Inside the Cockpit - Messerschmitt Me 262 [Part 2]
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- The Messerschmitt Me 262 is one of the most iconic planes from World War 2. As the first jet fighter fielded in significant numbers, it marks the shift from piston to jet aircraft. Let's go over its history and design. This is Part 2.
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Little correction. When I mentioned the circle like antenna up top, this is not for the FuG25. The Peilrahmen (the circle) is standard equipment and I can't quite tell how I got this wrong here. Apologies, I am only human.
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2:57 the blue tank its labeled Hn3 hydrazoic acid., that was most likely used as an inerting gas to take up the space in the fuel tanks as fuel was consumed and to assist the fuel pumps moving the fuel due to it being above atmospheric pressure , additional fire suppression to add to there self sealing rubber tanks
Signaling flares
@@MilitaryAviationHistory I’ve read that some night fighters used illumination flares. I don’t know if the 262 was ever used as a night fighter?
@@notmenotme614 Me 262B-la/U1
Great walk round, it's the first time I've ever had a look inside and outside an Me 262 in such fascinating detail. A very informative pair of videos, many thanks.
I'm an American with two Swiss parents - I can't speak German but I was delighted every time you whipped through one of those forty-syllable words. Excellent video. Also, thank you for my Porsche.
I would like to see a detailed tour of a FW 190 cockpit.
I’ve seen two of these beautiful birds; one at the Naval Aviation Museum and another at the Air Force Museum here in the US. That said, I’ve definitely never seen one this close! Thanks for the great content as always.
There is another one at the RAF Museum in Cosford, England.
Both of these are modeling gold for anyone doing a scale model of this aircraft.
I paid this beautiful aircraft a visit last year. Technicians were working on the nose camera an elderly gentleman helping provided interesting info was very proud of the plane
Coming from a VFR Cessna, this looks quite busy! Smart guys flew these.
When one looks at the cockpits and build quality of the 262 in this museum and the FW-190A5 of FHC and the BF-109s of other museums, the deterioration of German industrial system is just so stark. Levels of restoration not withstanding.
A remarkable if still under developed and simple aircraft. Fantastic work as always Bismarck.
beyond outstanding video, explained methodically in clear, precise terminology with additional intel that most disregard when doing a full-breakdown, complete with even the difficult angle photography that's very thorough. ive not seen a better descriptive tour of the 262 period...well-done and kutgw!!! did not know the instrument panel was wooden.
Thank you for yet another brilliant video/s.
Really cool. Always wanted to see inside the cockpit of a 262. Good job!
I’ve seen this at the Deutsches museum many times, but was never able to see all these details. Thank you!
Great information on German cockpit design, you helped me understand some of the workings.
I always firmly believed that you will make this episode public in a week or so. Thank you for not locking any of your amazing main content behind a paywall
I believe in always making content public. As a thank you I will continue to provide early access to channel members or Patreon supporters but all videos are made public eventually
Brilliant video. Thanks a bunch!!!!
Kudos on being able to take a look at a 262 pit, not many people have, so thank you very much for sharing that!
Really cool. Thanks for the video.
What a fantastic video. Thank you
Another wonderfully informative video. Thank you.
Fantastic video! Incredibly interesting. Many thanks!
First time ever for me to see the interiors of Me-262. Superb !!!👍👍❤
This plane set the framework for the future templates of jets for many many years. Kool informative video. Vielen Dank !
Great video very detailed
Ah, great video as always! Very informative, thank! ;D
Very cool video! Great job!
excellent ! ... I love this series of videos.
Excellent walk round talk on this aircraft, after 40 years in aviation i actually learnt something new today, namely the homing device ! When compared to the Gloucester Meteor the ME 262 looks years ahead, I have seen one in the "flesh" at one of the RAF museums and it is a very very impressive machine !
Do you know what the flare ejection system was for?
Great Show 👍🤝😎
Best one yet.
Nice review
Great video
Could you maybe do a special about Fighter sights and their development? I know its probably very much
This aircraft is so amazing, truly cutting edge. The front view of the fuselage is triangular, this is the best shape for weight saving and aerodynamic airflow. You showed us the cockpit, but the ejection seat by itself needs a separate video, just like the engines. The Japanese also built their version called the Nakajima Kikka. There were similarities but their's was a high altitude interceptor/fighter aircraft (to counter the bomber, mainly B 29 menace), so the wings were shorter and the tail end was broader. Some parts were the same as early aircraft such as the front landing gear of the Mitsubishi Zero.
