Worse than Demonetization: Anti-Gay Ads on LGBTQ+ Videos
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2018
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"Here is some lesbians WHO ARE DOPE" ...best Hank Green quote ever.
Hey Ash your so awesome
Yay Ash! (love you! (platonicaly))
Can someone make this video a thing lol
LOVE YOU ASH
"Here is some lesbians WHO ARE DOPE" please Please PLEASE make this a video tag thingy!
Is it unreasonable for us to expect youtube to just not accept anti-gay advertisements, period?
If it can be labelled hate speech, then yes. Unfortunately, as he put it, there's a LOT of icing on that sh*t cake. As long as they don't cross that line, then they're free to say what they want.
No, not at all but but it is unreasonable to ask them to fight that battle in court and lose in what would basically be a symbolic gesture against a generally pretty nuetral and therefore sometimes entirely unreasonable entity.
Yes
@@OliverFoulkesMRO2013 I’d say cutting through the icing is the best way to expose the hate speech.
The example Hank talked about where someone is “just telling people what the Bible says” could be exposed by showing that the person has not put out any videos about other weird rules from the Bible. Have they talked about it being a sin to get divorced? To wear two different types of cloth? To touch the skin of a pig? Have they explained the way the Bible suggests to evaluate how much a slave is worth? Or how to evaluate the dowry you should require when allowing a man to marry your daughter, as if marriage were a financial transaction? Have they explained the poetry of the Bible actually meaning a woman’s sexual organ when it talks about things ‘flowing from her navel?’ I’ve checked many medical texts, nothing should be flowing from anyone belly button, but women have a nearby body part which can flow and which has been the source of many poems throughout history. Seems pretty obvious.
If the ‘just saying what the Bible says’ person isn’t interested in talking about even twenty five percent of the Bible and instead focuses on the specifically anti-LGBTQIA+ parts, then they’re telling you that they want to talk using hate speech but only if they can hide behind religion to do it. It’s disgusting that CZcams would pretend it’s impossible to see through this and I’m certain it’s insulting to Christian’s to see their faith used to attack when their savior specifically told them to “love thy neighbor”.
CZcams, do better. Stop pretending it’s impossible, just do better.
It is illegal in my country, the ASA would have a field day!
While researching vegetarianism I was getting bombarded by steak ads.
Mike Irving "You sure you don't want steak instead of veggies? Look at this delicious steak. Mmmmm!" - Steak companies.
Me: how to be vegan
CZcams: *DEAD COWS*
Honestly that is hilarious to me
@@emmakilburg9221 me too
Wait vegetarianism is a word
That makes it sound like a religion LOL
I’m vegetarian just because killing animals makes me sad
It's... still happening. I was watching a whole bunch of great trans CZcamsrs and I keep getting that Matt Walsh ad. They did nothing. Thank you for doing something.
Ive seen a bit of a resurgence but in my experience it was far far worse 5 ish years ago. Though of course that doesnt mean its universal. I think they've "tried" but there a major corporation post 1980-1990 making as as much money as possible even while targeting the vulnerable is ultimately the goal. Ultimately this also majorly the algorithms fault.
I keep seeing Anti-Choice ads before youtubers I've been subscribed to forever. Seems like just the last couple of weeks.
Turn about is fair play. Gay and trans channels should absolutely take collections to pay youtube to have their ads placed on the conservative christians channels who are doing this.
Yes! I watch a lot of trans CZcamsrs too and I keep getting ads on their videos and other videos for some sort of anti-trans movie or “documentary.”
I’ve only ever gotten the ads for that stupid documentary (if you would even call it that) on LGBTQ+ content. It feels so targeted.
If advertisers can select their sellers, sellers should be able to pick their advertisers
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But we're the product basically when it comes to CZcams so that's not going to happen.
We could pick if we payed CZcams. Simple economics.
xWood4000 I pay CZcams, it's called CZcams Red
Burgundy Burnouts True. But I think you have to collude with others that pay because 10$/month in comparison
to potentially millions is nothing and therefore advertisers have the power grip if you don't get a bunch of paying people to agree.
Thank you so much for bringing this out to the public and mentioning me. I hate how this is happening!
uppercaseCHASE1 my jaw dropped when i heard your name! I saw someone tag him in a tweet, and im so glad he took the time to look into it and make this video, and mention you!!!!!
Thanks for doing the leg work and bringing this to my attention.
I saw this and knew immediately that Hank must have seen your post. I'm so glad more Creators are becoming aware of this. Perhaps creating big creator waves is the only way to get CZcams to listen. :/
I fucking cried, no lie
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the fact that before this very video i just got a transphobic ad says a lot about how little things have improved 5 years later
Turning Point USA for me -.-
I came back to this video because I have been seeing a LOT of PragerU ads (full videos) as ads on channels that are specifically educational channels, often with a liberal or left of center bend. PragerU is so unethical to me in the way they misrepresent themselves and target vulnerable populations. My guess is the content creators have literally no idea that’s happening. It drives me crazy.
PragerU is so insidious. I actually watched one once because I genuinely try to listen to people with different opinions than me and I'm not Super far left or anything, compromise and health debate is important and possible blah blah (optimism, how I miss it.)
The weird thing is how well it was written and structured to come off as reasonable for like the first 4-5 minutes before steadily sliding into batshit crazy land. I was like, well, I don't agree with that part, but you made a good point about this, hmm, maybe this isn't so bad... WTF? lol.
@@mayaenglish5424 FR bc I did the same, I didn’t know about prager u being a nutcase channel at the time and just thought it was another interview thing so I was just like “I guess I respect their opinion” until it rapidly declined to “what in the fuck am I watching??”
@@mayaenglish5424 the misrepresenting themselves as legitimate is how the getcha, its their whole plan
I'm back here 4 years after this was uploaded because I got an ad for the daily mail "documentary" which is just a guy running around being transphobic af on a video about a trans person educating people on trans anatomy and medical transition options... it makes me not want to use youtube.
