Democrats need to drop this topic right away, accept it was self defense and focus on communicating the infrastructure bill. That’s the only way they won’t get absolutely wiped out in the midterms.
They need to address this 3rd wave anti racism crap they’re teaching school kids as well. As a parent I don’t want my kids being taught fictional bullshit like White supremacy.
@@cheesecakeisgross4645 because anti-racism claims that the main factor bolding people down in society is race whereas Marxists know this is wrong and know the main factor is CLASS and that we need to depolarize along race lines and repolarize along class lines
@@cheesecakeisgross4645 Marxism and race marxism are two different things. I am not a socialist but I know plenty of then that hate the woke ideologues. My understanding is that socialist want class unity and intersectionality is driving a wedge between the working class.
He wasn't saying she looked fat, he was saying she looked conservative. That's why Destiny was saying his 'west coast was showing,' because outside of LA, women in their 40s don't sport alternative styles.
He wasn't bodyshaming, he was aesthetic-shaming. If you wanted to diss him back on the same grounds you could say he looks the Quartering's younger brother.
Rittenhouse is a situation that really challenges people's objectivity. As an attorney, I can say there's no jurisdiction I'm aware of where this verdict wouldn't be legally correct, and all my attorney colleagues agree. FTR, we are 'coastal elites' and the majority of us are politically progressive. There are some who think there should be some other crime for him to be charged with, and we can agree that we don't want to incentivize vigilantism, but ultimately you can't just make up laws that don't exist at the time of the alleged offense. If you're progressive & you would've locked up Rittenhouse, it's time to take a breather
Good luck arguing against vigilantism when the only vigilantes were those trying to stop Kyle from handing himself into the police (visible on camera) after the first shooting, not least Gaige who was explicitly told that... The fact that they misheard this as "working for the police" before deciding to attack Kyle makes support for Gaige even more incomprehensible.
I would like to challenge you on this being Vigilantism by saying this: Kyle was not enacting amy version of 'justice' on anyone for arson,violence,etc. He quite literally just had to defend himself. By analyzing what Vigilantism actually is, I'd argue the people trying to stop him from turning himself to the police (by attempting to kill or maim) are a more fitting example.
Rekieta Law was livestreaming the trial with several lawyers watching/commenting on it. There were lawyers there from both sides of he aisle and they were all in agreement that it was clear self defense. Many of them were even saying it should have been a mistrial with prejudice before the verdict.
@@marmite_popsicle 😂😂😂 alright. It can dance, but it’s still cringe and part of my black pilling. However, the media is really what did it for me. They put the cherry on the sundae for me.
@@zarka223 yes. As disgusted as i am about the media coverage, Im also glad that so many people will be redpilled/blackpilled about their habits. A lot of democrats/liberals will think twice about future news coverage. Now we need such a blackpilling on the right and healing can start :P
It was the gaslighting from the establishment media that got me, the Red wave is coming mid terms and I’ll be on the sideline with my middle finger in the air.
Destiny, I'm an independent conservative. You being completely objective and not being ideologically ignorant made me a fan of you. I'm going to start listening to you and be open to what you're saying since you were fair with this whole trial. If there were more people like you on both sides, I think everyone in this country would start listening to each other a lot more.
Hell yeah! Honestly, this is primarily why I like Destiny as well, he has integrity... more so than any other streamer I can think of. You can always expect a good discussion with as little bias as possible. And he's not afraid to admit his fuck ups and grow when he's wrong.
The amount of people from family to strangers that were all misled and brainwashed by the media baffled me. Apparently this dude rittenhouse is a habitual state crosser lol.
I'm convinced left, right, centrist put what ever nonsense label you want on someone, I'm convinced 99% people who talk about politics have completely no idea what there talking about, and this is especially true of "popular" political commentators.
Even worse…. I’m convinced that the majority of people in the US who talk about politics, treat politics like team sports. “Oh, well, I’m Team Blue, so I HAVE to be against Rhittenhouse” … you know, that kinda thing (as pathetic/ridiculous as it is).
It's probably just human nature sadly, I'm not sure there's a lot that can be done about it. This is probably the state of politics for the rest of humanity
The media doesn't help by constantly race baiting. Msnbc for example all weekend ranted on and on about how rittenhouse is a racist white supremacist who got away with murder because of his white privilege and this is just how white conservatives are like. How does this help a divided nation?
I actually have taken this Rittenhouse situation as an opportunity to push back against my own side while reaching across the aisle. Watching Destiny's coverage gave me the tools needed to do so.
I wish more from the right could have taken advantage of the Chauvin trial to reach across the aisle and push back on their loco folks, I guess we are just better in that way 🤷.
Great! Try to introduce them to the facts of the Steele Dossier as well. How Hillary sucked it out of her thumb and how the fbi ran with it and all that. And while at it, check how the Seth Rich murder is connected to the copying of the DNC files and how Wiki Leaks is involved. I gave up on presenting facts to commies. They are like deeply traumatized cult members and couldn’t care less about facts. Especially when they collide with their comfort zone.
This is a word for word rendition of what someone in politics might say. Are you sure you are being honest? Also what compromises, considerations, and/or support will you be providing to the aisle across from you? Hope it wasn't just empty platitudes.
God that exact twitter scenario where somebody makes a big deal out of the crossing of state lines, and then i explain he lived near the border and never crossed with a gun, then they proceed to chide me for missing the point and focusing on something unimportant... YOU'RE THE ONE WHO BROUGHT UP THE CROSSING OF STATE LINES!
@Michael H at the end of the day though nothing else matters besides that video of 3 grown men attacking a teenager. Like ifnthey had videos of Kyle pointing or agitating the crowd it would be a lot different.
@Michael H he had lived there before, his father lived there, he worked there (but moved because his mother moved), also none of that matters because plenty of the rioters didn't live there either including Rosenbaum who was from Waco Texas and was only there because his baby mama lived there (but she had a restraining order) and Rosenbaum couldn't get his bipolar meds due to the riots... So if you're gonna try to pretend not living somewhere 30 mins from your house and showing up to attempt to provide medical service and defend property is a bigger deal than criminals attacking people in the street i think you're the one missing the point, he didn't start it, he tried to run away, but that didn't work unfortunately.
Kyle just said he supports BLM. He then lost almost all of his Groyper fanbase. Good! I stand with both Kyle and black lives. End the drug war and stop corrupt prosecutors ruining the lives of poor black people and almost ruined the life of Kyle.
I’m sorry, you actually believe Kyle supports BLM unironically? When he posed with the Proud Boys, did he “support them” too? Do we trust every random comment or gesture of his as some kind of actual pledge of allegiance?
@@jordanporter9593 I'm sorry, you actually believe Kyle supports proud boys unironically? When he endorsed BLM, did he "support them" too? Do we trust every random comment or gesture of his as some kind of actual pledge of allegiance?
The Rittenhouse saga has been a hell of a finale to the 2021 season. I thought the ending was pretty telegraphed but they still managed to keep things interesting. I think the hate the writers have gotten is a little over the top, with people mad that their pet theories didn't pan out more than anything actually wrong with the show.
Not quite the finale. We have a whole holiday season of people raiding businesses to look forward to. San Francisco is already seeing mass robberies going on.
I always think it's funny how far leftists talk and talk and TALK about how citizens need to gather up to protect their communities, Antifa especially, then when some people decide to protect their community they get super fucking technical about all the little ways he is disqualified from the right to do so
You don't understand! Only revolutionary communists are allowed to defend their communities! If you're not a communist, you're basically a fascist, and therefore have no human rights! (insert tangent about how fascists don't respect the human rights of others, and therefore don't deserve to have their rights respected, etc.)
@@UEGMEAT worked there ? Wait so if someone works at a billionaires house im beverly hills its his community ? Did his father live near the riot area or in the city cery far away you didnt state that
It's so insane to me people care more about being right than anything. Like they really shouldn't be focusing on this case of clear self defense when the Ahmaud Arbery case is happening
White racists are on trial for killing a black man. Doesn’t fit the narrative that white racists get no consequences in this white supremacist country, so no coverage. Arbery is likely to get justice. There was a lot more to construct from Kyle Rittenhouse. All of it being lies. Case in point: Darrell Brooks name and history hardly being mentioned by CNN and MSNBC
@Don Then you haven't been watching him much. He mentions it almost every time someone mentions they think the case involves any black injustice. Just because he hasn't made a titled video about it means nothing. I'm sure he will soon since that case is just now going to trial.
Arbrey was clearly NOT self defense. In order to make a citizen's arrest in that state you must have FIRST HAND knowledge of the crime committed, which they did not, it was second hand info. Also, brandishing the shotgun made it worse and NOT what should've been done. If anything they could've just followed until police arrived.
Gotta love that 3 minutes in some random NOT destiny talking head voice chimes in with some classic American exceptionalism, "America's judicial system is like so much better than britain's". Destiny simply asks him why he says that and the dude fumbles around because he doesn't actually know. He just said some dumb shit for literally no reason. Classic.
@Andre I watched this entire video and he def didn't know what he was trying to say during this video at least. So maybe the full stream has more context if you say so.
It’s such a strange, Twilight-like feeling to know just a year ago I would’ve been right where so many leftists are right now but today I can separate “this *should’ve* happened” versus “this is what actually happened, or can at least be proven without a doubt, and this is what we legally can do”
@Don He just realized it is impossible for true blind loyalty, you can’t hope that people who claim to have the same values as you to actually uphold them like you.
