Trump immunity appeal: LIVE AUDIO from court hearing
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- čas přidán 8. 01. 2024
- Donald Trump returned on Tuesday to the federal courthouse in Washington D.C. as an appeals court hears arguments on whether the former president is immune from prosecution on charges that he plotted to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
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get that guy some water
Fatty just got utterly humiliated.
LOL, the guy who has been preaching about the Biden family and a two tier system of justice for this country is literally saying the president should have his own tier and saying there should be a two tier system. Oh sweet jesus this guy....
Trump 2024!
Separation of powers
Officials acts WHILE president includes FREE AND FAIR elections
@greglander5227😂 Republicans are arguing that Biden is illegally prosecuting Trump while their only defense of Trump is that the President is allowed to do whatever he wants....
Can it get any dumber? 🤦
@hakancarlsson2881 Right, it boggles the mind.
If you're not guilty of a crime, why is immunity pertinent or a subject in this instance? Quid pro quo in the phone calls with the president of Ukraine and Georgia secretary of state are inculpatorily relevant to set the record straight.
Hey Foxm where's the rest of the audio? It wasn't over yet.
Is the sound quality that bad or is RFK the defending attorney?
I was wondering the same, I thought it was RFK too..
Sound quality is just that bad. Kennedys voice is a meth mess.
Trump attorney's growley voice sounds like AI gone haywire.
Get Trump some pallets of tomatoes to start his Polack artwork on his wall!
I think this is the place where that over-botoxed Gargoyle screams....'' THE BEST IS YET TO COMMMMMMMMMMME! ''..........BOTTA BOOM , BOTTA BING !
This gies to SCOTUS where they can understand the importance of separation od powers
Trump: “Will someone please rid me of this meddling priest! Um, no, I meant ‘appellate judges.’” 😂
You disagree with a judge. You know why your a lawyer and she is a judge ?
2 hours of oral arguments "for" and "against", suggests that the channel for argument is very narrow!
Worst thing in the world is to be before the court and not answer their questions. Mr. or Mrs. Whiskey Tenor is not doing well. If the President was impeached and convicted He/She would be arguing double jeopardy. Totally a losing proposition.
those were my thoughts. double jeopardy if he wasn't convicted then wouldn't it be double jeopardy if he was?
Sauer giving the typical “Trump” style word salad argument 😮…what a joke…
Well, if you ''did NOTHING wrong'' why in the FK do you need ''IMMUNITY'' ?....I'll wait....
Civil liberties Rights Act And Constitutional Rights Amendment Act Can Be Used Against Anyone Under And The Law’s Of Our Country
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Never TRUST anyone that turns off COMMENTS.
So the argument is you can kill people you are immune, but if you ask questions and try to investigate something than you can be prosecuted.
😂 What? No....
😂 Republicans are arguing that Biden is illegally prosecuting Trump while their only defense of Trump is that the President is allowed to do whatever he wants...
Can it get any dumber? 🤦
No, that's not the argument
Let’s take your Argument and we encase in a box called “President shoots a person” the constitution kicks in AND IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, PRESIDENT GETS IMPEACHED CONVICTED BY 2/3 SENATE to remove appearing partisan THEN GUESS WHAT HAPPENS CONSTITUTION SAYS THE PRESIDENT CAN NOW BE SUBJECTED TO CRIMINAL PROSECUTION for shooting And if person is killed THERE YOU GO PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY SHIELD HAS BEEN REMOVED!
No. That's the Fox News (I know, you "don't watch Fox" anymore) talking points about what's happening.
Trump's attorney is getting hammered by this judge. LOL! His argument is tautological and totally has him cornered.
It's D.C.
@@imuayachtcharter7940 the president isn't immune from prosecution no matter where it is.
You're brain exist in another universe! Russia Russia Russia have ruined your brain! indoctrination!
Don’t know who’s arguing what here.
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Trump is arguing that Presidents have absolute immunity (can break laws without consequence), while Biden is President. It's a bold move cotton, let's see how it plays out.
Does Anybody Know ?
Somebody get the first guy a lozenge…
He has same health issue as RFK Jr. Grow up
@@imuayachtcharter7940 Can’t both be true? Can he have a health issue and a sore throat?
Oh Wow Speculation
I would have picked someone a bit more suave to make my argument, and I would have had a better argument than the worn out rug they keep beating the dust off.
Trump's lawyer is trying to run the court in circles. Fortunately this judge seems to smart for that bullshit.
