UNEVEN: College Baseball's Scholarship Issue
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::College baseball's scholarship issue::
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Ron Polk wrote an 18 page letter to the NCAA about this 20 years ago. They tossed it in the trash.
Heck of a job Matt. More people need to be aware of this issue.
great work. this affected my recruitment in baseball. had full ride offers in state. my family would not have been able to afford out of state tuition with a partial scholarship. it was all or nothing. Affects recruiting and opportunity. even for middle class families. as others have said, you know who is on what kind of scholarship. creates animosity amongst the team. this is a real issue and should be resolved. also, a lot of guys who show up with scholarships end up giving them up for the team bc their parents can afford to pay. it should not be that way. it should not be a parents financial burden to aid in recruiting while the NCAA is bringing in millions.
Undeniably excellent work, Matt. Hopefully this goes viral. Hopefully these players are treated with at least an ounce of dignity.
Knocked it out of the park Matt. It's an utter shame that more AD's and coaches(and this doc is loaded with them) didn't sit down for interviews. You did a great job showing the inconsistencies without blaming the programs. Well done sir.
Excellent job, as always, Wyatt.
Good content.
This is a long overdue explanation of the college scholarship programs across D1 sports.
Colleges simply charge too much for the education and housing they are providing. When the lottery system started providing scholarships, tuition dramatically increased. Tuition must be reduced for all students, not just athletes.
The cost of tuition is way to high anyway.
Texas fan here - seeing bednar at around 2:50 just gave me PTSD
As a former ACC baseball player. This issue is talked about amongst the players on a near weekly basis. It was always uncomfortable to know that your teammate, best friend and brother on the field may be on more or less scholarship percentage than yourself or other teammates. It was also very frustrating to know that softball (baseballs female equivalent) had nearly half the players on roster but more athletic scholarships. It needs to change but unfortunately I don’t see it changing anytime soon
Baseball and Softball are both considered equivalency sports and both get 11.7 scholarships at the Div 1 level.
@@ejweeke804 Should have been stated 'more scholarships per # of players'
Why do you need 35 players on the team eating up scholarships.
@@Bruss813 Not everyone can pitch everyday, watch a weekend series and you'll notice the roster management
@@gavin2391 16 position players and 9 pitchers. That 25 players .
Clemson baseball HAD the Academic Common Market for student/players from out of state and my son benefitted from that tremendously. Now that is gone and if you look at their roster....there arent many out of state kids on the team. Mis State offered and had a dollar amount tied to that for Georgia kids with a 26 ACT score. My son basically went 3 years (drafted in 2018) for free playing baseball @ Clemson with a combo of the baseball scholarship, academic monies and ACM tuition which is very rare. He now has the MLB insurance program to finish school once done with baseball to get his bachelors and/or masters.
Great pitcher we miss him. Go tigers
Matt--You have done a great job with this documentary. Your interview skills are top-notch. You get honest answers on delicate subjects from high-level insiders.
Absolutely tremendous job Matt! I know this took a lot of time and money but this should be something you're able to follow up on each year in "installment" form to continue to shine a light and be a catalyst for change.
Great work Matt loved it! Hopefully this will bring some more ppl to light on the subject and things get in motion to make some much needed changes
Amazing job by Matt Wyatt !! This is an issue that needs to be addressed. Hoping this begins to open eyes and start conversations that have been long needed to occur.
This has me in tears being a African American father that grew up loving the game an have a son that plays 9u travel baseball an absolutely love it. Thx for talking about it publicly an its not just locker room talk praise to this piece. This is were change begins open conversation... let's fight for our kids 😤
Now I understand why the afterschool program my son went to is pushing football and basketball so hard for the low income kids even though they have a little league baseball diamond litterally right outside their door and could have made a dominant baseball team. Really really disappointing.
I've watched this 3 times and I agree with you. My son plays 15u majors and does very well. It's been heartbreaking to tell him he may need to put down his bat and glove down because he needs to seek a football scholarship (which he doesn't love but is really good) vs his first love baseball.
This was a fantastic piece. I’m am currently in the process of helping my son choose a D1 school to commit to on a baseball scholarship. I’m having to steer him based on me covering 70% of $100,000 to $300,000. He deserves to go to the best school that wants him most but unfortunately I’m going to have to tell him some schools are just out of my budget. Baseball Scholarships don’t even cover tuition much less room and board.
Something has to be done to make it equal opportunity for everyone. It should be about who can afford to play but who is the best player no matter what background. Great job matt
Well done, Matt. You continue to create first-rate content.