Man I was so voting for Bernie, Biden or whoever… but I was so black pilled all 2020 after having my storefront looted while I was on the other side of the city protesting with BLM that the right to self defense only existed with the big T. And while being looted the only person that helped me clear out my shop from looters was my brother, the crazy drunk neighbor ex gang member and a couple homeless who I had made friends earlier that year that I felt for Kyle and did appreciate how he stepped up for his hometown while it was already burning the prior night. Hell I was further pushed after hearing my own friends “support black businesses” the day after my business was just ransacked.
My sympathy, your story is a modern ironic tragedy with insult added to injury. Surely not unique. It’s sobering to realize most people who claim to agree with you are, at best only interested in dirtying hands to destroy (easy mode) and never build or maintain anything (hard mode). You sound due for a favorable karma jolt, may luck be on your side for the next chapter
@Trade Bum Simmons lol I kinda thought he was being serious… but that neighbor turned out to be a great friend after that event. But he remains the friendliest drunk ex-gang member I never thought I would befriend.
@Trade Bum Simmons I'm pretty sure something exactly like that was said by some of Destiny's opponents in debates. @wuzomed It really does suck that the parasites are trying to coopt the BLM movement and general moderate democrat pushes, and I feel for you. Just keep in mind that the rioters usually hate the democrats even more than they hate the republicans (see: Bernie-Or-Bust movement), and that moderate democrats are a wildly different group of people than radical leftists, and that the latter would roll around laughing if you moved away from the former because of their hateful sabotage.
@Don bro you've been posting on almost every comment down here lol. I hope when you grow older you have more meaningful things in your life, and learn to stop treating politics as your own version of your favorite basketball team.
Hey Destiny, I disagree with your opinion on a few things but I cant stop watching you dunk on people I disagree with more. Thanks for the content and the memes.
Yeah someone in chat brought that up and destiny realized it was real, it was a really short moment tho so if u had this on in the background you’d easily miss it
as a non american, this whole rittenhouse debacle is kinda disappointing. i was expecting this to turn into a open carry debate, that'd at least be interesting. this whole "is he a white supremacist or not" thing goes nowhere.
Yea... you gotta understand that our entire political system has essentially been taken over by corrupt grifters, on both sides, so you can see why they'd lie about the kid and turn everything into a race issue.
NOT QUITE. It was self-defence on the ground. From above, in context, it is still a race issue. The people that died were BLM Supporters. Rittenhouse was wanna be Proud Boy. Just like how it was the issue of BLACK PEOPLE that led to the Civil War, it was the issue of BLACK PEOPLE that led to bloodshed in the streets in recent times. And in Charlottesville. Until the issue of BLACK PEOPLE and police brutality is resolved, only then will the nation heal. Otherwise, BLMers, both white and black and whoever else, will continue to march. Let come what may, but justice will be served, and as a Leftist, I have confidence that the courts will continue to rule in favor of the Left, just like in Derek Chauvin's trial, and hopefully in Ahmaud Arbery's trial.
@@Molecular-Brainwaves-Translate totally agree, but that's what i mean. these are complex issues, rittenhouse is neither good or bad, he just is. i think that systemic racism is an issue in the us, and everywhere honestly. BUT there's always gonna be counter protests, and it's probably gonna escalate and get violent at least sometimes. would this have happened if there was more gun control in the states? that is my point, i live in the third world for example. i've seen some very violent riots, but never some dude just showing up with an assault rifle, not even cops. imo that's cuz of strict gun control here, if you see someone w an assault rifle it's probably ilegal.
@@enzito_sdf6978 And there are ways to manage guns. I prefer the Massachusetts model of gun control. But those are wise words indeed regarding the Rittenhouse issue. To try and moralize it is not necessary. Good or bad, justice was served, and we should focus on the broader issues once more. Wishing peace to the families and loved ones of course. I feel we can do the fallen justice by resolving the issues that indirectly led to their demise.
@enzito_sdf dude your about 2 years behind the times, before covid yeah we woukd have heard nothing but talk of automatic semi-auto assault AR-15s on the news for months... but now 2 years into the pandemic... 1 white 17yr old who shoots 3 white middle aged men chasing him is obviously a demonstration of white supremacy ideology in action...
IDK what the judges do in the US but in the UK the judges are neutral, they decide if evidence is admissible and basically control when the defence and prosecution do stuff. They also act as a legal explainer to the jury, so they can understand what the law is. Then at the end they give a summary. Then they decide on a sentence. AFAIK this is the exact same as the US system.
"The UK legal system is worse than ours, I don't know how or why but trust me on this one"... The US legal system is built in the foundations of the British legal system.
You know what else is funny to think about, the hypocrisy of some these people. A lot of people use Kyle's "I wish I had my AK" comment from facebook as a nail in the coffin, but then I see twitter post about how they wish to harm Kyle and much worse, and those post get 10k likes lol.
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor yeah this straight up just isn't true. Only in specific cases does the defence need to prove their innocence, such as carrying a weapon in public (which is a crime). They'd need to provide evidence that they had a good legal reason to have the weapon on their person. This would literally be the case in the US too.
After watching the trial, I'm surprised there is so much disagreement on the outcome. I'm glad he was found not guilty, but it's sad that he won't be able to live a normal life for a long time. Even the defense attorney's family is getting death threats, so I can't imagine what Kyle and his family will have to go through.
Im glad that atleast he wont be able to live a normal life again, and that He possibly has to live with trauma. Its the least kinda punishment that he deserves.
@@xxgmehhhejkdkkjjfctsxxsjjj5194 "Its the least kinda punishment that he deserves" For self defense, that ended up with a pedo killed? I understand that its all sports to you, but dont you think you should let adults run the show?
@@xxgmehhhejkdkkjjfctsxxsjjj5194 Remind me again why he deserves punishment? From all the evidence that was presented, this was a clear cut case of self defense. Do you mean he should be punished for being there in the first place? If so, do all of the protestors that were there at night deserve the same kind of punishment? The kid has PTSD, he mentioned it during the trial and it's evident by his reactions to him recalling the events on stand. But what has be done specifically to "deserve" death threats and not being able to live a normal life?
@@BobertRads I dont think he deserves death threats, and I also dont think the actions against him are justified, but nonetheless deserved. You Destinytards think you can judge a person only based on the isolated event but I take into consideration that he was looking for something like that to happen. He went there with an AR-15 because he wanted to defend stores from protesters/rioters like its some walking dead shit. AND YEAH for that he deserves to be attacked, mocked, hated, seen as a killer. The same way I think a nazi deserves to be punched in the face, without actually supporting punching nazis in the face.
The issue isn't really these loner schizoid people, I have friends in real life who are objectively believe that Rittenhouse is some crazed gun man or some paragon of American values who aren't terminally online weirdos. I think it has more to do with current voices in the political areana. I do live in Cali though so take that as you will.
People just read the headlines about stuff and that’s it. Tho idk who is worse people just believing what news stations or influencers tell them without any research themselves or those news and influencers not doing their job at providing the truth be it because of negligence or malice.
@@arturzinurov4781 I think the saddest part is would consider myself left/right moderate depending on the issue but a lot of my friends are hard sold lefty ideals. I've been referred to my them as alt right for saying various moderate takes such as Rittenhouse probably isn't guilty. Really heart breaking tbh
@Ollie Mungus idk dude, cant really argue anyone had a right be there bc no really did after shit went down. I dont think he should have had the rifle or been there but state by-laws are a bitch and a half. Honestly though, not the kids fault a lot of this happened. Don’t have all the detail, likely never will but from what was shown and what I’ve seen the kid was pretty obviously assaulted.
@Ollie Mungus He was in the streets providing aid for riots, thats why he had a medic bag on him. The gun was there for his safety, and although he arguable shouldn't have had it there is no proof he did anything to provoke people with it until he was in danger. Also this is a blatantly not true, several people testified in the trial that Kyle road to Kenosha with his 2 friends where the gun was being kept. I suggest you watch the actual trial before you make anymore statements.
@Ollie Mungus SOY, CONSPIRACY, SOY. Like common man did you actually pay attention to any of this or not? It doesn't matter if he had the gun or not it was legal for him to have and carry it. That's just the law. Was it the smart thing to do, nope definitely not, I would have just let the city burn and stayed home. However, unless you can point out a case where he shot someone for no reason then you just alleging conspiracy so good luck with that...
lol what are these arguments from the lawyer? "Why is UK system bad/worse than ours?" "Well uhhh, I don't know shit about it but it seems like it is not like our system and I prefer ours so it is shit." Bro what are these non arguments.
"UK system" doesn't even exist, Scots law and English law are completely different in so many regards. Saying UK system of law is nearly as bad as saying Western system of law
@@yoshen433 yes and also there is a difference between eu-continental law and anglo-saxon law . People like to compare law from EU countryes with american law , which is very hard to do because america uses precedent
@@Fabio-Galante if I am remembering correctly, the only thing in common was that US used English common law initially, but obviously common law will vary the longer it remains separate
@@edcaous no his chat is definitely where the most stupid is concentrated. Given destiny's history, him calling Crowder Ultra Cringe is the definition of irony.
It's the really weird celebration. If crowder just said what he said and then moved on it would have been fine. It's the crowd of people dressing up and partying. Super fucking weird lol.
@@william4996 It's not weird if you watch more than one episode of Louder with Crowder. The only reason you'd say it's "super weird" is if you haven't even watched the intro to that show. During a Christmas special, Crowder waterboarded himself to prove that it wasn't torture. This is a normal thing for Crowder. And also it's very SNL/Late Night show flavored... it seems like normal late night gimmicks to me. Also, Destiny said it was cringe in order to appear neutral. Crowder could've done something super normal and Destiny would have still said "ultra cringe" in order build up his "I'M NEUTRAL GUYS BELIEVE ME" reputation. Don't pretend that isn't the reason he said "ultra cringe." It 100 percent is.
