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Komentáře • 726

  • @froggore52
    @froggore52 Před 20 dny +532

    Signing over a deed before getting your name off the loan is so exceptionally stupid I can't even wrap my head around it.

    • @jfkst1
      @jfkst1 Před 19 dny +10

      Yeah I can't even understand how that's possible unless he's co-signed.

    • @shanep2760
      @shanep2760 Před 19 dny +29

      Exactly what I was going to say 🤦 now he has all the liability with no claim to the property

    • @TMPS93
      @TMPS93 Před 19 dny +10

      I made the mistake of "shacking up" as Dave would say. My ex did that and then tried to stonewall me on the refinance to squeeze money out of me. Needless to say the quit claim deed was signed and fortunately my mistake was much less expensive than it could've been.

    • @scubasteve9566
      @scubasteve9566 Před 19 dny

      He's just plain dumb...

    • @Ruth-vy1qj
      @Ruth-vy1qj Před 19 dny +4

      Extremely dumb it not take care of business

  • @WolverineIncognito
    @WolverineIncognito Před 20 dny +170

    I love when Dave lets people have it!
    THIS is why you don’t do married people stuff with someone you’re not married to!

    • @Lon1001
      @Lon1001 Před 19 dny +1

      This is the exact same process as divorce, only one less step of not also having to get a divorce decree.

    • @289Mustang67
      @289Mustang67 Před 19 dny +11

      @@Lon1001 If they had gone through court to get a divorce, the odds that this guy would be in this situation 16 years later are pretty low.

    • @BlueDauntless
      @BlueDauntless Před 19 dny +3

      @@Lon1001The difference is he would have had this taken care of years ago. How many years later is he still dealing with this? Way too many!

    • @babblesp1367
      @babblesp1367 Před 19 dny +1

      @@BlueDauntlessisn’t that when you get a lawyer and force a sale? I get the feeling this guy is trying to do it on his own and he’s dealing with it all. Get a lawyer to help force it.

    • @user-iu1gj5wc5z
      @user-iu1gj5wc5z Před 18 dny

      Don't wanna pay most likely. Notice Dave is free. Why pay a lawyer?😂

  • @alanolson6913
    @alanolson6913 Před 19 dny +58

    As Judge Judy said : there are real estate courts, family courts, mental health courts but not courts for people who shack up. Never purchase anything that way. It will wreak havoc in your life and it has a ripple effect.

  • @bigcahuna42366
    @bigcahuna42366 Před 19 dny +68

    I'm so glad that when I purchased my house as a single man, the property is entirely in my name, both the mortgage and the property deed. I have no money problems nor relationship problems.

    • @trainsandlocomotives
      @trainsandlocomotives Před 19 dny +1

      Facts! That’s the better way of buying a house. I did the same thing. Some states have messed up divorce laws and buying married isn’t as “safe” as people put it out to be.

    • @MrClassicmetal
      @MrClassicmetal Před 19 dny

      That's the way to do it.

    • @Dividendflywheel
      @Dividendflywheel Před 17 dny +1

      Big step to a seven figure net worth. Regardless of your gender. Own assets YOU work for. Majority of the population are financially irresponsible or have no wealth plan

  • @carey8250
    @carey8250 Před 19 dny +106

    I always say, don't be a nice guy... be a kind man. Huge difference.

    • @UTP504
      @UTP504 Před 19 dny +6

      Right, agreed💯%. Nice and niceness always gets you F over and taken advantage of. Be kind and considerate, but set firm boundaries.

    • @carey8250
      @carey8250 Před 19 dny +2

      Amen

    • @Coover90210
      @Coover90210 Před 18 dny +2

      @carey8250 fyi, I will be stealing this. :-). Love it!

    • @CaptainQueue
      @CaptainQueue Před 17 dny +3

      Wish I knew this 50 years ago, both with family and especially co-workers. Some, not all, will treat a nice guy like a doormat and ATM.

  • @SANLEOR
    @SANLEOR Před 11 dny +29

    *Amazing. “How to build wealth, do this..”*

    • @SANLEOR
      @SANLEOR Před 11 dny

      the first step to acquire wealth is figuring-out your goals with heIp of a financiaI pIanner, and foIIowing through with lnteIIigent ideas; you will acquire wealth in no time and also enjoy the decision of managing your money.

    • @SANLEOR
      @SANLEOR Před 11 dny

      I made amazing decisions that changed my finances (over 1M in 2yrs) through my financiaI pIanner. Got my 3rd house Iast month and will retire soon.

    • @SANLEOR
      @SANLEOR Před 11 dny +4

      Whosoever tries this sureIy acquires wealth. Get to her..
      ELlZABETH GREEN HUNTS...

  • @catherinekoch3735
    @catherinekoch3735 Před 19 dny +30

    My son thought it would be a good idea to buy a house or condo with a friend. Thank God i talked him out of it.

  • @GAFB1122
    @GAFB1122 Před 20 dny +154

    For the one sided haters. Dave GIVES the same advice to both men and women and that is DO NOT BUY A HOUSE WITH SOMEONE YOU ARE NOT MARRIED TO.
    So just stop with the crying, Dave says this to women and that to men.

