Gladiator - The four virtues according to Marcus Aurelius
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Director : Ridley Scott
Stars : Russell Crowe, Joaquin Phoenix, Connie Nielsen, Oliver Reed, Richard Harris.
You wrote to me once, listing the four chief virtues: Wisdom, justice, fortitude and temperance. As I read the list, I knew I had none of them. But I have other virtues, father. Ambition. That can be a virtue when it drives us to excel. Resourcefulness, courage, perhaps not on the battlefield, but... there are many forms of courage. Devotion, to my family and to you. But none of my virtues were on your list. Even then it was as if you didn't want me for your son...
...What is it in me that you hate so much ?
"Your faults as a son, it's my failure as a father..." think of that every time you hear parents saying they can't understand why their kids act the way they do.
+Wil “shooter” Babilon My very thoughts sir
+Fido “Rasputin” Starman It is kind of tear inducing. He doesn't hate his son, he hates himself for what he made his son turn into.
It makes me wonder if one could have been a good father while being an Emperor of the largest army and empire in history.
You could be whatever you want. It just depends on your priorities. If your family is not the most important thing then...
Such a simple line but is so relatable for all ages, it is not the child that fails, both of you failed.
Joaquin Phoenix acting in Gladiator was amazing. To play such emotionally damage character is very difficult to do. Richard Harris played very good as Caesar and Commodious father.
Joaquin phenoix
Cear julia
I actually thought Phoenix stole the show. He was friggin' awesome. Took sneaky spinelessness in a villain to another level.
@@richardpalmer8478 and yet he seemed vulnerable at times. Joaquin is an extraordinary actor. One of the best ever.
I wish he got Oscar for that role. He was robbed. The way he played was a big part of this movie success. He was such a villain, scary, intimidating. And you could feel that vulnerability, the craziness, he was sociopath, you could feel it. Amazing acting.
This acting is pure genius.
"Your faults as a son, is my failure as a father" always hit hard for me. Even after Commudus lists off his own virtues, trying to prove himself, his father doesn't accept. Marcus doesn't even notice that Commodus is begging for acceptance. He just goes straight to pointing out his failure.
True …. He should have just grabbed him and said I love you
Commodus would have probably done what he did no matter what Marcus said or did - and no matter how perfect a father he was prior to this. Commodus wanted power, and he was ruthless about it. When Commodus heard that he wouldn't be Emperor, he immediately crossed the Rubicon and declared war, and his goal was to capture the crown. Mistake of Marcus was to not have higher security parameters. Marcus should have taken precautions to secure safe transfer of power to Maximus.
Ambition, resourcefulness…….just another way of saying “Im a greedy power obsessed weasel”
Apparently after filming this scene, Joaquin Phoenix fainted because he got into character so much. Deserved an Oscar for this scene alone!
I don't think he deserved it. Sorry that's just my opinion.
lel
If he deserved it, he would have got it.
@@waynedonoghue4071 not how Hollywood works sometimes. Anyway he got it finally for Joker. Well-deserved.
@@waynedonoghue4071 LOL. Tell that to Dicaprio.
Richard Harris - Without a doubt one of my favourite British actors of all time, and still very sadly missed.
Irish not British.
let's not beat about the bush
He did. i am keen on Michael Gambon too, he is a good actor...
But there is something about Harris' voice. it calming... and sits perfectly in to a childs movie.
Which i think is why he made a good Marcus in this.... a soft spoken gentle old man who realized he shed blood for nothing.
I think as evil, manipulative, confused and angry as he was, what he says to father I believe to be genuine
Joaquin Phoenix was awesome bringing this emotionally damaged character to life on the screen.
Mine stems from my mother.
His father hated him because he was different. If something is socially appropriate, then it's allowed.
When your boss tells you, that the other guy gets promoted.
doy...
This movie definitely put Joaquin Phoenix on the map. He's such a great actor.
Joaquin Phoenix is the best living actor today IMO. He puts so much emotion into every performance. This scene is even more impressive when you realize that, not only was it his breakout performance, it was also one of his earliest adult performances.
hope your happy to know he'll be playing the joker (judging by your profile pick)
Yes,this and Quills, also in 2000.
