another good one Tom .. love the stuff ur no1 .. i hope you gave whoever done those rad tails and put no boss white n hemp .lol old plumer here tom , i hated tail leak .rad off and taill out . uggg . f da . love watching and artist at work .. keep it up tom . im a fan big itme from IRL.
Nicely done Tom. I used to fit gas and oil boilers with an engineer I used to work with till I got too busy with my own work. I’d love to get into doing oil boilers on my own but I never got past my level 2 due to a cock up with my college not telling us a few things that hindered us moving on.
It's not hard to gey your OFTEC mate, I did mine with Worcester when I first did it, it was a 4-day course, 2 days training and two days assessment. Oil does feed me a good amount of work, thanks for watching mate
Great job mate. Yeah nothing worst external work in the winter. Great idea on the sleeve maybe put the 10mm inside the 22 before you bend it. Keep up the good work mate 👍🏻
I have a great tip for any other plumbers, if your soldering in a real awkward space and need a heat mat, get tin foil and fold it several times it works a treat if you can’t get a heat Matt in! Tried it for the first time the other day
Great little tip that mate, I have used a closure plate before, they work really well and don't stain new paintwork like some heat mats, thanks for watching mate
Nice one Tom , everything seems to be a struggle when working outside in the cold , tools and materials and the body just doesn't like it... Cheers mate.... 👍
Thanks for the support as always mate, this time if year can be tough, I know it's not really cold yet but it does get to you when you never seem to warm back up, have a great weekend mate 👍
Bad idea putting the fill-loop inside the boiler case Tom, as you found out when it chucked it down with rain! Also how is the customer going to top up, get the lid off everytime, I don't think so................ I always use a remote loop inside the building with a gauge ( even with the grant combis when its already built into boiler at factory) Just makes life easier for everyone. 🙂
Fair point mate, I do like a fill point inside the boiler when servicing them as it does make life easier, hopefully this one should be all fine, thanks for watching as always
I've done it a few times in the past, obviously a fully buried oil line looks the best but some jobs you have to get over things, I think this looked good and it does help protect the pipe, thanks for watching mate
Good video very tidy pipework inside the boiler casing. I’ve never heard of liners for 10 mm copper oil lines as it’s rigid why is that is the copper that bit softer? Did the oil tank come with the filter fitted? Cheers very interesting video enjoying your superb skills.
The copper used on oil lines is soft copper, inserts are a fairly recent edition to the regulations, most plumbers don't bother with them but they should be fitted just to eliminate any potential risk of crushing caused by overtightening. The filter is supplied with the tank but I fitted it, I use PTFE and heldtite on the connection, they do send some with the fitting kit supplied with the tank, thanks for watching mate
Hi mate, the drain was dead but with a bunded tank the location would have been fine anyway, a new septic tank has been installed on the opposite side of the building, thanks for watching 👍
Some advice please!! My tank is in good condition but the valve and filter looks badly rusted. A few people have told me never to replace valves that are fixed to the tank. Is it normal to replace the whole tank if the valves see corroded? Hope this doesn't come across like a silly question - but wondering what you would do? Thanks in advance!!
We don't tend to use glycol with standard heating systems, there is a frost stat inside the boiler which will turn the boiler on the event of cold weather. We only tend to use glycol on heat pump systems over here, thanks for watching
Hi mate, I was just worried about it being trod on, sleeving it in 22 just gave it a little more protection, you don't have to do it like that but I just thought it would be best on this job, thanks for watching as always mate 👍
Hey Tom, have you used Tuffa Fire Proof plastic tanks and any issues with sign offs or anything? I’m looking to get my old tank replaced but not all engineers want to offer Tuffa to me but they suit my circumstances in my garden… cheers.
