Sets: Death's Disguise Glove Not a ton of value (For duel) Belt Not a ton of value (For duel) Angelic Raiment Ring Lem, Pul for combo Amulet Lem, Pul for combo Tancred's Battlegear Boot Not a ton of value Amulet Not a ton of value
Sigon's Complete Steel Whole Set Lem for whole set The Disciple Amulet Not a ton of value Glove Pul, Um Naj's Ancient Vestige Staff A little bit of value early on Cow King's Leathers Armor A little bit of value (For duel) Helmet A little bit of value (For duel) Boot A little bit of value (For duel) Orphan's Call Helmet Ist, Gul (Maybe less in the future) Shield Not a ton of value Glove Um, Pul Sazabi's Grand Tribute Helm A little bit of value (Budget helm) Aldur's Watchtower Boot +50 Fire resist Um, Mal, Pul (Might drop eventually) Whole Set Gul Griswold's Legacy Weapon Not worth a lot Helm Not worth a lot Shield Not worth a lot Tal Rasha's Wrappings Belt Fal, Lem Weapon +2 Cold Mastery Fal, Lem Mask Fal, Lem Amulet Vex Armor Sur + (Might drop down to 1 High rune) Immortal King Armor Um, Mal Helm Lem or less Weapon Lem or less Glove Lem or less Boot Lem or less Belt Lem or less Whole set Ist Natalya's Odium Boot Fal Whole set Pul, Um Trang-Oul's Avatar Armor Not worth a ton Helm Not worth a ton Belt A little bit of value, worth keeping Shield A little bit of value, worth keeping Glove Pul, Um M'avina's Battle Hymn Armor Not worth a lot at all, worth keeping early Glove Not worth a lot at all, worth keeping early Belt Not worth a lot at all, worth keeping early Helm Not worth a lot at all, worth keeping early Bow Not worth a lot at all, worth keeping early Whole Set Mal, Ist Rares (rings and amulets): +3 to skills (amulets), magic find +Skill Hard to value Faster cast rate Hard to value Life Hard to value Mana Hard to value Strength Hard to value Dexterity Hard to value All resistances Hard to value Resistances Hard to value Attack rating Hard to value Life leech, Mana leech or both Hard to value Minimum damage Hard to value Maximum damage Hard to value Magic find Hard to value Replenish life Hard to value Rares (tiaras and diadems): +2 to skills + 20% faster cast rate or faster run walk +Skill +2 to skills Hard to value Faster cast rate 20% faster cast rate Hard to value Faster run walk Hard to value Dexterity Hard to value All resistances Hard to value Life Hard to value Mana Hard to value Strength Hard to value Resistances Hard to value Minimum damage Hard to value Maximum damage Hard to value Magic find Hard to value Life leech, Mana leech or both Hard to value Hard to value Attack rating Hard to value Rares (druid helms): +Tornado +5 to tornado +Skill +2 to skills Hard to value Faster cast rate 20% faster cast rate Hard to value Faster run walk Hard to value Dexterity Hard to value All resistances Hard to value Life Hard to value Strength Hard to value Resistances Rare (belts): Hard to value Faster hit recovery Hard to value Strength Hard to value Life Hard to value Mana Hard to value Resistances Hard to value Attack rating Hard to value Replenish Life Hard to value Rare (boots): +30% run walk + 10% faster hit recovery + dexterity + resistances Dexterity Hard to value Magic find Hard to value Faster run walk Hard to value Resistances Hard to value Mana Hard to value Rare (gloves): +Skill +2 skills Hard to value +Attack speed +20% attack speed Hard to value Resistances Hard to value Life leech, Mana leech or both Hard to value Strength Hard to value Dexterity Hard to value Magic (gloves): +Skill +3 skills Hard to value +Attack speed +20% attack speed Hard to value Magic (javelin): +Skill +3 skills Worth a ton +Attack speed +40% attack speed Worth a ton
@@Leeamik I did a clean version on a spreadsheet if someone want to download it. The only issue is youtube keep blocking my link :(. No idea how to share it.
If possible, I'd recommend a video where you explain in some more detail what you mean by "has value". As someone who has played this game forever I fully understand what you mean, and it's all true within the specific context you're discussing, but I'm seeing a whole lot of new and returning people in the comments who are getting depressed or even turned off completely by all the "no value no value no value", because they're conflating "people seeking their endgame best in slot gear won't trade high runes for this item" with "this item is totally useless in gameplay". There's definitely truth to the idea that high end runewords beat out nearly every other item, and that is a fundamental problem with the game itself. And Spirit sword is particularly broken, given its low cost (at least the shield makes you wait until Hell and has a STR tradeoff, I guess). But there are plenty of people who just want to play through this game casually (or even solo self found like me) and really shouldn't be getting anxious about Enigma or Grief being so overpowered. Because, let's just be real, unless you're really big on playing the trading game, you may never see them. I've played on and off for two decades, but because it's all solo self found, I've never dropped certain runes, let alone enough of them to deck out multiple characters with the big runewords. What I'm trying to say is there's myriad ways to enjoy this game at a hell-viable level without having the most broken runewords equipped on all of your characters. I know I have a solo self found mindset (just buying/trading for an item rather than finding it doesn't excite me), but there's a lot of middle ground between "exclusively offline ssf" and "if I don't trade for a perfect Grief my melee characters have no value" and I see a lot of people in the comments reacting like that middle ground doesn't exist, which seems bad for the community and the game.
Also, I wonder how much of the new player angst comes from a D3 mindset. In that game (which I've played lots of, so I'm not a hater) the endgame is the only game, and you are required to have specific items/sets for a build to even work whatsoever. Therefore, the drop rates are tuned so high that you get everything with very little time investment. In D2, drop rates are vastly, vastly lower, but that's not game-breaking because to don't *need* Fathom/Arachs/Spirit to run an endgame-viable Blizz sorc, and you don't *need* dual Dream to run an endgame viable Holy Shock paladin. Those will make those builds better, yes, but they aren't a baseline requirement like the pre-defined gear of D3 sets. D3 builds *start* with getting your best in slot gear, while D2 builds work without any of it, and the pursuit of those items is itself the gameplay objective. It's really important for people to realize that distinction.
the tl;dr version is... "should i keep it JUST for trading (even though i'm not going to use it)". i keep a LOT of 'trash' because i plan to level up a ton of characters... so i'm always like "ooh, this rare will help my druid eventually~" etc. but it's not actually a "good" item, in that no one would pay for it for trading.
value is determined by what people are wanting. if you can find a buyer for cathans set then cathans set "has value"... but llama is generally meaning it has the stats experienced players want for their builds
If this series has taught me anything, apparently nothing is worth a high rune outside of like... some charms and gg rare/magic items and no matter how rare the set or unique, it's usually not worth more than a lem or a mal rune.