Phenomenal acting here. One of my favourite movies ever.
"Your faults as a son is my failure as a father."
I used to think that but as I grew older I realized that some people are just rotten in their core and there's nothing anybody could've done to change that despite their best efforts.
I think so too. Commodus was also mentally ill and unstable which his father knew would make him an unfit ruler who would run Rome to the ground.
Marcus Aurelius, for all the wisdom he had, simply couldn't see the truth when it came to his son and made the ultimate mistake of letting his guard down when he was most vulnerable.
I guess there's a lesson to be learned from this scene, for every person: there are times to let your guard down and there are times not to.
If the Caesar listened to Commodus' words carefully, he should've taken note of his chief virtues - his own words should've been enough of a warning.
Maybe Marcus didn't think his son was capable of killing him.
Everyone is capable of killing... all it takes is the right motive.
I agree 100%
"How did he die?"
"He was hugged to death..."
Richard Harris was so good in this movie. This was an actor with astounding talent coming towards the end of a very long life in which he had clearly honed his considerable craft to a degree most actors will never have a chance to reach.
But Joaquin Pheonix was even better.
Almost every performance in this film was fantastic, some were inspired, but he stood head and shoulders above everyone.
He wasn’t better than Harris
Two actors in a scene
There’s no better or worse performance
Such a powerful scene!
Tell me about it. I broke into a sweat just by looking at this scene again after 18 years...
The guy who should have won the Oscar!
This is the Oscar decision that annoys me the most to the present day. Nothing against Del Toro's performance in Traffic, but Joaquin Phoenix's tour de force in this movie is leagues better and one of the most memorable villain performances ever.
David Bielsa Del Toro's performance in Traffic was alright but Joaquin's performance in Gladiator was absolutely brilliant
@@FreedomofSpeech865 yeah I know. Del Toro would have won for me in many other years. But know one was competing with Joaquin that year for me.
JF was simply sensational in Gladiator - his part was the most organic, natural, believable, relatable acting/ delivery of all in the whole movie.
How do you do it that the most viscious villain touches your heart and soul in every scene he gets?
Mastership, true mastership on JF´s part.
Completely agree! He is my favourite character in this movie due to Joaquin's acting.
It’s JP dude not JF. What the fuck?
"My decision disappointing you?" of course not, I thought I was going to be master of the world but now I know I'm not...No biggie.
Seething rage and a mental breakdown was more Commodus speed.
Among the greatest 3:40 of acting in film history. Credit to the two men in that scene and their mastery of the craft.
The writing and acting of Commodus really nail just how close (intermeshed?) seething rage and profound sadness are I mean the emotional overlap is crazy.
I can relate to what he said
I would butcher the whole world if you only loved me.
You honestly can't help but feel sorry for Comedus in this scene. But as the film goes on, you then can't help but hate him more & more
This scene hurts so much. True art. Sends shivers down my spine
Joaquin was amazing in this film. This scene is crazy. The dialogue and acting is incredible
He's such a great actor
How can it be possible to play a character you both sympathise with and hate with every fibres of your soul?
Joaquin Phoenix is a damn good actor.
He is such a great actor and plays the damaged/twisted role extremely well. He is going to be an awesome joker
I think of this scene A LOT.
Possibly one of the best and most memorable bits of cinema from recent times.
"I would butcher the whole world, if you would only love me!"
The best soundtrack in the whole movie. Adore it!
“My faults as a son is your failure as a father” so using this against my dad
I'm guessing you're black
@@blademaster9297 Probably not. Almost 70" of blacks are born to unmarried parents.
What a scene.! What an acting from still young JP. I felt like in theatre. This is one of the most unforgettable movie scenes ever. Amazing acting. He was robbed not winning Oscar.
This was the scene and the movie where I realized Joaquin was going to be a legend. I still get tears in my eyes at this part. His pain is so real.
