Korea: Admiral Yi - Lies - Extra History
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- 📜 History of Korea's Admiral Yi - Lies - Extra History
Yi's life has been turned into a Confucian parable: a highly competent person who bore betrayal stoically and stayed loyal to the king. Since there was no record of his early life, that pattern is reflected in the way his early life is described. That pattern of thinking clearly influenced the historians who did cover Yi's life, but while it stands out as unusual to those of us who aren't familiar with that tradition, it has a subconscious impact on the people who were raised with Confucian thinking and wrote this history from it. If we looked at Western history from a foreign perspective, we would likely notice similar patterns being overlaid onto Western ways of telling history as well.
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The most critical book of Yi was an autobiography...I fucking love this guy.
I know they say "Everyone is their own harshest critic", but Yi takes it to a new level.
There is no record of the completion of a turtle ship, and there is no record of it ever fighting against the Japanese army. Of the 13 ships that survived the Battle of Myeongliang, there were no turtle ships, and even if they sank somewhere, no wreckage has been found. The turtle ship is a lie fabricated by Koreans.
The last time Yi Sun-sin fought in a superior position against Japan was at the Battle of Hansando, just three months after the start of the war, when the Japanese army had not yet completed its equipment. For the next seven years, Yi Sun-shin was defeated in every battle. The 23 wins in 23 games that Koreans claim is a complete lie.
@@hiroono1Lol cope
@@McJethroPovTee The drawing of the turtle ship you are looking at was fabricated by Koreans 200 years after the war.
@@hiroono1okay
It's very telling that the only source saying Yi was a fallible human being who didn't 100% know what he was doing is his own damn journal.
As usual Yi is most straight-thinking, sensible guy in the room.
True
He is remembered as he lived. Doing other people's job for them.
@@solsystem1342 Historically, Yi Sun-shin did not win a single victory in the seven years after the Battle of Hansando. He launched surprise attacks, but was repulsed by the Japanese navy each time and retreated. The 23 wins from 23 games is a fabrication by later generations of Koreans.
Why do Koreans fabricate history?
Before the battle of myeongnyang, his mother was dead. He controled his sorrow and took naval commander.
Because his mother said to him before her death, "Go, and pay back national disgrace."
Tiger breeds tiger, not cat.
Awwwww........
But can cat breed tiger?
Woah, that's epic!
@Nazreen Horizon yeah Big Brain time
My big brain got six pack
Epic mama
Yi Sun-sin is the person who I am afraid of the most, hate the most, love the most, admire and respect the most, wish to kill the most, and want to have tea together the most.
- Wakizaka Yasuharu
......Waddafuck?
is that true??
Yeah. Even the Japanese generals respected Admiral yi.
Yi: *Squirts water at him*
Talk about bad ptsd...
"it is surprising how we hear so little of him in the west"
That is exactly what I taught when watching the series. I even shared it with this sentiment. I had not heard about this man before the series and I always taught of myself as a military history aficionado
Thank you for this series! .
It's not really surprising tbh.
Watch the movie roaring tides.
Thats like me a korean saying i dont know who Horatio Nelson is! And you consider yourself a military history aficionado! D:
@@ktwnrice it's a sad result of the euro-centrism in most historical works. While that is a massive blanket statement, it's the only way i could ever rationalize never having heard of this fucking LEGEND who i now consider the greatest naval commander to ever live.
Charles Moreau Nowadays he is respected as a god of war in Korea.
Dude the Admiral Yi story almost made me cry. That a man could be so loyal to his nation as to give his own life to the people who despised him for his entire existence and give them freedom from their oppressors... It's incredible.
That's a man..
well you gotta think of it this way. he sure as hell wasn't doing it for the king or the backstabbers in the royal courts; he was doing it for the regular people
It's was that incompetent king and one faction of the court who were afraid of popularity of Admiral Yi. There has never been more honored and celebrated figure like Admiral Yi.
As a Korean, I am very ashamed that there was such an incompetent and corrupt government and a king. However, there came a day when the fact that Admiral Yi Sun-shin was honest and loyal enough to look competent and mythical, and his story spread so widely in modern times that everyone knows the value of justice and solidity. this lesson makes me think that his existence is like God's footsteps in Korea. In the end, the future generation be came respect Admiral Yi Sun-sin, not the cowardly and mean Won Gyun.
@@PigeonsBox The last time Yi Sun-shin fought in a superior position against Japan was at the Battle of Hansando, just three months after the start of the war, when the Japanese navy had not yet completed its equipment. For the next seven years, Yi Sun-shin was defeated in every battle. The 23 wins in 23 battles that Koreans claim is a complete lie. This is a fact recorded in the Annals of the Joseon Dynasty.
I remember when my mom read me Yi's story as a bed time story, it said and I translate-quote, "The seas also wailed and thundered as Yi took his last breath."
It's a lie.