Since Spirit is too op considering the runes needed, many of the unique/set items became useless. I wished D2R nerfed Spirit (like PD2 did) but not gonna happen.
@@khantaejin It's just wild to me that the entire set for IK or Nats, or Mavina's is like... a Mal rune. Or that Windorce and D.Web are so cheap. Like if those items aren't worth HRs nothing is. It's what, griffin's, death's fathom, and maybe one or two other items.
it also explains to me why my 12 year old self was always broke - i never thought the blue or yellows were anything but vendor trash 100% of the time, and i could never sell off anything cause i was always trying to ask for too much or sell things no one wanted.
Watched the whole thing at work today, only items that you left out were the key sets and organs, and the essences/tokens. Anyways solid content, keep it up
Great series. Hope alot of people see this cuz right now all trade channels are full of people thinking they can get a Ber for garbage. Big thumbs up!!!
@@simonclarke8098 yeah the prices are a bit underrated. I’m refering to the people that think garbage has value. No matter the time in season stuff like crossbows will be garbage but people think all unique items are speciell. Someone wanted a Jah for a Blessed Hand etc.
As far as boots go, I personally think that rares greatly outshine the vast majority of uniques. The problem is that you can get a good pair, generally quite early by just gambling. And even if you don't get anything great in particular, you can just save up the magic ones for crafting. Blood crafted boots are really good for the extra life and lifesteal if you're a melee character. It's a similar case with Gloves. Generally, 3 to jav/spear gloves with 20IAS magic gloves are going to be very tight for any Javazon and can be worth quite a bit. But on the other hand, Cold/Fire Bowazons are rare, so + to Bow/Crossbow skills isn't going to be sought after as much. And even if they are, Bowazons in general much prefer Hitpower crafted gloves for the knockback. Unlike Rares, which you can gamble for, crafted items require a lot more scavenging. As MrLiama mentioned, 40 perfect gems usually go for around a Pul-Um rune, and it's not guaranteed that you'll actually get a good drop after 40 attempts. Combined with the hassle of finding jewels, and yea, a lot of people don't want to deal with that. So if you manage to get a good roll on them, they can fetch a pretty penny
iratha's set does have some value in classic due to the + 10 max res. sigons is usually highly sought after for low level characters. not worth much, but many people would trade for it. m'avina's diadem is popular for a cheap archer helm due to the 30 ias on a helm.
What I took from watching alls of these: Death's Web is actually pretty cheap and attainable in spite of it being the second more rare drop in the game and it being utterly and absurdly overpowered.
@@Stavroization super late, but arach is BiS for most casters without already gg gear. You get 70fcr from dual spirits, 20 from gloves, 10 from a ring, and 20 from arach hits your 120 which is last breakpoint reasonably attainable for teleport. Plus you get a skill out of it. 20fcr ammys and circlets are a lot harder to obtain. Viper is maybe better on a sorc but nigma takes chest for Every one else so they need to make up the fcr. Shako is helm, maras is ammy, 1 ring and boots for res +whatever else you need.
Mrllama i have a barb rare helm (also gorgeous red) that has +2 barb skills, +1 masteries, +3 battle orders, 65 life, 4% chance to cast nova, 2 sockets. I think this helm its very valuable cause it gor 2 sockets and is a +5 bo helm. Do you think its better than arreat face to use not only as bo helm but as helm to wear all the time? in that case, what would you put in the sockets ? i compare it with arreat and arreat has that dexterity buff sure but i think this helms gives the life and can add much more dps with the 2 sockets.
ahm wow, I was rly sad at the end, cause yeah I won't dig so deep in the game personally, but I share your passion for this game and would love to listen if you tell about the f'd up stuff. thx and love
thank you so much for putting all of this together and helping people try and get into the trading market! I had planned on writing up an excel sheet for each relevant item and its estimated market value, but as others have stated, very few things can fetch more than a Lem or so, meaning it would take a considerable number of trades to get the highest runes needed for endgame runewords. Is this the path most people take, or is just high-mf farming luck seemingly a faster route than trading?
The easiest way to get rich imo is to start farming hell asap at reset. Mf with super budget gear. Sell anything of value for the first 2-3 weeks on jsp, by that stage you should have several hrs worth of fg and prices on everything would have dropped and you can buy anything you sold at that time for a small fraction of what you sold it for. ie. If you found occy day 1, that would have sold for 3000-4000fg. Today is worth about 500fg (gul rune) but today you can get a ber rune for 4000. So if you did that you effectively turned a relatively common item like occy into a ber rune in a week with no additional effort. A lot of the trading early on is understanding how the market generally changes as llama explains in another video.
@@Stavroization thank you for this! I was worried about using the site due to RMT, but if enough fg can be earned in-game to make it feasible then I'll definitely take a look. much appreciated ^^
@@Touyakun2 yeah, I've been using it since 2006. Most people don't spend real money. I've never spent any money there. It's just a much easier method of trading. With a universal currency, you don't need to worry about having the exact item to trade to someone for something you need. Cooley does a great video talking about it
Llama got a question since I'm getting some conflicting info: 19 all res 1 to paladin skills 10 life ring level 31. What is the value of a ring like that.
Interesting thanks! I do have a couple questions however. 1. What kind of +skills (specific skills) would I look for in a socketed assassin weapon, or Necro Offhand, or whatever, for a white/superior/grey version? Are any specifically valueable? Would a +3 Bone spear normal wand have extra value to a bone necro? (I have one for MY necro, but I found another.) 2. Is there anything cool you can do with Sorc orbs? I don't really see any runewords that work in them (which is lame tbh, WTB Leaf in an orb). Just vendor em?