Honestly….he has the opposite of body dysmorphia. He honestly believes himself a Chris Hemsworth type. Lol. I think he’s got a head like a half sucked mango pip. He really loves himself deeply. 😂
2:33 The system he's describing is the French Inquisitorial judicial system, not British. Britain and the other commonwealth countries have an adversarial system similar to the U.S.
Much respect, Destiny. I'm a right winger that has become a big fan of yours recently for your honesty and willingness to call out bullshit on both sides.
Yeah don’t expect this right leaning side of Destiny to last. Destiny is a left leaning (towards the middle though). I have a feeling if you actually watched his takes you wouldn’t like him.
The judge does take an active role in the UK for trials like this. It’s a Common Law system and adversarial like in the US. That guy who thinks otherwise is talking out of his arse.
@@KabukiJava They were radlibs in the first place, their ideology is inundated with idpol that is entirely posed against their economic beliefs. The cognitive dissonance has just become too loud to ignore at this point though, so they are freaking out.
This poor old man in Oregon where I live shot and killed one of 2 armed home intruders running up his stairs and they tried prosecuting him for murder 1 saying because the intruder wasn’t pointing the handgun at him therefore it wasn’t self defense. He got off but it was still ridiculous.
Something else has to happen? If the police enforced the law at protests, they would not become riots. It is that simple. Mayors and Governors who restrict the police from doing their jobs AND have their prosecutors decline to charge IS the problem. They want the riots, it is politically advantageous to have their citizens blame racism, etc., than have to explain why 60 years of policy has failed.
Seder exposed himself as actually clueless, Crowder was over the top cringe, Hassan was Hassan, and Vaush was one of idiots crying about rittenhouse from the start, Destiny was consistent and correct.
The crowder thing isn’t cringy. It’s a gag that they are purposely went super right leaning for laughs. No different then their other skits they go ridiculously far to the left and right for comedic value. Sometimes it’s funny sometimes it flops but it’s comedic in purpose.
You've gotta be kidding me. Plenty of conservatives also had no fucking idea what happened that night. They didn't ALL support Kyle because it was legitimately self defense. It turned out that way but you're fucking delusional if you think the reason conservatives ended up at the right opinion is because of some kind of calm, cool and collected non-biased analysis Don't kid yourself, most of them were yelling "self defense!!" for the exact same reason most lefties were yelling "white supremacist nazi!" That's what they were told.
Well, can you name a conservative commentator on CZcams or in the MSM who was on his side but was ignorant of yhe facts of the case, the way so many leftist commentators were? Prove your claim
We live in an epidemic of people fumbling into being correct all the time. Most people think they've got one talking point that justifies any position they've got, and even if that point is wrong they'll act like they knew what they're talking about. Most conservatives have just as brain dead a take on this case as the leftists, and almost all of it boils down to his "right" to bring the gun to the protest and has nothing to do with actual self defense.
This case is the perfect test to see who's opinions are worth entertaining. If they ever say "crossed state lines", or "killed 3 black men" you know they don't know anything.
The logical process for most people about this goes like this: ME LEFT WING, LEFT WING THINK RITTENHOUSE BAD, ME THINK RITTENHOUSE BAD, or, ME RIGHT WING, RIGHT WING THINK RITTENHOUSE GOOD, ME THINK RITTENHOUSE GOOD. Copy paste that into any other issue too lol
After working for Democrats for 10 years, I became “black pilled” for the last 12 years or so. Not necessarily on the US “system” in its entirety, but on our society and the interplay between our society, media, politics and our system. Like I don’t think there is a need to wholly revamp the constitution or anything. I think the basics of our system are fine. But there’s a lot that’s wrong. And I don’t believe the “entire system is systemically raclst”. But this has been going on for quite a while. And more so since 2015/2016. I mean, look at the degeneration of the “Russiagate” narrative, not that I’m a Trump supporter, but I am a supporter of reality, even if a crappy person like Trump is involved. And now, we see slowly, after Biden wins, a lot of “correction” has come. “Correction” that half the people who need to, will never see. And we can see how disingenuous and manipulative our political and media system are. Yes. They don’t understand the concept of a “theoretical lens”, which is what things like CRT or Post Modernism really are. I mean, in terms of CRT, Crenshaw literally argues it’s a “theoretical lens” that they WANT to turn into a practical “movement”, which they’ve surely succeeded in doing.
As cringy as the Crowder reaction was, there was cause to celebrate the verdict. The Rittenhouse trial served as a watershed moment for the 2nd amendment, self-defense, and our right to stand up against terrorists destroying our communities.
The way I see it is that when government/police is unable/unwilling to deal with a problem (riot in this case), community will self-regulate. Civilians on seeing injustice and nothing being done about it will take the matter into their hands, it's just how it is and how it always was. As European I am firmly anti-gun but given the circumstances I am happy Kyle had one, he would be badly injured or dead otherwise. I blame the government for their lack of appropriate response, but most of all I blame the criminals that were destroying the city.
A lot of people seem to not know it but Peterson is kind of hated by the alt-right because of things like that. While he isn't all pro-social justice his beliefs do not work well with alt-right radicalization like we're told.
It's horrible that you're allowed to cross state borders in the USA. Not crossing any borders is the most important thing. Rosenbaum heroically defended the border against the illegal immigrant Kyle.
I do really appreciate all of the help and debates and looking into the case. Really is eye opening seeing just how much misinformation there is out there
@@Yuh_mama Its everything surrounding the case. Like the stuff surrounding Jacob Blake. If all you hear is that Kyle Rittenhouse is bad, then that influences your opinion until you look into it.
@@snoopsauce6294 there's no such thing as unbiased news. Just have to watch the trial and videos yourself to get a more clear view of things. It's really amazing to see how easily people are nearly programmed to think a certain way about incidents.
@Don career criminals resisting arrest after sexually assaulting a woman and attempting to flee with children and then grabbing a weapon while resisting is bad. Rioters attacking a fleeing kid is bad. Fixed it for you :)
@Don With children in the car while he’s trying to escape and reaching for a weapon? Yes. A 17 yr old with a rifle doesn’t warrant someone to attack you.
It's actually very weird that they admit they didn't watch it and had opinions on it. Including vaush. It wouldnt surprise me if some of them are lying
@@joea867 Fair enough, but I don't see what they have to gain from coming across as an imbecile it can't be bothered to look up the details on the very thing that they're commenting on. 🤦🏻♂️ But you absolutely could be right, idk maybe they believe all publicity is good publicity.
@@joea867 Someone who's afraid of saying something controversial but they give opinions on issues they know none of the details of? I thought these people were the "Trust the science" people, well then again 🤔 their lack of personal discernment could be a sign that it is the "trust the science" people. 🤦🏻♂️
@@LovingPrinceTamayuki people who blindly push "trust the science" are probably untrustworthy. Science isn't about trust. The main problem is that the people questioning the science are often not educated enough to make valid criticisms.
Voluntarily manslaughter is deliberately meaning to harm, but not to kill. Involuntary means you did something that could cause harm but you didn't mean harm and they ended up dead anyways.
@9:16 Exactly, what you are describing here is ideological possession. The reason this happens is because when we out grew myths and gods as our sacred value, it left a vacuum. Now that vacuum is filled and our identity becomes consumed by our ideology, or these tools you are pointing at. When people allow their identity to be consumed by any of these things, they then begin to feel like they are being attacked when these tools are attacked. A good example supporting this is how the god of the gaps argument has taken a new form in the racism of the gaps arguments that we are now seeing. People need to remember that they are not these tools and that they are just there to help us understand the world. We shouldn't be emotionally attached to any of these tools or we can never develop them because to develop them you have to attack, poke holes and challenge them. And if someone's identity is infused with the tool they will not let that developmental process continue.
short barreled rifles are not uzis and stuff, theyre rifles with barrels shorter than 16 inches, wether or not your rifle identifies as a pistol or rifle depends on the mood the ATF is in at the time.
I'm sure he will hate the conservative smugness too, but is at least able to acknowledge that's the reason he's pissed. Being aware of those emotions and accepting them is much better than suppressing them.
People who believe Rittenhouse should sit for murder are cringe af. People who act like he is a hero are equally cringe. That incident was stupid, sad and the thing we could all learn from that is that you don't riot and charge guys with assault rifles and also that it's probably not a good idea to open carry assault rifles at protests. Mich less for kids. End of story.
8:16 i'm atheist. but that's a description way way down my list of self identity, and i have to keep saying this to other atheists, i'm nothing to do with them. i don't want to be part of a gang, even one i agree with. and this is why politics is screwed up, you vote in someone who DOESN'T want the job, but will be good at it, and the government works WITH THE OPPOSITION to make sure everyone is represented, yes the elected party gets first dibs on policy, but goc is supposed to represent everyone, these days it's "i'm president and fk you lot cos you're losers" - not the best way to run any country, including my own. but subscribing to groups, basically gang mentality is the half way mark to civil war. my lot (isn't more intelligent / more empathetic / more socailly aware) my lot is gonna duff your lot up.
Well, that’s something else. Normally i can agree with most of the analysis of a commie, but i resent their conclusions. However, in your case, i share your conclusion while thinking nothing of how you got there. Amazing. Anyway, After a lifetime of contact with ET’s i lost all interest in spirituality and just want to be left alone and forget about all their lies, deceit, threats and other crap they pulled on me. And i couldn’t care less about other people’s opinion on those matters anymore.
Atheism isn't an ideological group though, not like a political party or established religion. There are no central tenants, common beliefs or ideals shared. There are right wing atheists, left wing atheists, chinese authoritarian atheists, nihilistic apolitical atheists. Only thing that's really universal with atheists is a LACK of beliefs rather than the presence of them.