No ejection seat in the 262
...remember my Dad talking about seeing these in action...a pair of them were trying to bomb a bridge, but were overshooting their target...they tried twice before three P-51's came to engage them...he said the 262's just pulled up in a spiral and left the 51's like they were standing still
Inside the Bismarck’s cockpit. You’re like the plane version of the chieftain
From a modelers perspective this was very informative. I’ve built a bunch of 262’s over the years and always wanted to know what all the items in the cockpit were seeing as I don’t read German!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Such a beautiful aircraft.
WoW this is Glorious
That is an awesome bird, thank you!
Awesome video, my favorite WW2 fighter. Great commentary, imagine if Germany had put more resources into building these when they weren't under as much pressure from day/night bombing, and as you said didn't have to resort to sheds in a forest or underground/etc facilities, with no corners needing to be cut. It still amazes me what the 262 could and did go what with all the challenges Germany and the LW faced in building, maintaining, and fighting this amazing machine. I also think that if they went with 2 MK103 instead of 4 MK108, it would have been more deadly, as the pilots said the low muzzle velocity of the guns combined with the high closure rate made aiming and getting solid gun solutions very, very difficult. Great vid/pic of the R4M as well.
It would have been interesting to see how this would have done against the Gloster Meteors that were being produced in numbers by 1945, but they wouldn't let fly over enemy territory lest they be shot down and reverse engineered. The brits held their jet technology very close at the time.
There is a night configuration ME 262 in what I believe is original paint, in Johannesburg. Looks more original than the aircraft featured. Excellent video. Thanks
More inside the cockpit please
Thank you for the great videos with many details about this iconic airplane. As you know we only peeled back a couple of layers there is many more. When I look at the wiring and hardware configurations throughout the videos I see striking similarities to the machines I work on today as an elevator / escalator mechanic foreman. There are a few elevators and escalators still in service of German design that are over 50 years old, which we still service today for NYC Subway system, many have recently been replaced and are not as good in my opinion . Ich bin Vorarbeiter eines Aufzugs und Rolltreppen Mechanikers
The pressurized air lever in the cockpit is likely used to release air from a canister (accumulator in US aviation terms) that will blow down the landing gear and possibly flaps. Compressed air could also be used to start an engine if there is not enough airflow to windmill the compressor blades.
Great idea for a series in fact insane that it hasn't been done before.
Can you do a video about the German IFF?
Maverick Raphael H. Sebastian +1
Wow great video. I love this aircraft. I've actually seen a real ME262 here in Australia disassembled but original. I'm not sure what the plans are for it.
Where was that. I'd love to see one. I'm in Northern NSW.
@@71tbomb down at the Treloar Centre which is a part of the Australian War Memorial. It was in pieces when I last saw it.
@@banarcus Thanx. I'll have to check it out sometime. I'm thinking of heading to Summer Nats anyway. Cheers for that.
War Thunder could'nt explain those gauges to me, but Bismark could. Thanks alot for the cool and informative video.
Thank you for a highly informative video. Have you made one on the ho 229?
There is a ME-262 in Everett Washington USA that is getting ready for its test flight.
A new reproduction I guess?
@@PanzerBuyer little late to the party, but a original powered by modified Jumo 004s for increased reliability and service life
Edit: I was thinking of the Flying Hertiage museums me262, the everett ones seem to be new production
Gracias por la súper visita, as soon as I got "possibilities" I'll help your page !!! Adiós.
my favorite plane!
Please do a video like this on the He111
So beautiful
Yippee! Tee shirt arrived today (Saturday). Well chuffed - cheers.
Isn't the compressed air for the emergency gear/flap deployment?
Canopy lanyard spring looks like spring door on a house screen door.
Dam that was detailed, very informative, had to watch this after part 1, this would have to be my favourite aircraft of all time, so glad an original still exists. Are there any real ones flying, I was told all the ones you see at airshows are replicas ?.
Aye, just the rebuilds, no originals fly, which is a pity. The new ones use American jet engines.
I would never say that cabin is from 1945
Excellent set of videos about this fascinating aircraft.
But, do tell us more about the flare dispensers. What Allied weapon(s) were they designed to counter?
Probably meant for signalling (different colors) or lighting up a field at night. At least that was common for the era.
Like you said @ 8:10 . The right temperature gauge looks off.... really off.
130C max. That would be something for oil or water temp on a prop like a BF109 or FW190.
It should mirror the 900C gauge on the left side.