I don't actually mind it that much when I personally get one and I usually let it play all the way through. Advertisers don't pay and content creators don't get paid if you skip a particular ad, so watching it all the way through essentially takes money from the advertiser and gives it to the content creator. It's especially great when their ad is like 10-15 minutes long. Generally the longer the ad the more money they have to pay for it, so I'll just leave it in the background and go do something else for like 15 minutes.
It would be amazing if they fixed it but I seriously doubt that's ever gonna happen.
Only 90s kids remember Anderson 63 Scooper
this makes me long for the days of "HERE IN MY GARAGE" before videos, thanks for addressing this
The guy must have ran out of Lamborghinis in his Lamborghini account.
TIL: schmoyoho watches hankschannel. huh.
Hooray for exploitative pyramid schemes winning the moral high ground over hateful ideological harassment!
I just want to love the gays in the Hollywood Hills!
Had one of those play before this one. Not the Lamborghini guy, some other sketchy mofo who claimed he knew how we can all get rich and wanted me to buy the book he wrote about it.
I see now that it could have been worse. And that's terrible.
Your discontent and empathy on behalf of the lgbt community is a beautiful thing, for which I am considerably grateful. Thank you Hank. I have enjoyed your content in the past, and you have earned much esteem from myself and your viewers.
@4one14
Didn't Hank mention in one of his shorter videos that he was Bi? I'll have to watch the videos again, but I think Hank's at least not completely straight.
@@gigicaresse503 he's said multiple time's that he has straight behavior but is still confused about his sexual orientation. so kind of?
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Thanks for clearing this up!
@@3bugsinatrenchcoat the heck does straight behaviour mean? Straight or gay or bi doesn’t imply any behaviour. Its just a sexual orientation
SUPPORTING PEOPLE WHO ARE MENTALLY ILL IS NOT OKAY. THIS IS NOT OKAY, DEFORMING YOUR BODY IS NOT OKAY, THIS IS NOT A THING IN HEALTHY COUNTRIES LIKE SCANDANAVIA. TELLING SOMEONE WITH DYSPHORIA THAT ITS OKAY TO MUTILATE THIER BODY IS LIKE TELLING SOMEONE THAT IS SUICIDAL THAT THE SOLUTION IS KILLING YOURSELF, ITS WRONG AND AS A SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY WE NEED TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS AND ACTUALLY LOOK AT THEM REALISTICLY
"I'm angry....today"
great opening line
"the history of great lesbians" is probably a real Jessica Kellgren-Fozard video
And if it isn't, it should be :D
It is a series:)
She has a whole queer history series, it's awesome
Every time someone says it’s hard to be an “ally” I think about this video. It’s not hard. Get mad with us. Support us. Let us yell. Complain with us. Plug the amplifier for our mics.
Three years too late but Yk he’s bi right?
this aged poorly in the best possible way
While watching videos about the Owl House I keep getting ads for Matt Walsh ranting about how much he hates trans people
I’m sorry you had to see that
So THATS why I can't get CZcams to stop showing me effing PragerU adds!!!
And these effing "Trump is God" ads, too.
It gets worse, because of how monitization works on CZcams (see CGP Grey here czcams.com/video/KW0eUrUiyxo/video.html to learn more about the base system before the demonitization category) PragerU and propagandists like them are paying almost nothing for their ads.
On top of that, they embolden and help organize the trolls, muddy the waters, and take up advertising slots that the main audience of the channel will instantly click to skip, meaning they don't have to pay for those slots on top of the already lowered price.
Then, because the demonitization puts the voices speaking out against hate in a lower ranking for the recommendation algorithm, the balance is even further tipped in favor of the demogogues paying to spread hate.
I get those all the time! Aagh!!
Adblock seems to be your solution.
As a closeted LGBT kid who uses CZcams as an escape, this is DISGUSTING.
Hiya Batm-... I mean Mr. Wayne 😊😋
I know a lot of things about life suck right now, I've been there. I also know "it gets better" sounds like total bullshit. But it does, if you let it. You will find people who you have a hunch that you can come out to, sometimes they'll turn out to be dicks and leave, but that is their loss. But there will be people who will love you, who will behave like decent human beings and accept you for who you are. Having people like that in your life is worth all of it.
I sure know waking up next to my boyfriend every day is worth all the pain I had to suffer through before.
How old are you exactly ....
if you are like 10 you don’t know shit
I had gender dysphoria when i was a kid
I grew out of it because of puberty .
God satan not trying to start a fight or anything but you can experience gender dysphoria as soon as your brain grasps the concept of genders. That's how it was for me, a trans guy, and several of my friends.
God satan also the kid didn't specify what they are and you just kinda assumed. But again you can realize you're gay or bi when you're really young. You can be six and have a crush on a classmate of the same gender, look up what that means, and realize you're hella gay. Identity shouldn't be age gated.
Sometimes LGBTQ+ content creators just want to provide visibility for those like us. Demonitization and age restricting videos kills visibility for those who need it. Do better CZcams! Thank you Hank for unpacking this!
absolutely! well said
I can't begin to guess how hugely helpful it would've been if I could've seen positive, friendly videos (and text and audio) when I was a teen and young adult, struggling because I had gay feelings, and got bullied and didn't feel I had anyone safe to talk to or to, uh, figure it out with. (Boyfriend? It didn't even occur to me that a boy might want me for a boyfriend, or that I could have a boyfriend. All I knew was, I wanted friends I could talk to, and some friend who'd like to do what I wished I could do, just to figure it out, the same way the straight kids could with their boyfriends / girlfriends.) And getting bullied because people _said_ I was gay. All the bad feelings, questioning, the unhappiness and loneliness. -- So I am hugely grateful that now, adults and youth can put their stories out there, visibility, to let others learn how they feel, what they care about, to learn that hey, it just might be OK for me to be not straight. I might be able to find friends to talk to or someone to love and be loved by. imagine that, such a basic need, so completely squashed for so many folks, youth or older. Visibility is a good thing. -- And several very ordinary people are my heroes, just for being themselves and saying, sometimes in a very raw emotional way, sometimes in a very thoughtful way, how they really, truly feel, what they want, or just plain living their lives, being people. Things like that help me even now. I am still dealing with this, even though I've been out for years now. All that old stuff to unlearn or relearn, all those things to get over with and make a new, better life. It is an ongoing thing. And I still run into the negatives way too often out there in the real world, so I know it still affects all of us. So if just putting the word out there, being real, makes a difference for even one teen or adult, one questioning person, one potential ally and friend, then that is worth a whole lot for those of us who dearly need it, and it could just save a few lives.
sorry but by devinistion those items are all to some extend sexual in nature. so prefenting pre teens from stumbling unto those video's without parental guids might be a better than scaring children for live. that counting for the normal state of hetro sexualty as well.
