Jonathan Pageau Interview on Theology, Universal History, and Symbolism
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The moment we’ve all been waiting for
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Symbolism Bros:
*I've been waiting for this!*
Pageau moving up in the world! 🙏 😉
Props for slowing down the speed of your speech Seraphim. Sounds very articulated
You two should come together often, there is grounding with Jonathan that takes place when he talks to you.
Great questions. Great job
Missed you SH, hope all has been well.
Great work, Seraphim
Long have I waited for this moment
A great conversation. You have a bit of a different energy (not better or worse) when speaking with another person vs. a monologue and I enjoyed it.
Awesome, Thanks SH for bringing on JP
It’s nice to hear Johnathan talk to a fellow Orthodox brother. He seems a tad more candid and sincere about stuff in this context (just my opinion!).
Thank you for the interview, Seraphim, and your work. 🤙
God bless. It's cool to see how you are on the same wavelength. The conversation flows so well. Definitely feel like both of you should speak again in the future!
More episodes of you two talking about the bible!!!
Very enjoyable
Thank you and God Bless you both
♥🙏🏼☦
this is a very symbolic meet up
When worlds collide
HUGE!!!!!
THIS IS GONNA BE AMAZING.
Excellent. I would be delighted to see you get into the weeds of universal history with Richard Rohlin in the future.
This was great I'd love to see more of you two collaborating together. Keep it up!
Great conversation gentlemen... glory to God ☦
Less gooo
I can imagine 'Nothing But the Blood of Jesus' actually working pretty well as a Eucharistic Hymn if done well and with reverence. I know a lot of people who would be utterly scandalised by it, but sometimes it's good not to be too stuffy about such things.
Jonathan Pageau creationist schizoposting when?
Pretty sure he already is a crypto-creationist
@@lordofhostsappreciator3075 Yeah he mentioned in a video somewhere that he did believe the Earth is 7000 years old or something like that
@@adamq8216 he said that because written history is only that old, we can consider the world only being that old. He doesn't believe the earth is literally that age.
@@joer9156 Has he made an official statement that he rejects the world being so young/old?
@@adamq8216 I've never heard him say exactly what age he believes the world to be, but he frequently ridicules Young Earth Creationists.
Great chat. Thank you and God bless
Hey! Cant wait!
Next stop, round table with Seraphim, Pageau, and Peterson.
The most anticipated crossover in internet orthodoxy.
A four-way discussion between Jay Dyer, Fr Stephen DeYoung, Jonathan Pageau and Seraphim Hamilton would shake the world
Well, finally happened!
Please please, do this again. So exciting.
Thanks, you two for doing this talk. Great topics that def. loaned themselves to seeds for future talks and exploration, esp. with where the conversation was going toward the end. I'll probably watch this discussion again soon. It was really good, great questions and perspective.
I'm a catechumen in the church who has been lost in new age spirituality for years. I think and hope the church recognizes both the need for the esoteric and the exoteric depending what is being considered. The Theotokos for example. I respect and recognize the exoteric understanding of the mother of God but I have esoteric nuances to to that understanding that increases her presence in my mind.
Wonderful
Great conversation, thank you so much
This was a great conversation. Thanks for organizing this!
I think Jonathan's description of America is precisely accurate and it's something I've been thinking for some time as well
Wonderful discussion!!!
Awesome crossover! I hope to see more in the future.
At long last
Hi Seraphim, I have a question for you:
You recommend the book "Through New Eyes" by James B. Jordan for the study of the Typology and Symbolism in the bible. Given that he is a protestant, does he also touch on all the Marian typology which we orthodox affirm in the Old Testament or does he leave it out?
A reply would be appreciated.
YESSSSS! LET’S GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
At about 36:30 the idea emerges that in the end synthesis will somehow be the benefit of a mixed and diverse bag of orthodox expressions. But this is not a benefit. As Kierkegaard supposedly said, as quoted by Fr. Rochelle, in his book, A Staff to the Pilgrim, p.7 "Purity of heart is to will one thing." This axiom of orthodox faith is fleshed out for us in their second discussion when reference is made to the coincidences of Ian McGilquist help clarify even for orthodox how the conceptual flaws of a "synthetic" faith ultimately undermines a single purpose of reality. The singular multiplicity of a universal history is salvation for all through a Logos centered deliverance from and final destruction of evil; not a perpetuation of cyclical fragmentation towards a simulated negation which is at the coreless perimeter of synthetic irrationality.
The issue with Jordan and Leithart is that they are more or less (maybe less) holding on to Reformed convictions. There’s plenty of room in Protestantism for what they are trying to do. Lutheranism is very broad. It’s Calvinism that has less room. At least, that was my experience. I left Calvinism and it was the best thing I’ve done. I found a wonderful home in the Lutheran world. A home that is broader and accommodates the teachings of the church father’s wonderfully.
I'd be interested to hear Jonathan's view on the arts and the use of the imagination in an Orthodox context. I thought that Orthodoxy's negativity towards the use of the imagination was specifically in relation to prayer, but recently I've read some things that suggest that the use of the imagination is always bad in all circumstances and should be completely avoided.
There are exceptions, example would be imagination is required when designing something
Watch his interview with Fr Maximos Constas. Gives their view on it and talks about Maximus the Confessor. I'll find the link
czcams.com/video/ze0Ps52NsVk/video.html
They talk about it about an hour in. Look at timestamps.
Hey Seraphim. Many longed for this.
You mentioned, the theology institute, and their interest in eve? As, Jonathan mentioned, from thence the connection is obvious. This, brings a question to me, was this borne out of the desire to mine the earth, as west went further and further into the trenches the connection to heaven slowly withered, till Russian's moved across Europe. Did they help, bring old world of orthodoxt let's say back to the land, is this seed bearing fruit now? As, more and more people understand the pattered language.
And I am looking forward, to what you do with the Bible, have you any desire to cover Samson's story, in detail?
I could see mutual affection in this. Further discussions would be beneficial to both of you, and us. Thanks for your work, and attention.
As an American Orthodox icon carver you are a chimera, a heavenly mythical being
A Francophone Canadian Protestant-turned- Orthodox from a Catholic-turned-godless Quebec, an icon carver, not even a painter, Pageau symbolizes the margin.
I can't believe this happened!!!
YO
46:39 Ululation is common among most of the African and Arab world, even in Jerusalem it is common to hear during major feasts such as Pascha or Theophany
Seraphim! I finally know why you look familiar! Did you come to the Dormition of the Theotokos in Norfolk, VA?
Jonathan, or anyone who knows: What is the name of the show in London that brought universal history together? (I am going to London in some months and would so love to see it.) Thanks.
Symbolism happens
When is Jonathan speaking at Oxford
27:34 Historia
Did Jonathan say that in the book of Daniel says the Son of Man sits a the right hand of God? Because that's wrong
Is there a way we can interact with you, Seraphim?
Get on his patreon or email him
I'm old enough to remember when we'd call it a flock of crows.
NO WAYYYYY
the crow scene is from a movie, just so you know
Do you mean the one who attacked the white doves? Because that one happened, thanks for reminding me to check that before I repeated it :P
Does anyone know the meaning of the story of Noah, Shem and Ham?
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Greek philosophy and myths are common in human history as carl jung suggested.
10:48
8:53 i dont agree. Because yes god IS everywhere he would be equally in the strange land as he would be in the mundane. As much on the margins as he is in the center.
38?
OMG OMG OMG
I was Like # 666....
found more captains of Gods army
Let’s go