He's just tell the Truth
Well if she’s running around chasing him in circles then she’s not that smart. Especially since she’s speaking from emotional responses and he’s citing case law and statutes. She’s not even addressing them.
Nah She's doing more like making him look like a fool you meant to say @perrito261
Too*
@@gregspotford2638 BS
Re shuffle the deck and get a new deal.
If you are innocent you don’t need immunity!
Similarly, you only use the 5th amendment if you have something to hide.
Who's his attorney ? Rfk? Why would you need immunity from anything if you're innocent?
That's not the point! Your position is total propaganda! Did Trump murder somebody? NO! He was involved in an official act!
@@clari-net6133 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Because the democrats like Pelosi schiff and the rest involved won't leave him alone and let it be up to the AMERICAN PEOPLE period
@@dianabias3024 but the American people don't want Trump menstrual cycle
@@dianabias3024But he's arguing that President Biden can do what he wants.... 🤷
Like skip the election....
Surprised you want that....
Today Federal appeals court rules Trump DOES NOT have immunity from prosecution. Another lost for Trump!!
I see this as blessings. You guys wouldn't exist before 5th.
Oh God this guy's voice is irritable and hopefully Trump doesn't have to listen to his voice
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"There is a quote in the Congressional record, in which your client said, through counsel, no former officeholder is immune from investigation and prosecution." Judge Florence Y. Pan Bye bye to the "executive privilege immunity" argument. Trump will lose again.
Again? please tell me the first.
@@iamlrrrruleroftheplanetomi1799 I think you need some glasses, maybe lasik
@@iamlrrrruleroftheplanetomi1799 The only thing he has won in the last ten years is the electoral college vote in 2017.
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maybe you missed the assault case. Or the one in New York where he is already guilty just to see at what cost. Maybe the case where he lost and can’t have charities in New York. Maybe………
Hunter should start sending his dad the money now, it’s covered absolutely
According to what trump wants to do, you are correct.
So Trump should just stop calling for action against Biden? 🤔
Yes, Biden has immunity
14th Amendment section 3 is clear.
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YOU MEAN THE democrats don't reward 😉 🙄 🤔
Lets just be honest here....Trump is being persecuted because he's running for election.
Let's be honest here... Trump's ONLY defense is that Biden is allowed to do that.... 🤦
@@hakancarlsson2881No that would be where you are wrong. If you are going to set a presidence be sure the crimes YOU commit are not far worse. What is being done will backfire badly.. This administration of Bidens are full of criminals.. Bypassing laws so you dont have accountability and only hold that agaisnt your opponents is criminal...
Trump was being persecuted before he ever ran for president because they were out to get him, then he was persecuted as president, then they stole the election, then they persecute and election interference, then nobody wanted Trump brand bottled water, then nobody would try the new Trump cologn called "Dirty Cash" , when are they gonna give him a break!
this guys voice is annoying me
No One Is Above The Law
But We Do Have Civil Liberties Rights To Protect Our Citizens And Constitutional Liberties Rights Act
This is old. Not worth my time.
Trump can do what he wills within the boundary of the circle of presidential acts. Who decides that boundary? Much discretion is given to decide among the parties involved. But most decisions and acts by the President fall within the hoop, more than one might think, and the other acts do not extend beyond the perimeter of the circle. Why is it so difficult for the courts to understand this? They are so dumb. The president must be given as much power and latitude as needed for his official acts, otherwise he would always second guess himself, freezing up the country, wasting precious time and resources and productivity, and so what is permitted in the circle and what is outside the circle of acts for the most part at the President's discretion. This is what makes a president. No other person has his power in a country between the courts, legislature and executive. Republicans tend to give more latitude as a capitalist society, and Democrats stifle progress taking after Hitler, Mao, Stalin. Nancy Pelosi, Mike Pence, Christopher Wray, and Merrick Garland, communists, and socialists and Marxists.
Yes, they are dumb and you are smart. But by your comment(s) you are missing the entire argument. The defense is trying to assert that the president can commit criminal acts and that unless he is first impeached and convicted by Congress DOJ cannot do anything. To defend that they are using civil cases precedence. This is a first, because before Trump no president has attempted to stop the transition of power after losing an election ( criminal act). So you seem lost....a "president discretion" is checked by the other branches that is how our Constitution is set up.
