you are truly a gentleman. share techniques and secrets of your art that 90% of people would jealously guard. here in Italy we say: the difference between a champion and a teacher is that if the first has to teach you something he will always have secrets because he knows that sooner or later you could reach his level, the second instead has no secrets in teaching you because he knows that his skill is such that by the time you get to his level he will probably already be dead of old age. Greetings from italy.
I've been in Portugal for the past month, I come back and the first TTT video that I watch, everything's different, you're in a new place with a big sword and a fantasy map behind you... What the hell have I missed?!?!
The big branches that come directly off the trunk are called main branches A tip to making trees look natural: The angle between a branch and the trunk or the branch it grows out from is usually ninety degrees. in nature, when the angle is smaller, the joint is weak, and tends to split and break in high winds.
sweet. glad I came across this episode. That'll give me the best way to try and mimic a tree in my own yard. its got about a foot long trunk and the rest sprouts out four other lengths. now I have the good idea to attack it.
i used the thin green wire in 1 of ur videos to make my trees worked out pretty good lol also in ur fuliage video u mentioned 3 types of foam well i use the med dense foam not the real dense stuff or the loose foam but the solid yellow foam an i havent had any problems with it i use a magic bullet to grind it all up mix it with paint an glue an comes out perfect u dont need pva glue elmers glue works just as good :)
In regards to covering the wire frame, I recall someone mentioning Rust Oleum Leak Seal for wire trees. It's basically liquid rubber in a spray can, used for automotive and repair work, and when used on wire trees it helps cover up the wires better and gives some texture. As a bonus, it helps seal it in and gives you a black basecoat to begin painting with. Personally I'd wrap it with teflon tape before spraying Leak Seal on it to help with hiding the wire. Spraying seems like a fair bit easier way than the usual methods people do to give a bark-like look to the tree, and especially handy if you have to do a bunch of trees at once. Remember, it doesn't have to _look_ exactly like a tree, just have the _impression_ of one!
TheTerrainTutor No prob! Hopefully you can find it over there in the UK. I see it a lot over here in the states in places like Home Depot and Lowes, so maybe it goes under a different name for you guys.
God, you're gonna make me bark. That was baaaad, I think you might have a problem to root out. However, I'm gonna leaf this thread before I turn green.
TheTerrainTutor 👍 no worries dude. Watching a lot of your vids at the moment as I've only just started building dioramas! You got any videos on building stone country walls?
It looks wonderful Mel. Almost a shame to hide all that with leaves. It would be great for Autumn trees. Think I'd wear my glasses doing the initial phases. Looks a little eye-pokey-outie.
Hello TTT, I loved your alternative method of creating wire-wrapped trees. I will go from here to watch the other videos you have posted for this series. I am especially looking forward to the "Species Specific" video. During this video you questioned what the term is for additional tree trunks. I can help with that bit of trivia. This information may be help in the designing of different types of trees. I am not certain, though, since this video is the first of your series I have watched. Perhaps you have already included these variables in your designs. However, if you are truly curious about this, read on; otherwise, just ignore the rest of my comment ... :o) Multi-trunk trees can result via a number of means which then gives different terms to the additional trunks. ***Foresters and Arborist, please note I am stating the variables very simplistically*** In a single trunk tree (like a conifer), the trunk is called a 'Leader'. A typically single trunk tree of decent size may be cut down, burned etc. and regrow as a multi-trunked tree. Deciduous hardwood species (cone-bearers will not do this) have adapted to regrow from 'stems' that sprout from the residual stump of a single-trunk leader. This is called coppicing (cop-piss-ing). The number of these stems surviving to mature trunks depends on the size of the stump (also called a stool) from which they sprout. The larger the stump, the more stems it can support into maturity. These stems tend to be more straight in growth than the original tree. In historic times (especially when wood and coal were the primary means of heating, smithing, and cook fires) of places like Britain where lumber was a limited resource, this was a deliberate form of conservation and sustainability. The terms low, middle, and high forest arose from this practice: low being from stump, middle being trees cut higher up on the trunk, and high from "standards" or mature trees left in a harvested forest area. The individual trunks