+3 traps for assassin weapon might be a little valuable, but probably nothing else. For necro shields, it's probably not that valuable unless you get a magic/rare one with +2 to all necro skills & +3 bone spear. For sorc orbs, no runewords are possible, but a magic/rare orb with +2 to all sorc skills, FCR, & +3 blizzard or +3 to frozen orb would be semi valuable.
Basically why I play self-found. Nothing has a real value except HRs, uniques which enable certain builds (like griffons), and "some" rares. If I found a Jah, there seems to be nothing worth of trading it for, but hell there are a lot of items I wish I would have.
Artic belt, gloves and chest is super nice for leveling and combined that with angelic neck and ring Rather solid for starting out, if your are a melee char throw on the angelic saber and you get a super fast hitting weapon with okay stats. Not omg good but okay !
@@zalcal831 I disagree, there's no unique amulet that has anywhere close to that amount of MF, and it's equivalent to Mara's for resist. It's niche that someone would actually want to use it, but it certainly has the value. That being said, I definitely wouldn't hold out expecting to get more than a Vex, it's rare to find someone who actually wants to use it
Can you do an explanation on PvP magic pally shields? I'm not sure what's considered good %ed or increased block chance.. rate. I have a few targes, sacred targes, crown shields I'm sitting on. One lvl 3 4 os 44 all res and I think 9% enhanced defence. Few akaran/sacred targes 4os increased block and enhanced damage all 45+% and +100 attack rating. These worth much? No idea how I'd sell em
Not enough LOVE for Cow Kings Booties! Amazing footwear at lvl 13... +20Dex Fire Damage Run/walk and MF these boots make lvln and Mfn go hand in hand and they rock! And they have real value to those that know from lvl 13-42(B4 Travs/Riders) they are best in slot!
Always keep on the lookout for FoH sticks. They're super niche and hardly anyone will buy them, but they're incredibly rare and I expect someone who wants it to pay out the nose.
People are always saying how good the loot system is in this game but i disagree, I feel like 99.9% of the drops are worth nothing and are useless. It's like its not worth picking anything up. Plus its so easy to get basic runewords like stealth/ancient's pledge/spirit
I somewhat agree. I think blizz totally threw off the balance of the game when they introduced all those OP runewords. BUT there are a lot of very good uniques that are useful for your character. Just because you can't trade it to someone doesn't mean it's not worth picking up and using.
Well you're wrong because 99.9% isn't useless. Even pgems have value and low runes for cube recipes. Many of those runewords you listed are only for leveling and are quite bad in hell - except spirit. This is why people even have multiple accounts to help store everything - if 99.9% was useless then we wouldn't even need mules.
Honest question, once you have a character decked out in all the best stuff, what is your end game personal goal? Holy grail? Just thinking once I get a character fully geared what kinds of personal goals/activities are there to keep me busy in D2? (aside from the obvious of getting all classes geared, etc.), is there something other than the Holy Grail that keeps people cranking away for 2 decades? I love this game, but I've always been an on again off again due to feeling like I ran out of objectives in the end game until a new ladder drops. I'd love to learn more about the depth of the game beyond just getting to the point where you can farm ubers/Hell Baal with little effort. After watching this and learning how little value 90% of uniques and sets have, my little stash of treasures feels so much less special lol
Challenge, from a old d2 not ressurected offline only players 8 sp game with plugY. All classes, nearly all skills are viable, just more or less gear dependent. IE summoning necro is viable through hell naked, summon druid is hell viable with massive stacked auras from rare rws, a ton of plus skills gear and HoW over oak sage, killing baal takes forever but it's doable. Also most sets and uniques are totally viable in the process of leveling on certain characters. Maybe only for a level or so but it's there. I am still going through doing weird stuff with many things I have never done. Thinking a singer next, cause I do not play barbs often.
@@Stavroization Yes but equipping 3 piece of angelics gives +50 mf set bonus to ring too. so can have +100 with two. and +1 skill with amulet. you just have to sacriface armor or weapon slot for the bonus.
Im surprised the arctic belt and chest have no value since they’ll net you 50% magic find at level 2 with very low str requirement. Kind of the same for the full Angelic set as it can carry you to at least act 3 in nightmare on a new character and gives 90% magic find
Donrt sleep on cathans amu and rings. With 2 rings and amu u get 10+10 strength and 6+6 lifesteal. Combine that with the strength and lifesteal of sigion and death you will have town of survivability until you hit lvl 25. U can go into a p8 game and solo for epic xp.
Lol Ive never really thought on this a lot but runewords literally killed 90% of uniques and set items. I remember when like Windforce, Stormshield, Grandfather sword, Gris armor on merc (If i remember right), Skullders Ire - these items were GOD tier and thats just naming a few. Like if you found any of those youd dookie your pants. Now they are just very hard to find cheapies. The y can be good placeholders but not going for runewords doesnt make sense they are way over powered. Even low runewords like spirit, stealth, Lore, Insight on Merc - insanely powerful. Ive never really considered this a bad thing necessarily, finding bases and runes is still fun, just different
Runewords didnt kill them! The runes needed are more rare than the uniques. Its chinese farmers and bots farming runes that hurt the game. So we go back to sorceress is the only teleporting character in the game. And you're not going to be seeing an enigma...
Hey everyone, He does not Cover one important question. How do i find people to Trade with. Just create a game with a good title or should i go go some Homepage? Which one is good ?
I've watching your latest videos, and for old values are ok. My concept of values are quite the same, but today everyone is making Uber bosses instead looking for items, there is no bots working as it used to be, so today not is a offer/demand thing, if the people is not finding more items, or if this people is not creating such characters to use those items, some of them will be really valuable while others can be worth anything.
Some of the PvP gear value is absolutely insane. These are usually items that are completely useless for any player that plays the regular game, but these blue items like JMoD or +6/40s are absolutely dumb. That really shows that PvP is something that you only get into when you have played the regular game so much, that RW or Uniques just don't have value anymore, so you go out and get a blue shield for 300 Ist Runes, so you can put 4 perfect light-RBF in them that are also worth a BER-rune each. Fun.