They are generally the ones I install, I have never had an issue with them, I don't seem to win many jobs where I price for a fire rated tank though, they are a bit more money and I think I must get under priced by installers willing to fit a non-fire rated equivalent
It depends on the job mate, if the supply is sub gravity the installation of a tiger loop is often required, this one will be fine as like you say the tank is so close, thanks for watching mate
Hi bud the small bowl filter that you put on at the tank with the isolation valve does it have a bleed off? Just wondering if i changed it how it would bleed unless i did it at the boiler cheers mate 👍
Hi mate, there's no bleed on the filter, normally when you change them it won't introduce enough air to cause a problem, you sometimes just need to bleed them through at the boiler but ofton the boiler will fire straight back in, thanks for watching 👍
Fair point Paul, it was the best choice of boiler on this job as the hot water was only feeding a couple of basins and a kitchen sink, I much prefer unvented cylinders with a regular boiler but a combi was pefect for this job, thanks for watching as always mate 👍
Definately seeing your confidence grow in front of the camera, it's hard talking to no one I actually used to live stream a while back and that was talking to people can only imagine how weird it is getting used to talking to literally no one haha! Cracking video as always Tom, made me chuckle with that oil line making you look like an idiot :P I'm curious though, I was always taught to put some paste around the actual olive and not around the pipe, why is it you put it around the pipe? also get yourself a little deburring tool the circle red ones, great for annoying nuts/olives that won't go on
Thanks for the support Josh, paste around the oiive is the right way mate, it sometimes weird talking to yourself when filming, it will probably take me another 100 videos before I get fully used to it but that's all part of learning, I'm still enjoying making the content and I'm humbled to have so many people who support me each week, I sometimes feel I don't say thank you enough but I am so grateful to everyone
Another good 👍 video lawd 😊.. enjoyed your efforts, have a great weekend... heading out to do a back boiler Ts ..won't light ! At least it's inside job ☺️
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Tom, another cracking episode - I enjoy a lot of plumbing and heating engineer content - but you're definitely up there with my favourite watches like @MJTiffPlumbing @UrbanPlumbers and others like @AllenHart999 etc. Keep at it - your subscribers will start to rocket!
I hate them, I kept having an issue with one in a garden centre i look after, I replaced the top feed tube and valve assembly but the boilers kept drawing in air and locking out randomly, they would run for weeks and then you would struggle to get the oil back through, apparently it had always been an issue so in the end we fitted a new tank with a bottom outlet and never had another problem
@Plumb Like Tom sounds very familiar. I had a customer with a tank beside a river, so had this tank. They never mentioned there had always been lock out issues, so I went in blind. New hoses, new tigerloop, new fittings, burner strip down. It would run for a couple of weeks before locking out, but far too often. Couldn't change to bottom outlet because of river. Lost customer.
I thought OFTEC wanted compression drifted fittings on copper oil lines Tom?? Mate, you really need a 10mm Pipe Slice & a Reaming Tool, that was painful watching that. As others have said; a Remote Filling Loop would be better👍👍 WB are still shit boilers, but that External Oil one looked OK😮 It’s a over 20 Years since I done any oil boilers, I’m amazed you still use a Smoke Pump😂😂 On that note, an chance you can do an oil boiler commissioning for the hard of thinking viewers👍 Cheers Tom love the video, keep em coming fella👍👍
Thanks for watching as always mate, OFTEC state compression joints with inserts are a perfectly acceptable way of joining oil lines. I have a few 10mm pipe slices but find they all crush the pipe slightly, so the inserts won't go in, my local merchants only sell inserts to me, and one other plumber so most obviously don't bother using them. I can do a video on a full commission. The Worcester boilers are OK, I have been thinking about fitting a few Grants, I have one to do tomorrow which is going to be a really tricky one, I probably won't have to much time to film a lot as it is going to be a long day, but I will try and get a few shots if I can
15.44 love the way you deburr the pipes so all the swarf falls down the pipes.
Yeah, that’s what I thought goes down the pipe and get stuck in the filter, a problem in the making
Ya seem to be rushing, calm down , a bit of care and attention and you don't need to back to leaks, nice vid lad.