The jury instruction was HAD the jury found self defense on the highest count, then he was not guilty ON ALL counts. Sam has no idea what he's talking about.
It would've been more appropriate had the case been whether or not he killed anyone, but in the exact context it reeks of, "congrats on killing and shooting people without consequences! Yay America!". Just poor taste even if it is performative.
@@note4note804 he killed his attackers...Difficult to empathize, considering the caliber of people they were. But poor kyle has PTSD now sure. But cant you celebrate his well earned freedom?
@@EsotericOccultist hahaha. The funny thing is I’m not a part of the leftist cult. I consider myself to be right leaning (especially fiscally) but I am always open to hearing different ideas. For that reason, I like to watch Destiny because he’s actually one of the few reasonable voices on the left
Crowder is such a clown. No better than the BreadTubers who paint everyone who disagrees with them as Crowder. But then Crowder plays the part without a hint of irony.
The best explanation for the “lens perspective” is that it’s like looking at a white door with colored glasses on. You’re gonna see that color, but that doesn’t change the fact that the door is still white.
30:00 Lesser Included Offenses The prosecution attempted to throw the kitchen sink in this regard after both sides rested. The judge granted some, but not others. The standard was that the state had to argue a legitimate reason why the jury might acquit on the greater charge, but would still be able to convict on the lesser. In some cases their arguments didn't make the most sense, such as trying to include Unintentional Homicide under Intentional Homicide, since the defense hasn't argued that Rittenhouse's actions were not intentional
The judge granted them all, BUT, while he was reading them out loud, he realised that self defence trumped them all and let it go to the jury anyway. I'm still convinced that he was going to (rightfully) overturn a guilty verdict if it came in. Everything he said to the prosecution indicated that he would let all their BS through, but there would be consequences. The prosecution were happy to let him so they could tell the media the judge was at fault, which thankfully the jury settled anyway.
A lot of English speaking countries have a common law (precedent-based) legal system with an adversarial system, where the judge is more of a moderator between the prosecutor and defense. A lot of non-English speaking countries have a civil law (code-based) legal system with an inquisitorial system (where the judge investigates facts of the case and questions witnesses).
god the seder thing is worst of all imo. saying they should've gone for manslaughter, as if the concept of self defense is different based on the degree of murder the defendant is charged w/. just straight up saying you didn't watch, don't know anything about it, and then spouting off uninformed opinions.
That’s definitively false, though. There is no difference between convicting him of these two crimes in this case. Either he acted in self defense, or he didn’t, period
I think Sam Seder is just as bad as other partisan hacks. Manslaughter makes no sense in the situation when people are claiming its 1st or 2nd degree. And when it’s not unreasonable self defense. Sam just attempts to appear “reasonable” when he knows he’s got an uphill battle. He is less stupid than disingenuous. Personally, I’m not fond of the terms “reasonable” and “unreasonable” as it’s applied to law, in a post modern environment which wholly confuses reality. Hassan just might actually be delusional. I can’t respect most words out of his mouth. And yes, you can protect property in many states. The way I look at it, ideally, or what it should be, threat to person, livelihood or necessary domain and property. That which is not easily or equally replaced. So like if someone was stealing your puppy, you can get another dog, but it won’t be that particular dog, that is irreplaceable. Or if you lose your house, which you can’t just replace necessarily. Or something that would destroy your livelihood, which can be argued would destroy your actual life, like a small, mostly uninsured business.
Destiny returns in 4 days. Pakman debate video coming soon... promise.
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Wtf is wrong with Destiny’s editor. He posts content as if he’s getting paid to do it.
Better debate about why this case is so big and nobody talks about Epstein's wife's process
the fact that they call you ar right winger now Destiny ar just more proof they have gone full Teletubbie
4 days is so close but so far
Thanks August
Democrats need to drop this topic right away, accept it was self defense and focus on communicating the infrastructure bill. That’s the only way they won’t get absolutely wiped out in the midterms.
They need to address this 3rd wave anti racism crap they’re teaching school kids as well. As a parent I don’t want my kids being taught fictional bullshit like White supremacy.
@@bradtaylor77 why would Marxists fight against Marxist indoctrination? Serious question.
@@cheesecakeisgross4645 because anti-racism claims that the main factor bolding people down in society is race whereas Marxists know this is wrong and know the main factor is CLASS and that we need to depolarize along race lines and repolarize along class lines
We need to quit the racism bullshite. Anti-white racism is still racism.
@@cheesecakeisgross4645 Marxism and race marxism are two different things. I am not a socialist but I know plenty of then that hate the woke ideologues. My understanding is that socialist want class unity and intersectionality is driving a wedge between the working class.
Vaush says "woman who looks like this" while he is literally the picture definition of a sack of potatoes wrapped in fur
Thought these guys were all about getting rid of bodyshaming. Oh wait, not applicable to your opponents.
And whats up with Vaushs stupid haircut haha i guess he wont go down to a number 1 comb on the sides in fear of being so close to being a skinhead
He wasn't saying she looked fat, he was saying she looked conservative. That's why Destiny was saying his 'west coast was showing,' because outside of LA, women in their 40s don't sport alternative styles.
He wasn't bodyshaming, he was aesthetic-shaming. If you wanted to diss him back on the same grounds you could say he looks the Quartering's younger brother.
Not that I hate Vaush or anything but he should be able to take what he dishes out
Rittenhouse is a situation that really challenges people's objectivity. As an attorney, I can say there's no jurisdiction I'm aware of where this verdict wouldn't be legally correct, and all my attorney colleagues agree. FTR, we are 'coastal elites' and the majority of us are politically progressive. There are some who think there should be some other crime for him to be charged with, and we can agree that we don't want to incentivize vigilantism, but ultimately you can't just make up laws that don't exist at the time of the alleged offense. If you're progressive & you would've locked up Rittenhouse, it's time to take a breather
Good luck arguing against vigilantism when the only vigilantes were those trying to stop Kyle from handing himself into the police (visible on camera) after the first shooting, not least Gaige who was explicitly told that...
The fact that they misheard this as "working for the police" before deciding to attack Kyle makes support for Gaige even more incomprehensible.
Did he have a license to open carry an assault weapon down the street during curfew...
I would like to challenge you on this being Vigilantism by saying this:
Kyle was not enacting amy version of 'justice' on anyone for arson,violence,etc. He quite literally just had to defend himself.
By analyzing what Vigilantism actually is, I'd argue the people trying to stop him from turning himself to the police (by attempting to kill or maim) are a more fitting example.
@@davidwilliams6966 how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man…
Rekieta Law was livestreaming the trial with several lawyers watching/commenting on it. There were lawyers there from both sides of he aisle and they were all in agreement that it was clear self defense. Many of them were even saying it should have been a mistrial with prejudice before the verdict.
This trial black pilled me. Not the trial itself, but how our society reacted to it
@@EsotericOccultist fair enough, but I also saw dancing statue of liberties in Crowder’s basement as well. 😂
@@zarka223 well crowder is a cringy idiot, but in this case completely right. Let that statue of liberty dance baby :D
@@marmite_popsicle 😂😂😂 alright. It can dance, but it’s still cringe and part of my black pilling. However, the media is really what did it for me. They put the cherry on the sundae for me.
@@zarka223 yes. As disgusted as i am about the media coverage, Im also glad that so many people will be redpilled/blackpilled about their habits.
A lot of democrats/liberals will think twice about future news coverage. Now we need such a blackpilling on the right and healing can start :P
It was the gaslighting from the establishment media that got me, the Red wave is coming mid terms and I’ll be on the sideline with my middle finger in the air.
Destiny, I'm an independent conservative. You being completely objective and not being ideologically ignorant made me a fan of you. I'm going to start listening to you and be open to what you're saying since you were fair with this whole trial. If there were more people like you on both sides, I think everyone in this country would start listening to each other a lot more.
Yeah, but did you know Destiny is a woman’s name?
Do luuhhhhh love black people?
Watch some of his conservative debates from a year or two ago, super entertaining
@@pargonyan amazinnnnn'!!!!!
Hell yeah! Honestly, this is primarily why I like Destiny as well, he has integrity... more so than any other streamer I can think of.
You can always expect a good discussion with as little bias as possible. And he's not afraid to admit his fuck ups and grow when he's wrong.
come to the left. we have cookies
The amount of people from family to strangers that were all misled and brainwashed by the media baffled me. Apparently this dude rittenhouse is a habitual state crosser lol.
He's crooosinnnng
I wonder what they think of major league baseball players, those monsters cross state lines about 40 times a year.
He is a recreative state crosser.
@@andriesquast2028 state crossing hobbyist
@@markzuckergecko621 they dont cross state lines to sh t people
I'm convinced left, right, centrist put what ever nonsense label you want on someone, I'm convinced 99% people who talk about politics have completely no idea what there talking about, and this is especially true of "popular" political commentators.
Even worse…. I’m convinced that the majority of people in the US who talk about politics, treat politics like team sports. “Oh, well, I’m Team Blue, so I HAVE to be against Rhittenhouse” … you know, that kinda thing (as pathetic/ridiculous as it is).
It's probably just human nature sadly, I'm not sure there's a lot that can be done about it. This is probably the state of politics for the rest of humanity
The media doesn't help by constantly race baiting. Msnbc for example all weekend ranted on and on about how rittenhouse is a racist white supremacist who got away with murder because of his white privilege and this is just how white conservatives are like. How does this help a divided nation?
dude they have a platform to run. You think they have time to fact check their reporting? bitch please
True
Watching the trial by itself and then watching MSNBC's reaction to the verdict should convince anybody how awful MSM entertainment "news" is.