HELP. Hey friends, on my second cow run I got a Jah rune drop. Now the problem is I don't know what to do with it. My friends tells me to keep it but I am considering getting some gear for it. My frozen orb sorc is clearing cows very slowly, I have only lore helm and spirit sword. So I don't think I will get any other high runes to be able to make a good rune word but I could definetly get some gear for that Jah to be able to clear content faster. Please advice
Oh and for the IK armor price is a lil off on that one people asking for you’re whole arm and half your leg for it 😂 but for real people been asking tals armor for it
After looking the 4 parts videos so far, as a slightly over casual player, I still can't fathom the idea of getting a Ber/Jah in hand outside of dropping it. Virtually no items outside are worth that much and only a select few are worth around Vex. How players get into getting those runs beside dropping it naturally? Trading items worth Um-Mal slowly into a Ber/Jah? I never was close of getting that rune to make the great Runewords and I wonder how I'll ever get there. Those videos aren't giving me optimism. Any insight on how it's done during a ladder?
It's about target farming items during different phases of a launch/ladder. White Bases the first 2 days are where all the value is. You can farm Meph on a sorc and hope for a shako, but you can literally farm a few white monarchs in pits the first day and trade for a shako 100% with-in a few hours. At day 3-5, it's all about Key farming for torches. An Unid torch at day 3 sells for like 2 HR.
You can farm key sets for the ubers, or if strong enough you can farm the organs themselves to do ubers. You can also sell respec tokens or pgems. Rushing people for Hell forges can get up to a Gul rune. Those are things that are more consistent to farm than hoping some amazing unique drops. Or just level a sorc and farm meph day and night- he can drop shako/arachs/occulus/tal rashas. If you are skilled enough making a Pally Smiter early and getting torches to sell can make you rich really quickly.
Probably not cause most people use Nagelring for MF. A blue ring with FCR can only get a max of 15% MF, whereas a Nagelring can get up to 30% MF. I believe a rare ring though can get up to 25% MF, so if it has other good mods like FCR, resistances, life, etc. then it might be worth something.
Not even close. If you wait, eventually the price will come down where you could trade for an ist. Current price is somewhere around vex+mal to vex+gul.
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Sets:
Death's Disguise
Glove Not a ton of value (For duel)
Belt Not a ton of value (For duel)
Angelic Raiment
Ring Lem, Pul for combo
Amulet Lem, Pul for combo
Tancred's Battlegear
Boot Not a ton of value
Amulet Not a ton of value
Sigon's Complete Steel
Whole Set Lem for whole set
The Disciple
Amulet Not a ton of value
Glove Pul, Um
Naj's Ancient Vestige
Staff A little bit of value early on
Cow King's Leathers
Armor A little bit of value (For duel)
Helmet A little bit of value (For duel)
Boot A little bit of value (For duel)
Orphan's Call
Helmet Ist, Gul (Maybe less in the future)
Shield Not a ton of value
Glove Um, Pul
Sazabi's Grand Tribute
Helm A little bit of value (Budget helm)
Aldur's Watchtower
Boot +50 Fire resist Um, Mal, Pul (Might drop eventually)
Whole Set Gul
Griswold's Legacy
Weapon Not worth a lot
Helm Not worth a lot
Shield Not worth a lot
Tal Rasha's Wrappings
Belt Fal, Lem
Weapon +2 Cold Mastery Fal, Lem
Mask Fal, Lem
Amulet Vex
Armor Sur + (Might drop down to 1 High rune)
Immortal King
Armor Um, Mal
Helm Lem or less
Weapon Lem or less
Glove Lem or less
Boot Lem or less
Belt Lem or less
Whole set Ist
Natalya's Odium
Boot Fal
Whole set Pul, Um
Trang-Oul's Avatar
Armor Not worth a ton
Helm Not worth a ton
Belt A little bit of value, worth keeping
Shield A little bit of value, worth keeping
Glove Pul, Um
M'avina's Battle Hymn
Armor Not worth a lot at all, worth keeping early
Glove Not worth a lot at all, worth keeping early
Belt Not worth a lot at all, worth keeping early
Helm Not worth a lot at all, worth keeping early
Bow Not worth a lot at all, worth keeping early
Whole Set Mal, Ist
Rares (rings and amulets): +3 to skills (amulets), magic find
+Skill Hard to value
Faster cast rate Hard to value
Life Hard to value
Mana Hard to value
Strength Hard to value
Dexterity Hard to value
All resistances Hard to value
Resistances Hard to value
Attack rating Hard to value
Life leech, Mana leech or both Hard to value
Minimum damage Hard to value
Maximum damage Hard to value
Magic find Hard to value
Replenish life Hard to value
Rares (tiaras and diadems): +2 to skills + 20% faster cast rate or faster run walk
+Skill +2 to skills Hard to value
Faster cast rate 20% faster cast rate Hard to value
Faster run walk Hard to value
Dexterity Hard to value
All resistances Hard to value
Life Hard to value
Mana Hard to value
Strength Hard to value
Resistances Hard to value
Minimum damage Hard to value
Maximum damage Hard to value
Magic find Hard to value
Life leech, Mana leech or both Hard to value Hard to value
Attack rating Hard to value
Rares (druid helms):
+Tornado +5 to tornado
+Skill +2 to skills Hard to value
Faster cast rate 20% faster cast rate Hard to value
Faster run walk Hard to value
Dexterity Hard to value
All resistances Hard to value
Life Hard to value
Strength Hard to value
Resistances
Rare (belts): Hard to value
Faster hit recovery Hard to value
Strength Hard to value
Life Hard to value
Mana Hard to value
Resistances Hard to value
Attack rating Hard to value
Replenish Life Hard to value
Rare (boots): +30% run walk + 10% faster hit recovery + dexterity + resistances
Dexterity Hard to value
Magic find Hard to value
Faster run walk Hard to value
Resistances Hard to value
Mana Hard to value
Rare (gloves):
+Skill +2 skills Hard to value
+Attack speed +20% attack speed Hard to value
Resistances Hard to value
Life leech, Mana leech or both Hard to value
Strength Hard to value
Dexterity Hard to value
Magic (gloves):
+Skill +3 skills Hard to value
+Attack speed +20% attack speed Hard to value
Magic (javelin):
+Skill +3 skills Worth a ton
+Attack speed +40% attack speed Worth a ton
Thanks for this!
@@Leeamik I did a clean version on a spreadsheet if someone want to download it. The only issue is youtube keep blocking my link :(. No idea how to share it.