All German fighters ww2 had fighter bomber variants fw290 was outstanding in role me109 not so good
Fw 190 outstanding fighter bomber
The labelling is x10. You'll see the red line, under that scheme, matches the left gauge.
Thanks your video es nice veryyyy
Nice
Thank you. Superb video! How would a pilot have used the IFF back then? Was it simply for signaling a friendly position or a tower during approach? If it worked both ways, what steps did the pilot take to engage this, what type of output was generated, and how did the pilot interpret the output to discern friendly from foe while in combat?
It just IDs the aircraft as German on the Freya radar system. It stops the radar operators from directing fighters or flak against them although it was later exploited by the allies to locate Luftwaffe night fighters and so became less effective later in the war.
Muito bom... 👏👏👏
Wasn't there a version with a 50mm cannon? If so, what was it used for?
I wish you'd narrate the HE-219 in Dulles Virginia USA.
in the first part you mentioned that they tried attemping to make a fighter bomber out of me262 are there any op examples? if so how successful if any was it?
Wow I did not know this plane has pilot ejection seat available at that time
I wonder what an original ME-262 control stick in good condition might sell for these days, any thoughts?
Great presentation. Why flares? No IR seekers in those days.
Signaling
2:20 all those disconnected hydraulic lines
This plane looks absolutely predatory. The NSDAP, as horrible as they were, always had the coolest toys.
Willy doesn' t painted those 262's noses as shark mouths - as Curtiss made on P-40 - but, look at nose's frontal shape, isn't the same. ?
I wonder how different it would have looked like if Germany had built these during peacetime, not while they were getting defeated already and running out of everything.
John Jalas Spotted the racist.
@John Jalas So you don't object to being called out as being a racist?
That's interesting.
@John Jalas Hope the tinfoil hat isn't too tight. Which, I'm afraid, is.
Stop the boozing and get a grip pathetic creature.
The US would have dropped Little Boy, Fat man and many more at Germany. End of story and end of germany.
Hey i have never seen flares dispensers on such early planes. I thought they only came about when heat seeking missiles came to be. What were they used for ? I've never seen any pictures of ww2 planes using flares. Except maybe at night to mark a target for bombers. Awesome video.
Could be parachute flares, used to illuminate a area. Not that I know, but they were heavily used around this time.
10:41 I had no idea it was possible to charge the cannons in-flight. With with MK 108 firing from an open bolt, that means standard practice was to take off with the bolts closed (certainly safer and less wear on the guns, etc) and then charge them for a dogfight? Interesting.
The stick itself is a standard stick, also used in different planes. Whether that button saw an actual use here, I am not yet sure
@@MilitaryAviationHistory I didn't realize that either, that's neat too, thanks! All these in-depth videos you do are always fantastic, so a big thank you in general for all the content on the channel. :)
Are you sure that the “loop” type antenna is for Identification Friend or Foe purposes. I think it was actually used for radio direction (DF) finding purposes.🤔
I think I posted something about this in the pinned comment.
@@MilitaryAviationHistory i think the pinned comment is no longer pinned, or maybe youtube is just screwing around. anyway great and interesting pair of videos. i'd like to ask about the flare dispensers mentioned immidiatly after that, what is their peropus? heat seeking missiles were clearly not in service (unless there's something here i don't know about), were they for lighting for ground troops or something?
@@nitaihat12 I think for marking targets on the ground.. Flares that is. :)
Every loop antenna I have seen on aircraft have been for RDF.
Learning stuff. Sauerstoff = oxygen. Doesn't taste very sour, at least at 21%. Apparently the name in German comes from an early misconception that oxygen was an essential component of acids.
Kudos to the museum for the cut-aways and removed panels.
(Another well-thought-out and informative video. By the way.)
Interesting. In Bulgarian the word for oxygen also comes from sour. I always connected it in my mind to being corrosive.
Great vid! Can you make one about Panzer tactics in WW2? In urban, and flat land woul be great!
Tanks don't have wings
@@MilitaryAviationHistory Good point😅 Maybe in a vid together with Bo time gaming?
Hold on, IFF system? As of visually or just for ground radar?
For radar. FuG 25 gave a response to the Freya radar systems. The flare launchers were for visual IFF.
+Bis18marck70 *At Time **7:38**, I spotted a combination attitude and yaw-rate indicator.* What manufacturers and part numbers? I'd consider the attitude/yaw-rate indicator a period-appropriate upgrade for the Fantasy of Flight Bayerische Flugzeugwerke Bf 108 in overhaul as of January 2020.
