ENLISTED MOSCOW TANK GUIDE | How To Kill Each Moscow Tank In Enlisted
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Another video! This time we're using War Thunder's X-Ray feature to find out where to shoot each Moscow Tank to get easy detonations with AT Rifles or our own tanks!
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00:00 Intro
00:30 PZ 2
01:30 PZ 3 B
02:50 PZ 3 E
04:00 PZ 4 E
05:45 Pz.38(t) F
07:05 T60
09:55 T-26
11:40 BT-7
13:00 T-28
15:07 BA-11
16:20 Outro/Final Thoughts - Hry
Using War Thunder to win at Enlisted
Oh yeah, this is big brain time
in warthunder u can kil puma with 0,50 cal but in enlisted puma can take m3/m5 stuart ap shell to side of turret and be fine so its dumb XD
or in WT pz2 20mm is superior to t60 20mm but in enlisted its something weird
@@hubertgizinski7962 the shrapnel has been nerfed immensely.
@@bericv4219 in enlisted even 75mm HE shells in sherman have problem to kill light stuff like puma.sometimes u hit wheel and puma goes boom but most of time puma wont ecplode from HE
@@hubertgizinski7962 are the HE shells for the engineer’s 57mm at gun different? Because I can pretty easily one shot pumas with them
@@chickenintrousers6723 1 time it took 3 ap shots from enginer at gun to kill 1 enemy soldier
i would say damage is so random
Quadro is goat of Enlisted.
goat.
In Enlisted shrapnel damage is almost nonexistent, its like APCR.
False there is no shrapnel lmao
@@jPlanerv2 idk german tanks in normandy seem to do alot more damage ... pz4s always 1 shot my sherman or 2 shot me meanwhile i can barely even pen them.
@@21babydew that's aphe not shrapnel tho
its even worse
37mm ap shell its like 0,50 call
@@21babydew don’t show them your side armor your frontal armor is strong and your side’s are weak
Please have in mind:
The damage models in Enlisted are not the same like in War Thunder. So there will be a difference in how the ammo works in Enlisted. But to see where the spots are in the tanks you can use the x-ray of War Thunder :)
Just wanted to say this to avoid players maybe being confused.
Btw.: Great content! Keep up the good work :)
All the best!
Yeah i shouldn't have used the penetration thing in War Thunder, I was just messing around lol. The X-Rays are the important part of the video!
@@HeyQuadro 👍👍👍
You are growing at beast speed, 1 week ago i found your channel, it wal like 5000 subs, and you have 6.63+ Subs, great work man!!
mmmmm I play War Thunder for a long time and I can tell that Enlisted tank damage is not well done, most times side shots do nothing (even at point blank) , same happens to other weak points. Also fuel fire should be harder to set on Russian tanks than German or USA tanks as they use diesel and not gas ( this is modeled in WT too ). Shrapnel or spalling damage doesn't seem to exist on enlisted tanks
yeah i agree i dont really know how they fucked it up that bad
The tank models in Enlisted aren't final and are still being worked on
@@TheDAWinz i fucking hope so cause at the moment they are scuffedv although i dont really know why they are having these problems as im pretty sure they just ported the tanks and damage calculator strait from war thunder
@@TheDAWinz I hope that too !
I never knew that soviet tanks used diesel instead of gas. Every day you learn something new.👍🏻
Yo dawg we heard you like War Thunder so we put some War Thunder inside your Enlisted.
Seriously though I wish they provided some of this info in Enlisted menus rather than having to go launch a separtate game to find out where to pen the damned T-60.
FYI the BA-11 things are tracks, as it was designed to be able to convert to a half-track mode for difficult terrain.
the viewport is actually a weak spot as well despite it not showing up as one. i typically put one in the turret first because its easier to hit and then the view port for the kill.