Great work, Tom. Love the copper sleeved 10mm oil line.
Thanks for watching as always mate
Great install as usual, well done and thanks
Thanks for watching as always mate 👍
Spot on install as always fella.
Thanks for the support as always mate 👍
Impressive, as always.
Thanks for watching Tim
And thanks again for your help on that problem i was stuck on. Absolute legend
No worries mate, thanks for the support as always 👍
Really enjoyed this one Tom. Great to see the thought you put in for now and the future
Thanks for watching Mark
Great work and video as always.
Thanks for watching as always mate 👍
Nothing worse than soldering pipework outside when it's cold and damp. Cracking video Tom as always 👍💪
Thanks for the support as always mate, this time of year is tough when working outside
Another nice installation there Tom and a fantastic film as always. Have a great weekend and take care. 👍👍👍
Thanks for the support as always Chris, I'm bathroom fitting this weekend, I'm just trying to get jobs finished off for Christmas for my customers
Another great job Tom, well done mate
Thanks for watching as always mate
another good one Tom .. love the stuff ur no1 .. i hope you gave whoever done those rad tails and put no boss white n hemp .lol old plumer here tom , i hated tail leak .rad off and taill out . uggg . f da . love watching and artist at work .. keep it up tom . im a fan big itme from IRL.
Thanks for the support as always mate, the rad tail leaks were a pain
Nicely done Tom topjob. Already lookin forward to the next one.
Thanks for the support as always John, have a great weekend mate 👍
More oil line and tank installations please. 😁
I don't do them all the time but I will film the next ones I do, thanks for watching mate
Another top job Tom. Im enjoying watching your uploads. Im out of the trade at mo as need to resit my gas.
Thanks for watching John, have a great weekend mate 👍
Nicely done Tom. I used to fit gas and oil boilers with an engineer I used to work with till I got too busy with my own work. I’d love to get into doing oil boilers on my own but I never got past my level 2 due to a cock up with my college not telling us a few things that hindered us moving on.
It's not hard to gey your OFTEC mate, I did mine with Worcester when I first did it, it was a 4-day course, 2 days training and two days assessment. Oil does feed me a good amount of work, thanks for watching mate
The hat is back 😁
Great job mate. Yeah nothing worst external work in the winter. Great idea on the sleeve maybe put the 10mm inside the 22 before you bend it. Keep up the good work mate 👍🏻
I wished I had done it that way, it probably would have been easier, thanks for watching as always mate 👍
Interesting video Tom. Maybe a small pop up gazebo for these outside jobs in winter?
That would be a good idea, in the past I have just set up a tarporpine, thanks for watching as always 👍
I have a great tip for any other plumbers, if your soldering in a real awkward space and need a heat mat, get tin foil and fold it several times it works a treat if you can’t get a heat Matt in! Tried it for the first time the other day
Great little tip that mate, I have used a closure plate before, they work really well and don't stain new paintwork like some heat mats, thanks for watching mate
Soak all the woodwork, water lasts long enough to get fitting done.
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Thanks for the support as always Glyn
Nice one Tom , everything seems to be a struggle when working outside in the cold , tools and materials and the body just doesn't like it...
Cheers mate.... 👍
Thanks for the support as always mate, this time if year can be tough, I know it's not really cold yet but it does get to you when you never seem to warm back up, have a great weekend mate 👍
Bad idea putting the fill-loop inside the boiler case Tom, as you found out when it chucked it down with rain! Also how is the customer going to top up, get the lid off everytime, I don't think so................
I always use a remote loop inside the building with a gauge ( even with the grant combis when its already built into boiler at factory) Just makes life easier for everyone. 🙂
Fair point mate, I do like a fill point inside the boiler when servicing them as it does make life easier, hopefully this one should be all fine, thanks for watching as always
👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿 Tom
Blimey, a flux brush. You are getting posh 🙃🤣🤣🤣
I know mate, that flux brush has lasted me 14 years, it's only had 14 new heads and 12 new handles, thanks for watching as always mate 👍
Something I’ve never thought about thread 10 mil through then bend 22🤔
I've done it a few times in the past, obviously a fully buried oil line looks the best but some jobs you have to get over things, I think this looked good and it does help protect the pipe, thanks for watching mate
Finally found someone on CZcams that does stuff similar to me never know what’s coming next.
i normally avoid using the flimsy supplied filter and isolating valve. I prefer a screwed gate valve and a Crosland oil filter.