Loved this video
However, the audio is a too low.
It’s all the other videos that is too high.
Would it really be good idea to have so many cables in the same yellow color?
Hey Ole, your question prompted me to reach out to the museum to ask them on this. Reply just came in, as far as they can tell, the cables are original. By the point this aircraft was constructed (Jan/Feb 45) any sort of regulation on colour-coding (if it existed, I don't know - it's something I haven't looked in to yet) would have been out of the window anyway.
@@MilitaryAviationHistory Good answer! ...I just wondered whether it was restored to just look "nice". Now I know it was not. Thumbs for the museum then :-)
Im most aircraft that I have worked on the electrical systems are wired with white. Stamped on these wires are codes designating what system and function of the wires belong . Basically you have to go to the schematics diagram figure out what wire you are looking for and pick through the bundle to find the wire. I have seen colored cables attached to generators but usually white is the standard.
@@MilitaryAviationHistory yes, it is correct that most of the electric cables are yellow on the German airplanes! Generally on each cable is attached a code every once a while along the cable making the life of the electrician somewhat easier but he will always need a schematic chart to "navigate"! Btw it is very interesting to note that generally the interior is far more original including the inspection stamps on the interior of panels! But I have a question for you: the Revi 16B gunsight can be rotated and slide forward, is it to protect the pilot's face when crash landing? Again a very interesting video and keep posting!
@Trevor Taylor Exactly, I do remember chasing wires in an oily area in a wheel well and most of the wire stamping had come off. Not alot of fun.
Amazing jets the Me 262s thank you for the two videos and greetings from the U.S.A
hello sir, may i reuse parts of this video for my content?
Bis, speaking of bombs on the 262, I have read that the jet bombers proved to be terrible platforms for bombing because the excess speed and lack of sophisticated bomb-aiming and release mechanisms made it virtually impossible for the pilot to gauge his release-point with any accuracy. Do you know whether this is fact or fiction? Thanks for these 2 wonderful episodes, and good hunting!
I' e love yo go around the aviación museun
What was the purpose of the flare dispensers? Was there a threat of heat sensing arms guidance then?
While I can't say for this bird in WWII many fighters carried flares for several reasons. If the radio was out and you needed to signal a issue upon landing you would fire colored flare to signal your distress. They were also used to mark targets or objects of interest on the ground. Things like that.
Thanks again for another eye opening video! You’ve mentioned that due to the later stage of the war a lot of the components for the aircraft were made in austere conditions and often by forced labor. Do these factors negatively affect quality and further limit operating performance? Also are there any evidence the forced laborers knowingly engaged in sabotage during construction? Thanks for your insight!
Kenneth Lee
Yes there was sabotage on a regular basis, & caused malfunction's & breakdown's out in the field.
Tricycle landing gear!!
Omg, they took the wheels off trikes!
Man, resources were bad by the end huh!?
They should've produced it in 1939, they had already engineered the drawings at that point....I would definetly fly it even today. Simple and effective....I want to ask about what fuels it can and could use...
What is the long, little window for, just below the canopy???
The cutaway? That was installed by the museum a long time ago to allow people to have a look inside.
Did you ever find out if the gunsight was original? also, next time youre in Dubendorf, CH see if you can get into the ME-109E3 we have there, would be interesting to see if there are any cockpit differences between an export Swiss airforce BF-109 and a LW 109
I asked them a bunch of questions recently but not on the sight yet
11:22 The thingamajig on a screen door that keeps it from slamming except it doesn't and the door slams shut anyway?
No, actually it looks like the springy thingy that stops the screen door from ‘opening’ too far, I think 👍🇩🇪
But can you show as su57'd cockpit?
They became one with the speed force but ironically they did not do it fast enough to make much of a difference in the war
1:52 Flares? What purpose did they serve in a pre-Air to Air Missile era?
The AC-47 spooky used in Vietnam carried lots of flares to illuminate enemy positions. I imagine it might serve the same purpose, especially since there was no night vision equipment at the time. Drop them over a target area first so you can see what you are shooting at.
@@GaryCameron flares would signal if wounded aboard on landing approach as on B17s maybe if radio kaput etc
pardon my ignorance, but @ 2:00.. early GPS ??
Flux Gate and ADF (automatic direction finder).
Audio is exceptionally quiet here. Volume maxed out but the green bar is only going up about 1/5 of the way on the volume mixer.