If your bearing has dirt in it, chances are it's complete junk so you really should make a point out of that. Don't just add grease to a dirty bearing either. If it got dirty in disassembly you should put it in a parts washer or likewise and get all that foreign stuff out before you grease it.
I did use sealed on install. Video was for those who want to service oem bearings. To get full life out of. oem single sealed bearings service should be done every 1000 to 1500 miles.
is it true that you can only use the primary clutch bolt 1 time & it needs to be replaced everytime also brp says the bearings are sealed on both sides 2014 and up do you know if that is true?
Brp says it’s a one use bolt. I personally used mine three times before replacement. As for the 14 up being double sealed. I just replaced bearings in a 15 Maverik at the last roundup and they were still single sealed. Commander and mav both use sane bearings . So guessing 14 and up isn’t true.
@Ace Fire the bearings themselves are not “one way” bearings right? So what actually controls or stops them from spinning in both directions? Personally I run a CVTech TrailBloc on my XMR & know them inside out, but currently helping my cuz with his 2007 800 Max BTW great video & I can’t believe how many geniuses missed you clearly saying the bearings are junk & you’re just re-packing it for video purposes. It’s unfortunate but does help explain why so many how-to videos have the comments turned off :-/
@@wowchad there two cups with springs that hold pressure against the bearing housing. The housing is stepped with a slope. That allows it to only turn in one direction. If you try to turn it the other direction. The cups hit the step side and it stops it from turning .
No you have to use a separator with the puller bolt in the primary. The inner and outer on the turbo clutch has a square wedge fit. If you pull the cover and remove the primary bolt you will see the square inner shaft wedged into square hole in the governor cup. Uatv-tech.com has the separator for a lot less than the factory tool. Oem tool is 350$ thinking Uatv-tech.com is 199.
Preston Miller The grease in the video was Lucus hd green. But that is not what it calls for. I used it just for the video. The bearing I greased were junk. As you can see there is a complete clutch on the machine.
Ace Fire the bearings themselves are not “one way” bearings right? So what actually controls or stops them from spinning in both directions? Personally I run a CVTech TrailBloc on my XMR & know them inside out, but currently helping my cuz with his 2007 800 Max BTW great video & I can’t believe how many geniuses missed you clearly saying the bearings are junk & you’re just re-packing it for video purposes. It’s unfortunate but does help explain why so many how-to videos have the comments turned off :-/
The grease is very expensive. The grease used was cheap grease. In the video I stated the bearings were junk that I was greasing. It's actually a lot cheaper to buy the double sealed skf bearings. You can buy probably 8 skf bearings for the price of one tube of the oem recommended grease.
So just a question. I have a 08 can am renegade 800. Just put a new belt on it. I shifted in high and the bike will roll forwards. Same for reverse and all the others. It will pull at about 3 mph with no throttle. Doesnt idle high at all. Do you think it’s the one way bearing?
Pull the cover off. Start it in park if secondary doesn't stop turning in a matter of seconds then one-way bearing is probably the issue. But also make sure the weights move freely in the primary. Have seen them stick do to the bolts surface rusting.
Definitely one-way or stuck weights. With it off will belt roll backwards freely. And is the belt making contact with the inner and outer of the primary when off?
What are the symptoms of a bad one-way bearing? I've got 1400 miles on my '15 Maverick, just going through and doing some maintenance on my machine and was going to grease the bearings like it says in the owners manual, but that looks like a terrible design and I might just wait until it acts up and switch to those sealed bearings.
i just rebuilt mine last week. the symptoms were hard shifting, sticky shifting, and a squeeling noise coming from the clutch. i bought the re-build kit from amazon, all-balls racing.
@@TheAcefirearms i want to thank you for your video. it helped me. i got the repair done on my outalnder 650 MX in less than 2 hours and it fixed the issue.
Het there. Been all over the forums and no help. What type of primarily & secondary are these. I have the exact set in my 2013 Odes Dominator. All I hear is "Can-Am" style. I want to put a new drive clutch in this thing already!
I looked up your cvt primary and secondary . They look very similar. But with out having them side by side no way to know. There are no manufacturers stamps or name on the can am cvt. So it could be possible they are getting the parts from same manufacturer.
@@TheAcefirearms I knew I was in for trouble as soon as I couldn't find a part number on these things. What a pain. Thanks for the reply man. You know your stuff. Really good channel you got going on.
