoloader" or more often called "crew member"

    • @onlinebean9813
      @onlinebean9813 Pƙed 3 lety +14

      Not funny did not laugh

    • @Lait_De_Brebis
      @Lait_De_Brebis Pƙed 3 lety +70

      @@onlinebean9813 Understandable, have a great day.

    • @umbananaqualquer4052
      @umbananaqualquer4052 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      I am so sorry to get it to work tomorrow

    • @BYRDE1917
      @BYRDE1917 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      @@onlinebean9813 it is not meant to be funny

    • @diligentone-six2688
      @diligentone-six2688 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      It's called Effort and Exercise with little complaints nor any disadvantages.

  • @YuriYoshiosan
    @YuriYoshiosan Pƙed 4 lety +707

    "No Retreat."
    - Stalin
    That's why Soviets can't reverse their tanks.

  • @siddhanttambe4066
    @siddhanttambe4066 Pƙed 5 lety +1045

    Wait what?
    Abrams has autoloader
    Gaijin is high on snails...

    • @mindfreak078589
      @mindfreak078589 Pƙed 5 lety +30

      Nah they just don't bother to even play what they've created. They just want you to shower them with schmeckles and leave so you don't over use their underpowered engine and servers.

    • @samuelmerrill7661
      @samuelmerrill7661 Pƙed 5 lety +10

      The Abrahams actually doesn't have an automatic loader

    • @callmejoejoe6516
      @callmejoejoe6516 Pƙed 5 lety +6

      The Abrams new version that coming out will have a autoloader but there no abrams in series at the moment that have one

    • @Huskycomicowner
      @Huskycomicowner Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Lol

    • @excalibur_maga6188
      @excalibur_maga6188 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      @@callmejoejoe6516 No it won't. Stop spouting BS.

  • @brucegrant7884
    @brucegrant7884 Pƙed 5 lety +133

    It's great that all you guys are so tuned-in to what is being said. I also have to be kept on my toes, to make sure that I say the correct thing! Thanks for being so attentive. We really do LOVE your comments!

  • @bryannrisse3852
    @bryannrisse3852 Pƙed 5 lety +263

    5:07 The M1 Abram does not have a auto loader. What the Hell

  • @phippsies001
    @phippsies001 Pƙed 5 lety +317

    Once again proof the dev's dont actually play the game at top tier

    • @murphym3755
      @murphym3755 Pƙed 5 lety +7

      r Phippsies Or care about America... 😱😱😱

    • @lorddeathofmurdermountain76
      @lorddeathofmurdermountain76 Pƙed 4 lety +10

      The t-72 should have been blown up they were not using heat rounds just apfsds rounds

    • @maxim6088
      @maxim6088 Pƙed 4 lety +11

      Abrams is much better then the t72a both irl and in game, but the t80 is an equally good vehicle irl, but in game it is better, that is a it unfair, although it is what it is, and for me an American top tier player it does not make a difference, I think it's ok

    • @Fyrdman
      @Fyrdman Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@lorddeathofmurdermountain76 APFSDS is better than HEAT in the game, because the latter ignores the angle of armour when you penn something.

    • @mr.stealyourgirl1104
      @mr.stealyourgirl1104 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Fr fr, the whole game is rigged in high tier

  • @steventapper4866
    @steventapper4866 Pƙed 3 lety +40

    Gaijin casually ignoring the huge turret ring on the abrams and the ammo carrousel on the t-72 And t-80b

  • @BarManFesteiro
    @BarManFesteiro Pƙed 5 lety +166

    Somethings they say in this video makes me think the devs dont play the game

    • @andromeda4047
      @andromeda4047 Pƙed 3 lety

      ĐŻ ĐżŃ‹Ń‚Đ°Đ»ŃŃ ограть ĐœĐ° ĐČашох Ń‚Đ°ĐœĐșах ĐŸĐœĐž ĐŽĐ”Ń€ŃŒĐŒĐŸĐČŃ‹Đ”

    • @andromeda4047
      @andromeda4047 Pƙed 3 lety

      I tried to play on your tanks, they're shitty. Hello from Russia

    • @andromeda4047
      @andromeda4047 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/VCY2cAQ-A9I/video.html

    • @majk5995
      @majk5995 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@andromeda4047 you know War Thunder was made by Russians right?

    • @Rguhbuh
      @Rguhbuh Pƙed 2 lety

      @@majk5995 so?

  • @Citizen_Snips1
    @Citizen_Snips1 Pƙed 5 lety +37

    2:04 *Notices a lack of ammo in the turret carousel, the LFP shot would of likely set off any ammo stored there*

    • @MaskFky
      @MaskFky Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

      Ngl nobody cares, it doesn't matter anyway

    • @wacky_duck1095
      @wacky_duck1095 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +3

      @@MaskFky yeah the whole turret being blown sky high because of the ammo doesnt matter

    • @deathmetalfan
      @deathmetalfan Pƙed 7 dny

      @@wacky_duck1095 usually when im playing t72 only my driver dies cuz the abrams is a lot taller and doesnt hit the ammo with the angle

  • @CathFawr
    @CathFawr Pƙed 5 lety +397

    Uh.. Abrams autoloader?

    • @Pulkz
      @Pulkz Pƙed 5 lety +12

      About to say

    • @spacialsonic7779
      @spacialsonic7779 Pƙed 5 lety +7

      Abrams not autoloader because need loader for reload skill :Kappa:

    • @mindfreak078589
      @mindfreak078589 Pƙed 5 lety +18

      Just go to show that these people don't even play the gamr.