    • @kbanghart
      @kbanghart Před 19 dny +18

      It's not usually Dave who is the issue, it's the toxic / troll comments from weird guys

    • @GAFB1122
      @GAFB1122 Před 19 dny +1

      ​@@kbanghart💯💯

    • @handleyobusiness
      @handleyobusiness Před 19 dny +5

      ​@@GAFB1122 And don't have kids by someone you're not married to!

    • @Jenda-ld8dj
      @Jenda-ld8dj Před 11 dny

      This is the best advice: Don't get married, Don't get into a contract of any kind with anyone whom you are or would be romantically involved with.

    • @MichaelHollen
      @MichaelHollen Před 8 dny

      Dave is an equal opportunity tough love coach. 😂

  • @bettysmith4527
    @bettysmith4527 Před 20 dny +246

    OMG, this guy was SUPER stupid to allow them to take his name off the deed and not the loan! You cannot get any equity, you no longer own any part of it!

    • @jfkst1
      @jfkst1 Před 19 dny +6

      Yep the only benefit is that he does get the credit boost if payments are consistent and if credit is even useful to him.

    • @getinthespace7715
      @getinthespace7715 Před 19 dny +26

      He is going to have to sue them. They know he is a push over.

    • @percivalgooglyeyes6178
      @percivalgooglyeyes6178 Před 19 dny +5

      Yeah, pretty dumb, and he now makes a pretty high income? How does this happen.

    • @kiturselassie813
      @kiturselassie813 Před 19 dny

      ​@@jfkst1lol

    • @lagoonlane
      @lagoonlane Před 19 dny

      Dumb @ss

  • @BlueBoxGirl1837
    @BlueBoxGirl1837 Před 20 dny +97

    SPEAK THE TRUTH DAVE!
    People don’t want to hear it because they ALWAYS feel “they are” the exception 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

  • @Ojisan642
    @Ojisan642 Před 19 dny +138

    This guy is insane. Sixteen years he’s been dealing with this? He should have called a lawyer day one.

    • @babblesp1367
      @babblesp1367 Před 19 dny +8

      That’s what I thought. Force a sale. Split the equity. Done. Neither of you get the house.

    • @Jane-rh7tc
      @Jane-rh7tc Před 19 dny +5

      he was probably too cheap to hire a lawyer

    • @gabe1254
      @gabe1254 Před 18 dny +3

      @@babblesp1367the home probably didn’t have any equity 16 years ago.

    • @Dividendflywheel
      @Dividendflywheel Před 17 dny +2

      He should have involved a lawyer immediately 3:45. Bought house with parents of baby mama. Aaoouuch

    • @profribasmat217
      @profribasmat217 Před 12 dny

      @@babblesp1367well I guess you didn’t understand the part that he deeded the house over? He is on the loan not the house.

  • @Fred2-123
    @Fred2-123 Před 19 dny +105

    As dumb as I am, these calls make me consider myself to be a genius.

  • @dangerzone24
    @dangerzone24 Před 19 dny +14

    Everything about this guy is a lesson in what not to do. Kids without being married, buying houses without being married, and who knows what else with all the pauses and hesitation in this guy's voice....

  • @georgeclarke2258
    @georgeclarke2258 Před 19 dny +24

    I learned this the hard way many years ago. I was living in CA where real estate was expensive and interest rates were high at the time. A friend and I went in together and bought a house. Long story short, it turned into a
    complete nightmare, ending in foreclosure

    • @kbanghart
      @kbanghart Před 19 dny +3

      Well don't feel too bad, after the housing bubble lots of us went through foreclosure

    • @georgeclarke2258
      @georgeclarke2258 Před 19 dny +2

      @@kbanghart I’m fine, I already owned another home in Va by the time the foreclosure was processed

  • @lexmax08
    @lexmax08 Před 19 dny +10

    He has $50k saved up. I just happen to have the deed to the Brooklyn Bridge and will sell it for $50k. This poor guy seems like the perfect customer.

  • @SplashJohn
    @SplashJohn Před 19 dny +8

    The stupidity here is absolutely off the charts. And in the bigger picture, SO many people ruin their lives by ignoring the most basic rule for life: Don't have sex with someone you're not married to!

  • @troisquarts3659
    @troisquarts3659 Před 20 dny +43

    Same goes for siblings. If things go south you'll spend the rest of your life dealing with them at family stuff, which makes it hard to be objective.

    • @kbanghart
      @kbanghart Před 19 dny +1

      I'm glad I have just one sibling, and she has common sense too. I feel bad for large families with all the problems.

    • @troisquarts3659
      @troisquarts3659 Před 19 dny +1

      @@kbanghart I have no problems. Clearly enforced boundaries and a big mouth mean I'm family-problem free, it's just the rest of them who have/had a problem with me.

    • @jackiekjono
      @jackiekjono Před 19 dny +6

      you have to know what your siblings are like, though. I think dealing with a home with siblings could work - just not with my siblings.

    • @kbanghart
      @kbanghart Před 19 dny

      @@troisquarts3659 lol

    • @kbanghart
      @kbanghart Před 19 dny +2

      @@jackiekjono true. My sister and I have pretty much divided up what we want of my parents stuff without problem. I DID catch her husband taking something out to their car once real quick like they were trying to be sneaky, but I saw what it was and it's no big deal. It helps if most parties aren't stuck on material stuff.

