How the Clone Commandos were FORGED into Absolute BEASTS by FORGOTTEN Mandalorian Trainers
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 19. 10. 2020
- One of the most underrated aspects of the Clone Wars Expanded Universe IMO
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Hey Geetslyâs, where did you get the images for the video cover?
Mij killed Priest, not Kal 9:20
Bro I happen to love every one of your videos I love the amount of Star War's history all the way through yet I believe Disney did a disservice by cutting out Legands it should all be together due to it's rich history and lore and by how epic it is just sayin thou...thanks my guy!! I appreciate you for taking the time to make these!!
Geetslys: how mandalorian trainers turned their commandos into beasts.
Commandos who died during live fire training: Am I a joke to you?
"How Aandalorian trainers turned their commandos THAT LIVED into beasts." Fixed
@@geetslys you mean mandalorian, right?
Sorry im a bit late but I have to agree.
Yep, The Cone Commandos were certainly unstoppable beasts. Just ignore all those times I died in Republic Commando!
Never forget those brave Cones
Star Wars The Cone Wars
YOU ARE A CONE!!!!!
Republic Cone Commanders. Keeping the galaxy safe by strategically placing safety cones on rebellious planets
I love the Cone Army
If you read Kristen Travvis's novelization of the lives of the Commandos, it paints a much better picture of Kal and Val. Kal loved his boys, and Val loved his just as much. While Val definitely was a lot harsher, as Geetsly said, he was because he wanted his boys to overcome anything. He was of the "Hard Love" type, and it showed. He really pushed his boys to the limit and then some, so they would never fail themselves. Most of the Cuy'val Dar really did love the clones, and had pity on them because they had no choice. Kal and Val wound up settling on Mandalore and wanted to care for all clones that crossed their path, regardless of what generation or rank they were.
This is the way
*Vau. Not val. Walon Vau, a human male. Get it right, Ner VodâŠ.
It would have been great to see the Null Arcs and Mandalorian trainers in the Clone Wars
Great? It would be fucking epic. Then again, I feel like disney would fuck it up, even with Dave Filoni.
@@zombiemaster4525 David filoni is honestly a meh writer tbh
Thereâs still time with the Bad batch
Maybe We'll see them in the Bad Batch Cartoon.
The problem with Null Arcs is we don't even really see proper Arcs operating as Arcs actually would, we see a lot of clones given Arc training though which is nice....
Anyway, I woulda killed just to see more of the Commandos than that brief snippet, and Mandalorian trainers in the Clone Wars.
Disney really missed the boat with how loved the commandos are.
For anyone wondering, the Majority of the content spoken about in this video comes from Karen Travis' Republic Commando novels, which are, in my opinion, some of the GREATEST Star Wars content ever made, even with the series being left unfinished. Travis canceled the sixth and final book, much to the dismay of many fans, because Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 2 Episode 12 "The Mandalore Plot" was released, which featured quite a bit of content that contradicted with her writing in those books. It was a pretty big controversy at the time and many Mando'ade fans are still quite bitter over it. Personally I find both to be very enjoyable, but I prefer the legends content all the same.
You are right, these are by far the best star wars books
I think the canon could have been tweak/reinterpreted to ensure they still mesh
@@akumaking1 to a certain degree, yes. Planet and character names can be easily switched around to accommodate certain changes, but there are also some specific elements that don't mix well at all. For instance, inhibitor chips didn't exist in the legends content, and the majority of rank and file clones had almost no personality and individuality of any kind, due to how much more heavily the clones were indoctrinated in legends, and that ends up as a key story factor through the RC books, which would then fall apart when mixed with Canon.
Long story short, it's completely possible to "recanonize" the content, but it would need a lot of revision and work to do so. My hope beyond hope is that Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau are already working on this for The Mandalorian show, but that's still pretty unlikely XD
Mandalore is a great big place, just as the star wars universe is massive, there is alot of legends material that would still easily fit without disrupting anything at all. Also those books are some of my favourites and I'm currently a chapter or two away from finishing book three again.