    • @sarttee
      @sarttee Pƙed 5 lety +10

      you would think that gaijin would atleast do research before makign a video.... but w/e

    • @sovietred7371
      @sovietred7371 Pƙed 5 lety +7

      Slip of the tongue maybe?

  • @almaandreucci6746
    @almaandreucci6746 Pƙed 5 lety +186

    If the abrams is worse than the T80B why is it that its repair cost is 17k sl compared to 5k sl of the T80B???

    • @almaandreucci6746
      @almaandreucci6746 Pƙed 5 lety +68

      @IS 2 mod.1944 the rep costs in the game aren t based on historical data but supposed gameplay balance

    • @fsxlover2maumauthelink5
      @fsxlover2maumauthelink5 Pƙed 5 lety +16

      Gaijin still thinks its 1.77 when the abrams clubbed everything.

    • @PAUL-ESNEED
      @PAUL-ESNEED Pƙed 5 lety +14

      It's Gaijin lmao.
      I'd take the T-80B over the Abrams any day, the only good thing about US 10.0 is the AH1Z.

    • @Loki1701e
      @Loki1701e Pƙed 5 lety +21

      If it iwas historical the t eries would be pluaged with engine problems, ammo problems, armour quality problems(ie the armour is not the best quality). But it is supposed to be balance. Supposedly, to all the whiners(slavs and wheabos) the abrams is "op" so it is got the high repair cost, while every other thanks is cheap. If t80 is better than abrams then why is abrams 10 times more expensive. And abrams irl with m833 would bash t80.

    • @Huskycomicowner
      @Huskycomicowner Pƙed 5 lety +11

      Russian bias.

  • @HEATSEEKR
    @HEATSEEKR Pƙed 5 lety +188

    If it's worse than the T-80, then why does it cost so much

    • @flash98449
      @flash98449 Pƙed 5 lety +79

      Thats how capitalism works

    • @provision9495
      @provision9495 Pƙed 4 lety +8

      Actually no, uranium was not in the Abrams chassis until the m1a1 HA, watch the Scottish koala

    • @voltagedrop5899
      @voltagedrop5899 Pƙed 4 lety +22

      +
      HEATSEEKER3227 because they don't want you to research it since you'll realize how laughably underpowered it is compared to its real-life counterparts that you'll realize russian bias was a thing all along.

    • @maxim6088
      @maxim6088 Pƙed 4 lety +7

      @@voltagedrop5899 well, not true the m1 variant of the Abrams is not that good irl, and the t80 is as good or better irl

    • @cursedcliff7562
      @cursedcliff7562 Pƙed 4 lety +13

      @@voltagedrop5899 yeah sure russian bias...
      Sure there is buddy

  • @sirilluminarthevaliant2895
    @sirilluminarthevaliant2895 Pƙed 5 lety +48

    Abrams : hey t-72
    T-72 : yes
    Abrams: -*dreamily* remember the good ole days. The gulf war
    T-72: *flashback to screams of terror and Abrams tanks rolling unharmed right past a line of destroyed t-72s as he hid in a shed*
    T-72: *shudders* y-yeah whatever you say

    • @command_unit7792
      @command_unit7792 Pƙed 5 lety +10

      Abrams tanks are burning in yemen while you have multiple videos of T72's surviving heavy atgm shoots easily!

    • @sirilluminarthevaliant2895
      @sirilluminarthevaliant2895 Pƙed 5 lety +10

      Command_Unit That was the result of very poor use.

    • @command_unit7792
      @command_unit7792 Pƙed 5 lety +8

      @@sirilluminarthevaliant2895 The Abrams where used by the saudis they have a bigger military budget then Russia against rebles...While the T72s in Iraq where used by mostly somewhat capable crews against the US army with clear air superiority...

    • @Weltenbastler2000
      @Weltenbastler2000 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      @@sirilluminarthevaliant2895 same story with the Iraqi M1s or T72s.
      These comparisons are useless in reality and can be only used in game. Anything else is nonsense. As long as you are not a country buying tanks but these decisions are mostly made in a political context anyways. I don't think Iraq replaces its M1s because of their performance but due to a bad US Government.

    • @sirilluminarthevaliant2895
      @sirilluminarthevaliant2895 Pƙed 5 lety +6

      Max B. Those t-72s couldn’t kill a single one. The best troops in one of the most powerful armies at the time. That’s pretty solid proof. The saudis sending out an unsupported tank then leaving it in the open is pure idiocy

  • @Market-Motivation
    @Market-Motivation Pƙed 3 lety +19

    M1 Abrams: We need backup!
    (M1A2 has joined the chat)

  • @sethl6626
    @sethl6626 Pƙed 5 lety +101

    M1A1 and M1A1HA are added into the game:
    Russians: *dear Neptune*

    • @Graczent.D
      @Graczent.D Pƙed 5 lety +22

      *T-80U Joins the Game*

    • @Citizen_Snips1
      @Citizen_Snips1 Pƙed 5 lety +16

      @@Graczent.D *M829 Depleted Uranium Sabot designed to counter Konkat-5 has joined the match*

    • @elroynathanael6535
      @elroynathanael6535 Pƙed 5 lety +18

      T-90A Joined

    • @Citizen_Snips1
      @Citizen_Snips1 Pƙed 5 lety +14

      @@elroynathanael6535 *M1A2 SEPv4 has entered the arena*

    • @sethl6626
      @sethl6626 Pƙed 5 lety +11

      Citizen Snips *God has left the room* 😂😂😂

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 Pƙed 5 lety +78

    M1A2 is coming I guess.

    • @swt_purged132
      @swt_purged132 Pƙed 5 lety +5

      It better

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 Pƙed 5 lety +4

      @@swt_purged132 Only the Chally 2 and Leo 2A5 have been confirmed up until now right?