resulting in this situation are called 'Stems". A multi-trunk tree can form from this coppicing if the stems fuse together early on and remained fused to over 4.5 feet.. The different stems will then flair outward and branch individually. These would still be called 'stems'. There is the "low Forking" category in which trees branch at lower than 4.5 feet above the root collar. In such cases, the split trunks are just called branches though the tree may have the appearance of multiple trunks.. A tree can sprout 'suckers' or basal shoots. These are separate growths that sprout from the tree's base or root system from meristem cells. These undifferentiated cells (like human stem cells) produce exact clones of the original tree. If allowed to grow, they would eventually become what foresters would consider a separate tree, despite the shared root system. This is consider a form of propagation vs regrowth such as coppicing. Then you have Gemels (meaning twins) , or 2 trees of either the same or closely related species which 'self-graft' by growing in close proximity until they touch. Over time, wind motion causes them to abrade the bark down to the 'living' layer of the tree, the cambium. Then, the trees inosculate (conjoin). This can happen at the root, trunk, or branch. These differ from the above scenarios in that they have separate root systems whereas stems and basal shoots appear on the stump or from the base of a single root system. Lastly, you have aerial root trees like Cypress and Banyans which form multiple trunks by sending 'shoots' down from the branches. These shoots root in the ground yet remain attached to the parent tree. The shoots eventually harden into trunks themselves. So the additional trunks on the parent tree are called shoots. There are other instances involving vines and bushes but since you are making trees, I limited my answer to the main forms of 'multi-trunk' instances of trees. Hope you found these examples interesting and helpful to your designs. I look forward to viewing your other videos... Which I am off to do right now!
These tree tutorials are wonderful, but I wonder: Will there be a future tutorial dealing with coniferous trees, on how to sculpt and flock them? While I haven't yet tried to make them (need to master the basics first), they strike me as being rather more... fiddly to make.
Im doing one now, started out with a piece of PVC pipe, wrapped it in aluminum foil not real tight. Once wrapped starting from the root buttresses...near the ground.. I pinched lines going up the trunk in random patterns. Running the foil up past the pipe you can mold the hollow. I used collected roots for branches applied with a hot glue gun. You can create more texture for the bark and the roots with the glue gun also. Ta da anchient old live oak
Weight and Stability. If I have a "standard" base of plaster covered polystyrene, how am I going to fix this and keep it stable as I reckon it will weigh about 150gm? Love the videos!
Run a dowel from underneath the trunk and use that as a pin mate. Or run really long fine roots out across the piece and then texture the piece, essentially using roots as roots mate
Seems amazing as end result* and easy enough for the worst hobbyist in the whole branch.. 🤔😢 0.6 or 0.8mm is better? A shop here sells 600 of 0.8mm rods for 6.28$ or 4.85£ and 900 per 0.6m for the same price (thats around 220m i think) However tommorow im just going to be an idiot.. ie myself and try my own method. Using 1+mm that cant bend much as base braches and gluing 1mm thin ones to the base with hot glue. Will hide the base smooth texture by all purpose slow glue with thin ropes and PvA on top with grinded coffee and pellet dust. Yeah, i have an extremely bad feeling about something going down south with this idea
you are truly a gentleman.
share techniques and secrets of your art that 90% of people would jealously guard.
here in Italy we say:
the difference between a champion and a teacher is that if the first has to teach you something he will always have secrets because he knows that sooner or later you could reach his level, the second instead has no secrets in teaching you because he knows that his skill is such that by the time you get to his level he will probably already be dead of old age.
Greetings from italy.
The craftmanship goes beyond just modelling and terrain into artistry. Magnificent!
I personally like to texture trees by applying layers of thin scrunched up paper soaked in pva.
Wow the most amazing tree armature I've seen so far in a tutorial! Thanks!
This is amazing! I was looking for part 2 where you put the bark on it but couldnt find it. Would love to see how you finished it.
Just made my first wire tree. I’m hooked now.
Welcome to the club buddy!
I've been in Portugal for the past month, I come back and the first TTT video that I watch, everything's different, you're in a new place with a big sword and a fantasy map behind you... What the hell have I missed?!?!
Moved to my first proper studio matey!
TheTerrainTutor Very nice! I'm sure you're sick of explaining, but how's it going?
