2015 Personality Lecture 07: Depth Psychology: Carl Jung (Part 02)
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- Carl Jung was one of the most profound thinkers of the 20th century, and the first major post-enlightenment intellectual to consider religious thinking from a truly biological perspective.
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"without the capacity to sin, there is no virtue in not doing it"
35:53 "What you already assume can be the worst impediment that you have towards learning something new"
Integrating the shadow
See Bill Burrs take on guys that ripped Tiger Woods.
very true, Marccas interesting take, as well
Do what thou wilt, should be the only law
First sentence “so here’s how to conceptualise yourself in Jungian terms”
Oh boy here we go...
I have a friend that Played Persona and I, a Psuedo-dark web intellectual, caught him making jokes about it to me and i had to snap at him and say "YOU JUST THINK ITS A FUCKING GAME DONT YOU!?"
ah shit, here we go again!
The wildest of rides
this guy doesn't small talk his way to us, no count down, no pick up lines, no nothing,
“Like” the comment currently has 666 likes, so I have to like by reply. The
He is not so much teaching them a subject, as simply telling these college kids the most important things they'll need to know to be adults. awesome.
Seems like college/education as it should be
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Mark Donald yes.. tells u much of what Jung was trying to do for humanity
@Mark Donald for one class lol
@Mark Donald we teach theorys on freud in psychology too...whats your point???
Just imagine for a brief second that these recordings were never made.... How disadvantaged would we all be and at what cost? What a great time to be alive x
I would be dwelling in my house contemplating suicide for fear of failure in the attempt to realize myself fully in the world. This man is a Godsend.
@@bobwilkinsonguitar6142 I completely agree. I was a nihilistic drug addict for years, always hating myself, always wishing for death. And I used pathological belief systems, which I thought of as literal truth, to justify my behavior. I have no idea how lost I would be still without this man, he's helped me so much in figuring out what I truly believe and value.
Heeeyh yeah.
How right u are! We are all
A lowly earthworms, Replenishing the earth, in order too maintain its place in
Orbit!!
Andrew Liggett Of course!!
Out of habit with most 1+ hour long videos on CZcams, I automatically skipped to about 5 minutes in, to "get to the real stuff".
I quickly found out, as I back tracked to 3 minutes, 2 minutes, 1 minutes, 30 seconds, I just had to keep going back to 0 to make sure I caught everything. Amazing lecturer. Thank you again Dr. P!
Same here man..why he stopped being that serious now
@@ayandas22 carnivore diet. Lifted his depression and lowered anxiety.
@Johnny G there isn't a sharp distinction between information and wisdom. Peterson shares "linked" informations in his lectures, which you can subsume and describe as wisdom.
Peterson's opinion on the record is there is not a strong link between IQ and wisdom
Wisdom is an action. Information is good but wisdom is useful. To know where a light switch is and flipping it to on or off are different things.
100 years from now a professor will be talking about JBP in this manner.
nope...
Absolutely!🌝
that's the way it works, if you organize your mind and words and produce evidence of it, someone will do the same to you at some point....doesn't even matter what it is. it could be nonsense, someone will find value at some point somewhere in time. even if you have people that refute it by the truckloads.
No U-Man beans in 100 years.
Word
This man is an impeccable lecturer.
He makes me want to buy a lectern...and a notebook.
...and a pencil sharpener
But he's dressed like thomas jefferson
@@7celestialtrumpets I hadn't paid attention to that yet.
@@KazKasozi I think he's dressed like jordan peterson lol
@@freeyourmind4349 😂😂 so Thomas Jefferson preemptively copied JPs clothes!
So many of your sentences feel immediately true. Your premises are so honed, so sharp its god damn exciting to listen to.
+Snowdenbleep YES!
You know you have an amazing professor when the class applauds after his lecture. J.B. Peterson is just what this world needs at this exact time in history.
the single best lecture I have ever seen - priceless wisdom
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It is nuts man! Crazy how he speaks of the top of his head. It may be his best piece.
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Great analysis, I worked on Lion King as a merchandise designer w/ Disney, and most people don't know that this is the animated version of Hamlet, (another incarnation of the the jealous brothers, like Cain and Abel).