  • @SusanEmilyRyanHancock
    @SusanEmilyRyanHancock Před 19 dny +545

    2years ago I paid off my mortgage and I can still remember my husband sending me a text message to say we were lucky making and taking the decision that's getting us $35K every month. Paying the mortgage felt like a noose lifted off our neck after 6 years of worry. Marry before buy a house together folks

  • @Bethelgal42
    @Bethelgal42 Před 19 dny +8

    If you aren't married, no shared finances, no shared bed, no shared home. Let's make morals popular or normal again. If you aren't ready to get married, then you aren't ready to play house either. It's a better way to live.

  • @TheDjcarter1966
    @TheDjcarter1966 Před 19 dny +47

    How is someone making over $100k/year this dense...keep the mortgage but sign over the deed???

    • @alessia005
      @alessia005 Před 19 dny +5

      That’s a low income for San Francisco

    • @sidwhiting665
      @sidwhiting665 Před 19 dny

      Commitment-free sex.... need I say more?

    • @stitchy_linn
      @stitchy_linn Před 19 dny +8

      Book smarts don't equal street smarts.

    • @w12p67
      @w12p67 Před 19 dny +2

      That's the salary of a fast food worker in San Francisco

    • @sblijheid
      @sblijheid Před 4 dny

      Many doctors are idiots when it comes to money.

  • @ljljlj9263
    @ljljlj9263 Před 19 dny +35

    He was supposed to mention the daughter in the beginning lol 🤦🏾‍♀️

  • @silentnot4812
    @silentnot4812 Před 20 dny +77

    See a lawyer.

    • @Helibeaver
      @Helibeaver Před 19 dny +5

      Lawyer can't force it, their name is on title

    • @jfkst1
      @jfkst1 Před 19 dny +10

      No lawyer can fix this stupidity. What idiot signs over a title without getting their name off the mortgage? It's taking all the risk without most any of the benefits.

    • @marckowtko4073
      @marckowtko4073 Před 19 dny +2

      If he wants an equitable interest in the property title. he needs to speak to a lawyer to see if he can get a equitable lien against the existing deed to compensate over the loan payment assuming the in-laws don't want to be amicable.

    • @jeanlaubenthal698
      @jeanlaubenthal698 Před 19 dny +1

      Time is money so just pay for a lawyer.

    • @adamseidel9780
      @adamseidel9780 Před 19 dny +1

      To do what, have coffee? He’s stuck. No recoirse.

  • @rbraxton00
    @rbraxton00 Před 19 dny +150

    I won’t marry you! Let’s buy a 30 year mortgage instead! 😂😂😂🙄🙄🙄🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @SplashJohn
      @SplashJohn Před 19 dny +9

      Exactly! The stupidity is OFF THE CHARTS!

    • @SplashJohn
      @SplashJohn Před 19 dny +16

      And let's add to the off-the-charts stupidity: "I won't marry you. Let's buy a 30-year mortgage instead. AND let's have a child!!!" smh

    • @sidwhiting665
      @sidwhiting665 Před 19 dny +4

      @@SplashJohn yep, "playing house" as we call it. The committment-free sex is just too tempting, I suppose... and of course their "love that will last forever" ... until it doesn't.

    • @michaelmurphy2112
      @michaelmurphy2112 Před 19 dny +6

      @@SplashJohn It sounds like the kid was 2 years old when they bought the house (House bough in 2008, kid is 18, so was born in 2006). So they were "planning" a life together, but got the order wrong and kept digging a hole, then, shortly after buying the house, they broke up. There's a whole lot of "don't do this" going on with that guy.

    • @Ruth-vy1qj
      @Ruth-vy1qj Před 19 dny +1

      😂😂😂😂 🤦‍♀️ 🤦‍♀️ 🤦 🤦‍♂️ that a powerful statement

  • @Emma-nm1qk
    @Emma-nm1qk Před 19 dny +6

    Never buy a house with someone you aren't married to!
    I made that mistake in my twenties and it's one of the biggest regrets of my life.

  • @kemonephillips
    @kemonephillips Před 19 dny +7

    Tell them that you will stop paying the mortgage if your name isn't on the deed or you will let the home go into foreclosure and nobody gets anything. $400k in equity is no joke to throw away...

    • @jefflewis4
      @jefflewis4 Před 18 dny +1

      If he stops paying the mortgage, the homeowners can just sell the home, agree to give the bank the remaining value of the loan and keep the rest for themselves. If they sold the home at market value, they'd walk away with 200k+, he would get nothing. But that would get him out of the loan.
      I suspect that's why he pushing them to refi, instead of pushing them to sell.

  • @bernicefritz8693
    @bernicefritz8693 Před 19 dny +10

    He says he wants to "move on" with his new family. I wish they would have asked if he was married to this woman or did he repeat the same mistake?

    • @lindacowles756
      @lindacowles756 Před 19 dny +2

      I was wondering that, too. What "new family"?

  • @PepeToTheMooon
    @PepeToTheMooon Před 20 dny +62

    This guy set himself up for a disaster. Yikes. The in laws are gonna do whatever they can to keep him on that loan. They need him.