*****
it's going great matey
Nice! Trunk is also called a Stem, a tree with two trunks or stem is called a codominant tree, cool tree , thanks for sharing
Initially it looked crazy and I won't use this technique, but wow, watching the rest of the video it works out great.
The big branches that come directly off the trunk are called main branches A tip to making trees look natural: The angle between a branch and the trunk or the branch it grows out from is usually ninety degrees. in nature, when the angle is smaller, the joint is weak, and tends to split and break in high winds.
Known as boughs.
sweet. glad I came across this episode. That'll give me the best way to try and mimic a tree in my own yard. its got about a foot long trunk and the rest sprouts out four other lengths. now I have the good idea to attack it.
Good luck buddy!
Mel you have out done yourself, that is an amazing tree, best yet, can't wait to see the finished product, and that's a wrap.
Blimey, that looks really good! Can't wait to see the next steps!
I found it fast to use a glue gun to cover the wire, instead of using putty/plaster.
Will be using this method on my next project. awesome method.
Amazingly naturalistic and intricate. Awesome work, Mel.
stunning tree Mel.
You promised me Deserts Mel ! I want my Deserts !
i used the thin green wire in 1 of ur videos to make my trees worked out pretty good lol also in ur fuliage video u mentioned 3 types of foam well i use the med dense foam not the real dense stuff or the loose foam but the solid yellow foam an i havent had any problems with it i use a magic bullet to grind it all up mix it with paint an glue an comes out perfect u dont need pva glue elmers glue works just as good :)
In regards to covering the wire frame, I recall someone mentioning Rust Oleum Leak Seal for wire trees. It's basically liquid rubber in a spray can, used for automotive and repair work, and when used on wire trees it helps cover up the wires better and gives some texture. As a bonus, it helps seal it in and gives you a black basecoat to begin painting with.
Personally I'd wrap it with teflon tape before spraying Leak Seal on it to help with hiding the wire. Spraying seems like a fair bit easier way than the usual methods people do to give a bark-like look to the tree, and especially handy if you have to do a bunch of trees at once. Remember, it doesn't have to _look_ exactly like a tree, just have the _impression_ of one!
oh, I'll add that to the terrain lab list mate, thanks for the heads up!
TheTerrainTutor
No prob! Hopefully you can find it over there in the UK. I see it a lot over here in the states in places like Home Depot and Lowes, so maybe it goes under a different name for you guys.
phalanx1234
There's bound to be an equivalent if it isn't available mate
Plz do the barking soon I really want to make one of these lol
You make me want to go get some floral wire
Very creative very beautiful
Thank you for this tutorial. You did such a great job. The tree is so realistic! ❤❤❤
That is a great tree good show
All right mate, now that you've got a tree you can start barking... you're definitely marking your territory!
The effect is great. Many thanks
Great Stuff!!! Great Looking Tree!!!!
bloody brilliant!
Great tutorial, thanks so much 🙂👍🏻
Awesome stuff
Thanks for posting this! Great job and excellent teaching!
No worries
amazing as always , got me thinking now on combining both formats
Huzzah! top notch build.
I might be wrong but I thought they were called the limbs of a tree. love your videos btw man.
Yeeesssssss! More trees!!!
Treemendous as always.
Absolutely Fantastic 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽. Looking forward to learn next step from you😊. Thank u sooo much for ur Great Tutorial 🙏🏽
Wow, this is beautiful!
I like trees!
me too
it's lovely ...
Nice to see you branching out :) Excellent tree by the way.
Minty Moore ☺☺☺
hello
God, you're gonna make me bark. That was baaaad, I think you might have a problem to root out. However, I'm gonna leaf this thread before I turn green.
I used this technique on my latest diorama thanks 👍
Nice one mate
TheTerrainTutor 👍 no worries dude. Watching a lot of your vids at the moment as I've only just started building dioramas! You got any videos on building stone country walls?
yep, in the lets make playlist mate
Wow. Was just sitting making wire armatures, thinking I need something to watch...
perfect timing, wondering if you've changed your build technique now lol
great job!!!
Hi great videos I do learn and enjoy them. BUT - WOW.... I Did not get that first bit about wrap around with wire.
Help...Help..help😂.
Cheerz😊
It looks wonderful Mel. Almost a shame to hide all that with leaves. It would be great for Autumn trees.