@@fenix7167 Maybe upload a video and put it into description?
I just copied and pasted. God bless you for this amazing detail
Please don't make posts if you don't know what you're talking about.
Im new to D2, and have been watching your vids almost every night. Thanks so much for all the help!
same xD
If possible, I'd recommend a video where you explain in some more detail what you mean by "has value". As someone who has played this game forever I fully understand what you mean, and it's all true within the specific context you're discussing, but I'm seeing a whole lot of new and returning people in the comments who are getting depressed or even turned off completely by all the "no value no value no value", because they're conflating "people seeking their endgame best in slot gear won't trade high runes for this item" with "this item is totally useless in gameplay".
There's definitely truth to the idea that high end runewords beat out nearly every other item, and that is a fundamental problem with the game itself. And Spirit sword is particularly broken, given its low cost (at least the shield makes you wait until Hell and has a STR tradeoff, I guess). But there are plenty of people who just want to play through this game casually (or even solo self found like me) and really shouldn't be getting anxious about Enigma or Grief being so overpowered. Because, let's just be real, unless you're really big on playing the trading game, you may never see them. I've played on and off for two decades, but because it's all solo self found, I've never dropped certain runes, let alone enough of them to deck out multiple characters with the big runewords.
What I'm trying to say is there's myriad ways to enjoy this game at a hell-viable level without having the most broken runewords equipped on all of your characters. I know I have a solo self found mindset (just buying/trading for an item rather than finding it doesn't excite me), but there's a lot of middle ground between "exclusively offline ssf" and "if I don't trade for a perfect Grief my melee characters have no value" and I see a lot of people in the comments reacting like that middle ground doesn't exist, which seems bad for the community and the game.
Also, I wonder how much of the new player angst comes from a D3 mindset. In that game (which I've played lots of, so I'm not a hater) the endgame is the only game, and you are required to have specific items/sets for a build to even work whatsoever. Therefore, the drop rates are tuned so high that you get everything with very little time investment.
In D2, drop rates are vastly, vastly lower, but that's not game-breaking because to don't *need* Fathom/Arachs/Spirit to run an endgame-viable Blizz sorc, and you don't *need* dual Dream to run an endgame viable Holy Shock paladin. Those will make those builds better, yes, but they aren't a baseline requirement like the pre-defined gear of D3 sets. D3 builds *start* with getting your best in slot gear, while D2 builds work without any of it, and the pursuit of those items is itself the gameplay objective. It's really important for people to realize that distinction.
the tl;dr version is... "should i keep it JUST for trading (even though i'm not going to use it)". i keep a LOT of 'trash' because i plan to level up a ton of characters... so i'm always like "ooh, this rare will help my druid eventually~" etc. but it's not actually a "good" item, in that no one would pay for it for trading.
value is determined by what people are wanting. if you can find a buyer for cathans set then cathans set "has value"... but llama is generally meaning it has the stats experienced players want for their builds
Thanks so much for these value videos man. My inventory is looking crazy.
great work , much needed this. farming a lot and keeping my stash clean is hard, you helped me a lot!
Loving the videos man, Im getting into d2r alot since it came out the nostalgia from my youth hits hard lol great content man.
If this series has taught me anything, apparently nothing is worth a high rune outside of like... some charms and gg rare/magic items and no matter how rare the set or unique, it's usually not worth more than a lem or a mal rune.
Since Spirit is too op considering the runes needed, many of the unique/set items became useless. I wished D2R nerfed Spirit (like PD2 did) but not gonna happen.
@@khantaejin It's just wild to me that the entire set for IK or Nats, or Mavina's is like... a Mal rune. Or that Windorce and D.Web are so cheap. Like if those items aren't worth HRs nothing is. It's what, griffin's, death's fathom, and maybe one or two other items.
it also explains to me why my 12 year old self was always broke - i never thought the blue or yellows were anything but vendor trash 100% of the time, and i could never sell off anything cause i was always trying to ask for too much or sell things no one wanted.
Really makes me think running pindle/meph/andy is for suckers and real kings run cows and Chaos.
@@pragmat1k on hell?
Thank you so very much for this, added all of this info in my Gaming Booklet for easy reference.
Watched the whole thing at work today, only items that you left out were the key sets and organs, and the essences/tokens. Anyways solid content, keep it up
Estimated Rune Values:
Jah/Ber 2.6-2.8 HR
Sur 1.3 HR
Lo 1.1 HR
Ohm 0.9 HR
Vex 0.5 HR
Zod 0.5 HR
Cham 0.25 HR
Gul 0.25 HR
Ist 0.2 HR
Mal 0.1 HR
Um 0.06 HR
Pul 0.04 HR
Lem 0.03 HR
Ko 0.01 HR
Lum 0.01 HR
Fal 0.01 HR
Io 0.01 HR
Thanks again for a video I really needed it .
Naj armor is a great armor for +Skill and +all res if you havent found a viper yet.
thanks! i relearned a lot of information from this video. Much Appreciated!!!
Well mrllama, your mana leech ring is 100% perfect with all usefull stats. Maybe the most beautiful ring i have ever seen.
Great series. Hope alot of people see this cuz right now all trade channels are full of people thinking they can get a Ber for garbage.
Big thumbs up!!!
Reality is he's using old prices for current game. Hardly realistic ATM. This will be value in a year or maybe 6 months
@@simonclarke8098 yeah the prices are a bit underrated. I’m refering to the people that think garbage has value. No matter the time in season stuff like crossbows will be garbage but people think all unique items are speciell. Someone wanted a Jah for a Blessed Hand etc.
As far as boots go, I personally think that rares greatly outshine the vast majority of uniques. The problem is that you can get a good pair, generally quite early by just gambling. And even if you don't get anything great in particular, you can just save up the magic ones for crafting. Blood crafted boots are really good for the extra life and lifesteal if you're a melee character.
It's a similar case with Gloves. Generally, 3 to jav/spear gloves with 20IAS magic gloves are going to be very tight for any Javazon and can be worth quite a bit. But on the other hand, Cold/Fire Bowazons are rare, so + to Bow/Crossbow skills isn't going to be sought after as much. And even if they are, Bowazons in general much prefer Hitpower crafted gloves for the knockback.