Wow one of the very few people who actually has read the Republic Commando Series. I think her version of Mandalore was way better with its broken war culture, unique language, and its large emphasis on living the warrior life. Obviously David Filion/Disney didnât care to do their homework so just did their own thing not caring what preexisting material was no retconned out. Sad really, she practically made her own Mando language which is now forgotten.
Kal Skirata should be cannon, this is the way
This is the way
This is truly da wae me bruddah
@@elitetrooper119 never gets old lol
Oya!
@@TheEmperorsChampion964 No it does not me bruddah. We must find da queen. For da queen knows de wae.
I imagine some or a lot of the Commandosâ trainers were peeved when they found out how many of them got killed on Geonosis because the Jedi didnât understand how to use them yet.
Words cannot express how much I wanted to see Skirata and the boys make it into the Clone Wars. It's such a cool concept!
The Clone Wars and Traviss' books can't coexist
Like it or not, the Mandalorians did a great job training those clone bois.
After Jango and Boba, Vau and Skirata are my favourite Mandalorians.
I was literally looking for "Kal Skirata, Chad of Chads", and I wasn't disappointed by the result.
Kal Skirata didnât kill Dred Priest, that was Mij Gilamar.
What book
It was the imperial commando book, the last one in the series.
Kill confirmed
Mij Gilamar:I'm a healer,but.....
It's not vengeance, it just has to be done
Skirata was the best in my opinion since he loved his sons and also thought the Jedi were, in his words, "di'kute"
Just curious but is that like an insult? And if it is what does it mean?
@@elijahbutcher9522 yes it is, and idk exactly how to explain it Iâm sorry
@@manlikelk8167 It's cool, thanks though.
I just googled it and di'kute means idiot in mando'a, and di'kutla means idiotic in the same language as well.
And frankly I agree with Skirata
@@elijahbutcher9522 oh I thought that it would be harsher than that, well that just shows that Mandalorians have kinder swear words than ppl in Mexico cause man u can feel the hurt when cussing at someone in Spanish
@@manlikelk8167 yeah, and I think it's because of their culture. Mandalorians regardless of of their backgrounds, genders, and professions are warriors at heart, and they place a big importance on family. It's said that they don't gender specific pronouns in their language like he, she, her or him, nor do they have a word for a word for hero in their language as well, but they have a bunch of words for coward.
So their swear words could essentially be meant for those who go against their warrior and family centered ways, the jedi, sith, and hutts being examples of this.
Unless I'm stretching thisđ€.
Side note: I'm typing this out on my phone, so it's kinda difficult to properly say what I want when I'm not on my laptop.
It's cool hearing about how jango was the top dog of the republic army. He had final say and overall rank over everyone in experience and reputation. I bet that contract is how the bounty hunter and merc community knew of jangos legendary status. He already was top dog before Dooku. But I imagine that once word got around about him being THE template for the army. He would of been untouchable and probably even feared by his colleagues. However he was quiet and spoke when needed. He never revealed much of how he was feeling. But in some rare moment you see what mattered to him, legacy, his culture and past, his love for his son. Hes potentially the best father in the SW canon. He plays starships with his son. Takes him with him on his work to prepare him for what he knows is a rough galaxy. Sure he puts boba in danger constantly.but when you consider how skilled jango is, and how long boba lived. You can see boba was always safe as long as jango was alive. He clearly saw the clone army as a sort of off shoot of the mandalorians and was most likely one of the few privy to the grand sith plan, however probably dookus version.who knows what plans dooku had for jango if they had both lived through the war. Perhaps re taking his mantle of the leader of the true mandalorians, with the help of the clones. I mean, that could ,make sense that dooku and jango would let the clones retire but also continue fighting as a mandalorian allied empire army. But of that universe happened. Jangos true honor would come into conflict with dooku. Jango can work with anyone if it's just professional.its when it gets personal we see him deviate and do the morally correct thing. There's multiple instances of this too. I always get annoyed when people think jango is an evil character. Hes always been neutral to me. Being on neither side, which is how he can look a jedi in the eye and not be arrested. Despite raising an army for their destruction. Plus he hated jedi. But has worked with them for the greater good once.