@Don Yeah, MSNBC and Fox News are basically identical products with different brands slapped on the front.
Lots of people have seen how MSM lied about the case. My question is how many are going to ask "what else have they lied about?"
Destiny, throughout this whole Rittenhouse trial you been by far the most objective voice. I thank you for that.
Not remotely
@@mariomario1462 SOY
Eric why not just watch the trial? Thats the most objective voice there was on this.
@@onedaynoreason2572 that's an arbiter not a voice
@@mariomario1462 Any particular reason you think that?
I actually have taken this Rittenhouse situation as an opportunity to push back against my own side while reaching across the aisle. Watching Destiny's coverage gave me the tools needed to do so.
Honestly I was believing the left was just full to the brim with ideological monsters but it's great that we can reach over to one another sometime.
I wish more from the right could have taken advantage of the Chauvin trial to reach across the aisle and push back on their loco folks, I guess we are just better in that way 🤷.
Great!
Try to introduce them to the facts of the Steele Dossier as well.
How Hillary sucked it out of her thumb and how the fbi ran with it and all that.
And while at it, check how the Seth Rich murder is connected to the copying of the DNC files and how Wiki Leaks is involved.
I gave up on presenting facts to commies. They are like deeply traumatized cult members and couldn’t care less about facts. Especially when they collide with their comfort zone.
@@cruzvandewark We did.
This is a word for word rendition of what someone in politics might say. Are you sure you are being honest? Also what compromises, considerations, and/or support will you be providing to the aisle across from you? Hope it wasn't just empty platitudes.
God that exact twitter scenario where somebody makes a big deal out of the crossing of state lines, and then i explain he lived near the border and never crossed with a gun, then they proceed to chide me for missing the point and focusing on something unimportant... YOU'RE THE ONE WHO BROUGHT UP THE CROSSING OF STATE LINES!
its important until the point doesnt work in their favor lul
@Michael H at the end of the day though nothing else matters besides that video of 3 grown men attacking a teenager. Like ifnthey had videos of Kyle pointing or agitating the crowd it would be a lot different.
@Michael H he had lived there before, his father lived there, he worked there (but moved because his mother moved), also none of that matters because plenty of the rioters didn't live there either including Rosenbaum who was from Waco Texas and was only there because his baby mama lived there (but she had a restraining order) and Rosenbaum couldn't get his bipolar meds due to the riots... So if you're gonna try to pretend not living somewhere 30 mins from your house and showing up to attempt to provide medical service and defend property is a bigger deal than criminals attacking people in the street i think you're the one missing the point, he didn't start it, he tried to run away, but that didn't work unfortunately.
@Michael H Unironically and genuinely, take time off from this subject.
@Michael H is being a vigilante bad? Good news for you then: rittenhouse also shot two vigilantes that night.
Kyle just said he supports BLM. He then lost almost all of his Groyper fanbase. Good! I stand with both Kyle and black lives. End the drug war and stop corrupt prosecutors ruining the lives of poor black people and almost ruined the life of Kyle.
Kyle always had Conservative support. Not alt-right support.
Richard Spencer hates Kyle.
I’m sorry, you actually believe Kyle supports BLM unironically? When he posed with the Proud Boys, did he “support them” too? Do we trust every random comment or gesture of his as some kind of actual pledge of allegiance?
@@jordanporter9593 proud boys is ethnically diverse. Even their leader is black/cuban. And they have lgbt members. They hate antifa though.
@@jordanporter9593 I'm sorry, you actually believe Kyle supports proud boys unironically? When he endorsed BLM, did he "support them" too? Do we trust every random comment or gesture of his as some kind of actual pledge of allegiance?
@@whasian1487 the Cuban leader was an FBI plant. Lol. Also the rest of Proud Boys literally formed a White Knights crusaders chapter to vote him out.
The Rittenhouse saga has been a hell of a finale to the 2021 season. I thought the ending was pretty telegraphed but they still managed to keep things interesting. I think the hate the writers have gotten is a little over the top, with people mad that their pet theories didn't pan out more than anything actually wrong with the show.
Most fun take so far.
Not quite the finale. We have a whole holiday season of people raiding businesses to look forward to. San Francisco is already seeing mass robberies going on.
@@whasian1487 Its almost like Rittenhouse was the final arc, but they gotta throw in a few episodes of filler to stretch out the season.
for a group wanting to abolish borders these people are concerned about crossing state lines. Madness i tell you.
Which makes no sense as there is not many laws about it.
Fleeing for your life from a drug cartel vs intentionally looking for trouble without any wherewithal
@@davidwilliams6966 cope
@@davidwilliams6966
Trouble found him since he has many ties there.
@@davidwilliams6966 you didn't watch the trial
"I dont know anything about the british legal system but it's dumb" Extremely intelligent yank has spoken 🤪
Mad bonger detected
LEFTY!
There is NO "British Legal System". Scotland, for one, has an entirely separate legal system to England and Wales, even with different verdicts...
MAD bonger with a small donger
"Oi bruv you've gone and made a right rotten joke, off to jail with you now!"
I always think it's funny how far leftists talk and talk and TALK about how citizens need to gather up to protect their communities, Antifa especially, then when some people decide to protect their community they get super fucking technical about all the little ways he is disqualified from the right to do so
You don't understand! Only revolutionary communists are allowed to defend their communities! If you're not a communist, you're basically a fascist, and therefore have no human rights!
(insert tangent about how fascists don't respect the human rights of others, and therefore don't deserve to have their rights respected, etc.)
Its not his community big difference
@@oliviastratton2169 so you would protect the rights of hitler as he was getting his country under his control based purely on principle
@@acdesegurgels8663 it is his community. He worked there, his dad lived there. There's no difference.
@@UEGMEAT worked there ? Wait so if someone works at a billionaires house im beverly hills its his community ? Did his father live near the riot area or in the city cery far away you didnt state that
It's so insane to me people care more about being right than anything. Like they really shouldn't be focusing on this case of clear self defense when the Ahmaud Arbery case is happening
White racists are on trial for killing a black man. Doesn’t fit the narrative that white racists get no consequences in this white supremacist country, so no coverage. Arbery is likely to get justice. There was a lot more to construct from Kyle Rittenhouse. All of it being lies.
Case in point: Darrell Brooks name and history hardly being mentioned by CNN and MSNBC
@Don He brings it up all of the time in his debate videos. It's how I found out about it lol
@Don Then you haven't been watching him much. He mentions it almost every time someone mentions they think the case involves any black injustice. Just because he hasn't made a titled video about it means nothing. I'm sure he will soon since that case is just now going to trial.
Exactly
Arbrey was clearly NOT self defense. In order to make a citizen's arrest in that state you must have FIRST HAND knowledge of the crime committed, which they did not, it was second hand info. Also, brandishing the shotgun made it worse and NOT what should've been done. If anything they could've just followed until police arrived.
I'm from Kenosha, it's a poor place, then it burned. People were sick of it.
Gotta love that 3 minutes in some random NOT destiny talking head voice chimes in with some classic American exceptionalism, "America's judicial system is like so much better than britain's". Destiny simply asks him why he says that and the dude fumbles around because he doesn't actually know. He just said some dumb shit for literally no reason. Classic.
@Andre I watched this entire video and he def didn't know what he was trying to say during this video at least. So maybe the full stream has more context if you say so.
@Andre based on how he was going absolutely no where and seemed confused I doubt it.
I literally quit my job because my boss called me a racist for saying Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self defense. God he was dumb lol
It’s such a strange, Twilight-like feeling to know just a year ago I would’ve been right where so many leftists are right now but today I can separate “this *should’ve* happened” versus “this is what actually happened, or can at least be proven without a doubt, and this is what we legally can do”
Welcome back to reality. It's what i like to call being woke woke.
@Don That’s literally not what he said tho
@Don He just realized it is impossible for true blind loyalty, you can’t hope that people who claim to have the same values as you to actually uphold them like you.
Do you mean Twilight Zone?
Man I was so voting for Bernie, Biden or whoever… but I was so black pilled all 2020 after having my storefront looted while I was on the other side of the city protesting with BLM that the right to self defense only existed with the big T. And while being looted the only person that helped me clear out my shop from looters was my brother, the crazy drunk neighbor ex gang member and a couple homeless who I had made friends earlier that year that I felt for Kyle and did appreciate how he stepped up for his hometown while it was already burning the prior night. Hell I was further pushed after hearing my own friends “support black businesses” the day after my business was just ransacked.
My sympathy, your story is a modern ironic tragedy with insult added to injury. Surely not unique. It’s sobering to realize most people who claim to agree with you are, at best only interested in dirtying hands to destroy (easy mode) and never build or maintain anything (hard mode).
You sound due for a favorable karma jolt, may luck be on your side for the next chapter
@Trade Bum Simmons lol I kinda thought he was being serious… but that neighbor turned out to be a great friend after that event. But he remains the friendliest drunk ex-gang member I never thought I would befriend.
@Trade Bum Simmons I'm pretty sure something exactly like that was said by some of Destiny's opponents in debates.
@wuzomed It really does suck that the parasites are trying to coopt the BLM movement and general moderate democrat pushes, and I feel for you. Just keep in mind that the rioters usually hate the democrats even more than they hate the republicans (see: Bernie-Or-Bust movement), and that moderate democrats are a wildly different group of people than radical leftists, and that the latter would roll around laughing if you moved away from the former because of their hateful sabotage.
@Don bro you've been posting on almost every comment down here lol. I hope when you grow older you have more meaningful things in your life, and learn to stop treating politics as your own version of your favorite basketball team.
@Don you reek of simpleton conspiracy theorist mindset. And this is as far as i engage with your kind.