Unlike Rares, which you can gamble for, crafted items require a lot more scavenging. As MrLiama mentioned, 40 perfect gems usually go for around a Pul-Um rune, and it's not guaranteed that you'll actually get a good drop after 40 attempts. Combined with the hassle of finding jewels, and yea, a lot of people don't want to deal with that. So if you manage to get a good roll on them, they can fetch a pretty penny
Amazing video series man
iratha's set does have some value in classic due to the + 10 max res. sigons is usually highly sought after for low level characters. not worth much, but many people would trade for it. m'avina's diadem is popular for a cheap archer helm due to the 30 ias on a helm.
What I took from watching alls of these:
Death's Web is actually pretty cheap and attainable in spite of it being the second more rare drop in the game and it being utterly and absurdly overpowered.
You mean arachnid mesh?
@@lassehl4349 Arach isn't overly rare because it can be found on hell meph and the drop rate isnt that outrageous either compared to the TC87 uniques
@@JustinYummy it's also not overly powerful. Unless you're trying to hit some really high fcr breakpoint, there are more useful options.
@@Stavroization super late, but arach is BiS for most casters without already gg gear. You get 70fcr from dual spirits, 20 from gloves, 10 from a ring, and 20 from arach hits your 120 which is last breakpoint reasonably attainable for teleport. Plus you get a skill out of it. 20fcr ammys and circlets are a lot harder to obtain. Viper is maybe better on a sorc but nigma takes chest for Every one else so they need to make up the fcr. Shako is helm, maras is ammy, 1 ring and boots for res +whatever else you need.
Thats because anything under 40% is cheap. But a perfect 50%? Lol. Maybe 10 HR'S at least. 2nd most rare just became THEE most rare item in game...
Those boots are insane 👍🏻
Thanks! I had rly crapy boots.
Bought aldur advance for lem :D.
Got a 30frw 3sox tiara back in the days which brought me a few hundred bucks on eBay. Best day ever.
16:30 these triple res boots are actually sick. It's like Picasso of diablo 2.
Love the content lama you should do a rune word version of this would help new players not get scammed for good runewords
Your thumbnails lately have been fantastic looking :)
hi great video. How did you get a bigger inventory and can you have that in multiplayer?
I found a Ber rune a few days ago on my lvl 70 Pal. I thought it might be rare, but wow. Now I need to figure out how to best use it :D
Mrllama i have a barb rare helm (also gorgeous red) that has +2 barb skills, +1 masteries, +3 battle orders, 65 life, 4% chance to cast nova, 2 sockets. I think this helm its very valuable cause it gor 2 sockets and is a +5 bo helm. Do you think its better than arreat face to use not only as bo helm but as helm to wear all the time? in that case, what would you put in the sockets ? i compare it with arreat and arreat has that dexterity buff sure but i think this helms gives the life and can add much more dps with the 2 sockets.
ahm wow, I was rly sad at the end, cause yeah I won't dig so deep in the game personally, but I share your passion for this game and would love to listen if you tell about the f'd up stuff. thx and love
I was interested in Keys and Tokens to see how much they worth. Did you skip those or I missed them ? thanks
thank you so much for putting all of this together and helping people try and get into the trading market!
I had planned on writing up an excel sheet for each relevant item and its estimated market value, but as others have stated, very few things can fetch more than a Lem or so, meaning it would take a considerable number of trades to get the highest runes needed for endgame runewords. Is this the path most people take, or is just high-mf farming luck seemingly a faster route than trading?
The easiest way to get rich imo is to start farming hell asap at reset. Mf with super budget gear. Sell anything of value for the first 2-3 weeks on jsp, by that stage you should have several hrs worth of fg and prices on everything would have dropped and you can buy anything you sold at that time for a small fraction of what you sold it for.
ie. If you found occy day 1, that would have sold for 3000-4000fg. Today is worth about 500fg (gul rune) but today you can get a ber rune for 4000. So if you did that you effectively turned a relatively common item like occy into a ber rune in a week with no additional effort.
A lot of the trading early on is understanding how the market generally changes as llama explains in another video.
@@Stavroization thank you for this! I was worried about using the site due to RMT, but if enough fg can be earned in-game to make it feasible then I'll definitely take a look. much appreciated ^^
@@Touyakun2 yeah, I've been using it since 2006. Most people don't spend real money. I've never spent any money there. It's just a much easier method of trading. With a universal currency, you don't need to worry about having the exact item to trade to someone for something you need.
Cooley does a great video talking about it
I got the whole tals set, 2 mals and a 20-19 amazon torch for a SUR rune the other day.
Would love a rune word basics ie spirit monarch, insight cv.
Llama got a question since I'm getting some conflicting info: 19 all res 1 to paladin skills 10 life ring level 31. What is the value of a ring like that.
Super Helpful Video, Appreciated. Although left with the question is nothing worth a Jah/Ber on its own?
Dunno, maybe 45 life desirable skiller
Interesting thanks! I do have a couple questions however.
1. What kind of +skills (specific skills) would I look for in a socketed assassin weapon, or Necro Offhand, or whatever, for a white/superior/grey version? Are any specifically valueable? Would a +3 Bone spear normal wand have extra value to a bone necro? (I have one for MY necro, but I found another.)
2. Is there anything cool you can do with Sorc orbs? I don't really see any runewords that work in them (which is lame tbh, WTB Leaf in an orb). Just vendor em?
+3 traps for assassin weapon might be a little valuable, but probably nothing else. For necro shields, it's probably not that valuable unless you get a magic/rare one with +2 to all necro skills & +3 bone spear. For sorc orbs, no runewords are possible, but a magic/rare orb with +2 to all sorc skills, FCR, & +3 blizzard or +3 to frozen orb would be semi valuable.
great series!
'hands and gloves' though:p
is there any where we can check the rate on items, maybe a web or a post somewhere?
Has anyone got a spreadsheet for this series? :D
This would be incredibly helpful! Could you provide this for your loyallamas?
Someone make this lol
I made a text file transcript of what he said. So far ive done 3 complete video
I did a clean version on a spreadsheet if someone want to download it. The only issue is youtube keep blocking my link :(. No idea how to share it.
@@fenix7167 maybe post it on reddit?
