Melodicer vs. Black Sequencer - one or both?

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  • čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
  • I haven't spent much time with the Erica Synths Black Sequencer, and I noticed in a thread the other day somebody mentioning it serving as a substitute for the Vermona Melodicer.
    Say what? I have a Melodicer, and it's the cat's meow. Can it really be supplanted by the Erica Synths offering?
    They're big modules, so it's worth asking the question. Which is what you have here...me asking the question of whether I keep both or just one.
    Source VCO is an Acid Rain Chainsaw. No envelope, just the output gates from the sequencer’s going to a Bard tube LPG.
    00:00 Intro
    00:20 Vermona
    02:21 Black Sequencer
    10:29 Tiebreaker
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Komentáře • 19

  • @electrosonicnebula
    @electrosonicnebula Před 6 měsíci +2

    Very interesting. It would be cool to put these up against what the humble keystep pro can do in terms of randomization. Also interested to see how midicake ARP and NDLR compare

  • @muratti1277
    @muratti1277 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I need more than one sequencer, I don't even know how many I have right now😂.
    I most often use the 0-ctrl from make noise in combination with the black sequencer from Erica synths.
    Each sequencer has its advantages and is more suitable for certain applications than others.
    You can see that very well in this video. Thanks for the great video 👍

  • @decapitateallcops3214
    @decapitateallcops3214 Před rokem +1

    If you died , how would your fans know?

    • @JohnSchussler
      @JohnSchussler  Před rokem +2

      Umm, should I start having my food tasted for me?

    • @decapitateallcops3214
      @decapitateallcops3214 Před rokem

      @@JohnSchussler anyone could be behind those black gloves at this point

    • @JohnSchussler
      @JohnSchussler  Před rokem +2

      @@decapitateallcops3214 I am legion.

    • @Tofu_Pilot
      @Tofu_Pilot Před rokem +2

      The cat that bumped into the audio interface and killed the audio would start to post on the channel, duh.

  • @phpn99
    @phpn99 Před rokem +3

    The Melodicer isn't a sequencer. It's a probabilistic ("stochastic") pattern generator, with timing control similar to an Euclidian pattern generator. And neither is the Black. A sequencer would provide the user with direct (i.e. knob/slider) control over each step's pitch, duration, and other attributes such as accent, mute, slew rate, ratchet, etc.
    All of these gadgets are more in-line with West Coast ideas, and what Tip Top has done with its various pattern generators.
    The reality is that few of the patterns generated are actually musically interesting, because typical musical phrases are usually following a 1/f distribution in pitch and timing ; which these devices do not do directly.

    • @Kaleil
      @Kaleil Před rokem +7

      It seems more like you have a certain definition of a sequencer, but in reality sequencers are sequencers if they can do things in sequence. Why they would need to have dedicated control of each step's pitch and duration, etc, I don't know. CV sequencers are sequencers. Trigger sequencers are sequencers.

    • @nin114
      @nin114 Před rokem +13

      You may want to start using the phrase "In my opinion".

    • @GeorgeLocke
      @GeorgeLocke Před rokem

      Your narrow definition is wrong and my broad definition is maybe something worth considering?

    • @GeorgeLocke
      @GeorgeLocke Před rokem +1

      I'd never heard that musical phrases follow a 1/f law - can you recommend some sources to read up on that?

    • @electrosonicnebula
      @electrosonicnebula Před 6 měsíci

      Hell I don't know much but if you put one or more notes after another, isn't that a sequence that can be repeated? Isn't a pattern generator what's usually known as a sequencer?

  • @casadelamusicadekarlsanmar3366
    @casadelamusicadekarlsanmar3366 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Melodicer. ☑

  • @Tofu_Pilot
    @Tofu_Pilot Před rokem +4

    A menu, SD card, and Latvia make Erica an absolute no-go. Melodicer is a beast.

    • @McEnroe911
      @McEnroe911 Před rokem +10

      What’s wrong with latvia

    • @aljen9611
      @aljen9611 Před 9 měsíci

      Former GDR heritage makes Vermona an absolute no-go.
      Of course, this is absurd, but just as absurd as the postneuroleptic stuff "Jonathan" wrote here.

    • @AlexanderCook87
      @AlexanderCook87 Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah haha, if there is one like I love its petty grievances about small countries... @@McEnroe911