Hey Destiny, I disagree with your opinion on a few things but I cant stop watching you dunk on people I disagree with more. Thanks for the content and the memes.
I do local discussion and debate irl, how can I call in somewhere and talk?
@@xaby996 Discord dude. Or Twitch.
@@XTRakki ok thank you
@@xaby996 his email
@@saidbristina6196 okay thank you
The independent article about rittenhouse shooting 3 black men was legit. You could still find the text if you googled it after they changed it.
Yeah someone in chat brought that up and destiny realized it was real, it was a really short moment tho so if u had this on in the background you’d easily miss it
@@Marqrk typed the comment when he questioned it and proceeded to see the same proof i saw earlier lol
as a non american, this whole rittenhouse debacle is kinda disappointing. i was expecting this to turn into a open carry debate, that'd at least be interesting. this whole "is he a white supremacist or not" thing goes nowhere.
Yea... you gotta understand that our entire political system has essentially been taken over by corrupt grifters, on both sides, so you can see why they'd lie about the kid and turn everything into a race issue.
NOT QUITE. It was self-defence on the ground. From above, in context, it is still a race issue.
The people that died were BLM Supporters. Rittenhouse was wanna be Proud Boy.
Just like how it was the issue of BLACK PEOPLE that led to the Civil War, it was the issue of BLACK PEOPLE that led to bloodshed in the streets in recent times. And in Charlottesville.
Until the issue of BLACK PEOPLE and police brutality is resolved, only then will the nation heal. Otherwise, BLMers, both white and black and whoever else, will continue to march. Let come what may, but justice will be served, and as a Leftist, I have confidence that the courts will continue to rule in favor of the Left, just like in Derek Chauvin's trial, and hopefully in Ahmaud Arbery's trial.
@@Molecular-Brainwaves-Translate totally agree, but that's what i mean. these are complex issues, rittenhouse is neither good or bad, he just is. i think that systemic racism is an issue in the us, and everywhere honestly. BUT there's always gonna be counter protests, and it's probably gonna escalate and get violent at least sometimes. would this have happened if there was more gun control in the states? that is my point, i live in the third world for example. i've seen some very violent riots, but never some dude just showing up with an assault rifle, not even cops. imo that's cuz of strict gun control here, if you see someone w an assault rifle it's probably ilegal.
@@enzito_sdf6978 And there are ways to manage guns. I prefer the Massachusetts model of gun control. But those are wise words indeed regarding the Rittenhouse issue. To try and moralize it is not necessary. Good or bad, justice was served, and we should focus on the broader issues once more. Wishing peace to the families and loved ones of course. I feel we can do the fallen justice by resolving the issues that indirectly led to their demise.
@enzito_sdf dude your about 2 years behind the times, before covid yeah we woukd have heard nothing but talk of automatic semi-auto assault AR-15s on the news for months... but now 2 years into the pandemic... 1 white 17yr old who shoots 3 white middle aged men chasing him is obviously a demonstration of white supremacy ideology in action...
IDK what the judges do in the US but in the UK the judges are neutral, they decide if evidence is admissible and basically control when the defence and prosecution do stuff. They also act as a legal explainer to the jury, so they can understand what the law is. Then at the end they give a summary. Then they decide on a sentence. AFAIK this is the exact same as the US system.
He said it was dumb then couldn't explain why. Little like Sam Seder
Yep, the same way as it is here
The American legal system is based off of our legal system in Britain. Their amendments are similar to the Magna Carta, our common laws.
"The UK legal system is worse than ours, I don't know how or why but trust me on this one"...
The US legal system is built in the foundations of the British legal system.
since when do you go to jail for speaking in the USA?
@@apuapustaja1958 That's a difference in law not legal system.
@@apuapustaja1958 doughnut lol. 😂
It's worse. We don't even get to watch our trials, unless you turn up to the court house.
You know what else is funny to think about, the hypocrisy of some these people. A lot of people use Kyle's "I wish I had my AK" comment from facebook as a nail in the coffin, but then I see twitter post about how they wish to harm Kyle and much worse, and those post get 10k likes lol.
>hates the British legal system
>gives no actual reason
>"haha look how mad the britbongers are"
amazing input thank you
Well maybe you shouldn’t be so mad
It's simple Bongers are presumed guilty until proven innocent
Free People are presumed innocent until proven guilty
Your legal system is objectively fucked
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor yeah this straight up just isn't true. Only in specific cases does the defence need to prove their innocence, such as carrying a weapon in public (which is a crime). They'd need to provide evidence that they had a good legal reason to have the weapon on their person. This would literally be the case in the US too.
I am surprised the government didnt lock you up for calling a horse gay
After watching the trial, I'm surprised there is so much disagreement on the outcome. I'm glad he was found not guilty, but it's sad that he won't be able to live a normal life for a long time. Even the defense attorney's family is getting death threats, so I can't imagine what Kyle and his family will have to go through.
its because they WANT to disagree, they WANT there to be conflict over this, they WANT the riots and mayhem.
Im glad that atleast he wont be able to live a normal life again, and that He possibly has to live with trauma. Its the least kinda punishment that he deserves.
@@xxgmehhhejkdkkjjfctsxxsjjj5194 "Its the least kinda punishment that he deserves" For self defense, that ended up with a pedo killed? I understand that its all sports to you, but dont you think you should let adults run the show?
@@xxgmehhhejkdkkjjfctsxxsjjj5194 Remind me again why he deserves punishment? From all the evidence that was presented, this was a clear cut case of self defense. Do you mean he should be punished for being there in the first place? If so, do all of the protestors that were there at night deserve the same kind of punishment?
The kid has PTSD, he mentioned it during the trial and it's evident by his reactions to him recalling the events on stand. But what has be done specifically to "deserve" death threats and not being able to live a normal life?
@@BobertRads I dont think he deserves death threats, and I also dont think the actions against him are justified, but nonetheless deserved. You Destinytards think you can judge a person only based on the isolated event but I take into consideration that he was looking for something like that to happen. He went there with an AR-15 because he wanted to defend stores from protesters/rioters like its some walking dead shit. AND YEAH for that he deserves to be attacked, mocked, hated, seen as a killer.
The same way I think a nazi deserves to be punched in the face, without actually supporting punching nazis in the face.
The issue isn't really these loner schizoid people, I have friends in real life who are objectively believe that Rittenhouse is some crazed gun man or some paragon of American values who aren't terminally online weirdos. I think it has more to do with current voices in the political areana. I do live in Cali though so take that as you will.
People just read the headlines about stuff and that’s it. Tho idk who is worse people just believing what news stations or influencers tell them without any research themselves or those news and influencers not doing their job at providing the truth be it because of negligence or malice.
@@arturzinurov4781 I think the saddest part is would consider myself left/right moderate depending on the issue but a lot of my friends are hard sold lefty ideals. I've been referred to my them as alt right for saying various moderate takes such as Rittenhouse probably isn't guilty. Really heart breaking tbh
@Ollie Mungus idk dude, cant really argue anyone had a right be there bc no really did after shit went down. I dont think he should have had the rifle or been there but state by-laws are a bitch and a half. Honestly though, not the kids fault a lot of this happened. Don’t have all the detail, likely never will but from what was shown and what I’ve seen the kid was pretty obviously assaulted.
@Ollie Mungus He was in the streets providing aid for riots, thats why he had a medic bag on him. The gun was there for his safety, and although he arguable shouldn't have had it there is no proof he did anything to provoke people with it until he was in danger. Also this is a blatantly not true, several people testified in the trial that Kyle road to Kenosha with his 2 friends where the gun was being kept. I suggest you watch the actual trial before you make anymore statements.
@Ollie Mungus SOY, CONSPIRACY, SOY. Like common man did you actually pay attention to any of this or not? It doesn't matter if he had the gun or not it was legal for him to have and carry it. That's just the law. Was it the smart thing to do, nope definitely not, I would have just let the city burn and stayed home. However, unless you can point out a case where he shot someone for no reason then you just alleging conspiracy so good luck with that...
I find it very hard not to cheer along with crowder after the epic levels of gaslighting that happened for the last year
lol what are these arguments from the lawyer? "Why is UK system bad/worse than ours?" "Well uhhh, I don't know shit about it but it seems like it is not like our system and I prefer ours so it is shit." Bro what are these non arguments.
"How do you determine what is a reasonable belief in self defense?"
"You look at it objectively, there you go."
omfg what even is this lawyer
Cut them some slack, these internet lawyers have never had a meaningful discussion in their lives.
"UK system" doesn't even exist, Scots law and English law are completely different in so many regards. Saying UK system of law is nearly as bad as saying Western system of law
@@yoshen433 yes and also there is a difference between eu-continental law and anglo-saxon law . People like to compare law from EU countryes with american law , which is very hard to do because america uses precedent
@@Fabio-Galante if I am remembering correctly, the only thing in common was that US used English common law initially, but obviously common law will vary the longer it remains separate
It's crazy how much heat Destiny is getting for literally using common sense and caring about the facts.
Its sad that people care more about twisting facts to fit their own narrative than objectivity. This court case was a perfect example
I'm still just floored that even after the trial and all the evidence produced that people are still lying about it.
Ur statement is full of holes.
@@Khro
Nope. It's a complete thought.
Who is lying about it? And not all of the evidence was produced in court
@@o.3313
Make a chart of all the media outlets and throw a dart.
Totally bad faith even asking that question.
@@seriouslyshortofnormal925 good vague answer lmfao.
No, the community was *terrorized.* Say it as it is. The rioters did over have of kenosha's budget in damages. That's a proper use of the term lol.
Crowder: literally says everything Destiny has been saying and then celebrates.