Basically why I play self-found. Nothing has a real value except HRs, uniques which enable certain builds (like griffons), and "some" rares. If I found a Jah, there seems to be nothing worth of trading it for, but hell there are a lot of items I wish I would have.
Thanks for great content! I think it's also worth mentioning the Diablo 2 Resurrected discord channel, which is great for trading
That Plaguestalker. GG!
Artic belt, gloves and chest is super nice for leveling and combined that with angelic neck and ring Rather solid for starting out, if your are a melee char throw on the angelic saber and you get a super fast hitting weapon with okay stats. Not omg good but okay !
Ive gotten vex+ offers already for a magic amulet i found with 30 res and 35 magic find :D
Take it, they are way overpaying
@@zalcal831 I disagree, there's no unique amulet that has anywhere close to that amount of MF, and it's equivalent to Mara's for resist. It's niche that someone would actually want to use it, but it certainly has the value. That being said, I definitely wouldn't hold out expecting to get more than a Vex, it's rare to find someone who actually wants to use it
@@zalcal831 lol that's a crazy good amulet no clue what game you're playing
@@zalcal831nah not really thats a gg ammy
I swapped out my 35mf for a 27mf+19allRes. I'll take that mf cut for hebres for sure..
That moment you realized you had one item of value multiple time and trashed it every time, because you didn't know that one set piece was good.
you really wanted that fal rune that it was worth, right?
@@elunegracee I wish it was only a fal rune.
@@youbekay What was it? The orphans call Helm?
@@elunegracee imagine if it was the tal armor because "ewww this thing is purple! grosss, purple!" :D
What are the respec essences worth individually?
Can you do an explanation on PvP magic pally shields? I'm not sure what's considered good %ed or increased block chance.. rate. I have a few targes, sacred targes, crown shields I'm sitting on. One lvl 3 4 os 44 all res and I think 9% enhanced defence. Few akaran/sacred targes 4os increased block and enhanced damage all 45+% and +100 attack rating. These worth much? No idea how I'd sell em
Not enough LOVE for Cow Kings Booties! Amazing footwear at lvl 13... +20Dex Fire Damage Run/walk and MF these boots make lvln and Mfn go hand in hand and they rock! And they have real value to those that know from lvl 13-42(B4 Travs/Riders) they are best in slot!
I gave away a +3 to all druid skills helmet cause it didn't have many other stuff on it, was this a mistake?
Does Llama have a discord server? I think I heard him mention it in a previous video, looking for a place to negotiate trades for D2R.
How are you getting all the stash tabs?
Always keep on the lookout for FoH sticks. They're super niche and hardly anyone will buy them, but they're incredibly rare and I expect someone who wants it to pay out the nose.
@Jason Hardin pally scepters with +3 to pcombs and +3 to FoH white with open sockets so you can make a rune word in it
Im an newby, today i try to make an spirot sword in a random 4 soket sword. Sadly ot wasnt a compatible 1. Im sad
My inventory is full is there a safe place to drop my items for safe keeping for another time.
what is the value? if you say the runes range it will help :)
Hero editor at its best on the yellow rings. ROFLMAO.
Llama is the man!
Great vid to post stops a lot of the newer peeps from spamming trade groups with stuff like pieces of sigon and all other listed lol
U need to do a video with the stuff u were going on about at the end I remember some of that godly blue stuff
ESTIMATED RUNE VALUES:
Jah/Ber = 2.6-2.8 HR
SUR = 1.3 HR
Lo = 1.1 HR
Ohm = .9 HR
Vex = .5 HR
Zod = .5 HR
Cham = .25 HR
Gul = .25 HR
Ist = .2 HR
Mal = .1 HR
Um = .01 HR
Pul = .04 HR
Lem = .03 HR
Ko = .01 HR
Lum = .01 HR
Fal = .01 HR
Io = .01 HR
For those who wanted to copy paste the MrLlamaSC rune estimates elsewhere.
Regards.
I copy pasted your table, just needs correction on the Um's value which is 0,06HR
@@marcelonoronha2644 Thanks! And for letting me know!!
when I was young i was sooo dumb and tried trading stuff with no value, and I had NO idea what really was worth anything..
Do you have still fps drops and connection problems? :>
In ssf with Plugy i keep everything :D
oh man, this keeps going
People are always saying how good the loot system is in this game but i disagree, I feel like 99.9% of the drops are worth nothing and are useless. It's like its not worth picking anything up. Plus its so easy to get basic runewords like stealth/ancient's pledge/spirit
I somewhat agree. I think blizz totally threw off the balance of the game when they introduced all those OP runewords. BUT there are a lot of very good uniques that are useful for your character. Just because you can't trade it to someone doesn't mean it's not worth picking up and using.
The loot system is great, the items themselves...not so much
Well you're wrong because 99.9% isn't useless. Even pgems have value and low runes for cube recipes. Many of those runewords you listed are only for leveling and are quite bad in hell - except spirit. This is why people even have multiple accounts to help store everything - if 99.9% was useless then we wouldn't even need mules.
Honest question, once you have a character decked out in all the best stuff, what is your end game personal goal? Holy grail? Just thinking once I get a character fully geared what kinds of personal goals/activities are there to keep me busy in D2? (aside from the obvious of getting all classes geared, etc.), is there something other than the Holy Grail that keeps people cranking away for 2 decades? I love this game, but I've always been an on again off again due to feeling like I ran out of objectives in the end game until a new ladder drops. I'd love to learn more about the depth of the game beyond just getting to the point where you can farm ubers/Hell Baal with little effort. After watching this and learning how little value 90% of uniques and sets have, my little stash of treasures feels so much less special lol
I like to try more obscure builds. Pvp is an option. You can also go play hardcore.
Challenge, from a old d2 not ressurected offline only players 8 sp game with plugY. All classes, nearly all skills are viable, just more or less gear dependent. IE summoning necro is viable through hell naked, summon druid is hell viable with massive stacked auras from rare rws, a ton of plus skills gear and HoW over oak sage, killing baal takes forever but it's doable. Also most sets and uniques are totally viable in the process of leveling on certain characters. Maybe only for a level or so but it's there. I am still going through doing weird stuff with many things I have never done. Thinking a singer next, cause I do not play barbs often.
I found deaths set gloves, but i cant find the hands!