The moment Marcus said the word 'Maximus" he was fucked. (Btw Marcus listed fourteen virtues not four.)
i think Commodus knew he was going to say Maximus before he even askled whom was to replace him.
He really sealed the deal by saying "your faults as a son is my failure as a father." No son wants to hear that.
I disagree, he's just saying that you fucked up because I didn't do a good job. It's a good apology
Not really, he's basically confirming what Commodus suspects in that his father views him as a fuck up. Imagine being the son of the emperor with all this expectation from yourself and those around you only to have to hear that. That was like the nail in the coffin for both of them.
Even before Marcus says this.... Commodus said he would honour his father with games worthy of his majesty.
He was going to have thousands of people killed to honour his father who would have wanted the exact opposite.
…. as I read the list I knew I had none of them. Powerful
And so was the end of the last great stoic philosopher!!
My father abandoned me so...
Everytime I watch the movie this scene hit me hard in my heart...
I can identify with you.
This is one of the best scenes in cinema, ever.
I dare anyone to come up with a better scene in Cinema history. We can definitely talk about it
The first 4 to 5 minutes of Bram Stoker's Dracula or the.last 5 minutes of Brams Stoker's Dracula or the scene in Django Unchained when DiCaprio rubs his blood on Kerry Washington's face.
@@nathansiegel6799 yeah that’s good ! I’m just saying Joaquin in this scene just captures every aspect of that situation it’s like I knew that this is exactly the way I would feel if I were in his shoes with my father
my brother from a driffent father walk away when he saw this scene . i heard him crying , he told me that his dad while living with him never spoke to him, because my brother wasn't a planned pregnancy.
Larammie Rosado , wow
Man that’s fucked up...
What is it in me you hate so much?The phrase that prooved by words his mental and psycological ilness despite his way of speak and move in the whole movie in general.
I remember watching for the 1st time like, "that background score sounds a little menacing for a hug."
What an amazing and flawless scene on every layer.
“I searched the faces of the gods, for ways to please you...” That’s every poor kid trying to get his dad’s approval.
Thank god Joaquin Phoenix got an Oscar for Joker. Because he should have won it for Gladiator, Walk the Line, and the Master. Hope he wins a second one for the Napoleon biopic. He’s gonna smash that role. Same director as Gladiator too so he’ll yeah.
Could be the best acting performance ever as an evil character
He may not have the four virtues but at least he's a hugger.
Greatest scene of the movie.
And thus Commodus became the Joker.
Idk y it Took me awhile to realize but Maximus throughout the film displays all these virtues .
Joaquin Phoenix should have won the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for "Gladiator". Russel Crowe should have actually won an Oscar for "A Beautiful Mind" not Gladiator.
Powerful moment, he stole the show in this...
This scene scared me
+Lewis Montgomerie I remember watching this at the cinema on my 15th birthday.
This scene shocked the whole cinema..... its a very deep scene that stays with you.
But to think that many caesers killed for power long before it was due to them... its not all that shocking really.
+The hard Tourist we watched this in history at school
He is a creepy actor, but he is one of my favourite actors
+Rally Harry He's a fantastic actor and no doubt a very charitable generous human being.
But he plays this role worryingly well, he slipped in to a loved starved psychopath too easily.
+The hard Tourist How do you know it was easy for him? He's an actor so he might make it look easy but on the other hand he might have had to put a lot of effort into it.
Amazing actor
This film without JF would have been brilliant. With him it's phenomenal
This is Phoenix best role ,true and intense.even so good as crowe
Both deserve Oscar’s. I can’t understand why JP never got one. What a waste of award that year.
Beautiful scene.
Beautifully TWISTED*
"Are you ready to do your duty, for cows?"
"Moo, father"
Joaquin Phoenix is the best actor in the world. He should have won his Oscar a long time ago.
“Your faults as a son, is my failure as a father “
He should’ve replied
“I know, and now it’s time to pay for your mistakes”
*muffled screams*
The Music makes me Cry... so Good!
My favorite part gladiator father what is it in me you hate me so much
What a heartbreaking scene
Patricide - Reminds me all these years later of Blade Runner.