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You growned boi. Be civil and respectfull. You already lost now.
Very well said! I'm only 14, but I've known I was different since I was around 7 or 8, and I was ashamed. CZcamsrs like Miles McKenna are what helped me figure out what I was. At first I thought I was bi (I'm not saying being Bi is a phase, because I know for most people it's not, but for me it was), partially because I was a) in denial and b) honestly had no clue and all I knew what that I liked gorls. So know I know I'm gay. Still, CZcamsrs are who helped me discover who I was, and it's upsetting that CZcams is trying to stop young kids and teens from getting information about themselves
I love when Hank takes on topics like this because he brings a good argument while at the same time showing how much he actually cares about what he's talking about in this case both his viewers and the lgbt community.
Isn't God's whole like, thing, that he loves everybody? I thought that was one of the major parts of the bible?
Right!!!! Also Christians telling others that they're going to hell for something they don't like when the Bible says that only God can judge!!!! hdjsksxn I hate it
I asked a Priest and a Rabbi about that. They gave a similar answer: imagine a parent finds out their kid did something really bad. Like, a parent found out their child killed someone. The parent can love their child with all their heart, but has to do something. So they send their child away. Hell is that away part. And in the Bible, hell is basically the absence of God, and in the Torah it's the pit where Jews would cremate dead bodies (Sheol).
Now, why is consensual sex between two men (the Torah specifically bans male homosexuality, but doesn't address female homosexuality) punishable by death, while raping a woman is punishable by a fine and offering to marry the person the man raped? There isn't a real satisfying answer.
As for the judgement thing, people say "that's only among people of the faithful," meaning you have to be "one of them" to not be judged. Which is kind of crazy.
That isn't most christians, that is a small part/older part. Christians who are younger and wiser use the term 'hate the sin, not the sinner'. Their actions are sinful but it doesn't mean they aren't good people.
@@corbin1513 oh you mean cherry pcik
@@km1dash6 So basically their belief is that any other religion that isn't catholic like buddhism, the people there will go to hell?
hank's outrage at the harm these ads might be causing to his community (to me) is actually kind of comforting. his passion in protecting his viewers and to being kind is great. he really cares about us 🎉
Kathari Kaplan if being gay is genetic then those ads will not affect them much.
Spider Salticidae, How do you figure exactly? Yeah these ads arent going to magically change our sexualities but in a society that shows and has historically shown LGBTQ+ people massive amounts of hostility, disgust, and outright hatred for no reason, it would stand to reason that a person who is struggling to come to grips with their sexuality in that environment could be psychologically harmed by content that's mission is to voice disgust, unacceptance, and outright hatred towards LGBTQ+ people. And there are multiple studies that have shown this.
That makes no sense. If I saw an ad that was against brown people I'd be pretty fucking pissed, especially if it was shown to me repeatedly.
There's this one historical sewing channel (Angela Clayton, she's great!) that regularly gets demonetized because the algorithm thinks her _fitting dummy_ is a naked person...
Oh, sewing, so controversial
Edit: I also know a few more great lgbt youtubers! Macdoesit is absolutely hilarious, Jessica Kellgren-Fozard is beautiful and disabled and lesbian
PoisonTheOgres Thomas Sanders is another incredible lgbt creator! He's gay and also has lots of lgbt friends that appear in his skits and videos.
PoisonTheOgres i love all of those people and it sucks that any of them get demonetized all the time
PoisonTheOgres I love Jessica! Just found her randomly a few months ago.
I wonder if she covered the fitting dummy in new fabric that is patterned if that would change for her (I've seen some really cute fitting dummies made in calico prints
oh jessica is the greatest!!!
This could all be fixed if youtube allowed content creators to pick which ads played before their videos. That really can not be hard to implement. Stop leaving it up to flawed AI and just let the creators themselves do it.
The problem sadly is also the fact that there are servers to pay for, employees etc that CZcamsrs don't necessarily see. Should there be something thought up of, yes but it needs to be more thought out.
Gabzo Avro Letting creators pick which ads play on their videos doesnt affect that.
Yep. Like you shouldn't be forced to let ads you don't like play on you videos.
Hey Hank, throughout my time as a highschool student, a college student (at Eckerd, ironically), and now a medical student (at Mayo, over in Minnesota), I've benefited so much from your various CZcams enterprises, mostly Crash Course, Sci Show, and Healthcare Triage. As a member of the LGBT community, I am also outraged about CZcams's willingness to throw the LGBT community under the bus as soon as money is at stake. So that is why this video convinced me to start supporting you on Patreon. At some point we must recognize that advertising-supported media is fundamentally incompatible with education because scientific truth is often unpopular. It is important that you are able to continue making good educational content that uses knowledge and understanding to lift up everyone in your audience, especially the impressionable young people that the ADF and their ilk are trying to target with their hate speech. So anyway, keep making awesome content!
The whole last bit about letting creators choose as well like... yes?!?! In traditional media this is all a two-way street, and it's always struck me that it's unfair advertisers can pick and choose all sorts of things but we have no power whatsoever
This is not traditional media, and youtube is a monopoly - they can do whatever they like
I'm a trans guy (and a PDS fan). I cannot express how much Chase's videos have helped me. Dealing with dysphoria and bigotry and societal erasure as a trans man is hard, and this platform is unmatched in its capacity to help people like me be educated and have a sense of hope and community.
Edit: typo
OnceUponAPiano Mate, chases videos have been a literal life saver and i wish more trans people (under 18s) had access to all of his things -o probably wouldn't know what a packer was if it weren't for him!