You can get magic find with angelic too. And with both rings i recall
You get attack rating with the rings
@@Stavroization Yes but equipping 3 piece of angelics gives +50 mf set bonus to ring too. so can have +100 with two. and +1 skill with amulet. you just have to sacriface armor or weapon slot for the bonus.
add arctic gloves and belt and thats another 40 mf. Can get quite high mf very low level :)
Crafted gear? Crafted 20%IAS, 4LL, 3ML, 6%CB, +life gloves
I like the old character select screen better.
So when will i get my bachelors degree in Diablo 2?
Im surprised the arctic belt and chest have no value since they’ll net you 50% magic find at level 2 with very low str requirement. Kind of the same for the full Angelic set as it can carry you to at least act 3 in nightmare on a new character and gives 90% magic find
It seems to me MF is more relevant in Hell than earlier difficulties?
As far as i know is the maximum socket amount 3 on the kite shield?
Kite and dragon is 3. But a monarch can have 4
Donrt sleep on cathans amu and rings. With 2 rings and amu u get 10+10 strength and 6+6 lifesteal. Combine that with the strength and lifesteal of sigion and death you will have town of survivability until you hit lvl 25. U can go into a p8 game and solo for epic xp.
Lol Ive never really thought on this a lot but runewords literally killed 90% of uniques and set items. I remember when like Windforce, Stormshield, Grandfather sword, Gris armor on merc (If i remember right), Skullders Ire - these items were GOD tier and thats just naming a few. Like if you found any of those youd dookie your pants. Now they are just very hard to find cheapies. The y can be good placeholders but not going for runewords doesnt make sense they are way over powered. Even low runewords like spirit, stealth, Lore, Insight on Merc - insanely powerful.
Ive never really considered this a bad thing necessarily, finding bases and runes is still fun, just different
Runewords didnt kill them! The runes needed are more rare than the uniques. Its chinese farmers and bots farming runes that hurt the game. So we go back to sorceress is the only teleporting character in the game. And you're not going to be seeing an enigma...
did i miss blackhand's key?
thanks again
Hey everyone,
He does not Cover one important question. How do i find people to Trade with.
Just create a game with a good title or should i go go some Homepage?
Which one is good ?
Sander boots are also gg for LLD.
I've watching your latest videos, and for old values are ok. My concept of values are quite the same, but today everyone is making Uber bosses instead looking for items, there is no bots working as it used to be, so today not is a offer/demand thing, if the people is not finding more items, or if this people is not creating such characters to use those items, some of them will be really valuable while others can be worth anything.
This!
Fully Upped Pluckeye, Lenymo, Biggins, Twitchie, GToes, are End Game Godly Build but no one ever talks bout it. I'm trading high runes for them.
Some of the PvP gear value is absolutely insane. These are usually items that are completely useless for any player that plays the regular game, but these blue items like JMoD or +6/40s are absolutely dumb. That really shows that PvP is something that you only get into when you have played the regular game so much, that RW or Uniques just don't have value anymore, so you go out and get a blue shield for 300 Ist Runes, so you can put 4 perfect light-RBF in them that are also worth a BER-rune each. Fun.
The only thing I understood from these series of videos is that we need more Shared Stash in D2R. Maybe an extra tab or two.
Or ten
HELP. Hey friends, on my second cow run I got a Jah rune drop. Now the problem is I don't know what to do with it. My friends tells me to keep it but I am considering getting some gear for it. My frozen orb sorc is clearing cows very slowly, I have only lore helm and spirit sword. So I don't think I will get any other high runes to be able to make a good rune word but I could definetly get some gear for that Jah to be able to clear content faster. Please advice
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were can I get please a clean copy of diablo2?
Oh and for the IK armor price is a lil off on that one people asking for you’re whole arm and half your leg for it 😂 but for real people been asking tals armor for it
I use a 3 to cold skills and 30%mf magic ammy, what would something like that be worth?
After looking the 4 parts videos so far, as a slightly over casual player, I still can't fathom the idea of getting a Ber/Jah in hand outside of dropping it. Virtually no items outside are worth that much and only a select few are worth around Vex. How players get into getting those runs beside dropping it naturally? Trading items worth Um-Mal slowly into a Ber/Jah? I never was close of getting that rune to make the great Runewords and I wonder how I'll ever get there. Those videos aren't giving me optimism.
Any insight on how it's done during a ladder?
It's about target farming items during different phases of a launch/ladder. White Bases the first 2 days are where all the value is. You can farm Meph on a sorc and hope for a shako, but you can literally farm a few white monarchs in pits the first day and trade for a shako 100% with-in a few hours. At day 3-5, it's all about Key farming for torches. An Unid torch at day 3 sells for like 2 HR.
You can farm key sets for the ubers, or if strong enough you can farm the organs themselves to do ubers. You can also sell respec tokens or pgems. Rushing people for Hell forges can get up to a Gul rune. Those are things that are more consistent to farm than hoping some amazing unique drops. Or just level a sorc and farm meph day and night- he can drop shako/arachs/occulus/tal rashas.
If you are skilled enough making a Pally Smiter early and getting torches to sell can make you rich really quickly.
@@timwegley1668 Farming hell pits on day 1!? I'm not sure how people get there so fast. They must play all day and night.
@@bonehelm people have very different perspectives on the game :D
hey im new to d2 how does he have an infinite number of stashes ? only got 4 :o
Just found a +3 old skills + 2 frozen orb wand 🥶oh and 20 fcr, +9 life
I made $100+ off Mavina's helm back in the day :)
I love Trang set
Was just wonder where part 4 was XD
I got a FCR magic find blue ring. Its worth something?
Probably not cause most people use Nagelring for MF. A blue ring with FCR can only get a max of 15% MF, whereas a Nagelring can get up to 30% MF. I believe a rare ring though can get up to 25% MF, so if it has other good mods like FCR, resistances, life, etc. then it might be worth something.
What about uniques
What mod is he playing?
I found a ist and a pul . Can I get a shako with either of them?
Not even close. If you wait, eventually the price will come down where you could trade for an ist. Current price is somewhere around vex+mal to vex+gul.
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ive got a +3 jav skill+20%ias. It took me a hell lot of glove identify 🤣
look at those boots 17:12