>play War Thunder
>try this strategy against a Tiger I
>cry
God thank you so much I've been looking everywhere for something like this
Those t60s ... i just unlocked the second panzer 3 and now i laugh at them when they emty their whole shells at my 30mm of armor
(added): im wondering if the T60 is ""Bugged" , i have a lot of war thunder on my back and i know that if i shoot an angled part it will bounce but sometimes i hit it flat on and nothing happens, its too much, the BT and T26 are far more fare to figth against but the T60 its too ridiculos. i guess that they made it a bit strong to compence the just 2 crew members but i think its toomuch, also i got blow up by infantry for beeng stand still shoting 5 6 7 10 rounds to those T60s and they just bounce all the shells, its fun making stalinium memes but i think its too much for the fareness of the panzer 2 and the first panzer 3
until ivan runs up with a explosive pack or start picking of crew with the AT rifle
I come from WT and there the PZ2 is a monster and can kill all the Soviet tanks from almost every angle. In enlisted the T-60 is a pain in the neck
@@alvarohernani6645 Thats because Enlisted didn't give the Pz2 the AP40, APCR (tungsten cored) ammo.
@@NickDurso80 The beloved munitions! Would love them in Enlisted, otherwise PZII is feels kinda useless against other tanks :P
Great video as always 👍
Sick video man!
Thanks, been looking for this one...
This video is great, I've been struggling with the AT rifle... I'll still struggle but now I have the means to improve at least :D
i was looking for this
Nice video! Maybe you could make one with the ones ppl struggle with, so how to pen a T-28 with a pz 2c, etc. Maybe to help the new player and their experience. Or like the T-60 vs the PZ 2C. You need to use AP and shoot the turret around the mantlet. If you use the war thunder reference, just use the correct ammo and compare armor values, and then maybe take it into test matches in Enlisted to confirm it. Pretty sure there are custom matches with every available everything.
People are stuck with the PZ 2C/T-60 for a long time, and not wanting to commit to a premium yet and just get spanked on by a premium tank and think it is P2W and walk.
Also maybe an opportunity there like where you showed the new player experience and how you could do really good with the starter weapons, and show you owning people with much better weapons, because it is more about making the right decisions.
I was wondering when you'd do a vid like this cool to see and Its very handy having war thunder as testing tool also on the BA-11 its additional armour in the form of spare or broken tank tracks I'm sure the feature will come as an upgrade eveuallty to Enlisted as it did in War Thunder speaking of catch ya tomoz
Great helpful video! I think a good thing you could use as stand in to represent the AT rifle is an SPAA truck gun. The early Russian trucks uses 12.7 and 14.5 heavy machine gun so it should be similar. The American ones are 50 cal. Idk what the penetration is of the AT rifle in enlisted though
The closes round for protection analysis would be from *USSR* GAZ-AAA DShK with *AP* shell. It uses 12.7x108 mm rounds. Which is smaller than one used on PTRD-41 but larger than on PzB 38.
But if you check how it penetrates it mostly matches with the game. I think they've increased penetration power on PzB 38 as you can pen turret at viewports from close range.
Good one! T-60 armor was buffed between closed and open beta, and it's almost unkillable with AT rifles tho ;/
gotta get on top of it, right? ;P
@@HeyQuadro gotta earn that medal for courage ;D
The lord delivers!
hey quadro, can you do the same with normandy tanks pls?
The color of the armor in the viewer scales to the relative maximum on the tank. So the sides are red because its 15mm all around
I can shoot the front plate of armor on the right side of the Pz.II C and it will almost always blow up, it works with an AT Rifle and a tank cannon
Hey, you gotta make sure ur using the right ammo when using the armor penetrator in WT. idk what belt the pzii uses but i assume its the 64 pen belt, you were using the stock belt which is garbage in wt
Good video :) would help to have one for Normandy as well
will do :)
Which is the best tank for soviets? Im at level 11 of campaign, wonder if i should upgrade the 2nd tank i got or the third one, cant remember the names
the tank showing parts in red-yellow-green (whatever color) that means that it's the thickest part of the tank, so if the side armor appears as yellow, while the turret appears red, that means that the turret is thicker than the side armor without looking at the milimeter values.
The BT-7's thickest armor is in the sides, so it appears red, but that "thick" armor is only 15 mms, meaning that anything that isn't red is thinner than that.
Check it out :)
naenae OUT
Mr. Quadro, the same weak spots apply if you are using the dinamite pack?
yes, but honestly all you need to do with dynamite is get it close
if we only got some campaign with big maps like battle of kursk and tank warfare in mind would be so cool
Huh, whenever I play with the T-60, it feels like I'm always getting screwed over when against Pz.II
Can someone please animate this in the style of one of those old ww2 training cartoons you can sometimes find on youtube?