(Ps The PDS rocks)
Especially his Trans 101 series I was able to educate my friends who don't quite understand something!
OnceUponAPiano me too. His trans 101 videos are nice too, some of which I show my family and once I saw an anti-lgbt+ ad lately while watching it and it made me really angry tbh. I hope they fix this because if they don't, everyone it aggravates will be even more upset
Toby Wafflez it doesn't help some trans people's causes - If i tried showing my parents a vid that showed an anti LGBT+ Advert, it could just further their own beliefs and cause further rejection. The exact opposite reason for showing them the video in the first place
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CZcams has drastically changed so much in the last couple years and not in a good way. They aren't listening to their creators when something is broken and just creating even more problems. While at the same time they're doing things like their #ProudToCreate where they put on this facade that everything is perfect rainbows and unicorns.
@@DizietSma69 it’s both
it's gotten worse. i'm queer and trans and i watch a lot of videos related to that, and so i keep getting transphobic and homophobic videos (mainly youtube shorts, because i wouldn't click on something like that, whereas i cant help scrolling onto it), which obviously aren't the videos i want to be watching
Well, if Restricted Mode is anything to go by, I'm very excited for CZcams to wait a week before releasing a terrible statement, then back tracking and releasing a better one, then saying they'll do something about it, then in a years time it's still happening.
Rowan Ellis yeah they don't seem to care at all. I think they just would rather support our increasingly evil overlords while pretending to care about the little guy than actually do the right thing
Rowan Ellis
Rowan Ellis Oh shit that's hot tea
Rowan Ellis Nice name.
Hearing this news makes me want to flip over many many tables! Thank you Saint Hank for being such a valiant defender of the LGBTQ+ community. Praise be 🙏🖖🏳️🌈
Jesus Christ one of the only times I’ll listen to Jesus, thanks 😂
PRAISE BE 💙💚💛💜❤
PREACH
I love how it’s not only Jesus Christ; it’s *verified* Jesus christ
holly crap im atheist...
*RuNs*
What’s the point of homophobes funding *“the gay”*
Candy Gobbler I like the idea. Take money from those stupid prejudiced people and use it to fund something good.
I always click on ads that are clearly antagonistic to the videos like. Gotten make them pay for those CPCs.
@@Waitwhat469
Planting seeds in the lost. It's WELL worth it. Trust me. I KNOW. Blessings in Jesus!🙋
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shellbellbutterfly why do you care what other people do with their life? If they want to be sinful let them be sinful. Its their choice not yours. Maybe some people like to do things their own way and don’t care where they end up.
@Bughead & Choni
Jesus Is God and He promised that His WORD would NEVER pass away and since He made the whole entire universe and every function of everyone's body (with THE FATHER), I'm SURE you can comprehend how easy it is for Him to keep some information together in a book. Please think about that. I was reading THE BIBLE when I MET Jesus, so it's perfectly kept in context & quite powerful as the living WORD of God (Jesus is THE WORD made flesh to walk among us & suffer & pay for our sin. HalleluYAH!!! Blessings to KNOW Jesus!🙋
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As a chirstian and member of the LGBTQIA+ community these kinds of things wound me to my core. Pretty hate is still hate and hatred is EXACTLY EVERYTHING JESUS WAS NOTTTT ABOUT. It hurts my heart on the deepest level to see people pretend that they're trying to help by tearing people down instead of building them up in love.
Bless Hank's angry dad mode when it comes to all the beautiful LGBTQ+ creators on this platform and just generally informing people that this is happening, because now knowing that this is happening I'm right there at the same level of just extreme frustration with CZcams. I may not be a creator myself and at an age and level of self acceptance and love where I can ignore the BS in these gross preroll vids but I as a viewer don't want the creators I love to deal with this shit being put before their own video just on the front of how could youtube let their platform literally put hate before love and acceptance
who-what-videos-maybe can we just all make Hank our unofficial dad
Everyone is frustrated with youtube why because you cannot try and silence one group without it effecting every group
Couple of honest questions.
DO lbgt tubers put lgbt tag on their videos even if they dont talk about sexuality?
Also is there tag like cis or straight that get flagged same way?
Also isnt anything sexual automatically controversial/un-monetized on youtube?
Samuel Silver being LGBT+ isn't inherently sexual... same way being straight isn't either. So like tagging it either way shouldn't be an issue. Sexuality just describes who you are attracted to. Also this is about shitty people paying to putt their anti-LGBT propaganda in front content of users who are open about their sexuality and/or gender
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I have always thought you were awesome, but right now I have overwhelming amounts of love and respect for you. Thank you for taking such a strong and unambiguous stand on this issue. As a queer, disabled woman who makes content about adult sexuality, I'm rarely able to take advantage of monetization (although it seems videos about making your own toys are cool, but discussions about consent - and how important it is - are bad for advertisers). The idea that these hateful groups could be buying ad spots on my content is enough to make me sick.
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Wow. I don't understand who is making that call. Consent is important! Toys are a more controversial topic than consent, surely...
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“He is right! You can tell because of his mustache.”
I know this is a serious video and as a baby gay myself I appreciate it so much, but this line made me smile :)
as a now-no-longer-baby gay, any advice for those still very much in the “who am I?” phase?
@@carsonpearce5980 I don't know if you'll read this (a month is a very long time on the internet) but if you do, know that everything will work out. I'm an out gay man who grew up religious and it has caused me to question a lot about my identity. My advice is to love yourself enough to recognize that whoever you are, you deserve happiness and you deserve people who love and support you (in case you don't have that already). If things get hard, feel free to reach out to the Trevor Project and you can always ask questions on Reddit (going there was really helpful). Please know that whatever your identity happens to be, there are people like you (there's nearly 8 billion people on the planet after all). If you read this and still have questions/concerns, feel free to respond to this message.
@@VoteBidentoSaveDemocracy aw dude this was so nice to read!
nice strangers on the internet are the best thing ever, and the green brothers seem to be able to conjure them from thin air lol.