I knew that. Love your work!
my high school English teacher taught us this.
I have a question for you personally: Does it seem like all of these Disney "remakes" are being made bad on purpose? Pinocchio, The Little Mermaid, Lion King, etc, all seem to have the life sucked out of them. All of the metaphysical and spiritual aspects have been washed away in the name of arbitrary ideology.
@@postplays I disagree. Primarily, they are classic stories redone for a child's level, but enough story to also interest adults.
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Using The Lion King to explain Carl Jung's principles is pure genius. The first part of the lecture lays the foundation and the revelations begin with the movie clips. After watching many lectures by Professor Peterson, I really didn't expect him to mention Groundhog Day (Bill Murray) towards the end. The value of "paying attention" is repeated over and over in his work. Now I finally understand the true meaning of the "Eye of Horus" and its not what David Icke would have you believe.
RJ Thomas
David Icke. Smashed
The Pinocchio breakdown in the previous lecture are mind shattering
@@Bluudclaat David Icke today would probably agree with Peterson. He would just say that Jung's anima, animus, and shadow, were actually the gnostic archons and the demiurge.
Icke is right in that tyranny subverted those symbols for their own dark agendas, JP would agree with that too
Peterson's lectures always leave my mind wandering away from his train of thought, not by boredom but by captivation
Very true. He opens up new thought pathways which leave you wandering.
Jordan is easily the greatest teacher of our age
I’m so glad that someone is carrying on the tradition of Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell. People that criticize the method as being “oversimplified” either miss the point and/or have no better way of explaining the timeless concepts that are all around us in stories.
Actually JP expressly rejects Joseph Campbell as an empty counterfeit alternative to real depth psychology , and to real understanding of myth and archetype . In one of these lectures JP responds to Campbell's " follow your bliss " woo with exactly the kind of contempt it deserves .
Georgina Whitby I’ve seen people make the same claim without much evidence to back it up. I’ve watched/listened to probably dozens of hours of his content and read 12 Rules for Life, and I never saw him make a directly negative statement about Joseph Campbell. Of course it would be absurd to do so because he pretty much lifted Joseph’s Campbell’s entire shtick, and added a psychology degree. And even the focus on Jungian psychology remains. Maybe you’ve got some examples you can point to. I hope you’re not just parroting what others have said.
WOW. This is just about as deep down the rabbit hole as I've ever gone.
Congrats you scratched the surface.
@@valdasdr8432 *flashbacks*
I find it interesting that by donning a mask, either real or the mask of anonymity people are afforded when online, people’s persona’s are naturally bypassed, almost as if the unconscious knows the front of the persona is not necessary while anonymous, and this provides a direct channel for the unconscious self to emerge directly in the world, the shadow.
Mevlinous woooah you just blew my brains out, it’s something like i already knew but didn’t know I knew or couldn’t articulate it.
Yes, In many cases both ego and the shadow present themselves to the world without being filtered through a persona or without persona being presented. In those cases it seems archetypes of both extremes (good and evil) emerge rather quickly. However some use anonymity for the purpose of displaying different persona to different groups of people. In real life one can have multiple personas, for example one for friends and one for work, while still going under a single identity, whereas it would be impossible (or very difficult) to separate one's two online personas where the two groups can see both. Unless private settings are set properly (if available) so each group of people can access only one persona meant for them.
Yes, that is why the CZcams comments section is such a wondrous thing. It goes from the sublime to the dumpster fire. Every time CZcams management talks about censorship plans, they prove that they are dull bureaucrats who don't have a clue.
Anonymous shitposting is the ultimate form of interaction with the shadow. Shadowposting.
@@bratwurstkinsman6740 Shitposting is emerging chaos from which great potential can be brought forward...
"It's a lot easier to be disorganized and brutal than organized, productive and free". That's the sort of thing I might not have thought of, but once told, I recognize how true it is. And it explains politics in a way in one sentance! Numerous mind-expanding gems like this in Peterson's lectures.
Any time Dr. Peterson pauses and looks up, he’s downloading ageless wisdom from the collective unconscious
Hope and pray to God you are still on the way back to full recovery Dr. Peterson
Man I would love for JP to break down the chronicles of Narnia.