Good video very tidy pipework inside the boiler casing. I’ve never heard of liners for 10 mm copper oil lines as it’s rigid why is that is the copper that bit softer? Did the oil tank come with the filter fitted? Cheers very interesting video enjoying your superb skills.
The copper used on oil lines is soft copper, inserts are a fairly recent edition to the regulations, most plumbers don't bother with them but they should be fitted just to eliminate any potential risk of crushing caused by overtightening. The filter is supplied with the tank but I fitted it, I use PTFE and heldtite on the connection, they do send some with the fitting kit supplied with the tank, thanks for watching mate
Great video as always, but is that tank enough distance from the drain?
Hi mate, the drain was dead but with a bunded tank the location would have been fine anyway, a new septic tank has been installed on the opposite side of the building, thanks for watching 👍
Some advice please!! My tank is in good condition but the valve and filter looks badly rusted. A few people have told me never to replace valves that are fixed to the tank. Is it normal to replace the whole tank if the valves see corroded? Hope this doesn't come across like a silly question - but wondering what you would do? Thanks in advance!!
Do you have to use glycol in the system when there's an outdoor installation?
Regards, Third Generation Boiler Man.
From Windsor, New England, USA.
We don't tend to use glycol with standard heating systems, there is a frost stat inside the boiler which will turn the boiler on the event of cold weather. We only tend to use glycol on heat pump systems over here, thanks for watching
Hey, great video thank you. Can you tell me, does the oil tank have to be away from a building by 1.8m ? Thanks.
It has to be 1.8m from anything combustible on a building, the closest point that is combustible are normally the eaves, thanks for watching
@@PlumbLikeTom thank you!
Hi Tom. When I do oil lines I just used the microbore with Munsen clips. How come you have used a copper pipe acting as a sleeve? I'm curious. Cheers
Hi mate, I was just worried about it being trod on, sleeving it in 22 just gave it a little more protection, you don't have to do it like that but I just thought it would be best on this job, thanks for watching as always mate 👍
lead free solder hate the stuff lol
It's all I've ever used to be honest, thanks for watching as always mate
Good work mate love the idea of the sleeving the oil fair fucks have a good weekend 🍻
Thanks for watching as always mate, have a great weekend 👍
Hey Tom, have you used Tuffa Fire Proof plastic tanks and any issues with sign offs or anything? I’m looking to get my old tank replaced but not all engineers want to offer Tuffa to me but they suit my circumstances in my garden… cheers.
They are generally the ones I install, I have never had an issue with them, I don't seem to win many jobs where I price for a fire rated tank though, they are a bit more money and I think I must get under priced by installers willing to fit a non-fire rated equivalent
Cheers Tom!
Yous not raise tanks off ground abit to eliminate oil not getting to boiler. It will be ok on that job as its very close.
It depends on the job mate, if the supply is sub gravity the installation of a tiger loop is often required, this one will be fine as like you say the tank is so close, thanks for watching mate
@@PlumbLikeTom yeah cant beat a good tigerloop as it can be a lifesaver.
Hi bud the small bowl filter that you put on at the tank with the isolation valve does it have a bleed off? Just wondering if i changed it how it would bleed unless i did it at the boiler cheers mate 👍
Hi mate, there's no bleed on the filter, normally when you change them it won't introduce enough air to cause a problem, you sometimes just need to bleed them through at the boiler but ofton the boiler will fire straight back in, thanks for watching 👍
@@PlumbLikeTom cheers mate love all your videos thanks for getting back to me bud take care
Must these been done when buying a house with an oil tank?