I’m very lucky that i have a very queer friend group that was able to wisen me up even before i realized i was bi and some flavor of trans (we’re figuring it out lol) and that i have accepting parents. ive come out to my mom, but not my dad yet just because he is a question asker and a problem solver and i dont really want to deal with either of those things rn, but i have no doubt he’ll be supportive when i do feel ready to come out.
loving myself isnt always easy but im lucky to have a bit of a head start and am doing pretty well, i think.
thanks for checking in, it was a pleasure talking, and best of luck to you :)
this is still happening! thanks for making this video, this has been happening with many of the videos I watch (a lot of them being you and john, and then lgbtq+ creators). Just realizing this is FIVE YEARS OLD and it hasn't been resolved is infuriating. It's terrible that these sorts of advertisements are even spread around in the first place :(
That lesbians who are dope video needs to happen.
Makoto Itoshi I’d watch it
Panda25732 Williams Nicholas Cage?
Atom Gallup ah yes, Nicholas Cage; history’s greatest lesbian.
...Julie d'Aubigny?
Vita Sackville-West.
If advertisers can pick the content they want to partner with, then creators need to be able to pick the advertisers they want to work with as well. When I see a Prager University ad in front of a Trevor Noah or John Oliver video, I know someone is gaming the system
Kesona Fyren rock on this is a great point.
Prager ‘university’ can go back to the pit of hell it came from. I hope TDS or LWT does a thing on them because that would be great, especially LWT since they could take 20 minutes to unravel that shitshow in painstaking detail, all with a British accented parrot.
Exactly, nothing underscores the laughably corrupt system of CZcams's advertiser pandering algorithms than those alt-right cockbiters at Prager-U popping up on content that's filled with, ya know, actual viable information and research. Someone desperately needs to shine a spotlight on those craven little McCarthyists.
Najimubu Nice to see there are people who can agree on some points with people who have different hobbies.
I'm kind of happy to see all these pissed off leftists. It's funny to me. Talk about first world problems.
Try being gay in Saudi Arabia. Then you'll have something to complain about.
I love how this ended on a tangible, actionable, reasonable SOLUTION. Thanks Hank. You're the best.
Update: it's still a problem, and it's really only getting worse
Given that this is pride month, and so many companies are going to be running "pride themed" ad campaigns, I'm going to say that any company who is doing that should be ok with having their regular ads on lgbtq-positive videos.
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Hank, thank you SO MUCH for making this video.
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Love seeing all these big trans influencers here! Love your videos
I've seen enough mattress ads to know that they are never relevant. I hate ads, I prefer sponsorships because it typically means the creator that I like endorses them, and is usually MUCH more relevant.
C2Lception Headbanging to some death metal??? You know what would go perfect with that? A PURPLE MATRESS....yeah, totally man!
@@wabbajackwabbajack6932 yeah, purple have got their fingers everywhere
Wabbajack Wabbajack okay but purple has incredible ads imo I watch the entire thing but not for any other company would I think of that
Oh you want to watch random videos. DONT WORRY. WE WILL KEEP PLAYING THE SAME KFC ADD TWICE AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN
@@nonic4vic600 ugh, I once got the same ad twice in a row. Like literally back to back. This isn't gonna convince me, or anyone. And it was unskippable.
They've been doing this for a while for left leaning news. The first time I saw a PragerU video was as an ad while watching TYT.
Back when I was in high school and closeted, there was this big corkboard in the hall covered in information on scholarships. Some of them were general, others were very specific. There was even one scholarship for LGBT+ youth. One day, a man - a parent of a student, I think - saw the LGBT scholarship and tore it down. There was an article in the paper a few days later about "the controversy" and a picture of the man in question looking stern and resolute. I think I should have felt angry, but instead I just felt tired and a bit sad. It was a small town and mostly conservative, so this wasn't exactly out of step with local values. These ads remind me a lot of that man.
Hank, thanks for getting angry. I don't always feel like I can, and I know I should. Otherwise, I'd just accept this as another thing to endure. I've traveled a bit and been out of the closet most of the time since high school, but old habits die hard.
stonescorpio , terrorist recruitment ADs would worry me more.
I'm so sorry you've felt this way.. my son had a hard time to, I try to be there, I hope there's someone who is there for you:(
Can we buy this as a pre-roll ad?
Dries007 Hell yeah! Start a gofundme for Hank to buy ad spots for this video...
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I know I’m incredibly late, but the fact that hank knows that his audience is mostly part of the LGBT+ community is awesome :))
Fun fact it’s 2021 and this is still happening 🙃
bro whyyyy 😭😭😭
2023 now. I got one a few weeks ago about how liberals are coming for your retirement. Like I'm pretty sure it's not the Democrats coming after social security.
2023 and its still happening
@@Klara_S. turning point USA has an AD on almost every video I watch. And it’s usually as vile as you would think.
@leahcarson1822 i stopped getting toilet paper usa ads
now its just all that "gender confusion" one
How can they demonetize political videos but allow political ads?
I hate that Google regulates (read: censors) creators so much more than it does its advertisers.
This issue is sooooo much worse today. I feel like I cannot watch any video about trans rights without getting an ad for some transphobic organization.
It seems interesting to me that CZcams likes to deem videos/content as controversial, but not advertisements. Funny how that works...
I think you could totally consider this educational in terms of vlogbrothers time rules and reupload there.
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I personally have gotten these ads and it was pretty frustrating. It hurts when I see horrible ads that dehumanize and just tear down LGBT people for being LGBT especially during pride month.
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I have taken note of the elevated output of such ads in certain months.
That’s a good way to put it. It hurts. My brother is gay and an amazing man who’s going to help a lot of people (he’s getting his master’s in psychology; we’re really proud) and it hurts to think of the intent in the messages, to make it seem like he’s... wrong, inherently, or in any way less. And, as a person of faith, it really bothers me to think of how many of the people who really respond to those messages use religion as a fig leaf for their bigotry and bias. It hurts, and it needs to stop. It is not okay and it never will be. I’m really sorry you’ve been impacted by this. I hope CZcams backpedals soon.