    • @swt_purged132
      @swt_purged132 Pƙed 5 lety +4

      @@imnotusingmyrealname4566 i rly hope they add the M1A2 or atleast the M1A1 mod with the 120 . But idk they may not

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      @@swt_purged132 I don't know how great the 105 is but they should add the M1A1 because the Leo 2A5 seems pretty powerful. Then there's also the T-90A from the April fool's joke which will come 100%. I'm just waiting for the Rh-120 L/55 on the 2A6 and 2A7.

    • @swt_purged132
      @swt_purged132 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      @@imnotusingmyrealname4566 the 105 is decient right now but if they add the M1A1 or the M1A2 they need to give it a 120.

  • @xXMaverick56Xx
    @xXMaverick56Xx Pƙed 5 lety +42

    You forgot to mention that the repair cost of the M1 Abrams is x2/x3 higher than the Russian one...bias?

    • @arkaiko5401
      @arkaiko5401 Pƙed 5 lety +9

      Bias, or is a very expensive tank in real life??? Soviet/russian are the best in cost/quality

    • @xXMaverick56Xx
      @xXMaverick56Xx Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Sordo Mudo the game does not keep into account real costs of production but somehow some weird stats that inefficiently reflect the effectiveness of a vehicle

    • @maxim6088
      @maxim6088 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Not bias... You're just a twat m8, the Abrams m1 was very expensive (and trash compared to the new Abrams varients which most people think of when they hear Abrams), the t80 is cheap, and essentially the best price/quality mbt ever built

    • @Storlans
      @Storlans Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @@maxim6088 underperforming 105mm ammo and overperforming ufp tells you something different...... The m1 does not need new ammo the game just needs to be fixed the 105 should be able to pen the T-72 and the T-64 ingame.

    • @deltacharlieromeo8252
      @deltacharlieromeo8252 Pƙed 3 lety

      But who created War Thunder 😂

  • @grom884
    @grom884 Pƙed 5 lety +54

    2:02 too easy, try not to remove all the ammo.

    • @F_lynx
      @F_lynx Pƙed 5 lety +9

      if it had ammo the lowerplate show would have 1 shotted it

    • @TheAlexn2
      @TheAlexn2 Pƙed 5 lety +13

      @@F_lynx its like in game u have ammo so they compare a tank without ammo vs a M1 loaded full of ammo what is this unfair comparisoin

  • @siem3113
    @siem3113 Pƙed 5 lety +55

    You said the M1 Abrams has an Autoloader, this is incorrect, Russian tanks use them tho

  • @rn-zu5ld
    @rn-zu5ld Pƙed 5 lety +157

    Now do roblox vs Minecraft

    • @henriquepedrazzi9008
      @henriquepedrazzi9008 Pƙed 5 lety +28

      two immortal legends shall not confront eachother, it will only bring armagedom

    • @rn-zu5ld
      @rn-zu5ld Pƙed 5 lety +6

      @@henriquepedrazzi9008 true

    • @mcchickenbaptistchurch.org2
      @mcchickenbaptistchurch.org2 Pƙed 5 lety +12

      Boi this war already happened and it just resulted with bolth games losing more then half they'rr players bruh wdym

    • @rn-zu5ld
      @rn-zu5ld Pƙed 4 lety

      @@mcchickenbaptistchurch.org2 I did it as a joke

  • @Real_Claudy_Focan
    @Real_Claudy_Focan Pƙed 5 lety +18

    1:05 Calling T-72 a heavy tank
    2:00 shooting at an empty T-72 to prove its strength and durabilty
    5:00 Abrams autoloader

    • @bourbon2605
      @bourbon2605 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Suprised they didn't show the weak spot for spot for the abrams

  • @madtatrfart1437
    @madtatrfart1437 Pƙed 5 lety +33

    They called them heavies when they’re classified as mediums in the game

    • @mr.vuchuchel3619
      @mr.vuchuchel3619 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Because they are heavy as heavy tanks but arent heavy tanks

    • @M4A1BestGirl
      @M4A1BestGirl Pƙed 3 lety +3

      I think it's because of the Abrams' speed

  • @Alpakinator
    @Alpakinator Pƙed 5 lety +27

    T72 has been shot with empty ammo racks. With them it woud immediately die when hit in LFP.

  • @NZobservatory
    @NZobservatory Pƙed 4 lety +4

    "We only hit the transmission and the driver." - Bruce Grant
    "Comrade, a word if you please..." - T-72A driver

  • @Henry-uq1hl
    @Henry-uq1hl Pƙed 5 lety +57

    How about T-54 (1951) VS M60?

    • @swt_purged132
      @swt_purged132 Pƙed 5 lety +5

      M60 will win . The M60 is a faster tank. Armour t54 probably win but speed gun and stuff M60

    • @Henry-uq1hl
      @Henry-uq1hl Pƙed 5 lety +1

      @@swt_purged132 Not really.

    • @nekilik4352
      @nekilik4352 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      @@Henry-uq1hl roki vulović?

    • @swt_purged132
      @swt_purged132 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      I was right. I checked it on the stats here are the things T54 is better on (Armour "Highway speed" and weight and hp) ( m60- Speed offroad better pen better reload vetter gun depression ) like said T54 would win on some things but M60 probably win as far as gun and stuff

    • @Henry-uq1hl
      @Henry-uq1hl Pƙed 5 lety +3

      @@swt_purged132 You forgot that T-54 has Shells with HE filler that can easily one shot anything it faces.

  • @kevlarburrito6693
    @kevlarburrito6693 Pƙed 5 lety +74

    Hold up...the Abrams does not have an autoloader....also several hundred burnt up T-72's in the Iraqi desert would beg to differ with these "findings"....