Please do a Normandy version!!
Nice thx! Can u do the same for normandy plz?
Waiting for Normandy one :)
Thx, very usefull, for me anti tank gun user :)
Sorry Quadro to be bringer of bad news, but Enlisted and War Thunder tanks arent the same thing, enlisted is in new Dagor engine and they had to do tank models from ground up. You can see it your self when shooting in Enlisted the insides arent the same. Surely it could help if they would have copy pasted models, but they seemed not to been able to do that. Liked your Enlisted contect, hope they manage to do models as good as in War Thunder👍🏻
yeah but they probably copied pretty closely where ammo is stored and where crew sits etc. so same difference
The interiors are ripped straight from WT, though the damage, penetration, armor, etc are definitely different. This isn't really a penetration guide, just showing the X-Rays for people who don't know where the important components are at.
My problem is not that I dont know how to kill the tanks, its that the shells have little to no explosive filler so It feels like I have to just kill crew lol
Yeah spalling and and fragments from APHE in enlisted feels a lot weaker than in War Thunder. Though in War Thunder a tank is considered destroyed if only one crewman survives so that might also be a source of some discrepancy.
@@LordDarthHarry If they increase the explosive filler on the shells 45mm+ it would be fine.
@@LordDarthHarry ye but in arcade mode in warthunder if u have 1 crew member and researched crew replacement it will automaticaly try to add 1 crew member instead of kiling u
but tbh damage model in enlisted is terrible
puma could be easly killed with 37mm ap but in enlisted its super armored XD
T60 is problem, i shot both commander and driver place but nothing happen, and my tank (PZ III B) explode just by 1 shot by T60 just because stupid midle ammo
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I think identifying components using WT is a great idea, however, do you feel that the AP weapons in Enlisted are performing as consistently as they do in WT. It feels blunted compared to WT.
No they are not. You die much much faster in WT. Everything other than components is different.
Man last night i shot a Puma's ammorack 3 times before he reacted to my Stuart, he just turned his turret and 1 shot me with only orange ammo.
Also could you do a grenade guide? What each are used for (molotovs seem completely useless since they don't block off an area, smokes seem to blow in 1 direction), how to throw them (i've aimed at the floor 5 meters in front of me and overshot by at least 30 meters, also throwing through windows)
Molotov's are actually quite good against tanks. They won't destroy them, but they will make the tank blind for pretty long time. Smokes i haven't used that much, but they are good for cover if used correctly.
Molotovs are extremely bad
@@Igzilee You just don't know how to use them😉
I guess now I need to actually learn which tanks are which xD
I prefer to aim
1. geering/idler wheel (2 large upper wheel in german tank)
2. turret ring between turret and body
it will certainly neutralize enemy tank
t-60 is great in war thunder, when u have the good ammo belts unlocked.
I just realized that this vid came out before the terror that is the T-50 hadn't been added yet... possible update?
uhh probably not since the X-Ray feature is now in game. Doesn't matter with the T-50 anyway, only place to pen it is in the turret
@@HeyQuadro Fair. Those things are just scary when you're in anything less than a Pz4. I'm starting to understand why the T34 was so feared on the eastern front...
If you play Enlisted and don't want to install War Thunder...
Well that's fine, just keep in mind you could get better at tank to tank combat and try to get better at teamwork
Yes
You sometimes get to have good teammates in War Thunder
Edit: shoot the commander's cupola with HEAT on the Panzers, especially on the III if you have a good gun
Also aim for the turret rings, there are small gaps that will let many shots through and cripple tanks
Aim for the engines, get the tracks down, flank and hit where it hurts, or just distract enemies that are too armoured, get their tracks down for long enough and let the bombers or the radio do the job
There are many ways to destroy a tank, just good luck when you find a foe that has enough situational awareness to overpower you and friendly tanks and pull a Raseiniai on you
Edit 2: 15:47
Tracks, good armor
Apparently the shrapnel is non-existent so forget the HEAT on the cupola
isnt there a t34 in enlisted?
i would give my soul for a stalingrad campaign with t-34-76 and kv-1
this has been datamined so
where is kv2 at batle of moscow campaign?