Great work my friend. I’m looking forward to more opportunities in college baseball so this game can continue to grow. There’s no sport I love more than college baseball and I would love to see more of these talented players go to college over getting drafted out of high school.
As a parent looking (I hope one day) at baseball scholarships I learned a lot. Thank you!
Outstanding work Matt. Hopefully this will help bring more attention to the issue.
Spot on, Matt. I hope this is seen by many. I will do my part and share to my world. Very well done.
Great job Matt! It is really a eye opener!
I'm brazilian and a baseball lover, here I try to build up the materials because they always have to be imported.😭😭😭
This was absolutely outstanding, thank you for making it and sharing it. I am a Canadian diehard baseball fan, who knows almost nothing about NCAA baseball so this just gripped me. I am so jealous of how much baseball you guys have in the USA, all the levels of minor leagues and everything...
Great job, really good work for a very important issue!
I especially liked the explanation of how the scholarship issue impacts minority participation at the lower levels, knowing that scholarship opportunities are limited at the college level. Also seeing how this issue funnels great athletes into other sports where the scholarship opportunities exist. PLEASE FIX THIS ASAP!!!
Excellent work. I finally understand the issue with Vanderbilt’s scholarship advantage that I was denying existed.
Except even after the financial aid, Vanderbilt students are still paying more on average than the rest of the SEC. So, how is that an advantage.
I made the USA 12u team in the late 90's and i could go to key west to play ! Cause i was born into a lower middle class family and my parents didnt have the money !! The same happened to me after high school with the UT Vols, UVA and UNC
Wow, Matt. Great work!
0:01 on this field is the next roger clemens or the next JOSE CANSECO!
Matt, superb video!!!
Fantastic work.
This was excellent!!! Great job.
Matt why did Vandy ignore your request? Please tell me if they were just busy!
If someone watched this and had no idea this had been going on for decades would never believe it. All SEC states have an advantage over Mississippi.
Great, thought provoking work Matt!
I learned so much from this. Thank you
Love it Matt!
amazing doc
Very well done and what a crying shame. I hope something can be done in the near future.
Its greed.by not just colleges, but im the mlb has had a hand in this. Of course they love the crazy, global growth of the game and there are so many things in place(some of mlbs direct doing) that contribute to american players(as a whole) being at a disadvantage in compared to other countries.
Great work sir
Great job.
Good documentary. I would say that a lot of people lose interest in baseball when you start having to join traverl teams to advance. How many people can afford that?
Awesome. Thanks.
Superb re[porting Matt.
Hail State! National Champions! 🏆🐶🐾
Good information
The fact that the 85th kid on a football roster is on full ride and not a top 3 player on a baseball team is ridiculous.
great job my friend ! hail state !
College Baseball has a lot of issues. For starters it's not a good sport for colleges north of the Mason-Dixon line. Michigan, for example doesn't get a home game until mid-March due to weather.
Northern Teams can't compete with southern teams, which is why 2019 was a record year for viewers of the College World Series - a northern team, specifically Michigan had a Cinderella story.
But considering that the last college football playoff game had 22 Million, and the Michigan vs. Illinois regular season basketball game had 1.5 millions viewers - 2.2 million viewers for a championship game isn't really a bragging point.
Until College Baseball becomes more equitable in the north - and with a starting date of mid-February I don't know how that will happen, I see College Baseball on a whole continuing to be a second tier college sporting event. (the south possibly being the exception)
Well done. Hard to believe we're still operating on this system. It's a real shame.
Damn... I never knew this... I always thought that the baseball coaches I talked to were being cheap with my offers IF I even got an offer... I was a poor kid too. I wonder how much that had to do with things...
HI Matt, I'm watching this today (10/03/2023). My 16 yr. did not make his HS baseball team. Now that I've seen this video, has anything changed? Thank you so much for this eye opener.
Explain to me why football (which I love) should get 85 scholarships? They don't need a roster near that big when only around 30-35 kids ever see the field in a given year. Seems to me they could lose 15 to baseball and it would be great. Or maybe just implement "flex" scholarships that allow reappropriating them across sports.