From memory I think he has touched on it. Not sure where. All I remember is him saying is the lion is a representation of god
The Matrix
Start at his Genesis lecture
@@danielfriend5635 lol! What a brilliant and unique insight!
If only I had known all this about my shadow self, instead of being ashamed and feeling bad about it as I was taught, a long time ago. Thank you Jordan Peterson..
Just wanted to say thank you Jordan Peterson for sharing your lectures in the public domain for free. It’s absolutely wonderful to do this - it benefits us all. Excellent work which is very thought provoking, and an excellent catalyst for self development.
8:28 You should be nice to other people but you should also be nice to yourself.
Now that’s a quote! 👌
I can't even begin to express how helpful your lectures have been to me. Thank you Dr. Peterson
28:14 "Harmless and virtuous are by no means the same thing."
"without the capacity to sin, there is no virtue in not doing it"
Im so glad im watching this for free. Greetings from Dominican Republic!
First professor I've seen getting applause at the end of every lecture. Thank you for posting these online.
I have an exam tomorrow and this isnt even close to the topic but here I am watching through the whole thing. Great respect for you JP and thanks for giving us the opportunity to learn from such a intellectual person for free.
Thank you Mr. Peterson, you have inspired me to go to college and study with other real scholars.
That’s awesome brother 👏 he just inspired me to do the same !!! ☺️
26:16 the interrogations of chris watts and grant amato (both murdered their family: Wife and kids, and brother and parents, respectively) both reveal them claiming to be the "peacemakers" and "the ones who never got angry" in their families...
Dr Peterson's remarks here just made me see the connection between perpetual avoidance and literally-overwhelming resentment.
Wow, I noticed that you reply in a similar way as I do, so I went to like it when I noticed that your comment had my favorite number as the amount of likes, then I realized you were a content creator for a niche that I'm now pretty interested in, AND when I go to sub so I can check your stuff out later, your sub count was my second favorite number.. Neat :^)
OMG when you wrote that Chris Watts murdered his family I was holy fuck that's not possible. I was thinking about Alan Watts. :D Almost had a heart attack.
“People of the Lie”.discusses the lack of self reflection as the fertile ground for the development of evil in a personality.
Dr. Peterson's lectures are always amazing. Thank you, professor.
Greetings from Lebanon Dr. Peterson,
Thank you for sharing your wisdom, it’s a very enriching experience (full of insights).
I would like to draw your attention to the origin of the word ‘nice’. From Latin (nescire = not know) to (nescius=ignorant), then old French /middle English (nice=stupid).
It seems to me relevant to the discussion at the beginning of the lecture (8th min).
I love word origins. They can tell you a lot about they way people thought and viewed things in the past. One of my favorites is 'Fair'. It not only meant pale, but also meant the best, the most beautiful. Today it means mediocre.
Jihad Allam In America, men want “nice” woman and if you are disagreeable, it is not in your favor. The truth however, is it’s best as a woman not to be nice. Cordial, exchange pleasantries but never nice. ❤️🕺
@@Dude0000 Kind of you to say so
Everything Dr Paterson is saying, I can relate to in one way or another.
He's brilliantly articulating what we already know.
Thank goodness that my generation has a scholarly public figure that has such fundamental wisdom to impart to humanity. I Love your books Jordan, thank you for doing all that your doing. We see you and deeply value everything you've done for our generation.
Ty to have articulated what I think :) ❤✌
Greetings from Oz. I love and am grateful for this stuff. I also love how Prof. Peterson understands the game. Put your great songs up for free and live off your gigs and vinyl sales. Bravo!
-Totally, these free lectures are better than all the colleges I went., bro! -Jung is a conduit between all cultures - his analyses took into full view the psychedelic cultures such as Yanomami/Campa just as much as the “western” modular cultures. --But the funniest thing is that Joyce did all the cultural and Alchemical work of Jung, but condensed it into Finnegans Wake- he put the analysis into literature- which is the most wise and human thing to do above all else. Literature is more human.