Oil combination boilers have very little space can be a nightmare to work on
Fair point Paul, it was the best choice of boiler on this job as the hot water was only feeding a couple of basins and a kitchen sink, I much prefer unvented cylinders with a regular boiler but a combi was pefect for this job, thanks for watching as always mate 👍
Definately seeing your confidence grow in front of the camera, it's hard talking to no one I actually used to live stream a while back and that was talking to people can only imagine how weird it is getting used to talking to literally no one haha!
Cracking video as always Tom, made me chuckle with that oil line making you look like an idiot :P
I'm curious though, I was always taught to put some paste around the actual olive and not around the pipe, why is it you put it around the pipe? also get yourself a little deburring tool the circle red ones, great for annoying nuts/olives that won't go on
Thanks for the support Josh, paste around the oiive is the right way mate, it sometimes weird talking to yourself when filming, it will probably take me another 100 videos before I get fully used to it but that's all part of learning, I'm still enjoying making the content and I'm humbled to have so many people who support me each week, I sometimes feel I don't say thank you enough but I am so grateful to everyone
Another good 👍 video lawd 😊.. enjoyed your efforts, have a great weekend... heading out to do a back boiler Ts ..won't light ! At least it's inside job ☺️
Thanks for the support as always mate, hop you got on OK with the BBU, take care Jock
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no worries mate, I will try and do a video showing the more business and paperwork side of things, thanks for watching 👍
@@PlumbLikeTom thanks
Hi Tom was this a Combi ?
Yes mate, it's a oil combi, the boiler is a Worcester heatslave 2, thanks for watching
™️ CRACK ON WITH TOM merchandising 😍😍😍😜😜😜
I like it Paul, thanks for the support as always mate 👍
How much do you charge for installation. How do you agree with the customer on the price? I really want to know you.
Tom, another cracking episode - I enjoy a lot of plumbing and heating engineer content - but you're definitely up there with my favourite watches like @MJTiffPlumbing @UrbanPlumbers and others like @AllenHart999 etc. Keep at it - your subscribers will start to rocket!
Thanks for the support mate
Oil tanks with top outlets are the worst to deal with. Poor flow characteristics and possible air traps.
I hate them, I kept having an issue with one in a garden centre i look after, I replaced the top feed tube and valve assembly but the boilers kept drawing in air and locking out randomly, they would run for weeks and then you would struggle to get the oil back through, apparently it had always been an issue so in the end we fitted a new tank with a bottom outlet and never had another problem
@Plumb Like Tom sounds very familiar. I had a customer with a tank beside a river, so had this tank. They never mentioned there had always been lock out issues, so I went in blind. New hoses, new tigerloop, new fittings, burner strip down. It would run for a couple of weeks before locking out, but far too often. Couldn't change to bottom outlet because of river. Lost customer.
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I thought OFTEC wanted compression drifted fittings on copper oil lines Tom?? Mate, you really need a 10mm Pipe Slice & a Reaming Tool, that was painful watching that.
As others have said; a Remote Filling Loop would be better👍👍
WB are still shit boilers, but that External Oil one looked OK😮
It’s a over 20 Years since I done any oil boilers, I’m amazed you still use a Smoke Pump😂😂
On that note, an chance you can do an oil boiler commissioning for the hard of thinking viewers👍
Cheers Tom love the video, keep em coming fella👍👍
Thanks for watching as always mate, OFTEC state compression joints with inserts are a perfectly acceptable way of joining oil lines. I have a few 10mm pipe slices but find they all crush the pipe slightly, so the inserts won't go in, my local merchants only sell inserts to me, and one other plumber so most obviously don't bother using them. I can do a video on a full commission. The Worcester boilers are OK, I have been thinking about fitting a few Grants, I have one to do tomorrow which is going to be a really tricky one, I probably won't have to much time to film a lot as it is going to be a long day, but I will try and get a few shots if I can