I would prefer Skirata's version of training, since a sense of family is very important to a being, but I can also understand why Vau did what he did. The only thing why I would not prefer Vau's methods are, that his ruthlessness, the focus on the mission success and survival were also a reason why Delta didn't kriff the orders and went for Sev but left him behind. It is stated many times that other commandos (including Omega) would have ignored the order and went for their teammate.
But Vau lost way less commandos than Kal did. This was what he wanted, he himself had to be hard to them so they could survive anything they had to face.
@@jebusglatze1285 True, but everything comes at a cost.
Also gotta give Delta squad credit after the mission on Kashyyk they didn't even bother learning the name of Sev's replacement and Vau himself went out of his way to find Sev
Would love to see an animated series of this.
not by disney. the material is too dark in many aspects of the story. not the kind of "family friendly" they want at disney.
i would rather like a fan-made animated series (like "the heir of the empire") in clone wars style. at least it would probably not be messed up.
Wish I could have seen Skirata and Vau have their own episode
I love the books about Skirrata and his commandos
Some Mandalorians may have just been brutes, but regardless of their morality, anyone trained by a Mandalorian would be a force to be reckoned with.
Also, on the subject of Mandalorians, with season 2 of the Mandalorian on the horizon, will you be doing videos for every new episode Geetsly, as you did with season 1 and the Clone Wars season 7?
Karen Travis's novels were awesome!
Too bad she couldnât play nice with other authors
@Nicholas Hill
like Dave Filoni ?
@@nicholashill6314
Context?
@@caiosilva2167 grow up
@@eddierivas4651
Sorry i attacked your sacred cow
You should do a history as Venku âKadâ Skirata
Not going to lie wish the old Republic Commando novels were cannon I know there were mixed reception but I loved them and there look into Mando culture
their canon to me, hell, canon isnt canon to me and legends is what i consider facts and truth, and i know there are a lot of people who agree
@@TheFlamingManiac1100 can totally agree with you there
The things it can't coexist with The Clone Wars so that's why stuff like this is always ignored.
@@ugiustuskeiserus8066 of course they can, some stuff has to be removed but most of it is not almost all of it can work
@@TheFlamingManiac1100
Sorry dude. There's at least 2 major things that prevent it.
The clones aren't Mandalorian in The Clone Wars which plays a massive part in the books and is the entire reason they have Mandalorian sergeants in the 1st place.
The clones have inhibitor chips in The Clone Wars while in the books everything they do, they do of their own free will.
Those 2 things are massive. You can't just take them them away because that's a core element to the universe.
New clone â what happened to the prime jango?â
Kaminoan: âhe got in over his stump in a fight with mace Winduâ
Clone: cries in boba fett
to be fair though, if he had to die to someone atleast it was Mace "Muthafuggin" Windu who whooped Palpitine/Sidious' ass
8:40. Jango's Cuy'val dar consists of a desert ranger, a chicken, a krogan, fem Shepard, I think predator? and a few others I'm sure someone recognized. Wonderful picture
Who ever trained Commander Baccara is a Beast
Cort Davin
Karen Traviss is damn genius.
I think this story is really interesting and deep
It is. The books are amazing
Yeah this story arc was extremely well done, it actually lasted through quite a few books.
That stroke at the start of the video lmao
The Karen Traviss clone series should be Canon, she should be able to finish the stories that she started ! thank you for being one of the people to mention it !
The Senate was even more battle hardened.
Delighted to see this section covered â€ïž
Did videos on the Etain and Darnan, and how they had a Jedi/clone hybrid kid.
The white and black armor in the thumbnail looks wicked!
The Mandalorian we wanted.
What could've been if we had Traviss instead of Filoni and if Lucas still had SW
@@ugiustuskeiserus8066 stop hating on one person Blame Disney
@@eddierivas4651
?? Filoni is pretty much solely responsible for why Traviss left Star Wars. I have my problems with Disney but I certainly have my issues with Filoni as well
We need a series about the Cuy'Val Dar
Iâm just surprised that Jango hired two of DeathWatch.