To a lesser degree i understand where he's coming from having an older brother
I never understood why Joaquin phoenix did not win best supporting actor in this film . He was nominated but didn’t win.
you could say commodus take the news well.a powerful scene great acting by both actors
Poor Dumbledore got killed again.
The true fact is that Marcus Aurelius died because of a disease ,not because was murdered ,but anyway.. he was one of the greatest emperors and a great man.
Hm, basically telling his son "You're messed up because I messed up. No hard feelings, right?" wasn't exactly the wisest decision Marcus Aurelius could have made there.
Exactly .. that's why he killed him
Parenting class 10 cobblestones down and turn to your victus left.🤔
Psychopathic traits are not always parenting faults some not all.
Some people have a genetic predisposition towards fearless dominance that we see as early as 1 years old. And virtually all of them are male because the hormones are already factoring in. But from there it's about getting them to act pro social with that predisposition (a cop or military man) rather than anti social (a criminal). Most of that boils down to nurturing. I think Commodus was a case of not being validated for who he was snowballing over years. You could argue it was largely circumstantial as his father was very busy ruling an empire, and had high standards of excellence as a result. On top of that Commodus was still spoiled and entitled in some ways while neglected in others. Which can create an even bigger monster.
"your faults as a son, is my failure as a father" meaning "the reason you suck is because I didn't care about you." No wonder he murdered him...
The dialogue reminded me of a dialogue between Humphrey Bogart and Paul Henreid in the following movie. Paul told Humphrey something like Have you ever tried to escape your own prison? and you never succeed.Laszlo: You know how you sound, Mr. Blaine? Like a man who's trying to convince himself of something he doesn't believe in his heart. Each of us has a destiny - for good or for evil.Rick: Don't you sometimes wonder if it's worth all this? I mean what you're fighting for.
Laszlo: You might as well question why we breathe. If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die.
Rick: Well, what of it? It'll be out of its misery.
Laszlo: You know how you sound, Mr. Blaine? Like a man who's trying to convince himself of something he doesn't believe in his heart. Each of us has a destiny - for good or for evil.
Rick: I get the point.
Laszlo: I wonder if you do. I wonder if you know that you're trying to escape from yourself, and that you'll never succeed.
Rick: You seem to know all about my destiny.
Laszlo: I know a good deal more about you than you suspect. I know, for instance, that you are in love with a woman. It is perhaps a strange circumstance that we both should be in love with the same woman. The first evening I came into this cafe, I knew there was something between you and Ilsa. Since no one is to blame, I, I demand no explanation. I ask only one thing. You won't give me the letters of transit. All right. But I want my wife to be safe. I ask you as a favor to use the letters to take her away from Casablanca.
Rick: You love her that much?
Laszlo: Apparently, you think of me only as a leader of a Cause. Well, I am also a human being. Yes, I love her that much.Ref.: Casablanca (film) Casablanca is a 1942 American romantic drama film directed by Michael Curtiz based on Murray Burnett and Joan Alison's unproduced stage play Everybody Comes to Rick's. The film stars Humphrey Bogart, Ingrid Bergman, and Paul Henreid; it also features Claude Rains, Conrad Veidt, Sydney Greenstreet, Peter Lorre, and Dooley Wilson.Casablanca - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casablanca_(film)www.lifewire.com/memorable-movie-quotes-from-casablanca-4072866BergmanIlsa Lund Paul Henreid
Thank you for the video !! I am writing an essay about his virtues ...
Ambition... it kills.
kingship is a thing of experience.for safety reasons. it implies responsibilities so people don't get hurt in the process or betrayed like the content of this clip...
Question: was a part of this monologue by commodus’ character manufactured? Was he manipulating his father with guilt and sadness? I’m sure some of it was true...but his character is a sociopath, so how much of these lines of suffering were really about his feelings and not about gaining power?
scrainbow1234 Hard to say. He did seem genuinely hurt here
There's a deleted scene of him going to one of his Father's busts after Maximus reveals himself to be alive, he emotionally explodes and hacks it apart with his sword before putting his hand on the face of the bust and crying. So I think we can assume his sadness/anger over his Father was pretty real.