Think I'd wear my glasses doing the initial phases. Looks a little eye-pokey-outie.
It does get a bit spikey!
Large branches are known as boughs and small branches are known as twigs.
This is great, thank you!!
Glad you liked it!
O yer and
"bough" refers to branches coming directly from the trunk.
Magnifique 😃
Bel lavoro....brabo👍👍👍👍
The bigest question in this video. Is Mel "the loveliest Mum" as his cup said? :-D
Yes I am :-D
I just call them big branches 😜
Nice one good timing I am working on a last of us themed board
Love this guy
It looks like you need alot of hand strength for pulling & twisting those wires.
high quality h2O
Tree trunk - LIMB - branch - stem - twig
Is there a follow-up on the rest of the tree-making? I'm interested because I'm building winter terrain and I need bare trees :)
I was always told they were called trunk branches.
Hello TTT,
I loved your alternative method of creating wire-wrapped trees. I will go from here to watch the other videos you have posted for this series. I am especially looking forward to the "Species Specific" video.
During this video you questioned what the term is for additional tree trunks. I can help with that bit of trivia. This information may be help in the designing of different types of trees. I am not certain, though, since this video is the first of your series I have watched. Perhaps you have already included these variables in your designs. However, if you are truly curious about this, read on; otherwise, just ignore the rest of my comment ... :o)
Multi-trunk trees can result via a number of means which then gives different terms to the additional trunks.
***Foresters and Arborist, please note I am stating the variables very simplistically***
In a single trunk tree (like a conifer), the trunk is called a 'Leader'. A typically single trunk tree of decent size may be cut down, burned etc. and regrow as a multi-trunked tree. Deciduous hardwood species (cone-bearers will not do this) have adapted to regrow from 'stems' that sprout from the residual stump of a single-trunk leader. This is called coppicing (cop-piss-ing). The number of these stems surviving to mature trunks depends on the size of the stump (also called a stool) from which they sprout. The larger the stump, the more stems it can support into maturity. These stems tend to be more straight in growth than the original tree. In historic times (especially when wood and coal were the primary means of heating, smithing, and cook fires) of places like Britain where lumber was a limited resource, this was a deliberate form of conservation and sustainability. The terms low, middle, and high forest arose from this practice: low being from stump, middle being trees cut higher up on the trunk, and high from "standards" or mature trees left in a harvested forest area. The individual trunks resulting in this situation are called 'Stems".
A multi-trunk tree can form from this coppicing if the stems fuse together early on and remained fused to over 4.5 feet.. The different stems will then flair outward and branch individually. These would still be called 'stems'.
There is the "low Forking" category in which trees branch at lower than 4.5 feet above the root collar. In such cases, the split trunks are just called branches though the tree may have the appearance of multiple trunks..
A tree can sprout 'suckers' or basal shoots. These are separate growths that sprout from the tree's base or root system from meristem cells. These undifferentiated cells (like human stem cells) produce exact clones of the original tree. If allowed to grow, they would eventually become what foresters would consider a separate tree, despite the shared root system. This is consider a form of propagation vs regrowth such as coppicing.
Then you have Gemels (meaning twins) , or 2 trees of either the same or closely related species which 'self-graft' by growing in close proximity until they touch. Over time, wind motion causes them to abrade the bark down to the 'living' layer of the tree, the cambium. Then, the trees inosculate (conjoin). This can happen at the root, trunk, or branch. These differ from the above scenarios in that they have separate root systems whereas stems and basal shoots appear on the stump or from the base of a single root system.
Lastly, you have aerial root trees like Cypress and Banyans which form multiple trunks by sending 'shoots' down from the branches. These shoots root in the ground yet remain attached to the parent tree. The shoots eventually harden into trunks themselves. So the additional trunks on the parent tree are called shoots.
There are other instances involving vines and bushes but since you are making trees, I limited my answer to the main forms of 'multi-trunk' instances of trees.
Hope you found these examples interesting and helpful to your designs. I look forward to viewing your other videos... Which I am off to do right now!
Terrain Tutor drinking game: Yeah = Drink ;)
whatchamacallit is a shot!
I died.
Keeping squirrels off my fruit tree
sir, may you show how to create Christmas trees add flock and both snow? you do a great help friend.