Yes, this is spot on! Archetypes are often more undisguised in popular culture, more evident in action films, operas and romcoms than in Virginia Woolf. If you see the same elements again and again in films, songs, novels, dreams, then there are archetypes, too. This is not arbitrary. Deserts, jungles, mountaintops, floods, the depths of the seas, journeys, as challenges or settings, are common archetypes, too. There are hundreds. We know them from myths, fairy tales, and folk songs, and evergreens.
Propaganda tries to feed from archetypes - like using fire, blood, flags, marches, black, red, white, etc, in its arsenal.
Snowwhite, the evil queen, the seven dwarfs with their work in the mines.
Many of us who are fascinated by Jung's analytical psychology kind of feel elevated when we recognize these patterns.
A world of not random elements... it is suiting for the mind and satisfying from both an ethical and esthetical point of view - if these things are important to you - and if they are, then you need them in your life, like if you've got an N in your personality type, or otherwise inclined towards being a creative or a dreamer.
Congrats if you resolve a riddle from a personal dream with their help.
I just watched both lectures on Jung in this series; masterful teaching, Dr. Peterson. Very engaging, and, indeed, very enlightening - this coming from someone who reads every bit of Jung I can get my hands on.
i want to start reading Jung, do you have any suggestions? how do i take it, what do i read first? and what do i expect?
@@mirnasrullahkhan6588 "memories, dreams and reflections" or "modern man in search of a soul" are good starts. I personally take notes while reading to ensure comprehension. Try to find a copy of "the red book, a reader's edition" and finish off with "man and his symbols".
I think "modern man in search of a soul" does a great job at explaining a lot of terms and concepts created by Jung (shadow, archetypes, complexes...) and " M,D,R" explains Jungs life, so it becomes helpful to comprehend how his books evolved with him through his life. And finish with "man and his symbols" because it's the only book that he intented to be read by a general audience (non specialists) and is his final official piece of work (MDR was published after his death but was technically written by him ).
@@mirnasrullahkhan6588 Start with the essay by Jung "Approaching the Unconscious" in his Man and his Symbols. Then read Jolande Jacob's The Psychology of Carl Jung and then read Jung's Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious. Then you can read anything.
Grateful for having access to such gold for free
Hello,
I'm a songwriter and mental health support worker from England and am also very interested in the work of C.G Jung and Mircea Eliade
Have been enjoying your series on Personality very much over the past few weeks - Really great!
David J
"Until you've practised being competent in a new domain, it's not yours. And so this clip is showing what is basically an eternal truth, which is that your territory is whatever you've mastered. And it's demarcated by everything you haven't mastered."
After finding out about professor's condition yesterday, it now makes it so much more difficult to watch this and not worry about him. Here is a man, who taught us the real meaning of life and purpose while he himself is at great pain. Please be okay, Professor. Please.
@@MrFloneil As of now, he's in rehab due to total physical withdrawal...
@Andrew Cummings Apparently extreme anxiety ever since his wife got diagnosed with cancer. But he's reached depression to the point that he has total physical withdrawal.
I wish I had gone to college with you as my professor when I was much younger. But my path has led me to you now and I’m glad my choices have been validated by watching these lectures. I’m not completely proud of my past but I’m happy to know where I am headed in the future. I look forward to the day I get to look you in the eye, shake your hand and share my story with you. All the best Professor!
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wow, your words are like therapy to my soul. its like im surfing your wave of thought and enjoying the scenery wherever it is that you are taking me
The first 2 minutes alone are enough to ponder on for a whole day
What a privilege to be alive today, and be able to just pull this up and watch it whenever you want. Invaluable!
Endlessly fascinating - thanks so much Dr Peterson.
I'm so stoked that I started listening to this man... My life and the lives of others, are better because of it... LONG LIVE JBP!!!!!!
These lectures have helped me to understand myself so much better. Thank you Dr. Peterson for helping me to deal with all the pain I'm in. By understanding myself better I have been able to face my problems in a healthier way and change things about myself that were hurting me that I had been totally oblivious of before. I've fallen off the wagon but fortunately coming back here and listening to what you have to say has refreshed me in a way and I've been able to find my sense of direction again.
I LOVE these older lectures. They seem less forced than his newer material.
10:40 darker virtues
28:36 virtue and sin
22:29 : englightment
According to Orwell’s book, coal miners additionally often had a long commute from their villages to the pit head before they even began their horrific underground journeys.