You do know people on the other side see ads promoting a lifestyle that is against their world view as well.
DeludoSui they're ignorant, me wanting to be accepted for liking guys? That isn't ignorant. Don't know why you're wanting to defend bigots tbh.
The James I understand I won't be fully accepted but I can still be sad about it.
So like... Can we put pro-queer ads in front of conservative's videos?👀
Yeah good idea btw... Hey CZcams do that one...
The main question is who is going to do that? If I’m a gay CZcamsr, I’m not gonna advertise my videos to the far right for fear they are going to come tell me to kms or give me death threats.
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i often develop very "feck off" type feelings towards ads that keep appearing on my feed. i just ignore ads on original content to support the makers, however i find ads make me sour towards products i see constantly advertised.
The problem with depending on algorithms and machine learning to not discriminate is that the algorithms are still dictated by humans. Machines don't solve our biases, they just absorb them.
Pro-LGBT content was specifically, manually blocked on Restricted Mode. We can't forget that.
"Machines dont solve our biases, they just absorb them" is probably the single best sentence about algorithm ive ever read.
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Also, algorithms like CZcams look for repetitions. If most videos controversial has "Gay" and "LGTB" or smthg like that in the title (Imagine title as "I Have Gays"), then the algorithm is gonna think that, obviously, Gay-> controversial + Not worth our money
And, also, it's hard to fix this types of algorithms. They learn throught data, and they keep learning without the creators having to do anything. Wich results in a machine you don't understand, and can hardly change bit by bit...
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I hope Defranco brings this onto his show. It's such a strong way to highlight something within the community and he can sometimes get reactions from CZcams HQ on this stuff.
Honestly, I think Hank mentioned PhillyD specifically so more big content creators will jump onto this message and MAKE youtube pay attention. I hope so anyway.
Pretty late here...but no, CZcams hasn't fixed it. I had to skip three anti-lgbtq+ ads on a video i specifically chose to watch because they were pro-lgbtq+.
I was literallly about to ask that, pretty unfortunate 😔
I've never gotten one of those horrible anti-trans Epoch Times ads on a video that didn't have something to do with LGBTQ+ rights or representation.
That’s good, because they suck to get, they’re not even good at selling the information they’re spreading
I’d like to know why there’s a like/dislike for ads if I can’t make them stop. I got the same ad for Scientology for weeks even after skipping and disliking many, many times. I’d love for the people I watch to have the option not to have ads that are controversial. That would be awesome so that it doesn’t look like the creator is supporting medications, political videos or other weird content.
I wonder if since you were engaging with the ad, that caused it to show up more even though it was negative engagement?
MissLilyputt you can get rid of it. There's an option to not see that ad anymore on the bottom left of the ad. It'll ask you why too.
RealToWonder even to the video ads? I've never seen that for prerolls?
any ad. click the little "i" in the circle labeled "why this ad". it will bring pop up page where you can click to stop seeing that particular ad.
I had similar problems with the same ads showing up specifically about things that upset me. Eventually I turned off the targeted ads setting and it stopped immediately.
I'm a bisexual youtuber, and honestly I'm too small to currently have ads on my videos anyways, but this is all kind of the worst. I hate going to look for community and instead hearing about how I don't deserve it.
I don't have much to say in response other than I identify with everything you commented. All I can say now is Bi Pride from one to another and no matter how horrendous the add is - you are ALWAYS WELCOME HERE.
Here's a sub to help towards that sub goal. 🌈🦄.
Katrina Eames completely agree! this (hateful ads) is so emotionally damaging for those of us who need community and come here to seek it
Thanks so much! Also I love the unicorn emoji - I didn't realize that was an option.
As are you! Thank you for reaffirming that I belong
This was from 5 YEARS AGO, wtf? The Situation has not changed one bit.
Not me, 5 years later, watching trans content creators and tumblr videos and immediately getting DailyWire ads... Actually it hasnt happened a ton in the last couple months but I do get the random PragerU bs.
When I first got one of these ads I tried looking for a way to flag or some sort of filter I could put these ads in but I found nothing. Why are advertisers allowed to choose where to show their ads but we aren't allowed to choose which kinds of ads we want to be exposed to?
Gilda Rodriguez I've been able to go to the channels themselves and block certain advertisers like that directly on a few things. Sucks trying to navigate that, but I haven't had any pro trump bullshit in months since I managed.
rainwasheseverythingaway thank you I’m going to try that next time I get an ad I don’t like
same thing with scary movie trailers. sometimes they are just as scary as the movie. and most of the time they are unskippable. even normal movie trailers you can skip. i don't want that when I'm watching youtube late at night before i go to sleep, or really any time. I've tried reloading, going back and rechecking the video, nope still getting horror movie trailer.
Because corporations are the ruling class with more rights than citizens. It's sad but the world we live in now.
Fighting Faerie Yesssss!! I used to have such a problem with that. (I'm highly susceptible to dreaming about whatever I watch before sleep, and if it's horror the movie will be happening in my dream, but it will be happening to me and it's awful.) I'm glad I'm not the only one who really dislikes the inability to skip through horror trailers.
And I agree, we should be able to flag certain potentially disturbing ads or be able to report hateful ads.
They're "defending freedom" by attempting to restrict the freedom of others. How ironic
As a gay man I appreciate all your support would’ve been wonderful but I was growing up
Your reaction to this made me cry tears of happiness. This is NOT okay, thank you for talking about it 💕
Can we get an option to see who is advertising on our videos? I think that would be fair and honest. People think that advertisements are endorsements from a channel, it happens with TV, so why not youtube? Even though we as creators have no control over advertisements
also you make content that keeps youtube alive. If youtube pisses off the creators, they will end up with bland content that no one will want to watch. They have to think about the people that MAKE what youtube SELLS.
+edt49er You are actually free to contact coca cola, ford, etc and any well established advertisers to hammer out a deal to have their ads play on your videos and bypass youtube's adsense. However if you aren't going to do this or you are so insignificant that it isn't worth Ford's time to sit down with you for direct advertising, don't forget you are still a small non-established fish. Be grateful for what you get because otherwise you sound like the beggars can't be choosers subreddit.