Destiny: ultra cringe.
It was probably the celebration/dance thing.
Though that reaction confused me as well. His chat had the same reaction though, so maybe I'm just dumb.
@@edcaous no his chat is definitely where the most stupid is concentrated. Given destiny's history, him calling Crowder Ultra Cringe is the definition of irony.
It's the really weird celebration. If crowder just said what he said and then moved on it would have been fine. It's the crowd of people dressing up and partying. Super fucking weird lol.
@@william4996 It's not weird if you watch more than one episode of Louder with Crowder. The only reason you'd say it's "super weird" is if you haven't even watched the intro to that show. During a Christmas special, Crowder waterboarded himself to prove that it wasn't torture. This is a normal thing for Crowder. And also it's very SNL/Late Night show flavored... it seems like normal late night gimmicks to me. Also, Destiny said it was cringe in order to appear neutral. Crowder could've done something super normal and Destiny would have still said "ultra cringe" in order build up his "I'M NEUTRAL GUYS BELIEVE ME" reputation. Don't pretend that isn't the reason he said "ultra cringe." It 100 percent is.
@@benjaminwoodham6682 It's still a weird celebration lol. Nothing you said changes that?
vaush really commenting on others appearances? really? theres a saying about fragile domiciles and rocks or something
Honestly….he has the opposite of body dysmorphia. He honestly believes himself a Chris Hemsworth type. Lol. I think he’s got a head like a half sucked mango pip. He really loves himself deeply. 😂
2:33 The system he's describing is the French Inquisitorial judicial system, not British. Britain and the other commonwealth countries have an adversarial system similar to the U.S.
Much respect, Destiny. I'm a right winger that has become a big fan of yours recently for your honesty and willingness to call out bullshit on both sides.
Radical centrist strikes again.
Yeah don’t expect this right leaning side of Destiny to last. Destiny is a left leaning (towards the middle though). I have a feeling if you actually watched his takes you wouldn’t like him.
@@flemaster12 or maybe they’ll realize that some ideas that have been packaged dishonestly to them from the right are actually reasonable
@@broobit7540 It's possible
@@broobit7540 Destiny used to be a massive right winger, he then actually started looking into politics and has been solidly on the left since
The judge does take an active role in the UK for trials like this. It’s a Common Law system and adversarial like in the US. That guy who thinks otherwise is talking out of his arse.
Jeeeesus Christ I understand why even Hasans fans are worried about him now
I watch most of the breadtubers and yeah the money and Twitter is starting to really give a lot of them brain rot
@@KabukiJava They were radlibs in the first place, their ideology is inundated with idpol that is entirely posed against their economic beliefs. The cognitive dissonance has just become too loud to ignore at this point though, so they are freaking out.
@@keemstarkreamstar7069 what has English become
@@fatnose0 Run NOW!
@@fatnose0 I mean I only used two terms here that are out of the ordinary, though.
This poor old man in Oregon where I live shot and killed one of 2 armed home intruders running up his stairs and they tried prosecuting him for murder 1 saying because the intruder wasn’t pointing the handgun at him therefore it wasn’t self defense. He got off but it was still ridiculous.
Something else has to happen? If the police enforced the law at protests, they would not become riots. It is that simple. Mayors and Governors who restrict the police from doing their jobs AND have their prosecutors decline to charge IS the problem. They want the riots, it is politically advantageous to have their citizens blame racism, etc., than have to explain why 60 years of policy has failed.
"If you use just one tool long enough you become a tool." - Destiny, 2021
I'm disappointed that there was no Destiny reaction to Majority Report people saying: "John Wilkes Booth was the first Kyle Rittenhouse."
Seder exposed himself as actually clueless, Crowder was over the top cringe, Hassan was Hassan, and Vaush was one of idiots crying about rittenhouse from the start, Destiny was consistent and correct.
The crowder thing isn’t cringy. It’s a gag that they are purposely went super right leaning for laughs. No different then their other skits they go ridiculously far to the left and right for comedic value. Sometimes it’s funny sometimes it flops but it’s comedic in purpose.
im not from the US and honestly, this is just team deathmatch from my prespective.
as oil runs out, and winter is coming to texas, the circle closes in, and the center is far from the usa.
It's amazing that he crossed state lines with a firearm when the firearm was in Kenosha. I agree Sam that is amazing, it never happened!
@Ollie Mungus they attacked him. That's why it matters
No no Kyle has an AR 15 that morphs out of his arm
“So many conservatives lucked into getting this right” actually they just watched the videos.
You've gotta be kidding me. Plenty of conservatives also had no fucking idea what happened that night. They didn't ALL support Kyle because it was legitimately self defense. It turned out that way but you're fucking delusional if you think the reason conservatives ended up at the right opinion is because of some kind of calm, cool and collected non-biased analysis
Don't kid yourself, most of them were yelling "self defense!!" for the exact same reason most lefties were yelling "white supremacist nazi!"
That's what they were told.
@@MrRazmut
Nah a lot of them watched the video, leftists didn't bother and just listened to the news.
Well, can you name a conservative commentator on CZcams or in the MSM who was on his side but was ignorant of yhe facts of the case, the way so many leftist commentators were? Prove your claim
@@MrRazmut calm down. Don't call people fucking delusional just because they're right
We live in an epidemic of people fumbling into being correct all the time. Most people think they've got one talking point that justifies any position they've got, and even if that point is wrong they'll act like they knew what they're talking about.
Most conservatives have just as brain dead a take on this case as the leftists, and almost all of it boils down to his "right" to bring the gun to the protest and has nothing to do with actual self defense.
I'm from the UK and I did jury service 2 years ago and it played out exactly the same as it does in the US.
Nuh uh! ... US judges don't wear powdered wigs.... anymore.
This case is the perfect test to see who's opinions are worth entertaining. If they ever say "crossed state lines", or "killed 3 black men" you know they don't know anything.
Killed 3 black men is false, crossed state lines with a weapon false, crossed state lines true but not relevant to the self defense case
“Oh my god he is dead” -Vaush ok that was pretty fucking funny ngl
Like him or hate him, he's pretty funny
@@emperortgp2424 ok am I not getting it?
Is this irony? Thats was pretty unfunny. But maybe I just dislike him.
@@emperortgp2424 wasn't funny to me. AND i still dislike him.
Made me laugh, Vaush can be alright, he shouldn't come to the internet tomorrow
The logical process for most people about this goes like this: ME LEFT WING, LEFT WING THINK RITTENHOUSE BAD, ME THINK RITTENHOUSE BAD, or, ME RIGHT WING, RIGHT WING THINK RITTENHOUSE GOOD, ME THINK RITTENHOUSE GOOD. Copy paste that into any other issue too lol
After working for Democrats for 10 years, I became “black pilled” for the last 12 years or so. Not necessarily on the US “system” in its entirety, but on our society and the interplay between our society, media, politics and our system. Like I don’t think there is a need to wholly revamp the constitution or anything. I think the basics of our system are fine. But there’s a lot that’s wrong. And I don’t believe the “entire system is systemically raclst”. But this has been going on for quite a while. And more so since 2015/2016. I mean, look at the degeneration of the “Russiagate” narrative, not that I’m a Trump supporter, but I am a supporter of reality, even if a crappy person like Trump is involved. And now, we see slowly, after Biden wins, a lot of “correction” has come. “Correction” that half the people who need to, will never see. And we can see how disingenuous and manipulative our political and media system are.
Yes. They don’t understand the concept of a “theoretical lens”, which is what things like CRT or Post Modernism really are. I mean, in terms of CRT, Crenshaw literally argues it’s a “theoretical lens” that they WANT to turn into a practical “movement”, which they’ve surely succeeded in doing.
As cringy as the Crowder reaction was, there was cause to celebrate the verdict. The Rittenhouse trial served as a watershed moment for the 2nd amendment, self-defense, and our right to stand up against terrorists destroying our communities.
The way I see it is that when government/police is unable/unwilling to deal with a problem (riot in this case), community will self-regulate. Civilians on seeing injustice and nothing being done about it will take the matter into their hands, it's just how it is and how it always was.
As European I am firmly anti-gun but given the circumstances I am happy Kyle had one, he would be badly injured or dead otherwise. I blame the government for their lack of appropriate response, but most of all I blame the criminals that were destroying the city.
10:02-10:13 This is exactly what Jordan Peterson warned about years ago, he called it “Ideological possession”.
A lot of people seem to not know it but Peterson is kind of hated by the alt-right because of things like that. While he isn't all pro-social justice his beliefs do not work well with alt-right radicalization like we're told.
nobody uses ok as a white supreme symbol... like ive never seen this anywhere ever in my entire life and ive lived all accross the country....
The left and the right are insane on this. Im glad Destiny has proven that a more centrist view is based by comparison
Now imagine he shot someone who was black and tell me that the justice system is unbiased.
the british system is crap cos i don't know how it works. great start mate.
It's horrible that you're allowed to cross state borders in the USA. Not crossing any borders is the most important thing.
Rosenbaum heroically defended the border against the illegal immigrant Kyle.
I do really appreciate all of the help and debates and looking into the case. Really is eye opening seeing just how much misinformation there is out there
You needed Destiny to tell you this case was self defense???
@@Yuh_mama Its everything surrounding the case. Like the stuff surrounding Jacob Blake. If all you hear is that Kyle Rittenhouse is bad, then that influences your opinion until you look into it.
@@snoopsauce6294 there's no such thing as unbiased news. Just have to watch the trial and videos yourself to get a more clear view of things. It's really amazing to see how easily people are nearly programmed to think a certain way about incidents.
@Don career criminals resisting arrest after sexually assaulting a woman and attempting to flee with children and then grabbing a weapon while resisting is bad.