Snowy playlist bud
These tree tutorials are wonderful, but I wonder: Will there be a future tutorial dealing with coniferous trees, on how to sculpt and flock them? While I haven't yet tried to make them (need to master the basics first), they strike me as being rather more... fiddly to make.
Yes, we#re covering armatures, barking, foliage and then we'll look at specific species mate, gotta cover the basics first ;-)
how many wires do you use on a tree it's cold a fork in the tree / great video informative enjoyable as well
Very cool way to wire trees. Yours looks very good. :) But how to make the bark?
is it easy enough to do if the wire was say have the size? just to make the overall size bit smaller?
yep, I use wires down to 0.2mm mate
Nice tree! :)
How would you do an ancient hollowed-out one?
you could always wrap them horizontal on a pencil.. then texture. maybe?
Im doing one now, started out with a piece of PVC pipe, wrapped it in aluminum foil not real tight. Once wrapped starting from the root buttresses...near the ground.. I pinched lines going up the trunk in random patterns. Running the foil up past the pipe you can mold the hollow.
I used collected roots for branches applied with a hot glue gun. You can create more texture for the bark and the roots with the glue gun also. Ta da anchient old live oak
well qwill see more like it ;;;]]
Weight and Stability. If I have a "standard" base of plaster covered polystyrene, how am I going to fix this and keep it stable as I reckon it will weigh about 150gm? Love the videos!
Run a dowel from underneath the trunk and use that as a pin mate. Or run really long fine roots out across the piece and then texture the piece, essentially using roots as roots mate
U are a wiz Mel... 😆
Can you utilize 28 gauge wire with this method, for smaller scale trees ... HO for instance? Thanks!
Sure mate
Thanks for the quick reply, Mel. Just ordered some straight 28-gauge and am anxious to give this method a try!
How to put leaves or flower sir?
what gauge is the best for 28mm war gaming in terms of user friendliness vs thickness required
I use 7 mate
Wow
#beahumane
Great video. Gonna try this on the weekend. Wondering what gauge wire (AWG) you recommend?
0.7mm 20 Gauge?
hi.. what gauge wire stems are you using ?
or can anybody else tell me plz..
8:00 - Boughs and limbs fella :)
Cheers
Fantastic tutorial mate. I now have a kick ass tree and the knowledge to make more. Cheers bud :)
can you make a taller tree video please , around 1 meter, and cover it. so it will look like real tree tq
not my scale mate
Waterfalls! Waterfalls! Waterfalls! Waterfalls! Waterfalls! Lol
How much does that one tree weigh?
couple of grams if that
bout how much dose all that wire cost? would it be cheaper to buy a prefab?
that tree has about 60p worth of wire in it
+TheTerrainTutor that's like $80 here in the states. How many trees are you going to get for 60 pounds?
He means £0.60 = 80c in the US
Kinnamon100
60 pence ... £0.60 GBP, less than a buck mate ;-)
+TheTerrainTutor Oh! Ok. had me freaking out man. sorry.
This was great! But, I can't find the wire rods you used??? Where do you get them??
Google floral stub wire
@@TheTerrainTutor thanks!!
Hobby Lobby had them. Various sizes.
how is the bark tutorial going?
Slowly lol
Video gets kinky @ 13:40 :)
In all seriousness though, great video. I'm definitely going to have to give this method a try
Hope it helps bud
pleez bot atranslet in arabeek in your program
Seems amazing as end result* and easy enough for the worst hobbyist in the whole branch.. 🤔😢
0.6 or 0.8mm is better?
A shop here sells 600 of 0.8mm rods for 6.28$ or 4.85£ and 900 per 0.6m for the same price (thats around 220m i think)
However tommorow im just going to be an idiot.. ie myself and try my own method.
Using 1+mm that cant bend much as base braches and gluing 1mm thin ones to the base with hot glue.
Will hide the base smooth texture by all purpose slow glue with thin ropes and PvA on top with grinded coffee and pellet dust.
Yeah, i have an extremely bad feeling about something going down south with this idea
Where is the beard ?
A man without his beard is like a lion without his mane.
It wasn't gone for long mate
Thy are called boues its the main branch of the tree
Too much work….and too big for N scale, sadly.
You can use a smaller diameter wire for N Scale. I'm working on some right now.
it's lovely ...