    • @nuckerball1259
      @nuckerball1259 Pƙed 5 lety +19

      This is the pre production abrams. The gulf war abrams were mostly m1a1 and up.

    • @yrkjrk2972
      @yrkjrk2972 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      @@emperorjorge5596 The Republic Guard was a feared armed force until it was dismantled in 3 weeks

    • @maxim6088
      @maxim6088 Pƙed 4 lety +11

      Pls, could you first fact check yourself before you comment? The m1 was not in the Iraqi wars, the t72's there where not even remotely comparable to new Russian T80's, plus the people using them where not as good at using them as the Russians.

    • @kevlarburrito6693
      @kevlarburrito6693 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Maxim ...what are you talking about? The Abrams was in both Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. I can personally attest to it being there during OIF as I served IN Iraq for 3 years.

    • @maxim6088
      @maxim6088 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      @@kevlarburrito6693 I thought that the m1a2 was used in the 2003-2010iraq war

  • @dennysusanto5673
    @dennysusanto5673 Pƙed 5 lety +47

    Mig-19 vs super sabre please

    • @polaskatyu9368
      @polaskatyu9368 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Denny Susanto which mig19, Germany is getting the S variant now )))))

    • @user-il1by9rv2o
      @user-il1by9rv2o Pƙed 5 lety +1

      @@polaskatyu9368 Not any Germany, East Germany )))

    • @polaskatyu9368
      @polaskatyu9368 Pƙed 5 lety

      ЛуĐșĐ° ЖоĐČĐ°ĐœĐŸĐČоћ ))))))

  • @sincereeastman6972
    @sincereeastman6972 Pƙed 5 lety +33

    Leopard 2A4 vs Type 90 next?

    • @Asgar1205
      @Asgar1205 Pƙed 5 lety +13

      type 90 wins, same tank with smaller cross section, better ammo and higher RoF ... oh and it's transmission isn't artificially fucked

    • @sincereeastman6972
      @sincereeastman6972 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      @@Asgar1205 haha yeah, just wanted to see Werhaboos whine in the comment section XD

    • @Asgar1205
      @Asgar1205 Pƙed 5 lety +9

      Not sure why legitimate complaints about a vehicle are whining, but okay

    • @marcelojoelpaolin5683
      @marcelojoelpaolin5683 Pƙed 5 lety +4

      @@Asgar1205 its canadian u expect something good from them ?

    • @AnnatarCarvour
      @AnnatarCarvour Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Better survivability in game in the 2A4 over the 90 all day

  • @x7shadow429
    @x7shadow429 Pƙed 4 lety +5

    5:02 Don’t talk to me or my son again
    T-72 on the right

  • @raizencore
    @raizencore Pƙed 3 lety +17

    The M1 Abrams should be put on 9.7, it's a good MBT but the competition it faces is so much stronger that it's unfair.

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa Pƙed rokem +2

      M1 is 1980 is vs t80 not t72

    • @ronaldthompson4989
      @ronaldthompson4989 Pƙed rokem +3

      Comparing the incoming M1 clone to the T-72AV TURMS is a head scratcher, with the russian prem having better ammo, better sights, better armor, and only slightly worse mobility than the new american prem, but being a LOWER br

  • @oliverhobbs2231
    @oliverhobbs2231 Pƙed 5 lety +26

    Bob simple tank when? .-.

    • @rn-zu5ld
      @rn-zu5ld Pƙed 5 lety +4

      It would be too op and be at BR 900000000000000000.786889

    • @statesecurityserviceoflith4783
      @statesecurityserviceoflith4783 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      @@oliverhobbs2231 you crazy bob could destroy every tank in game one shot it needs to be in 99999999999999999999999.9br even in that br it would be to op

    • @tigersympathiser2265
      @tigersympathiser2265 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      Those machineguns have too much pen, probably couldn't be put in game.

  • @thelegodude2595
    @thelegodude2595 Pƙed 5 lety +4

    So how about trying the weapons test with the M833 round, because the m774 was never actually used. Also the m1a1 variant absolutely destroyed the t72s in the gulf war. And the Abrams has no auto loader. Thanks for making a great game Gaijan!

    • @ronaldthompson4989
      @ronaldthompson4989 Pƙed rokem

      Didnt help those were export variant T-72s without armor inserts or fire control packages, loaded with mild steel training rounds instead of tungsten APFSDS in order to save money

  • @Sebastian-yl7nq
    @Sebastian-yl7nq Pƙed 5 lety +15

    T-72 wins, because you actually earn Silver Lions with it ;)

    • @Henry-uq1hl
      @Henry-uq1hl Pƙed 5 lety

      If you aren't using the 3BM15. You get ~1000 Silver Lions for killing other MBT,and the shell costs 900. Not to mention you aren't always gonna kill everything with one shot. It is easier to earn SL with T-72A than with M1 Abrams,but it's still not a very good money maker.

  • @TNTExplodesLOL
    @TNTExplodesLOL Pƙed 5 lety

    Very nice video as usual!

  • @darthsnader8911
    @darthsnader8911 Pƙed 5 lety +6

    The Abrams repair cost makes it worse than the T-72A

  • @MrAlpal
    @MrAlpal Pƙed 5 lety +6

    1:54 the transmission is in the rear behind the engine, a lower plate shot almost always kills in one shot.
    5:08 already been said, but the Abrams has no autoloader.
    do you guys even play your game?

    • @rn-zu5ld
      @rn-zu5ld Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Read the pinned comment

  • @Shank039
    @Shank039 Pƙed 5 lety +14

    Abrams doesnt have an autoloader.