That’s not how it works. 30-35 players see the field on a small town high school team. In college, it’s upwards of 50 hence why the travel roster is 55ish. All defenses play at least 2 deep at every position in a game and DLine is usually 3 deep. Offense is similar for skill positions along with 2 backup olinemen. Plus, football is a brutal game with more specialized positions. Season ending injuries are much more likely. Additionally, freshman need to be on scholarship so that they come to the school. If you don’t offer the young bucks scholarships, they will not attend that institution and your program will implode. Also, the scholarships given to football are typically done so with the explicit instructions of the donor they can’t just be flexed to baseball. Now I love baseball as much as the next guy. However, it needs to seek out private donations from alumni and lobby the NCAA to raise the limit. Don’t hurt football for no reason because baseball is suffering
Softball is the fasted growing revenue sport in college right now. Make Softball and Baseball Full ride. You can also add scholarships to women's soccer or women's track and field. This can help with title 9. At the very least let baseball have 19.7 scholarships. This is roughly 73% scholarship average overall an increase from 43% overall and increase the minimum scholarship to 50% an increase from 25% minimum.
College period has always been on BS when it comes to money. Another great American scam. Picking the pockets of parents FOR YEARS!!!! I went to Oklahoma University on a half scholarship for baseball back in 1985. Me and another guy had to split a full scholarship. My parents got half of their pockets picked, way back then even.
One option is conspicuously absent. Pull the sport out of schools. No reason why a profitable sport, which college baseball is, has to be under the umbrella of a school. The sport is able to stand on its own in most cases. Let the schools lease facilities out to a club. Let the club PAY THE PLAYERS and then any student athletes can use the money to pay for their tuition and fees. Of course, that means eliminating the MLB's monopoly, which is likely the greatest hurdle of all; it's also the thing most hurting baseball's growth today.
IDK it's tough to make a case or come up with a solution when it would make baseball even more uneven by benefiting schools who can afford to give more money.
I think what is really UNEVEN is that college baseball players have to play 3 years before they can be drafted. Same as Football but Football doesn't have to compete with kids coming out of high school for the draft. Basketball often has one and done.
I Love This!!!!
Wow, this is great and factual.
I coached a team of kids that were looking to play fall baseball and couldn’t afford a travel team. It was a 18U team but had a few 13 year olds. A 14 year old player hit a grandslam off a senior in highschool varsity pitcher but that was his last time to touch a bat. Football offered more opportunity as a black player raised by a single mom and coached by his granddad.
*VANDY BASEBALL HAS THE HIGHEST ADVANTAGE*
well done documentary, well thought out, well presented; compelling viewing
Shocker! A law/mandate in the name of equality actually creates INequality. What else is new? You’d think that there’d be another way to provide opportunities to all races and sexes without having to take away opportunities from one select group. How many thousands(including myself and my family) have had to either take less or take nothing at all because of Title 9 and in the name of equality? It’s not “fair” or “equal” to tell one person no and another yes when the person being told no is just as qualified or more than the one being told yes. Actually, that is the opposite of fair. It’s wrong. Fair is not taking from one so you can give to another based on gender or skin tone. Rant over.
It’s been like that for centuries in America 🤷🏾♂️
Did Sankey really say because OM made it to the championship game in the SEC tourney vs Vandy that shows that it doesn’t create an advantage? How did he say something that ignorant with a straight face. And Byrne using the Coastal Carolina analogy? What? It just shows that some schools go above and beyond to be the best with what they have available(Mississippi State) and others just simply buy their way to the top(Vandy). The only thing anyone needs to hear is when Cohen makes the football comparison with AL and AU.
Buy their way? Or maybe they have a heck of a coach that can recruit top talent. This hit piece did everything it could to disparage an excellent baseball coach and an even better human being. State fans moan constantly about Opportunity Vanderbilt and 11.7. Does it create an advantage? To a degree it does. Do you know what does not create an advantage? Vanderbilt's high academic standards, class workloads, it's tuition and cost of living, being a small private school. I can go on. As far as I am concerned, Opp Vandy only levels the playing field for them with other SEC schools. You guys sure don't mind whining about baseball advantages, but completely turn your cheek to the advantages being a state school offers in football and basketball.
Unfortunately the chances of something happening are slim to none.
Very few college baseball teams make money. if you want more scholarships put more people in the stands and get a more lucrative TV contract. While college baseball has a legitimate gripe against Title IX as almost no women's sports are in the black, most college football and, to a lesser extent, basketball teams have profits in the millions, thus more scholarships. Whenever the government interferes in a market (Title IX) the results are always disastrous. If you are a female HS athlete and a college or university doesn't offer scholarships in your sport, go somewhere else. Why should any institution of higher education be forced by the government to offer x number of scholarships in any sport? The free market always does a better job at meeting a need than artificially set government parameters. If a school doesn't offer a particular women's sport where there's a demand, some other school will to their benefit.
Interesting clearly you didn’t watch the doc. Baseball is number 2 in NCAA revenue. That’s more than football. What are you taking. About?