Historically , women and children also worked down the coal mines, usually naked because of the intense heat.
Can you imagine the kind of abuse these vulnerable individuals were subjected to under such conditions?
Equal to or worse than slavery.
16 tons, and what do you get? Another day older, and deeper in debt.
I've always thought this.
Small communities, husbands and wives working at the same pit, there could also be little that you could get away with without being ostracised from everybody you know - maybe stop inventing evil for which you have no evidence.
Jean- Jacque Rousseau; Thomas Hobbes on taking responsibility for self. Not blaming our past experiences or parents, the shortcomings challenge us to overcome traditions and embracing the now, tradition vs modernity. Thank you Prof Jordern Peterson , Carl Jung and Lion King. Not being nice to everyone safeguards the self and protects society.
“It is better to be feared than to be loved, if you can not be both”
― Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince
Such valuable information embedded in this story. Thank you for making it much more understandable Jordan!
How kind is JP & his team to make this available for free for those who wouldn't be able to access such advice & guidance & wisdom to help themselves & others 🥺. And after 16yrs in childcare & following JP for 2 of them....I'm strongly realising I may have what it takes to take the steps to train & become a counselor to help people. I'll be honest with you, I never had that thought before listening to JP & his passion for helping people, that same passion, I have. I hate people suffering. Ive recently sat with myself & noted I have the EQ to definitely sit some training & see where it takes me. All this inspiration I believe started with whoever led me to watch JPs talks 🙏 there's many reasons I believe this may be for me. And I will forever be thankful to JP for being such an inspiration ❤️ I'm aged 36
Professor really dropped some absolute gems. Thanks you so much.
Currently 2 weeks into reading carl jungs "the undiscorvered self" these lectures certainly help being able to understand the jung lense so to speak.
Hope you are doing better Mr. Peterson,
We all are grateful for your thorough lectures and we miss you
30:55 hehe. "The point of animus inspired argument is to get you to argue; not to win; because by getting you to argue, the animus wins" Soo true..Thanks so much for sharing. love your brain!! Peace 1:04:06 Amen
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I paid 30k at mediocre quality to learn what JP posts for free
That Groundhog Day analysis really made me question my own days. Just wow. Thank you.
What I really love about these lectures is how it is clearly important to Dr Peterson that he convey these ideas in a way that will aid his students in their transition to adulthood, rather than simply provide them with a notebook full of unconnected concepts. He reminds me quite a bit of one of my philosophy professors who, unsurprisingly, is also doing quite well for himself now.
An outstanding CZcams channel
How many times I'll have seen "Groundhog day" and never saw the meaning underlying the plot in the way Jordan Peterson explains here. Brilliant.
Hey guys,
It may be somewhere in the comments, but just found the movie about Hitler, which Jordan refers to: Triumph of the Will by Leni Riefenstahl.
Mind-blown, it felt like I got therapy myself for the recent emotions I was facing
One of the best lectures ever.
As of May of 2020 (quarantine times) 436000 of us have watched all of part of this lecture... how many cohorts would have had to go through the classroom to reach this number? Thankfully JBP made available in this way! Amazing!
That was the first commercial I listened to on CZcams .... and I have been a contributor to Saint Jude for years...makes me feel good to do good .........Thank you for carrying on, Marlo..
Very deep, a very good lesson for life.
Jordan Peterson is a great Sophist and Teacher.
Realizing and coming to terms with our limitations can be liberating.
Such a brilliant lecture, we learn about our depths through this.
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Jordan B Peterson
you inspire me to think macroscopically in a political sense
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Jordan B Peterson
YOU inspire me to be a better person! keep up the good work
I have no words, Jordan Peterson gives extraordinary lectures
Alfter this lecture I went to see, once again, the opening of The Lion King. Not ashamed to say that I cried quite a lot, I felt everything Dr Jordan Peterson said during his lecture. So powerfull
I have watched hundreds of hours of JP's work as well as read all of his books multiple times. These kind of lectures, in my opinion, are where he shines brightest though.
I understand he was dragged down to discuss political issues and all sorts of complicated topics but, to me, this is where his genius really is to be found.