  • @mikolajkowalski1220
    @mikolajkowalski1220 Pƙed 5 lety +7

    I want you to do a match up with mouse and the IS-7.

  • @slouchygames1923
    @slouchygames1923 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    This should be a rematch at some point

  • @joeblowe3180
    @joeblowe3180 Pƙed 23 dny +8

    Russian bias: The game

  • @OmarSlloum
    @OmarSlloum Pƙed 5 lety +21

    If we had bigger maps the T-72 would be a much better adversary to the Abroomz than it is now. I swear to god every time I play sim battles and get a map like Italy I just want to play another game, but there ISN'T another game I can play that is realistic like War Thunder, so I'm stuck playing these call of duty maps in my modern mbt, which needs to pay 900 sl for each shot just to penetrate the tank it will face the most!

    • @XpunisherX8152
      @XpunisherX8152 Pƙed 5 lety +4

      Seriously. All i want is Italy and Vietnam to be reworked or removed and i really want balanced long range engagements

    • @OmarSlloum
      @OmarSlloum Pƙed 5 lety +4

      @@XpunisherX8152 people should be able to choose which maps they want to play, that's the one thing from CoD that War Thunder SHOULD copy! Also we need maps that allow you to shoot for more than 1.5km. Maybe something like 2.5 to 4 km would make the game much more enjoyable for top tier.

    • @XpunisherX8152
      @XpunisherX8152 Pƙed 5 lety

      @@OmarSlloum im all for the 2nd part of that reply. But if we have a voting system , then ppl will vote for the most favorable map and always leave out the least popular maps. It has to come down to the lesser of two evil maps

    • @omnipotank
      @omnipotank Pƙed 5 lety +1

      If we had bigger maps, the challenger would actually be worth playing and practically invulnerable hull down from range. (If HE nukes were modeled correctly) With the upcoming challenger 2 and more modern MBTs, they better add huge maps.

    • @Szpareq
      @Szpareq Pƙed 5 lety

      Long range engagements are very unlikely. I think the game stops showing tanks after 1km, 2 if another tank in your team is within 1km (I'm not sure though).

  • @drezworthy
    @drezworthy Pƙed 5 lety +1

    When doing penetration comparisons you should do from a variety of ranges instead of just close range. Then you can also talk about optics and trajectories etc.

  • @inimitz6421
    @inimitz6421 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    See, if the fuel line in the T-80 was modeled in, that would level the playing field significantly- especially as it was in the turret ring.

  • @isabelle2670
    @isabelle2670 Pƙed 5 lety +8

    There's not a SINGLE comparisson video in which there's not a russian vehicle

    • @deltacharlieromeo8252
      @deltacharlieromeo8252 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Because Russia is Russia. With every military hardware the West makes, the Russians have a counter. Sometimes even better.

    • @possum456
      @possum456 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@deltacharlieromeo8252 In this scenario the Abrams should of easily defeated the T-72

    • @zeffy._440
      @zeffy._440 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@possum456 not really

  • @wangxrtom
    @wangxrtom Pƙed 5 lety +9

    Still no comparison about the survivability of the tanks when a shell did manage penetrate the armor.
    The Abrams shines in this category as it often takes more than 2 shots to kill it, while the stronk turret ejection system on the T-80 means any shot that penetrates the armor will most likely result in a big boom. Considering this the Abrams is actually on-par with the T-80 or arguably better than the T-80 since it is much more forgiving and gives you a better chance to retreat and reengage at another angle even if you got hit(let's face it lol, no matter how good you are, you are going to get hit anyways)

    • @sexyitalian891
      @sexyitalian891 Pƙed 5 lety

      Might be more forgiving but the T80B on the other hand has an absolute beast of a gun, and good armor. Your talking about a good amount of survivability and a minor increase in mobility, compared to much more firepower and armor on the T80. The T80 is the superior tank imo. It takes me half a second to aim for that gun breach or turret ring and completely disable its ability to fire back. Abrams can't do the same to the T80 as quickly.

    • @s0me1up
      @s0me1up Pƙed 5 lety +1

      i have given up to argue about this aspect of the gameplay long ago.
      it seems only people with above average IQ actually realise the importance of survivability. everyone else keeps ignoring it since it's not even a visible stat.
      M1 is so much more forgiving and allows a player to stay in battle longer, thereby giving more chances to inflict damage and have an impact on the battle.
      it's like the old argument between t-34-76 and pz.4 or t-34-85 and panther. although the t-34s may have a stronger post-penetration effect, the german counterparts can simply outlive them and oneshot the russians in return.
      the current damage model needs to be reworked in total. most vehicles in game survive way too much.

    • @andreypolyakov1593
      @andreypolyakov1593 Pƙed 5 lety

      s0me1up actually survivability is important , but the t80 can cripple the abrams of almost everyone in one good shot ! Survivability is good on a long period , but if you can’t stay alive in 1 on 1 fights , then it’s pretty much useless as you can’t fight back if half of your tank is torn apart in one hit ! One last thing : survivability or not , ATGM’s aren’t merciful

    • @s0me1up
      @s0me1up Pƙed 5 lety

      @@andreypolyakov1593 simple scenario: an enemy sneaks up on you and shoots you in the side. if you are in a t80, you die 99.9% of the time. if you are in an abrams, you lose a crewman and a few modules, pop smoke and drive away into safety.
      nothing that you said discredited my argument. abrams (and all the other non-russian modern MBTs) is simply very forgiving and comfortable to play. in a t80 (t72, t64) you need much more luck and much more skill.
      even if we imagine a fair stand off where both tanks notice each other at the same time, the t80 needs 2-3 accurate hits. this is a waste of time. the abrams needs only 1 center mass hit on a t80.
      the entire high tier rank for the russians is screwed over. they get slower, less comfortable, fragile tanks that require luck and skill. this started with the introduction of MBT-70 vs t-64 and nothing has changed so far.
      btw no need for a discussion, i played the game long enough to make up my mind and nothing you say could change my opinion, because i saw with my own eyes what is happening in the game and the russians are at a severe disadvantage.