@@WarrenFranceSportsNetwork that’s only because a crap ton of schools have baseball that don’t have football hence higher numbers. On a per school basis, almost all have football and MBB making the money while the other sports pale in comparison
@@WarrenFranceSportsNetwork If you watched the doc, it was stated clearly that football is not counted in NCAA revenue as it has a different accounting structure than every other sport. If it were indeed counted as NCAA revenue, you would see that it generates more revenue than all other sports combined.
Gotta cover those equestrians...
Auctioning players is the core of college baseball.
I hear a lot of people complaining about Vanderbilt’s scholarship advantage, but I’m just not seeing it. According to this video, the median award for a need based scholarship at Vandy would be $53k meaning they’d still be out of pocket for $14k a year. A quick Google search shows the in-state tuition at State is $9k. The other schools featured prominently in this documentary (wonder why?) are similar so Vandy has no advantage over those schools at all considering a non-scholarship recruit would have to pay more to go to Vanderbilt than he would at other schools in the league. It seems like Georgia has the biggest advantage but since they’re not a consistent challenger it’s not worth carrying on about. The only real advantage Vandy would have is by recruiting a kid from an impoverished background, but as this documentary points out, there are very few of those kids today. Most ball players are from middle class backgrounds meaning that most Vanderbilt baseball players would likely be receiving much less than the median amount suggested. Definitely would be nice to see some change to the 11.7 but the back half of this documentary is really misleading.
$45,000 for out of state UA? Really? What a damn rip-off! Why is no one asking why that tuition is so high in the first place for out of state?
Baseball doesn't make the school a dime. 35 players per team is insane when only 9 can take the field and the risk of injury is low.
Frank Thomas.
The Phillies passed on him to select a high schooler,Jeff Jackson.He never made the majors.
My theory is that the best black high school players were playing football or basketball at the time-and still do-so the baseball players in inner city leagues are not facing the best competition.
and here comes the race card.SMH
I can honestly see why kids get drafted out of highschool and bypass college altogether.
I know two different women that got scholarships for rowing at two different schools that had previously never rowed a day in their lives. They were both rich, no need for an athletic scholarship and certainly hadn’t earned one. People prop up women in completely nonsensical ways and then pat themselves on the back as if they’ve made such an incredible difference in the world
Were the scholarships “full” or partial. Not sure how many full awards the programs have.
Rowing programs often recruit big athletes who may not have rowed in HS just because the prediction is such a recruit will do well in crew.
@@krisandnancyboucher1277 im guessing partial. They’re super nice girls but certainly not star athletes.
Bottom line is that Football, men’s basketball and a few women’s basketball programs are the only sports that make money. Universities aren’t there to “give” students an education/experience. They’re there to make money. It’s a business. I loved baseball all my life but chose football over it because it paid for my college.
I see where we are outlining that it is unfair to have players in a revenue producing sport pay to play. Is it still unfair to play a sport that is producing revenue and not get paid?
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This is much more than a racial issue. NIL will help but as long a Title IX rules the roost and NCAA policies stay status quo… I don’t know…enjoyable documentary, thanks!
Just take 8 full ride scholarships from football (85 to 77), and 2 from basketball (13 to 11), and give to baseball (11.7 to 21.7). Problem solved.
They make money now. N I L has ruined college athletics. The way the portal is now is also ridiculous. They have players in some sports that are in their 3rd season and playing for their 3rd different school. Some because they don’t start but mostly chasing the dollar. This can be fixed but they are taking too long. They shouldn’t be making a dime on their name or image or likeness. I don’t have the solution but IMO they should have to pay every player and every player should make the same amount. As long as they keep it like it is (no rules) it’ll never get fixed and it won’t be fair. I’m not saying that football players and beach volleyball players or baseball and tennis players making the same. I’m all for those guys making money. They deserve it.
You can't be going to the Dominican Republic and taking more of them and making Americans do this. Dominican ball is a lower ball. Keeping our real talent down. Dominicans and Cubans don't even gotta make a GPA! It's bull. These rich crap A people have put money before OUR AMERICAN KIDS! STOP IT NOW!!!??
These are not kids. They are adults playing games
Sounds like a bunch of sour sec fans and coaches that wish they were Vanderbilt.
big shocker, young men getting screwed over in academia.
Should have looked into the unfair advantages at Vanderbilt. People wonder why they have the best recruiting classes pretty much every year? Well it’s because they play by a complete different set of rules to everyone else.
Can you give more details?