No but when you say transmission are you referring to the cvt housing? If you are talking about the housing. You can buy a 2" Fernco pipe coupler from lowes or some place equivalent. Replace both one on the front and the rear. They are bad about dry rot cracking then water will get in. Fernco will out last the machine .
@@TheAcefirearms no I mean like where the gears are lol I serviced my machine and when I drained the transmission fluid it was milky. I checked the casing and can’t find anywhere where water could’ve gotten in that’s why I asked about the one way bearing bc now my machine is sometimes hard to shift outa park and such and it now has a whining noise when driving that gets louder the faster you go. I’ve flushed my transmission until the oil came out clean. I’m just lost on what to do next
@@daltonc1992 the one way bearing is in the primary engine end. If you are getting water in the gearbox I would check the vent line. It may have a Crack or hole in it.
So I have a 2021 maverick x3 turbo rr...literally 3 weeks old...when I start to shift, it hits reverse and won’t go further...it will start backing up without even hitting the throttle...I’m thinking it’s this bearing....thoughts?
@@TheAcefirearms I pulled the clutch housing cover and can see the rollers look good...at the bottom of my housing a found a piece of metal that looks like a keeper of some kind...it’s about 1/8 inch or smaller and was probably a circle before it was broken
I personally haven't had the x3 secondary apart yet. I have had the primary apart but don't remember anything that small in the primary that would effect the shift out. You do have rollers and slider pucks in the primary as well. Will see what I can find on the secondary that may have came apart other than the roller.
Ok I have got a couple email notifications recently of question being asked but they aren’t showing up here in CZcams. So if still needing answers email me directly at . Acefirearms@gmail.com thanks
Amel Šahman on the x3 there’s one on each side of the two way bearing. It allows the bearing to free spin stopping the bearing housing from being in direct contact with the inner sheave and outer spring cup.
@@TheAcefirearms Prevedi s jezika: hrvatski I removed the friction washer on the outlander 570 because it was difficult to shift into gears, the gearbox was heavy, the friction washer pressed one way bearing and so the force was transferred to the secondary pulley which made it difficult to change gears from N to H and from N to R, when i threw out the friction washer everything is fine and the gearbox works easily, the outlander 400 and 450 as well as the 1000 has no friction washer, did it do well what did i have any side effects, which is the basic purpose of the friction washer ...
Guess you was missing the point of the video . Those bearing were junk also said that in the video. It was for those that haven't pulled the one-way bearings out or packed a bearing before. So there was no reason to clean them. The new clutch was on the machine that's the old clutch laying there. Sorry I guess there's always that one or two!!
That's a very helpful vid. Thank You.
If your bearing has dirt in it, chances are it's complete junk so you really should make a point out of that.
Don't just add grease to a dirty bearing either. If it got dirty in disassembly you should put it in a parts washer or likewise and get all that foreign stuff out before you grease it.
It definitely is not a challenge to clean grit out of a baron before packing it with new Grease and it makes a world of difference
I did use sealed on install. Video was for those who want to service oem bearings. To get full life out of. oem single sealed bearings service should be done every 1000 to 1500 miles.
You did good that’s a good video
I took my one way bearing out just after I got my bike and added more grease to it because there isn't much grease in them to start with.
do I need to remove the hole primary or can u just remove front have and remove and grease bearing
do I need to pull the back part of primary off,or can u just pull front half of primary and take bearing off the shaft
is it true that you can only use the primary clutch bolt 1 time & it needs to be replaced everytime also brp says the bearings are sealed on both sides 2014 and up do you know if that is true?
What kind of sealed bearings do you use?
sorry bout posting so many times,internet or phone issues,again sorry and thnx for awdome video
Brp says it’s a one use bolt. I personally used mine three times before replacement. As for the 14 up being double sealed. I just replaced bearings in a 15 Maverik at the last roundup and they were still single sealed. Commander and mav both use sane bearings . So guessing 14 and up isn’t true.
@Ace Fire
the bearings themselves are not “one way” bearings right? So what actually controls or stops them from spinning in both directions?