    • @katyedwards3935
      @katyedwards3935 Před 20 dny +12

      They're not his in-laws cuz they aren't married.

    • @katkong281
      @katkong281 Před 20 dny +6

      ​@@katyedwards3935 Dave points that out in the video. Yeah it's a mess

    • @katyedwards3935
      @katyedwards3935 Před 20 dny +3

      @@katkong281 I know. Dave's the best😀

    • @johnc2438
      @johnc2438 Před 19 dny +1

      They don't need him; they need his wallet! 💰

    • @Dividendflywheel
      @Dividendflywheel Před 17 dny

      YES. They used him. Rich naïve boy friend. They have NOT been able to refi the loan in 16 years. 😊😊😊 Nothing has changed. Need to know about child support scenerio too.

  • @missj5564
    @missj5564 Před 20 dny +44

    Never purchase a house with a person that is not your spouse. I wonder how the person that he is involved with now feels about all of this.

  • @danielr951
    @danielr951 Před 20 dny +31

    He had one life time commitment that no law can break and another one that needed a new contract to be broken but god forbid they go to the court and get a marriage license

    • @mle011
      @mle011 Před 19 dny +9

      Right? Let’s have a kid and be connected together for the rest of our lives, and let’s get a 30 year mortgage and be connected for the next 30 years, but God forbid we get married, that’s too much commitment.

    • @missj5564
      @missj5564 Před 19 dny +1

      @@danielr951 Talk about insanity.

    • @BlueDauntless
      @BlueDauntless Před 19 dny +4

      @@mle011I will never understand this mentality. People are so willing to have children together, but not get married. Kids are forever! They’re the bigger commitment, but marriage scares them?

  • @2009Holleywood
    @2009Holleywood Před 19 dny +8

    Has he been paying child support? That might be why the grandparents are not signing over the house because that might had been the only other leverage they had

  • @lysolownway6941
    @lysolownway6941 Před 19 dny +7

    He will have to take them to court as it is clear they have been taking him for a ride and do not want to give up their gravy train.

  • @kimmieshimmie
    @kimmieshimmie Před 19 dny +24

    Would like an update as to how this unfolds.

  • @USMCHelloKitty
    @USMCHelloKitty Před 19 dny +35

    Never buy anything together unless you’re married.

  • @BE2001
    @BE2001 Před 19 dny +6

    I can't think of anything he could've done to make this worse. He did every wrong thing possible.

  • @James_Hough
    @James_Hough Před 20 dny +364

    Never buy a house with someone you are not married to. Period. No exceptions. If you are not committed enough to each other to get married, why would you think that you should tie your lives together through a piece of real estate?

    • @reese85
      @reese85 Před 19 dny +10

      I think there’s exceptions for everything but that’s just me

    • @ballinforlife9
      @ballinforlife9 Před 19 dny +8

      Completely agree, the only thing I will add is that if you’re someone with a lot of assets, buying a house might be less risky then marriage. If you get married then divorce, you’re at risk of losing way more then just your home, however if you only bought a house together then at worst you’re out the money you spent on the home because your spouse would have no legal claim to any of your other assets

    • @MrMustangrick
      @MrMustangrick Před 19 dny +5

      Big mess. Not smart.

    • @bjkarana
      @bjkarana Před 19 dny +29

      @@reese85 Every caller thought _they_ were the exception. And then they learn.

    • @reese85
      @reese85 Před 19 dny +2

      @@bjkarana every caller doesn’t represent the world

  • @outsidethebox262
    @outsidethebox262 Před 19 dny +8

    He shouldve started with the daughter bit... that would be the big factor on the parents decisions. Theyre pushing the loan as a way to force obligations to him.

  • @coolaunt516
    @coolaunt516 Před 19 dny +16

    And the plot thickens. That's an understatement.

  • @rightsaidmatt2632
    @rightsaidmatt2632 Před 19 dny +19

    Imagine how hard they were all laughing at him when he signed over the deed without forcing a refi.

  • @sminthian
    @sminthian Před 19 dny +5

    Why would the parents do anything? He gave the house to them, and he pays the mortgage payments, it's the perfect scenario for them.

  • @DetangledbyDesign
    @DetangledbyDesign Před 19 dny +22

    The fact that he left out their daughter until he had to mention it suggests there's more to this story..

    • @zanneizzo8113
      @zanneizzo8113 Před 19 dny +2

      They never even asked who was paying the mortgage.

    • @dahliaherrod4301
      @dahliaherrod4301 Před 19 dny

      ​@@zanneizzo8113he's on the loan. He's paying. That's why he's crying to Dave now for help

    • @DetangledbyDesign
      @DetangledbyDesign Před 19 dny

      @@zanneizzo8113 That too.

    • @MissDuke2012
      @MissDuke2012 Před 19 dny

      Maybe. The question is about getting out of this dumb financial situation; a kid is not relevant to that at all.

    • @jefflewis4
      @jefflewis4 Před 18 dny

      @@zanneizzo8113 They didn't have to ask. The entire loan is his, he's making all the payments. he screwed himself having his name taken off the deed. Now he has a mortgage, but no house.