I’ll agree travel baseball has caused a dilemma in baseball but I can’t agree it’s pushing kids out who can’t afford it. There are low budget teams with volunteer dads who just charge tournament fees and play only local tournaments who don’t need to travel every weekend. I don’t think it pushes the black community out. In reality no sport will ever be racially 50/50. Look at basketball 16% white players, nfl has 25% white players. All sports has a travel or aau component that costs more money than recreation ball. If the kid truly loves the game find a team that can fit your financial income.
So sad to see that Miles kid ,used to be baseball player , is racist and would Not play because of the skin color of people on the field.. what are you teaching your children??
That's what I was thinking. Who cares what the other kids look like? Do you like to play baseball or not? If it's the lack of full ride scholarships then say so, not that the other kids were not black. Wow!
This video is playing games with statistics to exaggerate the financial positives of NCAA baseball. Less than a half a dozen programs turn a profit, so college baseball players are not generating significant profits that are used to pay for other sports. On the other hand, 11.7 scholarships is too few, but that's just the world of Title IX and opposition to increase scholarships from conferences, who aren't good in baseball, like the Big Ten and the many tiny athletic department budgets of the more than two hundred bottom feeders in Division 1 baseball.
There needs to be a division in college baseball like football. Those schools and conferences that can afford to reach the next level of schorships and financials and those that can’t.
Left to their own devices Americans will complicate anything. Our Government votes on 1,000-page pieces of legislation all the time without ever even reading them... So what this documentary mentions.... perhaps comes as no surprise-- But that doesn't mean it is any less disappointing.
I have an idea.... LEAVE THE NCAA!!!!!!
We should of never let women vote!
You cannot love baseball young man either come in at a high school college may not be loved back
Baseball isn’t attractive to poor families. Full scholarships are unheard of. Lucky if you get a one forth ride.. MLB put there development money out of the country where the buck goes further. Yes its true life is not fair., well unless your a female athlete then its more than fair
Your premise has been widely discussed. Your ability to avoid the fact that baseball is historically a father-to-son sport and statistically black youths are far more likely to grow up without a father is tragic and only fuels the problem you claim to care about.
Since 1968 fatherless homes have more than doubled and among black families it’s significantly higher than any other demographic (census bureau). Your manipulation of facts to avoid this widely known reason for the lack of black baseball players is feeding the problem and doing the opposite of solving the issue. You single out the one (and only) black father you interviewed who said his son doesn’t see kids like him out there. I bet he mentioned the lack of fathers involvement and you edited that inconvenient fact out. It’s a massive discussion in the black community, hence my strong belief that the only black father interviewed brought this up.
Football and basketball can be taught far more easily from other kids. It’s truly tragic how hard you try and spin this without discussing the very widely known reason for the disparity. Go to a baseball tournament or showcase, regardless of color… baseball players tend to have male father figures in their lives supporting them and teaching them. Unfortunately young black men statistically do not have male father figures anywhere near the rate they did back in the early 1960s where the marriage rate was higher than caucasians (blackdemographics.com & census bureau).
Ps I’ll get out in front of this as well… to anyone that has feelings about these facts, your feelings are not facts. They are just feelings.
U.S.A. The country that can't afford to offer free College.
Title IX was a good idea, but it was bad in practice. More men want and do play sports. Men's volleyball. men's soccer men's lacrosse, track, swimming, bowling and others get less scholarships per team than women's sports. Not everything needs to be equal to be equitable. It only works that way if you first divide people by group rather than as an individual. Guys who want free college should spend their time following Lia Thomas and conveniently switch to women's sports. They will be better players than the women, and we all know women can have penises. That's a sick thought, but with private colleges costing 80K a year, and academia cheering on the destruction of women's sports and their collective identity, a smart kid who needs free college should take advantage. Bring a buddy or two. They will improve the performance of any women's team. Mayne they'll get drafted to the WNBA
A lot of crying - blame football. That is where your scholarships are and it brings in the $. Sure baseball at several schools does make money and a tiny few could make a lot...but definitely not FOOTBALL type money. Hey, if you quit football you could offer more in baseball. LOL Football eats 85 scholarships that then must allow women. The same problem happens with hockey schools. Just a lot of biased crying in this video. Does it suck if you play baseball - Sure. But I do not hear you making the argument for the men in track, cross country, tennis, etc.
Title IX is definitely part of the problem. There are more men than women interested in playing sports, why should there have to be equal scholarship money? It would be ridiculous to require schools to offer equal scholarship money for nursing or engineering. It just takes opportunity away from whichever sex has the majority interest.
Football carries its own weight, i.e. it makes money. Title IX is to blame for this, nothing else.