@@hubertgizinski7962 I might be wrong, but I don't think there were any KV-2's at Moscow. They were all defending the baltics/Leningrad. Either way, germany doesn't have anything they can use against it lol
@@dicecorporation 15cm SiG?
But the damage model is kind of different isnt it. I thought its gonna be WT and it shares some features but its just different.
As far as I can tell they only nerfed the post pen effects immensely.
enlisted damage model for tanks in garbage compared to WT
u can throw 1 kilo of tnt under puma and sometimes it explodes and somettime it only damage wheel
or puma can bounce 37mm cannon from 50 meters when shot in side of turret
like realy wtf
@@bericv4219 Iam not sure about that iam pretty sure that engine damage is also weird, i never get to achieve engine damage, and track damage is also weird its much harder than WT its just different and i feel it, its missing that nice effects from WT.
@@hubertgizinski7962 Its actually tricky. U have to hold that tnt all the way until he throws it itself then its sure kill, dont know why it works that way maybe it has something to to with fuse or maybe they just wanted the enemy units to have more time to kill you but it works. Try it.
@@Morderon7 it works on puma but pz3 or 4 seems invicible
1 time i landed tnt pack right on it and i didnt do any damage and when i throw it under pz4 it can destroy only 1 track or nothing lol
as a warthunder player i can 1 shot every 1 of these with at rifle :)
Oh, so you are supposed to shot these things? I always yeet my grenade, miss entirely, and proceed to ingore them for the rest of the match.
People who still haven't played should really try war thunder
First
what about t-50, now thats its unbalanced
Ngl the t 60 in war thunder hot garbage because it has a fully automatic 20mm canon and a suicide interior and your facing like real tanks, but in enlisted there's infantry and a fully automatic 20mm canon that fired like a mg-42 or sm thats the closest to the a-10 brrrt I have seen ww2 vehicles get so you shred infantry with your canon and mg
You don't use it the right way, first of all, the shells type matter a lot. Second the default distance is 500m , a 20mm round will loose most of its energy from that far. This is quite misleading actually
although he does mess up with the 500m every where it said it couldnt pen at 500m still wouldnt pen at 0 ive checked most of those spots and with shell type in enlisted there are only 2 types per tank if im not mistaken so this video still does fine especially with the discreptions of the weak spots
@@smurfatron1515 not being able to pierce a pz IV E with a t-60 from the side point blanck ? Nah
@@smurfatron1515 More precisely, you can pen the turret sides, and the extremities of the hull. It has 27 mm of pen. I should add that they probably changed the model because the panzer II got 45 mm front plates and you can easely go through it with the t-60 in enlisted.
I probably shouldn't have used the protection analysis as it wasnt really the purpose of the video. The point of the video is more just for people to see the X-Rays to know where they should be targeting.
@@isni1946 yeah good point
Lol this does not matter in enlisted tank and plane combat is broken in enlisted you need to shoot a plane a million times to kill it also ammo racking does not really work and spawling is not really existing. Many many flaws (got 900 kills with tanks and 800 with planes in enlisted) and 3500 hours in war thunder.
What’s with ur voice
killing tanks in War Thunder is a lot easier than in Enlisted, every round feels like APCR, this video is not helpful at all, i know because im playing wt since 2013
after plaing WT 3 years i cant do shit to tanks in enlisted
even wwhen croshair is green(like how much armor has puma in enlisted if it can bounce 37mm from stuart when in WT u can kill it with 0,50 call)
Idea kinda stolen from Reddit, maybe at least mention oMrEnigma who posted the thread.
quadro first used the warthunder x-ray mechanic for enlisted on march 21 about a month before that post and considiring they both took pictures of the puma and that the video has 50k views its more plausable that omrenigma stole from quadro not the other way around
the video was his guide to tanks in enlisted
Uh I havent seen any post about this at all. I also specifically mentioned using War Thunder's X-Ray as a tool for Enlisted nearly 2 months ago in my Tank Guide, and this is just a follow up to that since many people dont want to install WT just for that.
@@HeyQuadro ok, my bad then. This looked like strong inspiration so sorry for being suspicious.