Personally I run a CVTech TrailBloc on my XMR & know them inside out, but currently helping my cuz with his 2007 800 Max
BTW great video & I can’t believe how many geniuses missed you clearly saying the bearings are junk & you’re just re-packing it for video purposes. It’s unfortunate but does help explain why so many how-to videos have the comments turned off :-/
@@wowchad there two cups with springs that hold pressure against the bearing housing. The housing is stepped with a slope. That allows it to only turn in one direction. If you try to turn it the other direction. The cups hit the step side and it stops it from turning .
just a heads up. on Polaris Xp sportsman models the spyder is left hand tread. not sure about others. just a good going to know
Thanks for the heads up.
sorry it posted so Many times,kept saying there was a problem with post and didn't post...thnx man
If the one way bearing is wore out would it cause an extremely high pitched squeal when the bike is decelerating?
will oakes I possibly could but I have never seen or ran one that long. It will make for hard shifting if they need serviced and noisy while shifting.
I have this high pitched sound out of my 570 when decelerating. did you find the cause?
I have 16000 miles on my commander and never grease it ?? Been fine 🙂
I Have a 2016 can am xds turbo does my clutch separate like that with the 2 haves I'm trying replace the spring and weights..
No you have to use a separator with the puller bolt in the primary. The inner and outer on the turbo clutch has a square wedge fit. If you pull the cover and remove the primary bolt you will see the square inner shaft wedged into square hole in the governor cup. Uatv-tech.com has the separator for a lot less than the factory tool. Oem tool is 350$ thinking Uatv-tech.com is 199.
How often you do this? why you not using seals from both sides of the bearings?
1000 to 1500 miles. But the double sealed bearings are fairly cheap. You may just want to buy the bearings and put them in
What type of grease did you use?
Preston Miller The grease in the video was Lucus hd green. But that is not what it calls for. I used it just for the video. The bearing I greased were junk. As you can see there is a complete clutch on the machine.
Ace Fire the bearings themselves are not “one way” bearings right? So what actually controls or stops them from spinning in both directions?
Personally I run a CVTech TrailBloc on my XMR & know them inside out, but currently helping my cuz with his 2007 800 Max
BTW great video & I can’t believe how many geniuses missed you clearly saying the bearings are junk & you’re just re-packing it for video purposes. It’s unfortunate but does help explain why so many how-to videos have the comments turned off :-/
What grease is that ?? I thought that grease is expensive?
The grease is very expensive. The grease used was cheap grease. In the video I stated the bearings were junk that I was greasing. It's actually a lot cheaper to buy the double sealed skf bearings. You can buy probably 8 skf bearings for the price of one tube of the oem recommended grease.
So just a question. I have a 08 can am renegade 800. Just put a new belt on it. I shifted in high and the bike will roll forwards. Same for reverse and all the others. It will pull at about 3 mph with no throttle. Doesnt idle high at all. Do you think it’s the one way bearing?
@ace Fire
@Ace Fire
Pull the cover off. Start it in park if secondary doesn't stop turning in a matter of seconds then one-way bearing is probably the issue. But also make sure the weights move freely in the primary. Have seen them stick do to the bolts surface rusting.
Ok it didn’t stop spinning.
Definitely one-way or stuck weights. With it off will belt roll backwards freely. And is the belt making contact with the inner and outer of the primary when off?
What are the symptoms of a bad one-way bearing? I've got 1400 miles on my '15 Maverick, just going through and doing some maintenance on my machine and was going to grease the bearings like it says in the owners manual, but that looks like a terrible design and I might just wait until it acts up and switch to those sealed bearings.
If you're at 1400 they need serviced or replaced. Hard shifting and grinding are the main symptoms.
i just rebuilt mine last week. the symptoms were hard shifting, sticky shifting, and a squeeling noise coming from the clutch. i bought the re-build kit from amazon, all-balls racing.
@@stefanchomiak1 good luck with the all balls bearings.
@@TheAcefirearms i want to thank you for your video. it helped me. i got the repair done on my outalnder 650 MX in less than 2 hours and it fixed the issue.
@@TheAcefirearms All Balls Racing 25-1716 One Way Clutch Bearing Kit
Het there. Been all over the forums and no help. What type of primarily & secondary are these. I have the exact set in my 2013 Odes Dominator. All I hear is "Can-Am" style. I want to put a new drive clutch in this thing already!
I looked up your cvt primary and secondary . They look very similar. But with out having them side by side no way to know. There are no manufacturers stamps or name on the can am cvt. So it could be possible they are getting the parts from same manufacturer.