  • @orbitalpotato9940
    @orbitalpotato9940 Pƙed 4 lety

    That shell casing ejection animation, i didnt know that existed
    well done Gaijin...

  • @cobalt2361
    @cobalt2361 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    1:54 How do you hit the transmission if it's all the way in the back of the tank, behind the ammo and the engine.

  • @bishop51807
    @bishop51807 Pƙed 5 lety +6

    Still waiting on Gaijin to add the M833 and M900 rounds to the Abrams otherwise I call Russian bias.

    • @GOD719
      @GOD719 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      That would justify the cost. If not. It needs to be dropped lower than the A4 and type 90

  • @mr.abrams9885
    @mr.abrams9885 Pƙed 5 lety +209

    You all know very well that I'm better

  • @crnorizechrabar4879
    @crnorizechrabar4879 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    I cannot wait for the M1A2 Abrams, and certainly for the t-90 and the T-14 Armata, they must be added! I know you will do that Gaijin.

  • @PropperNaughtyGeezer
    @PropperNaughtyGeezer Pƙed 4 lety

    In this game I ve been ever killed by the first hit from nowhere. I never see my enemy as near.

  • @boneless_.
    @boneless_. Pƙed 5 lety +4

    How about this? Panzer III B vs. T-26.

  • @mathiasenevoldsen3583
    @mathiasenevoldsen3583 Pƙed 5 lety +13

    Why arent you using the IPM1?

    • @KICKASSoBASSIST
      @KICKASSoBASSIST Pƙed 5 lety +3

      SuperSovsen because we don’t complain as much as the others do lol. Jokes aside the IP would only add 20mm extra in kinetic protection so it’s a tad irrelevant

    • @mathiasenevoldsen3583
      @mathiasenevoldsen3583 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      @@KICKASSoBASSIST Its something

    • @mathiasenevoldsen3583
      @mathiasenevoldsen3583 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      @@KICKASSoBASSIST Wait what, Theyve made me research and buy anotehr tank, for 20 mm protection? And I thought Rep cost was bad

    • @KICKASSoBASSIST
      @KICKASSoBASSIST Pƙed 5 lety +2

      SuperSovsen chemical protection is 200mm more but yea it doesn’t stack much for kinetic. So yea your grinding out another Abrams for overall minimal benefits

    • @JamesVDBosch
      @JamesVDBosch Pƙed 5 lety +1

      @@KICKASSoBASSIST
      Extra turret armour cuts about 400m fromt he distance at which 3BM-22 can pen it as well as making it entirely DM23 proof.
      No, it's not irrelevant.

  • @legomanyt3524
    @legomanyt3524 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    You should do a updated version like the M1A2 vs T90A

  • @captainconcernedsr.5360
    @captainconcernedsr.5360 Pƙed 5 lety

    My own mobility comparison videos demonstrated the traverse rates to be very much equal despite lacking neutral hull traverse on the T80B

  • @TheRedMartian
    @TheRedMartian Pƙed 5 lety +7

    Lmao. LFP is an instant kill, if you actually put ammo in the turret. And why not also put them against the M1IP??

  • @e500coupe
    @e500coupe Pƙed 5 lety +7

    Give the m833 or m900 and the abrams will rekt those two tank

  • @SuperMiiBrother
    @SuperMiiBrother Pƙed 5 lety +2

    2:14 No! I don't want to get shot at!

  • @MythWarpathIX
    @MythWarpathIX Pƙed 5 lety +3

    The T-72A has the same mobility like my Grandma.

    • @bourbon2605
      @bourbon2605 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      And has the same enough of your grandmas firepower too make you an obese child in under a week

  • @nattly6340
    @nattly6340 Pƙed 5 lety +5

    One interesting comparison could be all the very fast light tanks. Eg.. ru 251 Vs amx 13

  • @mr.z2269
    @mr.z2269 Pƙed 5 lety +6

    Can you make a video on leopard 2a4 vs m1 abrams

  • @Berserker3062
    @Berserker3062 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    I'm glad you admit the 105 equipped M1 and MiP are not worthy of 10.0 BR. A few other US tanks are higher BR than they should be. M60 series for example.

  • @gigi64tpyes
    @gigi64tpyes Pƙed 5 lety +1

    can you fix the Abrams round I'm confused on why the "better" round has less pen? explain thank you

  • @legogenius1667
    @legogenius1667 Pƙed 5 lety +9

    So you literally admit that the T-72 is equal and the T-80 is blatantly better, and you refuse to balance them?? WHY? Why can't you just raise the Abrams to 11.0 or 12.0, buff it to historical standards (DP shells, realistic armor values, and so on) and go from there?

    • @BEAR-lw6mh
      @BEAR-lw6mh Pƙed 5 lety +4

      If the T-80 were blatantly better than the Abrams in the game and the T-72A were equal then the Soviets wouldn’t be having so much trouble winning at top tier

  • @henriquepedrazzi9008
    @henriquepedrazzi9008 Pƙed 5 lety +5

    Or the heavy turtles like the tortoise, t28, jagdtiger, etc

    • @Asgar1205
      @Asgar1205 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/Bf1YWYfD_qk/video.html

  • @versatile_yt4838
    @versatile_yt4838 Pƙed 5 lety +1

    The Abrams may have less Armour but it is survivabillity that matters not Armour.