  • @pierre6176
    @pierre6176 Před 19 dny +17

    Important question was not asked; who has been paying for the mortgage?

  • @StevenOllis
    @StevenOllis Před 17 dny +22

    From $37K to $45K that's the minimum range of profit return every week I thinks it's not a bad one for me, now I have enough to pay bills and take care of my family.

    • @DouglasBrentwood
      @DouglasBrentwood Před 17 dny

      Please where and how did you earn that much.

    • @JerryHartford14
      @JerryHartford14 Před 17 dny

      I would really love to know how much work you did put in to get to this stage.

    • @LeytonMax7
      @LeytonMax7 Před 17 dny

      Please how do I go about it
      I'm still a newbie on investment trading and how can I make profits.

    • @StevenOllis
      @StevenOllis Před 17 dny

      All thanks to LEO CLIFFORD

    • @StevenOllis
      @StevenOllis Před 17 dny

      **Leo Clifford is a licensed broker and a FINRA AGENT here in the States.*

  • @Playingwithproxies
    @Playingwithproxies Před 19 dny +5

    Should have seen a lawyer before you took your name off the deed

  • @joeriveracomedy
    @joeriveracomedy Před 19 dny +11

    Are these people paying the mortagage? Question 1.

  • @fastmaker9091
    @fastmaker9091 Před 19 dny +8

    Also, don’t have a kid with somebody you’re not married to

    • @THEENERGYINHALER
      @THEENERGYINHALER Před 3 hodinami +1

      What's weird is it's actually easier to have a baby out of wedlock then buying a house together out of wedlock

  • @TMPS93
    @TMPS93 Před 19 dny +4

    Made the mistake of "shacking up" years ago. My ex signed a quit claim deed then immediately moved out. Like 2 months later she tried to stonewall me on a refinance to get some equity in the house (which she lived in for 4 months tops and never paid a bill for.) If she hadn't signed that deed first it could've been much worse.

    • @sidwhiting665
      @sidwhiting665 Před 19 dny +2

      How could she stonewall you? She let go of her claim with that Deed. Ergo, she has no say on what happens to the property any more.

    • @TMPS93
      @TMPS93 Před 19 dny

      ​​@@sidwhiting665I understand that, issue was she was uncooperative in the refinance but we managed to get it pushed through since the deed was signed and she wouldn't cooperate in the refinance process.

  • @liberty4392
    @liberty4392 Před 19 minutami

    I know somebody that co-signed on a car loan. The automobile is now wrecked and they are having to deal with insurance and all the fun on this. I cannot imagine how terrible it would be co-signing with someone else on a mortgage in San Francisco! San Francisco has very expensive real estate. Do not co-sign UNLESS you are willing to pay. 95% chance you will be paying your money for their loan with a co-sign.

  • @sidwhiting665
    @sidwhiting665 Před 19 dny +16

    This story is EXACTLY why you don't "play house" with someone you aren't married to, regardless of how much fun the free nookie is. What a mess!

    • @linuxsurfer2002
      @linuxsurfer2002 Před 19 dny +3

      And as he's finding out, it's not "free" after all.

    • @user-yz8ms5uy3c
      @user-yz8ms5uy3c Před 19 dny

      Spouses also leave and screw up your life.

    • @Hilius8
      @Hilius8 Před 13 dny

      ​@@user-yz8ms5uy3c Sure, but at least when that happens a judge will disentangle all the finances and impose a resolution, instead of this guy having to go into a private negotiation with the person he just broke up with (and her parents!) over a six-figure asset

  • @TG-cr6fb
    @TG-cr6fb Před 19 dny +2

    What about his daughter? Did he raise her? Did he pay child support? Where is going to go when the house is foreclosed?

  • @llm5726
    @llm5726 Před 19 dny +2

    My parents went in on a mortgage for my brother and his wife. Ten years or so later she divorced him. He had a crappy attorney and had been brainwashed for years by her, so she got everything in the divorce, including his portion of the house (since he wanted to keep a roof over his kids head), and he kept paying the mortgage. So my parents were still partial owners (as brother didn’t tell anyone until divorce was finalized). Brother remarried, (even after my dad told him he was a glutton for punishment😂). Eventually brother and wife2 got tired of paying mortgage, and eventually gave ex wife money to get him off mortgage. Parents never got a dime back, even when she sold the house.

  • @lindacondilli6494
    @lindacondilli6494 Před 19 dny +8

    Did he say who is paying the mortgage payments?

    • @JakeStewart1343
      @JakeStewart1343 Před 19 dny +2

      It's being rented out by a rental agency to random renters 😂

    • @linuxsurfer2002
      @linuxsurfer2002 Před 19 dny +2

      @@JakeStewart1343 That doesn't answer the question. Someone still has to pay the mortgage.

  • @bjkarana
    @bjkarana Před 20 dny +28

    Of course San Fran, where all the "smart" people keep trying to reinvent the wheel.

    • @kbanghart
      @kbanghart Před 19 dny

      Of course, a comment about "San Fran" (just say San Francisco) from a hater

    • @MrBrewman95
      @MrBrewman95 Před 19 dny +10

      @@kbanghartI think you can figure out that your city sucks. 😂

    • @bjkarana
      @bjkarana Před 19 dny +3

      @@kbanghart I don't _hate_ San Fran; I just disagree with the far left politics that currently control it.