This is the Way
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This is the Way
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This IS the way
Sweet video. This is the most interesting topic in lore that I didn't know about. Thanks for making this!
You should really read the republic commando books from Karen Traviss. One of the best Star Wars book serie I have found.
Kal skirata is the đŁ đ„ coz he saved and treated his clones as family gave the finger to the kananonians for his kids(clones)
That is the best way to put it. "Bacara was unleashed"
I would either wanna be trained by Skirata or Bralor
I would love to see a lot of this these early training of the commandos make the screen someday
the sick as kal skirata art is by hawaiian mako, really should have linked him Geetsly's! I recommend checking him out for sweet star wars art.
i would of been harsh but thorough however i wouldn't put them through death fights like that one deathwatch guy did
These mandalorian fellas are pretty cool in my book.
Didn't Gil kill Dredd, not Kal?
You should do a video on how well trained a regular clone was compared to other counterparts
Heard the story before, love it everytime.
we need to push to make the Star Wars Republic Commando book serce cannon
Great video!!!
Oh gnarly!
i really love these mandalorian trainers
I am Darman on a CWRP server and I ERP with Etain constantly.
And I am RC 14 EOC Major Gra'tua of the Foxtrot Group on CWRP and I ERP with Darman constantly
Thank you Dozie x)
this is jaing skirata reporting in, i can affirm that gratua and darman do it on the occasion
This is village idiot reporting in, I have seen things - 1207 singing off
What is CWRP?
I wish they would bring the Cuy'val Dar back to canon.
Btw, I realised recently the bad batch are the spiritual successor to the clone commando squad from the game. There's a few obvious parrallels
They could have had a series that followed the different trainers and who they trained that ended up becoming ARKs. Iâd watch that every day.
Can you do the Sith empire of Darth Malgus time
This would be such an amazing show to watch. Too bad disney wont do it
the material is too dark in many aspects of the story. not the kind of "family friendly" they want at disney.
i would rather like a fan-made animated series (like "the heir of the empire") in clone wars style. at least it would probably not be messed up.
I love the content keep it upđđđđđ
Finaly got around to Shanking and dumping in a river XD
Did nobody notice the slide with Jango looking over that group of individuals that includes Dark(Predator/Yautja) and a Pre-War Riot Officer [or maybe] Desert Ranger(Fallout: New Vegas)
I just wanna say the armour in the thumbnail looks sick! Does anyone know who it belongs too?
Man I want more mando/clone content from Star Wars! We need a 501st series from the clone wars doing missions with jedi to the reign of the Empire doing missions as Vaders Fist hunting down Jedi with Vader himself! We need Clone Commando and Arc Trooper series! Null Arcs!
Id be okay with Scorch's death if it lead to Walon pursuing BB in retaliation, like Thor in GoWR and them owing a blood debt.
Hey @Getsly's. In the GAR were the Clones served by droids or Clones in the mess halls? It's a question that's bugging me for a bit and was wondering if you knew the answer. Thanks.
(Open to anyone else answering this as well)
Googly Bear
What ever training technic I would have used I would have been at their first battle with them. I would have needed to be to understand the exact conditions they had been asked to fight under and then adjust my training as needed to better support their combat needs. A bounty hunter has different combat needs then a soldier on the front lines or patrol after all.
Who trained gregor though?
Hmm that's a good question
I wonder too
One of the non-mando trainers perhaps? as much as I like Gregor, man was a little soft, but then again we never saw him at his peak, so who can really say.
@@Mournivalofsons yeah that is true
We don't know. Nobody knows anything about Canon commandos
What was that line at the beginning? "Brutallyeth"? That was weird.
Someone with more free time should see if it says anything played backwards.
It was the start of 'brutally efficient' (brutal ef) and cut out, just an editing error, nothing deep lol
@@spicebrook78 I figured, but still. It's sloppy. I expected better from Geetsly's.