D K well right now I’m not even that with current youtube because I don’t have 1000 subs. I was in a huge growth spurt that was throttled when CZcams changes it’s monetization policy.
D K also feel free to share my content with that subreddit if you want to, I could use the views
+edt49er Sorry I wasn't trying to imply I was going to put you on blast on that subreddit; I don't even have a reddit account. All I meant was that each community gets this sort of crap to a certain extent. I think a strong comparison I can offer you to illustrate that at the end of the day we are in the same camp; we're allies against ads which by coincidence don't meet our beliefs: vegetarian/vegan channels are getting McDonald's ads which are obviously in conflict with channels who advocate for animal welfare. I think to lessen any hurt you and your friends may be feeling is to look at it in the following way: money is required to sponsor these anti-gay ads and personally I'd just laugh them off because at the end of the day; an ad isn't going to change your orientation so the joke is on whoever wasted their money trying to convince you otherwise. You know what I mean?
Hank: I’m angry
Me: RANT! RANT! RANT! RANT!
Pheobe Owusu and yt users gave Hank the biggest soapbox ever
he ranted for 13 minutes...
The worst part about homophobic people (beside the blatant HOMOPHOBIC part obvi) is that you can’t argue with these people (I mean you CAN but it’ll probably get you nowhere) because their facts and beliefs on sexuality aren’t based on truth. It’s difficult to bring logic to the table when arguing with someone who has beliefs that are more or less fabricated (bc of the whole translation error with le Bible), and with someone who has probably already made up their mind.
even if the translation was good, Bible has very immoral opinions so ... 😛
THANK YOU! ❤️ I’ve been hit by demonitization due to my lgbt videos but also given community guideline strikes... it’s all so messed up.
Kalvin Garrah
As someone who is questioning and struggling with my identity.
Thank you.
With all this bs I can't ask you to stay on CZcams, but I can beg you to keep making content. Your work is amazing, and has inspired not just me, but countless others way beyond your subscription count.
Keep pushing
We the viewers have your back.
And thanks again.
Because if it weren't for the likes of you, I might not have been here writing this post.
Oh Hank/#TrumanBurbank ..you so silly !
Mheret Tatek
Have you seeked professional help?
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Yep. I'm in a lot better place now, thanks for asking.😜
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glad to hear it mate. Keep ya chin up
I like the idea of Creators restricting what type of ads are showing up. It could be accompanied by a monetization calculator. That's the next shift. Reputation connected with advertisers.
Do you realise how effective this video would be if it were on Vlogbrothers rather than a side channel? People don't care if it's hugely edited, it will get seed and mainstream news media will most likely pick up on it and shine a light on this issue. Dude, you could really help our cause
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What? side channel?... oh this is in hankschannel! damn I was certain this was on vlogbrothers, but yeah, maybe you should reupload it there?
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I just watched a SciShow talk show on sexuality and got an ad for some BS anti-trans docudrama on THIS VIDEO
Yeah, I've seen Trump ads on 'Anti-Trump' videos. Meaning the algorithm might be trying to do a balance act between sides. Its kinda despicable. CZcams's going downhill, it's got nothing to do with individual creativity anymore nor expression of news and subjective thought. Now its "OH! Did this video hurt your feelings? Well don't worry, the opposite side has an ad!
That's not quite how it works. It's more "what ad will the viewer likely watch through and pays us the most. BAM". And in the end it puts more money in the creators pockets as well.
I just commented on that as well! It drives me nuts. Talk about feeling like he's being forced down your throat. I used the you tube option that lets you say you aren't interested in the ad but it doesn't quite work. :/
It doesn't work that way. If it sees Trump in the title its going to give you an ad about Trump. Its not that deep.
Evil King but does that not make most sense? Ads are about persuasion. Why persuade people on his side when you can reach to an audience that isn’t supportive to try to change that opinion
Shouldn't you be able to allow or deny advertisers? Sort of like the reverse of the way advertisers can select the videos they wants to advertise on?
If you can't now, they should add this ability.
Michael Taylor I think this would be the ideal companion to advertisers being able to choose what subjects they want their ads to play with. This is the closest mirror to the mutual, contractual relationships in the old media.
Except CZcams's content creators don't own CZcams and don't pay the bills when it comes to keeping it's servers running. Would it help CZcams to sometimes receive feedback on their ads should something extremely polarizing get out there? Perhaps, but that doesn't mean that adding a feature to disable any and all of it's regular ads is going to help them. At the end of the day CZcams is a business, not a charity.
The thing is, Joseph, without the creators there would be no CZcams. There would be no content for Google to monetize to pay bills or keep those red hot servers running.
If I had a popular channel...filled with MY content that I created, I'd be completely pissed off if YT allowed an ad to appear anywhere near my content if that ad violated by own ideologies or values.
No one is saying it's a god damn charity. We're talking about giving creators control over the ads that are displayed in connection with their content. If you can't understand the value in such an idea, then you're on the wrong side of this.
apparently, that feature existed, but its been so well hidden.
I'm not sure he meant it's a good thing. It's just how things are. The fact that creators are the reason for YT success seems to have absolutely no bearing in YT recognizing that or treating them fairly. Creators have little to no power in the relationship--except big ones who, were they to leave, could actually take significant eyeballs, brand value, and money with them. That's why it's such a good thing that Hank speaks out about these things, even though he's not directly involved.
i say we retaliate with progay ads on homophobic or conservative videos
Don't forget the muslim vids too.
Fyre Goldfox not all conservatives dislike LGBT people
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Are you that stupid? Do you think all conservatives go around with Anti lgbt+ flags
Random BlastOff you can't blame him since they label these opinions as conservative voices
Fyre Goldfox Please note that “homophobic” and “conservative” are NOT necessarily synonymous. My opinion that the government is too big or my thoughts on how our foreign policy should be conducted has nothing to do with my opinions on sexuality. (Actually do not understand why the government defines or licenses marriage...this is where I get libertarian.)