"The president must be given as much power and latitude as needed for his official acts, otherwise he would always second guess himself, freezing up the country, wasting precious time and resources and productivity"...lol. Stopping the transfer of power is NOT an official presidential duty, calling/threatening/pressuring states to illegally change their vote results is not within the duties of a President. Let me remind you this case is about the attempt to stop the transfer of power and this appeal claiming "immunity" is just to slow the legal process. I am willing to bet that the defense will request this panel to re-hear the case again, and after that request the entire panel of judges (10 I believe ) to hear it again. After that the SCOTUS. The arguments by his lawyer are moronic based on how our system is setup and it is obvious by the Judges questions that they were not buying the BS. But for people that chanted on command "Mexico will pay for the wall" they think it rises up to something beyond taking the courts time. On other matters....Capitalism is an economic system not a constitutional or political/governance one and has zero to do with this appeal or the case at all. You are clueless based on your rant/word salad. I can see the appeal been denied because the way the Constitution is setup no one is above the law as a principle and this process will set the precedence in case we experience another criminal president.
The impeachment that failed was a criminal charge so double jeopardy applies of course as does the subsequent indictment which was illegal. But even then immunity is absolute, meaning within the sphere of the hoola hoop acts permitted.
One more time slow one IMPEACHMENT is a political process, is not civil, is not criminal. Congress doesn't prosecute or convict anything criminal or civil. Congress legislates (creates laws) DOJ enforces the laws. Impeachment is designed to censure/remove a president from office by impeaching (House) and convicting (Senate). Once removed from office then DOJ prosecutes. You think you got it this time. There is no double jeopardy. That argument is just Trump's propaganda and misinformation for the gullible or ignorant.
The Judges will laugh at that one as an appeal.
Trumps liar/lawyer (scretchy voice man) made a complete ass out of himself. His arguements were just bad as his voice. I am not judging him by his voice but how bad he was as a lawyer. Trump 100% loses this one. What other outcome, after hearing both sides, could any rational person make. I don't think the supreme court will take this one up. Slam dunk, done, over.
Arguments *
He wasnt "officially" impeached, by the senate too. So why do they refer that he was impeached as if it was complete..?
Do you consider Bill Clinton to be an impeached president?
Because it is factually correct, it basically means absolutely nothing of value but it is a factually correct statement.
It makes the story juicy!
He was impeached. Twice. Impeachment refers to the process - not the result.
There were impeachment inquiries. No impeachments.
SHORT COURT TIME ON WEAK TRUMP SIDE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA VANCE VS TRUMP
Why does it seem that these judges are looking for any and i mean ANY loop hole in the constitution???
What the hell you talking about?
@@greggrialou983 First I was asking a question and second that is exactly what it sounds like to me . "thats what I'm talking about.
They are looking for the defense to make any type of legal sense.
ON POINT! The appellate judges are trying to reargue MARBURY VS MADISON cause they know FULL WELL THAT JUDICIAL REVIEW WITH EXCEPTION THE SUPREME COURT, are FORBIDDEN!
Yeah, like, (paraphrase) "...doesn't the fact that the Constitution allows for prosecution of the President because the Constitution allows one "exception", that it occur after impeachment and conviction by the Senate...." Judge, with all due respect, you're an idiot.
The President takes a Different OATH from all other members for a specific reason!
The reason isn't that he can do whatever he wants...
You are literally arguing that Biden can just stay in power if he wants.... 😂😂😂
What is that reason?
And clearly takes an oath to protect The Constitution:’ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.’
@@7007matthew a simple explanation is sometimes a President has to make rapid decisions without going to Congress first . Take for example 9-11. The President had to act fast . In simple terms the immunity clause gave him ( Bush) the power to do so. Hope that helps you 👍🇺🇸
@@RonFowler-tc4st Well, I initially intended to be civil but since you added a snarky "Hope this helps you" at the end of your reply I'm much less inclined to treat you with kid gloves. Your "explanation" is not only wrong, but it exposes your lack of understanding of Article II of the U. S. Constitution. I wonder if. You've even read it. Just curious, what law school did you go to?
This guy keeps stating the adverb strongly. It’s a ruse to fool people that it’s more important than other issues. It’s garbage. Either the meaning is or is not. Strongly should not be used. It’s like the old movie where a lawyer “strenuously objects” who gives a crap about strongly or strenuously!
The prosecuting attorney sound like a cop making up scary hypotheticals when they don't have any real crimes.