    • @kbanghart
      @kbanghart Před 19 dny

      @@MrBrewman95 my city, Rancho Cordova, is fine.
      San Francisco, which I visit about once a month, is fine.
      But for folks like you, it's all a "disaster". How do you even function in daily life?

    • @bjkarana
      @bjkarana Před 19 dny +5

      @@kbanghart Ok, so you visit once a month and just ignore the stuff you don't want to see. Good for you.

  • @GAFB1122
    @GAFB1122 Před 20 dny +11

    Regarding this guy, he is a MESS!! Another person that is sharp in their career and makes a strong income but is lousy at managing their personal life. I have no respect for that type.

  • @jacobsmithjr
    @jacobsmithjr Před 19 dny +5

    They are not your in laws!

  • @tyrecarmon20
    @tyrecarmon20 Před 20 dny +37

    Thats on him. I dont feel sorry for him

  • @TechTusiast
    @TechTusiast Před 18 dny +2

    If you make 150-200K, how is it possible you only have saved 50K?

  • @porchpirate4835
    @porchpirate4835 Před 19 dny +5

    Worst part is that the title has to be changed prior to the bank removing signers from the mortgage. I had this problem with getting my dad removed from my mortgage. Had to update title first and it was backlogged like crazy at the time. Decided to quit my job and renovate my house to sell as I didn't like my job. I told my dad I wouldn't leave him on the mortgage for long and now without a job I couldn't qualify for the mortgage, so my only choice was to fix my place up and sell it. During the 2 years it took me to complete, my dad had many mental breakdowns due to various reasons and blocked contact with me 1 week before I finished. It was a nightmare. Thankfully after what seemed like an eternity (about 1-2 months), he was persuaded to sign by my mother. Never ever in my life would have thought that would have happened and I hope my story can be a warning as to the risks of co-signing, more specifically - joint signing (meaning both parties are on title)

    • @vanna13v
      @vanna13v Před 19 dny

      You didn't have 1 choice of course. You could have also gotten a new job & went that way. Hope you paid everything in the meantime I assume. 2 years of mortgage saved up to be without a job for they long seems hard to believe.

    • @porchpirate4835
      @porchpirate4835 Před 19 dny

      @@vanna13v the second job is certainly true, but I was feeling like investing my energy into something different at that time. Unfortunately for me, I spent the previous two years before that renovating my second home that was 2.5 hrs away (solely owned!) and sold it myself too! I didn't make much money on it because it took so long and I had 1 whole experience point in home renovations at that point. But it was a great savings plan and one hell of a learning experience.

  • @JasonGroom
    @JasonGroom Před 19 dny +1

    I'm assuming they have been paying the mortgage for 16 years as well, maybe I'm wrong, but that's the impression I got. That means they are due a lot more than $50,000 for the house. They are likely due their original $40,000 plus half of the paid off value of the home, and any equity it has gotten in 16 years from market growth. If he sues them he is only due the loan balance in a forced sale since he had himself removed from the deed. He doesn't own the home at all.

  • @ninamatthews8747
    @ninamatthews8747 Před 19 dny +7

    What kind of idiot would take their name off of the title before the loan??

    • @sidwhiting665
      @sidwhiting665 Před 19 dny +1

      You might (or might not) be surprised. As a landlord, I see people do similar dumb stuff all the time. Couples shack up together and both sign the lease, then one of them (usually the better off financially of the two) moves out. Later, the remaining tenant stops paying and I go after both of them in court. The one who moved out acts SHOCKED that they are still on the hook for the rent and damages.
      Tenant: "But I moved out!"
      Me: "Yeah, so what? That doesn't break the lease. That means you just lost any benefit to being on the lease."

    • @catherineskis
      @catherineskis Před 19 dny +1

      I don't think that they understand about how Quit Claim Deeds work. My daughter didn't understand, she did it to make the divorce more amicable, and now she can't buy another house. She didn't ask me, otherwise I would have told her.

  • @aftersolo
    @aftersolo Před 19 dny +3

    I had the exact same problem after a divorce. Bankruptcy fixed it and forced me to save up rather than running off credit. Was a great learning experience.

  • @itchyisvegeta
    @itchyisvegeta Před 19 dny +2

    I wont even do that with my wife's parents, much less a girl friend's parents.

  • @johncameron4194
    @johncameron4194 Před 19 dny +3

    Then he mentions the daughter 😂

  • @kellyinfanger9192
    @kellyinfanger9192 Před 9 dny +1

    Dave, of course, is right about the financial situation. The whole situation underlines one of the most basic corrupting aspects of our society.
    Immorality
    No sexual relations except between a man and his wife accompanied with lifelong fidelity, and most of these problems go away. Instead, marital fidelity has completely left our public discourse.

  • @destinystup6675
    @destinystup6675 Před 19 dny +8

    He did a quit claim deed and left his name on the mortgage note. Geesh that was the worst move!