@@TheAcefirearms I knew I was in for trouble as soon as I couldn't find a part number on these things. What a pain. Thanks for the reply man. You know your stuff. Really good channel you got going on.
@Kevin Jackson www.sunwaymotorparts.com/products/Yimatzu-ATV-Parts-Clutch-CVT-Driver-Pulley-UTV-Odes-LZ800-800cc.html this was all I could find .
If your servicing the bearings, perhaps clean the dirt out first be for you pack them full of grease.
Anthony Sbarbaro that would be a good place to start.
Will a bad one way bearing allow water in the transmission
No but when you say transmission are you referring to the cvt housing? If you are talking about the housing. You can buy a 2" Fernco pipe coupler from lowes or some place equivalent. Replace both one on the front and the rear. They are bad about dry rot cracking then water will get in. Fernco will out last the machine .
There's also three seals one behind the box at primary and other behind box at secondary . Then the cover seal .
@@TheAcefirearms no I mean like where the gears are lol I serviced my machine and when I drained the transmission fluid it was milky. I checked the casing and can’t find anywhere where water could’ve gotten in that’s why I asked about the one way bearing bc now my machine is sometimes hard to shift outa park and such and it now has a whining noise when driving that gets louder the faster you go. I’ve flushed my transmission until the oil came out clean. I’m just lost on what to do next
@@TheAcefirearms thanks for replying
@@daltonc1992 the one way bearing is in the primary engine end. If you are getting water in the gearbox I would check the vent line. It may have a Crack or hole in it.
So I have a 2021 maverick x3 turbo rr...literally 3 weeks old...when I start to shift, it hits reverse and won’t go further...it will start backing up without even hitting the throttle...I’m thinking it’s this bearing....thoughts?
Check your rollers in the secondary. Sound like you may have blown them up.
@@TheAcefirearms ok I’ll check that first...thank you
@@matthewwrichard9753 shifting is controlled by the secondary. So if not shifting up the secondary is hanging up.
@@TheAcefirearms I pulled the clutch housing cover and can see the rollers look good...at the bottom of my housing a found a piece of metal that looks like a keeper of some kind...it’s about 1/8 inch or smaller and was probably a circle before it was broken
I personally haven't had the x3 secondary apart yet. I have had the primary apart but don't remember anything that small in the primary that would effect the shift out. You do have rollers and slider pucks in the primary as well. Will see what I can find on the secondary that may have came apart other than the roller.
I used the bearings from Uatv-tech. Don't know what brand they were.
Ok I have got a couple email notifications recently of question being asked but they aren’t showing up here in CZcams. So if still needing answers email me directly at . Acefirearms@gmail.com thanks
Where Friction washer
Amel Šahman never seen any friction washers on commander or Maverik. Only on the x3.
@@TheAcefirearms for what friction washer serves
Amel Šahman on the x3 there’s one on each side of the two way bearing. It allows the bearing to free spin stopping the bearing housing from being in direct contact with the inner sheave and outer spring cup.
@@TheAcefirearms Prevedi s jezika: hrvatski
I removed the friction washer on the outlander 570 because it was difficult to shift into gears, the gearbox was heavy, the friction washer pressed one way bearing and so the force was transferred to the secondary pulley which made it difficult to change gears from N to H and from N to R, when i threw out the friction washer everything is fine and the gearbox works easily, the outlander 400 and 450 as well as the 1000 has no friction washer, did it do well what did i have any side effects, which is the basic purpose of the friction washer ...
Amel Šahman should be fine being you have a oneway not the two way .
I stoped watching thos after he started repacking a beating with dirt in it lmao, no break clean not even gonna atleast clean it out man?
Guess you was missing the point of the video . Those bearing were junk also said that in the video. It was for those that haven't pulled the one-way bearings out or packed a bearing before. So there was no reason to clean them. The new clutch was on the machine that's the old clutch laying there. Sorry I guess there's always that one or two!!
@@TheAcefirearms yeah sorry I finished watching the video then seen that, at first I was cringing lol my bad good video
@@GregoryJohnston77 it's all good was wondering how you missed me saying they were junk in the video. Now we know.
do I need to remove the hole primary or can u just remove front have and remove and grease bearing
sorry bout posting so many times,internet or phone issues,again sorry and thnx for awdome video
do I need to pull the back part of primary off,or can u just pull front half of primary and take bearing off the shaft
Just the outer for one way service.