Rioters attacking a fleeing kid is bad. Fixed it for you :)
@Don With children in the car while he’s trying to escape and reaching for a weapon? Yes.
A 17 yr old with a rifle doesn’t warrant someone to attack you.
The Kyle Rittenhouse argument is an argument between people who know the facts and people who don’t that’s it
Destiny "the thing that bothers me about these lefty arguments" me- "is that none of them watched the trial! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️"
It's actually very weird that they admit they didn't watch it and had opinions on it. Including vaush.
It wouldnt surprise me if some of them are lying
@@joea867 Fair enough, but I don't see what they have to gain from coming across as an imbecile it can't be bothered to look up the details on the very thing that they're commenting on. 🤦🏻♂️ But you absolutely could be right, idk maybe they believe all publicity is good publicity.
@@LovingPrinceTamayuki I think they are afraid of either going back on previous positions or of saying something so controversial to their side
@@joea867 Someone who's afraid of saying something controversial but they give opinions on issues they know none of the details of? I thought these people were the "Trust the science" people, well then again 🤔 their lack of personal discernment could be a sign that it is the "trust the science" people. 🤦🏻♂️
@@LovingPrinceTamayuki people who blindly push "trust the science" are probably untrustworthy. Science isn't about trust.
The main problem is that the people questioning the science are often not educated enough to make valid criticisms.
Voluntarily manslaughter is deliberately meaning to harm, but not to kill. Involuntary means you did something that could cause harm but you didn't mean harm and they ended up dead anyways.
@9:16 Exactly, what you are describing here is ideological possession. The reason this happens is because when we out grew myths and gods as our sacred value, it left a vacuum. Now that vacuum is filled and our identity becomes consumed by our ideology, or these tools you are pointing at. When people allow their identity to be consumed by any of these things, they then begin to feel like they are being attacked when these tools are attacked.
A good example supporting this is how the god of the gaps argument has taken a new form in the racism of the gaps arguments that we are now seeing.
People need to remember that they are not these tools and that they are just there to help us understand the world. We shouldn't be emotionally attached to any of these tools or we can never develop them because to develop them you have to attack, poke holes and challenge them. And if someone's identity is infused with the tool they will not let that developmental process continue.
Says "hold on 1 sec"
*literally reappears 1 sec later*
nice edit there :D
The channel is really popping off
Don't worry there will surely soon be a month of only league to balance things out
@@onlyeveryone2253 please god no
The League month is already here btw and from what I seen, this times it's not only month.
short barreled rifles are not uzis and stuff, theyre rifles with barrels shorter than 16 inches, wether or not your rifle identifies as a pistol or rifle depends on the mood the ATF is in at the time.
Anyone else feel Vaush meant “I” everytime he said “you”
I'm sure he will hate the conservative smugness too, but is at least able to acknowledge that's the reason he's pissed. Being aware of those emotions and accepting them is much better than suppressing them.
The same people who don't believe in borders between nations want to lynch him over driving from one state to another, about 10 miles away
2:52 - "I dont know that much about it" yeah we can tell from your inane rambling.
People who believe Rittenhouse should sit for murder are cringe af.
People who act like he is a hero are equally cringe.
That incident was stupid, sad and the thing we could all learn from that is that you don't riot and charge guys with assault rifles and also that it's probably not a good idea to open carry assault rifles at protests.
Mich less for kids. End of story.
I think wanting Rittenhouse locked in a prison is not as equally cringe as calling him a hero lol
@@ergoth154 both are cringe af but yes I'd agree people who think he's a hero are even more cringe to me.
@@magicmerls291 what a dumb take
34:21 Good to see Hasan taking the Rittenhouse verdict well
$50 million in propert damage but Destiny doesn't want to call it terrorizing.
Crowders reaction was hilarious. You might not like them but they put a lot of work into that show.
Right lol I like destiny but sitting in front of a computer half-playing games/ half-debating weird commies all day is equally cringe 😂
Honestly cars in Wisconsin are far more deadly.
8:16 i'm atheist. but that's a description way way down my list of self identity, and i have to keep saying this to other atheists, i'm nothing to do with them. i don't want to be part of a gang, even one i agree with. and this is why politics is screwed up, you vote in someone who DOESN'T want the job, but will be good at it, and the government works WITH THE OPPOSITION to make sure everyone is represented, yes the elected party gets first dibs on policy, but goc is supposed to represent everyone, these days it's "i'm president and fk you lot cos you're losers" - not the best way to run any country, including my own. but subscribing to groups, basically gang mentality is the half way mark to civil war. my lot (isn't more intelligent / more empathetic / more socailly aware) my lot is gonna duff your lot up.
Ok boomer, what you doin here
Well, that’s something else.
Normally i can agree with most of the analysis of a commie, but i resent their conclusions.
However, in your case, i share your conclusion while thinking nothing of how you got there.
Amazing.
Anyway,
After a lifetime of contact with ET’s i lost all interest in spirituality and just want to be left alone and forget about all their lies, deceit, threats and other crap they pulled on me.
And i couldn’t care less about other people’s opinion on those matters anymore.
Atheism isn't an ideological group though, not like a political party or established religion. There are no central tenants, common beliefs or ideals shared. There are right wing atheists, left wing atheists, chinese authoritarian atheists, nihilistic apolitical atheists. Only thing that's really universal with atheists is a LACK of beliefs rather than the presence of them.
The jury instruction was HAD the jury found self defense on the highest count, then he was not guilty ON ALL counts. Sam has no idea what he's talking about.
@destiny I think you’re a good dude. You get flustered quickly, but you’re good faith, and you seem to be a good person. Just wanted to say that.
Destiny's take on information flow is the most simply accurate way of explaining it
To be fair, I think Crowder’s bit was more performance art and intended to be over the top/tongue in cheek
Still was hard to watch
It would've been more appropriate had the case been whether or not he killed anyone, but in the exact context it reeks of, "congrats on killing and shooting people without consequences! Yay America!". Just poor taste even if it is performative.
@@note4note804 he killed his attackers...Difficult to empathize, considering the caliber of people they were.
But poor kyle has PTSD now sure. But cant you celebrate his well earned freedom?
@@EsotericOccultist hahaha. The funny thing is I’m not a part of the leftist cult. I consider myself to be right leaning (especially fiscally) but I am always open to hearing different ideas. For that reason, I like to watch Destiny because he’s actually one of the few reasonable voices on the left
Crowder is such a clown. No better than the BreadTubers who paint everyone who disagrees with them as Crowder. But then Crowder plays the part without a hint of irony.
Indeed.
Kyle is an American hero.
Those white guys got their black cards before they died
When Destiny gets to drawing, it's like seeing a Bob Ross painting 😁👌🎨🖌️
The best explanation for the “lens perspective” is that it’s like looking at a white door with colored glasses on. You’re gonna see that color, but that doesn’t change the fact that the door is still white.
30:00 Lesser Included Offenses
The prosecution attempted to throw the kitchen sink in this regard after both sides rested. The judge granted some, but not others. The standard was that the state had to argue a legitimate reason why the jury might acquit on the greater charge, but would still be able to convict on the lesser. In some cases their arguments didn't make the most sense, such as trying to include Unintentional Homicide under Intentional Homicide, since the defense hasn't argued that Rittenhouse's actions were not intentional
The judge granted them all, BUT, while he was reading them out loud, he realised that self defence trumped them all and let it go to the jury anyway.
I'm still convinced that he was going to (rightfully) overturn a guilty verdict if it came in. Everything he said to the prosecution indicated that he would let all their BS through, but there would be consequences. The prosecution were happy to let him so they could tell the media the judge was at fault, which thankfully the jury settled anyway.
A lot of English speaking countries have a common law (precedent-based) legal system with an adversarial system, where the judge is more of a moderator between the prosecutor and defense. A lot of non-English speaking countries have a civil law (code-based) legal system with an inquisitorial system (where the judge investigates facts of the case and questions witnesses).
Men like destiny are in "short" supply amongst online leftists.
Crowders engagement says it all. lol
god the seder thing is worst of all imo. saying they should've gone for manslaughter, as if the concept of self defense is different based on the degree of murder the defendant is charged w/.
just straight up saying you didn't watch, don't know anything about it, and then spouting off uninformed opinions.
Could agree More! You're right it's really more of a reckless endangerment thing
That’s definitively false, though. There is no difference between convicting him of these two crimes in this case. Either he acted in self defense, or he didn’t, period
Dude. Lol. Nevermind.
I think Sam Seder is just as bad as other partisan hacks. Manslaughter makes no sense in the situation when people are claiming its 1st or 2nd degree. And when it’s not unreasonable self defense. Sam just attempts to appear “reasonable” when he knows he’s got an uphill battle. He is less stupid than disingenuous. Personally, I’m not fond of the terms “reasonable” and “unreasonable” as it’s applied to law, in a post modern environment which wholly confuses reality.
Hassan just might actually be delusional. I can’t respect most words out of his mouth.
And yes, you can protect property in many states. The way I look at it, ideally, or what it should be, threat to person, livelihood or necessary domain and property. That which is not easily or equally replaced. So like if someone was stealing your puppy, you can get another dog, but it won’t be that particular dog, that is irreplaceable. Or if you lose your house, which you can’t just replace necessarily. Or something that would destroy your livelihood, which can be argued would destroy your actual life, like a small, mostly uninsured business.
I’m right wing and I agree Steven Crowder is pretty cringe.
Why were there so many super opinionated people on this topic if they knew literally zero about what happened?
Really basic and uninformed takes on UK political and judiciary systems are kinda cringe, no USA ignorance cringe in comments plz