Gotta love those pragerU ads on scishow
As a genderfluid pansexual who's seen how hard it's hit especially trans creators like Aaron ansuini, who honestly helped me through some incredibly difficult times in a world where who I am is still seen as political or somehow fantastical instead of dealing with ignorance every day over something inherent, among others thank you for using your large platform to help and taking a hard stance on this.
I'm trans and I appreciate you advocating for the family. Love you
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Go team lgbtqa nerdfighters!
Edit: lgbtqa. Left myself off the list
Ethan my favorite subgroup
Ethan, that's some next level asexual/aro erasure
Lol, I dont know why im like this
Probably because most people stop at Q.
“and he’s right. You can tell because of his moustache” I’m crying. Bless angry dad hank and his incredible sarcasm and activism
You're right, angry dad Hank is the best!!
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*Netflix lend an e a r*
(Edit) not to take away from the amazing message of this video, this is an important video and we need to use our power as the viewers to change this.
Five years later. Sill a MASSIVE problem
not only do i get anti-lgbt ads, i'm constantly recommend anti-lgbt videos (why i regret transitioning, sjw compilation, i keep getting recommended videos from some guy who hangs out on the street and "argues" with people about their beliefs and usually features anti-lgbt views and insults people who are in the lgbt community, and so many more)
i'm bisexual and i haven't gone a day since i began watching lgbt content without seeing something anti-LGBT related.
panic! at the everywhere I kinda enjoy the sjw videos.
panic! at the everywhere Same. I thought it was really strange and couldn't figure out why... I'm really disappointed..
Probably the same algorithm that puts hateful content on activists' front pages, like in Pinterest.
Your recommendations are based on your watch history. All you've done is told us the kinds of videos you watch, announcing to the world what a bigot you are.
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It's usually to correct people; it happened once, and then I got swamped. Then I thought of this and stopped clicking. It's taken awhile to work.
I don’t understand why people have such a problem with the concept that it’s really shitty to hate people based on things about themselves that they can’t change. Thank you hank for using your platform to talk about this issues.
10 things white men need to stop doing in 2018
Oh I see what you did there because a person has no control over the color of their skin or their gender...just like sexuality...yup...
This is still happening today. How terrible. When did hate speech become acceptable?
please do a video about dope lesbians
There is this from extra credits: czcams.com/video/6QaBYLAOaSY/video.html
Update: this video was in my subscriptions 30 minutes ago. Now it's gone. How... poetic.
Same thing happened to Chase's video on the subject. I guess CZcams is just trying to sweep this all under the rug.
I have a channel on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict asking Israelis and Palestinians to answer people's questions on the conflict, their societies, cultures, etc. CZcams demonitizes often based on their own political considerations - for example, a video of Palestinians being critical of Palestinian society is often demonitized but a similar video of Israelis being critical of Israeli society is not. Most of the time, I cannot figure out what specific phrase, word or issue they believe is not appropriate for advertisers because they don't tell you.
Also, an issue like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict gets people who are supporters of one side and haters of the other. So even reporting something benign about one of the sides will make people on the other side angry because they view the conflict in zero-sum terms.
I've seen your videos! As a religious Jew myself, I totally understand the auto-hate people spew about the issue. As a very strong liberal I have understood both sides, and think that your content is very eye-opening on showing how little both sides understand the other, but in many cases want or believe very similar things.
I'm surprised to see your comment here, I've watched a bunch of your videos in the past. Super interesting content.
Corey Gil-Shuster Thank you for sharing! Your videos seem super interesting too. /All the way from Sweden
plfp did nothing wrong.
But I see.
Came to this video after the recent supreme court case overturning the legal responsibility for businesses to provide service to queer folk like me.
Nothing has been done. And it's only gotten worse. Thank goodness YT ad sense is sure I'm a wealthy business owner because I like computers because otherwise I'd be swimming in hate.
They need come up with a system like Tinder where advertisers and creators can match with each other. The creator would fill out a form explaining what type of content they produce and an advertiser would file a list of requirements for them to advertise. If they match up the ad goes on the videos.
Thank you for this, H. -G
Thank you Hank, for being a true ally!
Love CZcams recommending this video to me immediately after showing me a transphobic ad on a vlogbrothers video, just great timing there
I wish I could like this 100 more times. Hank, you’re amazing.
The ad I saw before this video was a weird propagandist pro-fascism (?) rant from The Daily Wire. I am baffled by the way YT's advertising algorithm works. I watch gardening videos, Vlogbrothers content, the occasional board game playthrough, and book reviews. I have no idea what I have googled to trigger these ads, but surely there has to be a better solution than the current one?
Hannah Lou I'm pretty sure those ads seem to be intentionally targeting anyone they can because they just want eyes regardless of the eyes opinions.
It's like prager u and ty lopez. They just want as many eyes as possible so they spread their ideology and make money.
Same here
The Daily Wire is stupid but come on it’s not fascist
I think they care more about age and gender than anything else. I got a fancy sunscreen commercial. CZcams has decided that I'm getting old so on top of all the stupid make-up commercials I'm getting inundated with "anti-aging" crap. All I watch are political videos and book reviewers but because I have breasts I must be freaking out about whether I'm pretty right? And apparently stupid enough to think magic exists in the form of moisturiser.
Thanks for talking about Chase's recent struggles (albeit briefly) because it's so unfair that all his hard work is at risk of being deleted.
"if you want this country to be run by Christian law, well you haven't read the constitution". If only you knew how relevant this is in 2022 🤦
Five years later and, from an audience-member's point of view, nothing's changed. I still see pro-authoritarian ads on liberal and leftist channels I watch. I still see homophobic/transphobic ads on LGBTQIA+ channels I watch. Fortunately for me, most of my CZcams experience is on my laptop and I have a very effective ad blocker on my browser. But my phone shows me the ugliness that's still there. As for ad blockers hurting content creators, I hate that, but I'm not wading through bigotry to get to content. Should I ever earn more than a bare minimum wage I have a list of creators whose patreon pages will feel the glory. Until then, for me, it's ad blocker all the way baby, and I will not apologize for it.