How do you know? Are you this person’s mama? 😂
4:23 Even the descendants of those defeated recognize Admiral Yi's greatness.
17:59 Even the British recognize Admiral Yi's greatness.
I had never heard of Admrial Yi until this video series. Now he is one of my favorite historical figures. Not just for his impressive military career, but for his monumental character.
Other figures may interest you like the Prince of Condé or Saint Louis (Louis IX).
Many countries share stories of people saving the day and change the events of History.
Look William Wallace :).
I admit Yi is some Alexander the Great level military genius.
They are all fakes.
It is a lie made by later Koreans to say that Yi Sun-shin won 23 games out of 23 battles. Yi Sun-shin had an advantage over the Japanese navy until the Battle of Hansando, three months after the start of the war, and for the next seven years, Yi Sun-shin continued to lose in every battle. This is clear from reading the Annals of the Joseon Dynasty and Yi Sun-shin's diary. Furthermore, there is no record of the completion of turtle ships or of any engagement with the Japanese navy. The success of the Turtle Ship is also a lie made up by Koreans.
In fact, almost all Japanese military commanders returned home safely and two years later they fought a large-scale civil war called the Battle of Sekigahara. In other words, the Japanese navy had surplus strength. On the other hand, almost all of Joseon's commanders, including Yi Sun-sin, had died, and there was no fighting force left in Korea, so a few years later, Korea lost the battle with Hongtaiji and became a vassal state of the Qing Dynasty.
Looking at this contrasting situation, it is clear to anyone who looks at it which side has the upper hand.
@@hiroono1일본군 사령관들이 조선의 높으긴 분에 비해 대부분 살아남아 귀국한 이유는
조선의 높으신 분들은 기본적으로 귀족이 아니라 공무원이었기 때문이다. '대충 왕족 빼고는 죽어도 뭐 문제는 없지' 같은 느낌인데.
일본 친구들은 내가 알기론 사정이 많이 다르다고 들었다.
일본은 당시 통일되어 있긴 했지만 사실상 하나의 국가가 아닌 연합체로 취급하는게 나을정도로 각 지방간의 사이가 좋지 않았고 문화나 이념도 많이 달라 사실상 다른 나라로 취급하는게 맞다.
걔넨 최고 사령관인 다이묘(영지의 주인)가 죽으면 밑에 가신들은 누구도 받아들여주지 않는 사람들이 되어서 평생을 거지처럼 돌아다니다 죽는다고 들었다.
그래서 일본에선 최고 지휘관을 무조건적으로 보호하는 느낌이 없잖아 있다고 들었다.
실제로도 일본 최고 지휘관을 구하는 업적은 이루 말할 것도 없는 종류의 것으로 받아들여져 큰 보상이 이루어지도 한다.
그래서 실제로는 최고 지휘관 바로 아래 직권을 가진 사람들 몇 명이 죽었는지 카운트하는게 도움이 될것이다.
그리고 해군의 싸움 양상도 크게 달라서 일본 장군들이 살아남은 이유로도 쳐주고 있다고 들었다.
조선의 장군들의 기함은 가장 거대하고 강한 함선이라서 최전선에서 싸웠지만
일본측 장군들의 기함은 조선의 것처럼 가장 거대하고 강한 종류의 것이었지만 안전을 위해 보통 함대 중앙 혹은 최후방에서 싸웠다는 것이다.
함대 최후방에 있어야 할 친구들이 몇명 죽을정도로 깨진거면 그리 정상은 아니다.
@@hiroono1그리고 청나라와의 전투가 고작 몇 년 후라고 묘사하고 있는데 이 사이에 조선에서는 반란이 일어나서 진압하느라 많은 노력을 기울여야했고
가장 큰 문제는 왕이 도망가지 못하고 잡힌거다.
그리고 애초에 일본이랑 싸우지만 않았어도 청나라는 생겨나지도 못했다.
조선과 명나라는 당시 합동해서 칭기즈칸이 세운 원나라와 같은 유목국가가 생기지 못하도록
몇 년마다 한 번씩 근처 유목 부족들을 철저하게 무너뜨리는 전쟁을 펼쳐서 그들이 절대로 연합하지 못하게 했다.
마침 청나라가 커져서 무너뜨려야 할 때 일본 애들이 침략해서 미리 정리를 못한 것 뿐이다.
I'm really sad we don't learn about this guy and this war in American schools. He is a true badass.
JamienautMark2 granted we don’t learn much in American Schools.
@@Rareknightking I really hate being so interested in geography and history with no support from even the damned "history" classes
Even college-level textbooks will give him and the Imjin War no more than a blurb or an aside.
Bruh my peers don’t even know American history properly🤣
XavierSanchez mhmm! 🤣
Sorry for being exhausted on this one, I _just_ got in from Norway...
-JP
+Extra Credits
Yes, I understand you been setting up snowcannon games?
Many of my classmates, myself included, hope to get a deal with them.