    • @andreypolyakov1593
      @andreypolyakov1593 Pƙed 5 lety

      Versatile_YT actually , armor is ( for me ) à part of survivability : it’s one thing to get your mega ultra over OP armor pierced by APFSDS and get little to no damage , it’s another to get your paper armor pierced by a simple HE round ! Survivability is good on a long period , but if your tank can’t stand one hit , then you’re pretty much fucked

  • @shuffler1577
    @shuffler1577 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    A T80 can destroy the abrams by sneezing in its general direction yet they’re in the same BR

  • @whoknows475
    @whoknows475 Pƙed 5 lety +13

    Plz do a Flakpanzer gepard vs the otomatic

    • @snonsig2688
      @snonsig2688 Pƙed 5 lety

      Oto wins

    • @polaskatyu9368
      @polaskatyu9368 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      snonsig nein, flakpanzer

    • @ethandearman3965
      @ethandearman3965 Pƙed 5 lety

      Unless the spaas are trying to kill each other the OTOMATIC is better

    • @ethandearman3965
      @ethandearman3965 Pƙed 5 lety

      @blue's hunter I don't think they added the version that had them. Anyway I have both and I have used the Gepard since it came out OTOMATIC with it's MOM shells is much better vs air that the Gepard and better for killing tanks. In a 1v1 of the Gepard and the OTOMATIC the Gepard wins because of the massive breach not that they would every really fight out side of a CB

    • @ethandearman3965
      @ethandearman3965 Pƙed 5 lety

      @blue's hunter if you don't play why are you here? We are talking about in game performance. The OTOMATIC was designed to replace SPAAs like the Gepard and was proven better and longer range. SAMs are irrelevant if anything defeats the point of the Gepard as well.

  • @PAUL-ESNEED
    @PAUL-ESNEED Pƙed 5 lety +6

    WHY IS THE REPAIR COST 15K FOR AN INFERIOR VEHICLE WHILE THE RUSSIAN COUNTERPARTS ARE ALL AT AROUND 3K REEEEEEEEEEEEE

    • @maxim6088
      @maxim6088 Pƙed 4 lety

      It's expensive irl, and in game it is as good or sometimes better then the t80

  • @Glitch_Online
    @Glitch_Online Pƙed 5 lety

    Found this game thanks to streamer named Zarvox, love it. Found this channel just thru CZcams, love it. Please keep these coming. Just getting into Tier 2 tanks and can't wait to go higher.

  • @bullreeves1109
    @bullreeves1109 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    So... the 10.0 Abrams is “Equal” to the 9.7 T-72, and is completely inferior to the 10.0 T-80... why is it 10.0 and cost 3 times more then every other rank again?

  • @Sturmv0gel
    @Sturmv0gel Pƙed 5 lety +4

    Please do a T-62 vs. Leopard A1A1 Attempt no.5 or Leopard 2A4 vs. Abrams or Type 90 or some tank else

  • @MiguelCastro-ow5ho
    @MiguelCastro-ow5ho Pƙed 4 lety +3

    So it's a combative draw. Two minutes later, silver for the Abrams and bronze for the T-72!

  • @NYCSputnik
    @NYCSputnik Pƙed 5 lety +1

    Side shots are much more common that frontal!

  • @fedesilv5235
    @fedesilv5235 Pƙed 5 lety

    When do you restore the number of bushes mod?
    More than one for each type.
    And the most important game modes ???

  • @AnnatarCarvour
    @AnnatarCarvour Pƙed 5 lety +4

    After you nerfed the.m774 shell even more..either way still love the game..but used to be able to one shot the T-80 or 72 with it through the ufp

    • @ronaldthompson4989
      @ronaldthompson4989 Pƙed rokem +1

      Use mean first gen DU used to have the same incendiary party trick as later gens?

    • @AnnatarCarvour
      @AnnatarCarvour Pƙed rokem

      @@ronaldthompson4989 yep
      I don't even play anymore not sure if they shut down my account
      Stopped in 2021 sometime..had top tier in most everything

    • @ronaldthompson4989
      @ronaldthompson4989 Pƙed rokem

      @@AnnatarCarvour oh, you missed out on the M1A2 SEP. America now has the armor and firepower to hang with the Russians

  • @justanander
    @justanander Pƙed 5 lety +17

    I want email changing

  • @Huy-G-Le
    @Huy-G-Le Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

    Consider the Soviet T-70 which is a simplified and slightly upgrade version of the T-62 tanks, which is the counterpart to the M60 American Patton, This is more than what I had expect out of their performance.

  • @TC-yv3ud
    @TC-yv3ud Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Lfp: *exists*
    Damage is far from critical
    Meanwhile the turret: hello im on the moon

  • @zacharyslover9365
    @zacharyslover9365 Pƙed 5 lety +18

    I have an Idea! Abrams vs. Maus!!!

    • @marcbirchen9484
      @marcbirchen9484 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      Divini Fulminis Abrams wil win

    • @swt_purged132
      @swt_purged132 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      Abrams will mop the floor with the Maus

    • @lpflore
      @lpflore Pƙed 5 lety

      I actually once killed an Abrams with my Maus. I also once bounced 20 shots in a 10.0 Game. Those Freeaboos needed a Heli to kill me

    • @swt_purged132
      @swt_purged132 Pƙed 5 lety

      @@lpflore i killed a Abrams in a T34-85 because GaGjin dosent know how to put realistic armour. But the abrams eould come out on top if they know where to shoot

    • @cadewoolley1827
      @cadewoolley1827 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      @@swt_purged132 but the maus is also missing an extra 200mm on the turret and another 100mm covering the hull.