  • @tyanneh1
    @tyanneh1 Před 19 dny +3

    Has he been paying for the house, or have they? I don't think he would have much right to the equity in the home if they've been paying the mortgage, but it is in his name. This is a screwed up situation. Yes, NEVER buy a house with someone you're not married to, or if you do make sure it there is some kind of agreement done through a lawyer about how everything would be split up, etc if your partnership goes bad.

    • @dahliaherrod4301
      @dahliaherrod4301 Před 19 dny

      Why would the grandparents pay if it's all in his name?

    • @tyanneh1
      @tyanneh1 Před 13 dny

      @@dahliaherrod4301 Unless it was part of his child support, he should just sale it and the mother should pay, I thought he said he put the deed into the grandparents names, so I thought it fair they or the daughter pay for it, instead of him. The best thing to do would be to just sale it since the grandparents can't get financing on it. It's a miracle having all these years, it hasn't caused a bigger financial crisis.

    • @dahliaherrod4301
      @dahliaherrod4301 Před 13 dny

      @@tyanneh1 he can't sale it because the deed isn't in his name. That's the issue. He just has the mortgage in his name. So now he has to convince the grandparents to put the mortgage in their name

  • @Playingwithproxies
    @Playingwithproxies Před 19 dny +5

    Free house of course they don’t want to get a mortgage in their name 😂😂😂

  • @a.c.7069
    @a.c.7069 Před 19 dny +2

    Oh... so, at 3:15, we hear the rest of the story: The ex-girlfriend is the mother of his daughter, who just graduated high school. Reading between the lines:
    He must've left when his child was 2. He never married the mother, so he never had to pay alimony - only child support. On the call, he never says he made payments on the mortgage. His ex or her parents must've been making the payments. Maybe he didn't fight hard to remove his name because his daughter was growing up in the house. Now, his daughter is 18, the house has renters, and he has a "new family."

  • @zachblackburn5149
    @zachblackburn5149 Před 19 dny

    This call makes me feel SOOO much better about myself

  • @katyedwards3935
    @katyedwards3935 Před 20 dny +1

    Do whatever it takes, even if step 3 is required.

  • @deltaechoproductions
    @deltaechoproductions Před 19 dny

    Copyright law is pretty simple...in the US, if you write it, it is your property. The issue comes into proving it, you can "register" to show public proof of the work

  • @danielmccann4199
    @danielmccann4199 Před 17 dny

    As a kid being practical about money management, I put some in the bank and some in my pocket
    When my pocket was
    empty, I went home ; )
    Takes a certain individual to manage their money properly
    It’s not easy, but you have to be determined and set standards for yourself

  • @robbytherob
    @robbytherob Před 19 dny

    How much money should you have saved up by these milestones; 30, 40, and 50. Appreciate the advice!

  • @dankimble3217
    @dankimble3217 Před 19 dny

    Would it make a difference as to who was making the payments on the house? Was John there then? Was he paying child support for the grandchild ,or getting a free ride?

    • @Fred2-123
      @Fred2-123 Před 19 dny +1

      The bank does not really care who makes the payments. I bet that his ex-GF & her parents have been making the payments.

  • @Stephen-Harding
    @Stephen-Harding Před 17 dny +3

    Who pays this guy 150K to 200K? I'd like a job with that company. And he only has 50K in the bank.

  • @danielmccann4199
    @danielmccann4199 Před 17 dny

    I’ve been watching parts of the Ramsey show for the past couple years
    I’ve learned a couple things but very little
    Most of the things you teach are
    actually just part of good parenting
    This baby step thing I don’t know where I got it, but I’ve lived like that all my life long before I ever heard of you
    I bet most of these people you talk to their parents had the same problems
    Poor money management
    But glad you’re helping them. Somebody need to straighten them out.
    ; )
    Live below your means
    I’ve been saving money since before I got out of high school

  • @J-GMORE
    @J-GMORE Před 19 dny +2

    I’ll buy a house with you too lmbo 😂

  • @user-kr9zb2ng8i
    @user-kr9zb2ng8i Před 19 dny +1

    Things can turn out pretty badly when a wife wants to divorce her husband and take the house. But buying a house with a woman you are not legally married to is just plain stupid.

  • @johncameron4194
    @johncameron4194 Před 19 dny +2

    Never buy a house with someone you’re not married to.

  • @emaldon7
    @emaldon7 Před 19 dny +2

    So much stupid yet this crap is so common as well.

  • @danayarbrough1494
    @danayarbrough1494 Před 18 dny +1

    Bless his heart

  • @jasoncatron1039
    @jasoncatron1039 Před 19 dny +2

    How is it that 90% of the callers are making well over the national average

  • @trainsandlocomotives
    @trainsandlocomotives Před 19 dny +7

    Buying a house when married can also put you in a bad situation as well. Some states have some messed up divorce laws.

    • @GAFB1122
      @GAFB1122 Před 19 dny +5

      Then be alone.

    • @trainsandlocomotives
      @trainsandlocomotives Před 19 dny +3

      @@GAFB1122 actually you’re more “protected” if you buy a house as a single person.

    • @GAFB1122
      @GAFB1122 Před 19 dny +2

      ​@trainsandlocomotives LOL well there is only one absolute protection. Remain alone!