Thanks for the upload. You rock😝
There should have been a praetor or Maximus himself in the room as the Emperor drops this bombshell on his nasty son, but such is drama and the naive kindness of his character's heart.
Captions would be nice...some of us need them
Courage is fortitude
“perhaps not on the battlefield; there are many forms of courage...”
“How come he don’t want me, man?” There are many terrible things a father can do to his son, but not wanting him might be the most devastating.
Novus Ordo Seclorum, My friend!
Caesar was not prudent, when Maximus won the war he favored Maximus in front of the army, Comodus noticed that Maximus was dear to Caesar... he got jealous, yet knowing that he is not "a moral man" he calls him in private to tell him he will not inherit the throne?!! Caesar could have body guards around him...the first time I watched the movie I knew that guy would slain his father when he was given the "bad news" because he was already obssessed with power when he was on his way with his sister... I would keep it strictly to Maximus, set up the army and announce him in public and surround him with body guards and keep an eye on Comodus 24/24 one mistake isolate him in jail for the glory of the Empire...
Sometimes it pays a lot to accept an opportunity before you think for it overnight. You see Maximus should have accepted it immediately from Caesar. You see that stupid decision when he said he needs to think overnight had cost his wife and son's life. I pitied Maximus. Hes a good general but outwited by
a battle-inexperience- man. Thats why its good to settle a deal before it flies. Opportunity is gone! Its true when he said, What we do in life, it goes in eternity! That same fuckin word slaps him by the fact of what he did. He did not see and grab the ooportunity to become emperor and that goes to eternity.
ceaser is true......he didnt pick the next in line cause of rights he picked for the person that you are...pick someone right to rule. Now alot of leaders would had just gave it to next in line.......but he love his people.
"All I've ever wanted, is to live up to you...Caesar"
Are you ready to do your duty for rome?Commodus: (omfg! Im gonna be caesar!!!! Take that biyatch) YES FATHER. Marcus: you will not be caesar.
Commodus: ..................
Why ask a question that gives hope to your son then fuck him up with you will not be caesar. Now i understand why commodus was emotionally damaged person.
Dumbledore and joker
According to Aristotle, but close enough.
Define Self if after u watch this..
Ur fault as son is my failure as a father...
How many sons were DESTRPYED by their father's. Too much or too little love attention and money
Is that the late and great Sir Richard Harris?
wiinterflowers You lose the ‘Sir’ when you die by the way. Sorry.😐
@@qasimmir7117
He wasn’t a sir anyway
I can actually feel the son pain. My father doesnt hate me. I have younger brother. He's a Marine & Married. I know father favor my brother. My brother doesn't disappoint our father. I understand though. My father grow up the same way my brother did. It hurts when my father talks about my brother as if he's better. He Will compare my brother & I. Say things like Cori got this Cori can do that. I get it I'm a disappointment, a failure. Sometimes I wish was more like him. I wish was smarter faster & stronger. Instead of being a 26 year old looser. Living with his parents. No car no driver's licenses.
Build yourself up slowly. Get your independence and make your own way in life. You’ll feel proud to be who you are.
Don't live for your father, or parents' approval. Be a good, strong, virtuous man so that you can be proud of yourself, that YOU can be content with the way you are. THAT is far more important than anyone's approval.
O change thy thought, that I may change mt mund.
Taubte sp Brasil. My paul caesar. Neven Lord. Name Live.
Commodus was assassinated by the roman senate after accepting his consulship in gladiatoral uniform, quite an outrage at the time
Really? I thought he was assassinated by a former gay lover - an athlete - while he bathed, over some kind of personal dispute.
yes thats how it was carried out, but the senate was definetly behind it.
Commodus was gay? Didn't he have an incestuous love for his sister?
i have none of these but im gonna be emperor ;)
Who’s suppose to be portrayed in the statute behind Commodus?
The guy he murders
HANDS DOWN JOAQUIN