  • @darkfunewolfcoop6768
    @darkfunewolfcoop6768 Pƙed 5 lety +5

    Ok so now there's no more subtitle .... Nicee

  • @nerobu2724
    @nerobu2724 Pƙed 5 lety

    I'll wait for the m1a1 do a video if added.

  • @laxen122
    @laxen122 Pƙed 5 lety +1

    Lower plate is literally a 1hk with ammo ring

  • @marcu_wojac2237
    @marcu_wojac2237 Pƙed 5 lety +15

    Oh yeah, another nice video from my favorite video game

    • @AnnatarCarvour
      @AnnatarCarvour Pƙed 5 lety

      Alot needs fixed, but it's my favorite game as well

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 Pƙed 5 lety +6

    How much do I need to play to get the T-80B for example? With and without premium time, tanks and talismans.

  • @Jorge-dg7jv
    @Jorge-dg7jv Pƙed 5 lety

    Yeah that leo 2K vs amx 40 would be nice to see

  • @bluefoxy6478
    @bluefoxy6478 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    Hey Gijan! I found 2 things that isnt realistic about the Abrams! The spot between the turret and hull is way to big, IRL a shell from any modern mbt wont be able to get in between cause the gap is too small, and you miscalculated it and made it too big, furthermore, you didn't use the more uparmored Abrams which is unfair cause your useing a newer tank, verses the exact same vehicle as last time, also the lower plate of the up armored one even though its the exact same as the old one, its somehow weaker!

  • @baunguyenba8736
    @baunguyenba8736 Pƙed 5 lety +4

    American m4 sherman vs japanese chi he

  • @vincea1830
    @vincea1830 Pƙed 5 lety +10

    Uhm did you forget to mention its game over if at any point there's a side shot on a t80 where there's little chance of survival from a carousel cookoff while the abrams can usually take 2-3 shots from the side and live? Lol this bias runs deep

  • @josephstalin8684
    @josephstalin8684 Pƙed 5 lety

    are there going to be any more model kits?

  • @Trainnerd-qw1vj
    @Trainnerd-qw1vj Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +1

    We need a rematch

  • @dopplerapples7307
    @dopplerapples7307 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +7

    Well as of now its been confirmed a Abrahams tank got destroyed by a t72 in Ukraine.

  • @Nimori
    @Nimori Pƙed 5 lety +13

    Lets seee
    A tank that never has been destroyed in combat VS a tank that has countlessly been destroyed in combat, AGAINST the tank that never got destroyed in combat.
    Brussian Rias

    • @elliottbaker4415
      @elliottbaker4415 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      I don't think you've seen how the Iraqi M1's fair

    • @rayhan_2k841
      @rayhan_2k841 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      M1 abrams have been destroyed in combat. M1a1 and a2

    • @Nimori
      @Nimori Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Challenger2 Black night Link? Source?

    • @Nimori
      @Nimori Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Forever Renamed Abrams has been hit by mines, tow missiles, rpg’s in the engine, and keep rolling.
      I’d like some sources please.

    • @Nimori
      @Nimori Pƙed 5 lety

      Bleagle Not destroyed by combat.
      Notice all the burn marks and melted... everything. An RPG and or AGTM TOW’s can’t do that damage, not at that tempature.
      Clearly a demo. Furthermore paint reveals its not owned by the US military.
      M1 Abrams are for countries other than the US. Spaded immensely.
      M1A1 is for US
      M1A2 is for US
      Again, looks like a demo. Probably tracks got blown off or engine died and they couldnt haul it back due to it being in enemy territory.

  • @yoshiegg95
    @yoshiegg95 Pƙed 5 lety

    I‘d like to see a comparison of every Premium Destroyer

  • @ethapnerry5740
    @ethapnerry5740 Pƙed 3 lety

    Also forgot about the fact the if you take out the transmission in game then the Abrams can’t lower its gun far enough to kill you if you get behind him

  • @mcchickenbaptistchurch.org2
    @mcchickenbaptistchurch.org2 Pƙed 5 lety +6

    Ki 200 vs me 136

    • @tigersympathiser2265
      @tigersympathiser2265 Pƙed 5 lety

      They're the same except the 163* has better fuel capacity by about 2 minutes and two variants which both have better guns.

  • @warfaremessiah2929
    @warfaremessiah2929 Pƙed 5 lety +7

    T-72 has better armour and Firepower?
    Yet the Abrams and their Challenger 1 allies wiped the floor with them in reality

    • @t1e6x12
      @t1e6x12 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      This is the first version of the Abrams they are comparing it to as well as giving this first version outdated rounds. Now in the Gulf War, America was using the M1A1HA with a 120mm gun instead of a 105mm gun, depleted uranium armor, and a much more armored turret.

    • @zeffy._440
      @zeffy._440 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      oh you mean they wiped the floor with the export variants fielded by the inept Iraqi's which also lacked composite armour? what a shocker!

    • @barbarapitenthusiast7103
      @barbarapitenthusiast7103 Pƙed rokem

      The iraqis were using ammunition which became obsolete in the mid 70s and in some cases even training ammo, they were also buried into the ground in static positions and because The US had total air superiority they knew exactly where they were

  • @fearaday_5873
    @fearaday_5873 Pƙed 5 lety

    The original abrams is keeping up pretty well, imagine the m1a1 and m1a2

    • @Dogge444
      @Dogge444 Pƙed 3 lety

      well they are weak aswell. the thing is t90 can penetrate them both. so thats a BIG L in american tanks

  • @fsxlover2maumauthelink5
    @fsxlover2maumauthelink5 Pƙed 5 lety +1

    Abrams was able to go through the UFP before the retarded ammo changes