Ney York cop
Cause that's what they're doing
😂 Republicans are arguing that Biden is illegally prosecuting Trump while their only defense of Trump is that the President is allowed to do whatever he wants....
Can it get any dumber? 🤦
So you agree with Trump, that presidents have absolute immunity?
The real crime is that footage. No angle
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Haley 2024 - 2065
Trump to prison 😃😃
I highly doubt it. After 100 attempts of taking him down, he's still standing! LOL! What a strong beast. That's why he is successful.
They are just wasting time .they are only doing this cause they are terrified they are all going to prison .when trump becomes president
@@winecellar1012lol
@@user-dz1hh6qn6s lol
You go there bye the way AMERICA almost is in prison the way we have to live under the Biden rules 👎
Liberal judge is trying so hard to make hime agree with her. Sorry. Nope.
😂 Republicans are arguing that Biden is illegally prosecuting Trump while their only defense of Trump is that the President is allowed to do whatever he wants....
Can it get any dumber? 🤦
Stop smoking cigarettes
You got to admit whether you like Trump or not he’s a fighter and that’s what I want from a president, not someone old weak and senile like potato Joe
Yes!
😂😂😂 y'all are characters
Me too!!!
Yes, dictators tend to be strong superficially. Their strength is fed from scaring people who prefer strength for true presidential qualities - rule of law, civility, caring for the nation etc.
Like Putin, Kim and Xi . 👍
Who Trump coincidentally loves....
If impeached and convicted (Senate) by 2/3 vote, Trump cannot be charged again because of immunity and double jeopardy. Pretty simple. The 2/3 standard is higher for the president. The case is done.
The double jeopardy argument has no standings. In 1986 during the impeachment of trial of judge Harry Claiborne the senate ruled a criminal conviction doesn’t require and impeachment and someone acquitted in a court of law can still be impeached. In 1993 the Supreme Court ruled in the case Nixon v United States that impeachment is solely a political question. Double jeopardy applies to criminal. So if impeachment is a political question then double jeopardy doesn’t apply.
@@blakekaveny Double jeopardy does apply and so does immunity. Random cases have no standing criminal or otherwise.
@@Parture those aren’t random cases those are precedent. Double jeopardy only applies to criminal not impeachment because they’re political questions. If double jeopardy applied you wouldn’t be able to impeached for something you were acquitted of in court of law.
@@Parture Courts usually like it when you cite past case law and precedent.
@@blakekaveny Those are not precedent. What is precedent is double jeopardy and immunity.
I think Trump will win here.
Great! Then Biden can just put Trump in jail if he wants! 🤦
That's literally their ONLY defense...
That would give Biden absolute immunity to do break whatever laws he wants, and effectively end democracy, but let's see what they decide.
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Lay off the kool aid fool
What acts? They're just allegations.
He's not even disputing that he committed those acts, he's saying he can't be held accountable because he was once president
Have you been sleeping? We're way past that. They've got photographic evidence, texts, eyewitness accounts from his staff and video🤤
@@arteson9999Dominique isn’t paying attention or is just plain dumb.
@@arteson9999and doing so while Biden is President, to boot 😂. He is asking for a leopards ate my face moment.
For 200 years Joe Biden fixed it😂😆keep Washington off your mouth.
drumpf is history..... bad history.....
The chief executive ( president) has the role of making sure laws are followed. Like it or not, that also means for elections that they're in or not. That would be part of his/her job. Therefore immunity during official acts ( which making sure elections are being lawfully carried out) is just that. An act they MUST carry out as chief executive . Every lawful act he committed was during his duty as Chief Executive. Communists just want you to believe that he was just crying " hand me the election " regardless. Which no act or comment by him says as much. Communists want you to believe that alternative electors , which is legal, is fraudulent . How is the chief executive supposed to carry his lawful duty to secure elections without immunity? We could just arrest every damn president who carries out such duty. Made up or not.
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@arteson9999
His own AG Barr said he was told he lost. The courts of our land have told him repeatedly he has no evidence of fraud. The bottom line is “ be careful what you wish for” Dark Brandon is the President in power now. If there’s immunity for an ex-president there is immunity for a sitting President.
Absolutely!!
Which he didn't do.... That's the issue.... 🤦
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Why isn't he arguing that in court? 🤔
@@hakancarlsson2881 because the courts are democrats mostly 🙄 is why
Crazy.
@@ronaldbump9278 who's crazy 🤪 biden is I'm sure he can't MAGA
@@dianabias3024 Great sentence. 🤦
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