    • @dahliaherrod4301
      @dahliaherrod4301 Před 19 dny +1

      ​@@trainsandlocomotivesonly if you never move any one or allow them to pay any bills.

  • @MartianAmbassador69
    @MartianAmbassador69 Před 7 dny +1

    As the kids say, "Congratulations, you played yourself."

  • @artemartem1134
    @artemartem1134 Před 19 dny +2

    He not only bought a house with someone he wasn’t married to he had a kid with her! Dumb dumb dumb!

  • @TRC19999
    @TRC19999 Před 20 dny +16

    This guy…I mean. Some people just let folks walk all over them.

  • @throughmyshadow
    @throughmyshadow Před 18 dny +1

    He makes $200k a year and borrowed $40k to put down on a $200k house? This isn’t adding up.

  • @Dividendflywheel
    @Dividendflywheel Před 17 dny

    This is actually a violation of the mortgage contract.
    He should contact the mortgage company and tell them he doesn’t have “ownership” (deed) to the house.

  • @shav12
    @shav12 Před 19 dny

    What is the actual difference between buying a house married vs not married if the loan is signed with rights of survivorship?

  • @caron5622
    @caron5622 Před 7 dny

    I love how he waits until halfway through the call to drop the bombshell. 🙄

  • @sergeewong9715
    @sergeewong9715 Před 19 dny +4

    3:45 "and the plot thickens" 😂

  • @Kennybooy9
    @Kennybooy9 Před 19 dny +2

    How absolutely dumb. People are so financially naive

  • @jimmymcgill6778
    @jimmymcgill6778 Před 20 dny +4

    I'll sue to make them but you out. Or force to sell the house.
    He should have gotten half of all rental income.

  • @charisginn6932
    @charisginn6932 Před 19 dny +1

    Genuine question - this mess could have been avoided if they had written up a clear contract when purchasing the house together, right? So from a logistical (not moral) standpoint it’s not so much “don’t buy a house with someone you’re not married to” but “don’t buy a house with someone unless there’s legal protection for each party, whether through a marriage or a contract”?

    • @ganymedehedgehog371
      @ganymedehedgehog371 Před 19 dny +5

      Anyone stupid enough to buy a home with a gf is not smart enough to make a contract.

    • @jfkst1
      @jfkst1 Před 19 dny +1

      Moreover, anyone stupid enough to sign over the deed without getting their name off the mortgage is definitely not smart enough to get a good contract.

    • @cesaravegah3787
      @cesaravegah3787 Před 19 dny +4

      Genuine answer: Even a well written contract can be challenged on court meaning massive lawyer fees and lots and lots of time, the advice is sound, no marriage, no joint real state bussines.

    • @nailatiylluf
      @nailatiylluf Před 19 dny +1

      Not to mention you probably aren’t able to have calm, objective, business centered conversations about what to do. Your ex might prefer that you lose money than they make money.

    • @Fred2-123
      @Fred2-123 Před 19 dny

      @@nailatiylluf Yes, we've seen this all the time.

  • @oneisnone7350
    @oneisnone7350 Před 19 dny

    Who in their right mind would refi at these rates?

  • @JBCookies8885
    @JBCookies8885 Před 19 dny

    I need help on this one. How does it work if you have person A on the title and person B on the loan? Can person A sell the house and take all the equity? Can person A and/or B take a HELOC on the property? It is just bizarre.

    • @Fred2-123
      @Fred2-123 Před 19 dny +1

      The person on the title is the owner of the house. The person on the mortgage note is the borrower. The bank has a lien on the house as security for the loan. Their lien is superior to the quitclaim deed.
      The bank will not make a mortgage to a person who isn't on the title.
      A could get a HELOC, but B cannot----because A is on the deed title and B is not.

    • @JBCookies8885
      @JBCookies8885 Před 19 dny

      @@Fred2-123 thank you for this. It makes sense. But, to make it crystal clear for myself... Theoretically, if Person A has the title and Person B is on the loan, Person A can get a HELOC and leave Person B to pay the bill? If so, it is extremely scary to ever let this happen.

    • @Fred2-123
      @Fred2-123 Před 19 dny

      @@JBCookies8885 Theoretically, yes. But I suspect that no bank would make a HELOC to A. They would be in second position behind a mortgage to somebody who does not own the house. That's a risk that they are unlikely to want to take on.

    • @catherineskis
      @catherineskis Před 19 dny

      it's called a Quit Claim Deed.

  • @DudeDude491
    @DudeDude491 Před 19 dny +2

    Ken got yelled at by Dave….Look at his Face at the beginning of the Call OR his Panda Express Order is Late…

  • @joelmartinez2278
    @joelmartinez2278 Před 19 dny +2

    How can someone with no common sense make nearly 200K a year????

  • @linuxsurfer2002
    @linuxsurfer2002 Před 19 dny +1

    "We'd like to loan you $40k, but you have to..."
    "No."

  • @johncameron4194
    @johncameron4194 Před 19 dny +1

    Did he say 16 years ago? He’s been dealing with this for that long! Get a lawyer asap

  • @onenikkione
    @onenikkione Před 19 dny

    I would have also asked "do your child's grandparents have any money?" , If they don't, they may not want to go thru the court system as it will be costly for both.