@@darthknightwingphoenix2081 If you watch a lot of his videos, he has actually has quite a few editing errors throughout the more recent ones.
@@spicebrook78 oh, boy. I hope he's doing alright.
Hindsight being an unavoidable part of my reasoning, it is difficult to say what I would have tried to teach them or how. But I think, knowing myself, I would have specifically attempted to train them to turn battles back around (optimally by using the opponents strength against them). This approach would have likely involved intentionally putting clones in no-win scenarios one after another (team leaders showing Kirk-like responses to this approach first)... following would come hand to hand techniques designed to help explain and internalize the practice, strategy games akin to chess and go or beyond, various simulations of losing scenarios I had personally seen turned by various practitioners, and finally wrapped up by the impossible task of ordering two of them to kill each other with the winner getting to live and fulfill their role they had been trained for (only those that refused, turning this no-win scenario into a full victory by allying against me would pass... any that chose to kill their fellow teammates in order to fulfill their training outside of what I was trying to teach them would be executed in keeping with the lesson taught... the best way to turn that defeat around is to keep the threat minimal by removing as much of that cancer as possible).
I personally believe individualism to be a great strength, but not exclusively, and a full unit of these 4 commandos were going to have to learn exactly how to balance these facts without allowing the overall objective of their mission to be compromised (and as all missions are unique, all commandos must be able to adapt to their new mission objectives... never holding onto and trying to oppose their old mission objectives on the new one as displayed by such clones accepting defeat by killing their fellow clone thus completing their mission of following orders instilled by the Kaminoans vs following my mission objective of never accepting defeat and instead turning that defeat upon the enemy instead).
I loved the video but it was Gilamar who killed Priest, not Kal
Some of those clones got the worst parents đ
What was the name of the one that trained duel wielding
You hurt jangos sons he hurts you!
8:42 Why is there an NCR Ranger from Fallout New Vegas in this picture?
It would have been cool to see the Clone Troopers being forced to face their trainers.
Can you do the Eternal empire
Yeah i read the commando books.
Last time i was this early cw was canceled
How did the clones feel when they saw blueprints get killed by a jedi? And why did the jedi not put two and two together
9:28 Wasn't Priest killed by Mij, not Kal?
Well, since the Clones aged at twice the rate, starting at 2.5 years of age (5 regular human years; basically take the age of memory retention & double it), Iâd apply survey tests every half year and measuring how sensitive their five senses are, their âSternbergâs threeâ style through their five senses in input (questions) & output (answers), and their learning curve. Then, until the next assessment test, theyâre put in classes that uses the best theyâve got & such. Might end up having a clone chef brigade that arenât just good at serving meals, but can smell poisons and throw their cooking utensils pretty well (donât underestimate âemâŠ)âŠ
Where can we read about this?
Ahah, I'm actually early to your video for once
Ke no jurkadir sha mando ade.
It was Mij Gilamar that killed Dred Priest not Kal Skirata.
Did you hear the garbling during the beginning of the video? Like 1 second in?
I miss the boys ;-;
I wonder who trained the bad batch?
First Rule of Clone Fight Club, donât tell Jango Fett about Clone Fight Club
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@Geetslyâs
(Potential Spoiler Warning!)
The only Clone Commando I know that ended up in a Bacta tank, was Atin. He fought Vau, and nearly got killed because he didnât want to fight his brothers. He has never forgiven Vau from what I know. Atin joined Omega Squad after losing his own squad on Geonosis.
And Fi ... after his battle on Graftikar he got an brain injury and was in a bacta tank (true colors - book)
@Nathan #7 yes, wennen did a good job at the hospital
Vau killed Dread Priest not Kal Bur
Papa Kal
Mij Gilamar shanked Dred Priest, not Skirata
so what you're saying is... how Mandalorians made Clone commandos into.. more Mandalorian's... Aliit ori'shya tal'din. K'oyacyi Ner Vod!!
This is Canon for me!
Are clone commandos foundlings?
No..
I would've trained them in Capoeira. Make them dance & shit