Crazy to think this was recorded only 7 years ago...
I am very grateful for these lectures
Keep doing the good work!!! Thank you 🙏🏻
Something that's really great about Jordan Peterson is that he's relatable to Alan Watts and vice a versa and although legal about the truth in different ways we actually intertwine more more so than anything else
Sure are enjoying these videos Dr. Peterson, just recently discovered your videos, didn't get a chance to get super educated, but getting a good dose of it now, see ya in Charlotte in June!
Finally: university teachings that are useful for life outside of the university.
Thank you for uploading your wonderful lectures for us to view.
Thankyou; I love your mind and love this lecture. It came to me at the right time.
My eyes teared up when he started talking about agreeableness and how it can stem from a childhood where the parental figure is aggressive.
How to deal with an aggressive parent? I am still under their roof, starting my masters, in our culture it is difficult to leave the family nest before marriage.
Have anybody any idea whether Peterson addressed in his lectures the more complex struggles living in an eastern society?
Does anybody know whether he will launch one of his QnA soon? I'd love to ask him about this matter.
He did launch some, if you can reach him, reaching any other local physiologist can help to!
@@enzostark my therapist is a 2 hour drive away.. always a logistic hell to coordinate a proper time.. whenever i have the chance and the courage, I listen to Peterson
I understand culture, what's expected of people, etc... But, if you can, just bounce... Just go.... If It's toxic, leave....
Easterners have to come to realize reality at a better level than westerners, and many do. You would be served by understanding more about how you can be disagreeable, when, and why. I’d imagine you can get there by doing win win, positive sum business with others in the same circumstances.
I did ayahuasca and found out first-hand how much these assertions are spot-on correct.
Same with me my friend
Me too
God bless this man. May his speeches of wisdom be remembered forever and integrated to our human evolution of higher consciousness and pure love.
very cool presentation... thank you for sharing!
I have also shared this with our community. Thank you. :)
One question I had been thinking about was whether or not the storyteller-composer-artist understood at the time of composition the implications that arise out of the piece. JBP is so completely brilliant to be able to dissect these seemingly simple stories and archetypes into the complexity they really are. I’m being introduced to this method of thinking and even though I’m in over my head, I’m completely fascinated and can’t stop. So the answer to my question would be no, the composer would not necessarily know the complexity they are building into the structure of the story or depiction because it is not necessary for them to know why they intuitively know deep rooted concepts they, in fact, convey.
He knows so much it’s amazing
This is one of JP's best!
55:30 = Perfect description of neoclassical economics.
“Because we know that the shadow of ideological possession is repression and death” can’t penetrate much deeper than that 😬
Would love to be sat in one of his lectures writing notes. This topic is soo interesting.
Thank you Dr. Peterson, what I thought about when comes to the Anima and Animus are, that we have characters inside ourselves and these characters stems from real biological and historical substance. For all of these people inside you, you have to give them all meaning and purposes... meaning and purposes as a part of the whole. Lack of those would stem discontentment inside them. The discontent then would lead to all sorts of resistances or even sabotages of the others' purposes.
I have to say the philosophy of the shadow fascinates me. I want to learn more. It resonates with my spirit. I think if I am going to be whole as a person I need to embrace my shadow, understand it, work with it, know what I'm capable of good and evil, follow the good and keep the evil under control. It's interesting to look at Star Wars and observe the philosophy of the force vs the dark side. Every sith was controlled by their shadow, their anger. It would be interesting to see a sith who embraced the dark side, but wasn't devoured by the negative emotions, but harness their shadow. A dorky analogy, but intriguing. Thank you for posting your lectures. I am infatuated by Carl Jung philosophy and look forward to seeing future videos regarding this subject.
Jesse Knox
Luke Skywalker was able to confront his shadow in episode 5 in that underground thing in Dagobah where he fought Darth Vader and saw his face in the mask when the face was exposed.
Then in Episode 6 he used the power of his shadow to defeat Vader when Vader mentions Leia, but is able to control it so he doesn't kill Vader. That's why some people call Luke a grey Jedi since he incorporated aspects of the dark side such as anger (he also force choked gamoreans).
Amazingly helpful, thank you 🙏
Wow ! Incredible lecture !