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Student at Hedmark university Collage.
+Extra Credits Huh I wasn't expecting a detective story for the next extra history, but I'm looking forward to it. I'd love to see the Hundred Years War or Caesar in Gaul
Can you do an episode on the rivalry/friendship of uesugi kenshin and takeda shingen?
+The Imbroglio you knows what kind of Wierd my dad he was born and raised in England and at school and he was taught that England won the Hundred Years' War
That is weird. But in England it is also taught that it was only the English who fought at Waterloo
I have been married to a Korean lady for 41 years, I went korea many times and saw the turtle boat live. I appreciate all your hard work, you did a great job. I love history, but we hear very little about the history in the Orient. Thank you.
Admiral Yi lies? That scoundrel! I'll have him demoted and sent to a border fort for this transgression!
Don’t forget to get all his hard work sunk into the sea then make him come back and win like before.
Woop-de-doo! We are all *sooooo* smart!
Everyone in the future- face palm
unifieddynasty your just gonna have to demote him again later.. :/
unifieddynasty its a cruel cycle for both sides xD
lmao
Yi's story is an example of the reason why I stopped reading fiction.
The real stories from history are more exciting, and more drama filled than are thought up for fiction.
The characters and people we find in history are greater, more wicked, and even sillier than can be found in fiction.
After all, look at today - who would have created for a story a character as strange & unique as Donald J Trump?? If the writers of West Wing had written such a character, they would have been laughed at, for no such character would be seen as possible.
Basically, history is more fun than fiction. Even more fun than Game Of Thrones, IMO.
Real life is stranger than fiction indeed
Definitely better than game of thrones
I disagree. Fiction and nonfiction serve two different roles. Some people prefer to stick to one and that's fine but I like both. Fiction is the place where we get myths, shows, books, and more that push the limits of what we can imagine. Lest are we never to write of the terrible things which must never be found lurking just beyond our knowlege? Should we never ponder what could not possibly be? How else would we all wonder what tastes almost exactly unlike tea? How else could we ponder our humanity through examining stories nonhuman people? Fiction can also just be good fun. Frequently nonfiction does not have foreshadowing, payoff, justice, etc. and it can be refreshing to exist in a world that does for a bit. Got way too dramatic there but fiction and nonfiction are both great and I can't imagine my life without either.
I'll tell you the truth. As a Korean, Korean history is full of lies. Honest Japanese teach history honestly, but Koreans don't. The reason the story about Yi Sun-sin is only famous in Korea is because most of it is a lie. According to an honest historical study of Japan, Yi Sun-sin was not a great person. Therefore, there is hardly any story about Yi Sun-sin in Japanese history classes.
@@jennypin8895 Oh, really?
I suppose the forcing Korean women to be sex workers during WW2 never happened.
Japan has never acknowledged or apologized for that.
I suppose the horrific inhumane treatment and slaughter of POW's in WW2 also never happened.
Regarding Yi, I suppose Japan lost those battles out of kindness.
If you want to be a reader of history, you have to learn two things ---
read many sources, not just one, and
no one has "truth".
"Truth" is what you come to accept after reading sources, and doing what you can to determine their veracity.
One more thing, the official histories of countries will expand their "great" achievements (like Korea's celebration of Yi) but also hide or lie about their shameful episodes (like Japan's stupid and cruel invasion of Korea, or WW2 for that matter.)
Admiral Yi was a stone-cold badass. One of my favorite warriors of all time.
Image him joining forces with Belisarius....
Would like to know the others
Was Yi's life really the Confucian parable that it seemed? And was Walpole behind it all? #ExtraHistory
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+Extra Credits Can't get rid of me that easily. ;)
+Robert Walpole Oh, we wouldn't expect to!
+Robert Walpole hey Walpole! where did you hide in this series?
+Extra Credits 4:21 there is NO record what so ever Tōgō Heihachirō mentioning about Yi.
as far as i know this story is based on korean novel, not historical documents nor facts. im huge fan of Russo - japan war history, but i have Never heard of him mentioning about Yi.
+Extra Credits You guys really bring history alive, you know that?
If ya'll ever do something with ancient Egypt, can I suggest the rise and fall of Atenism and the end of the 18th Dynasty?
4:38 THIS. I'm surprised there aren't more books on Admiral Yi's exploits during the imjin war. Seriously, it's filled with amazing, colorful characters, the event is suitably apolcaliptic, the japanese make an excellent villanous foil to yi.... I've read enough fiction about Alexander, Nelson, Napoleon and the rest of the lot. Give me a historical epic starring Yi Sun Sin!
VMLM3 There are a few well known fictional books about Admiral Yi...in Korean. Two I can think of are called "Song of the Sword" and "Immortal."
The more villanous in Admiral Yi's story is his very own government (with the exception of his friend).
It is a lie made by later Koreans to say that Yi Sun-shin won 23 games out of 23 games. Yi Sun-shin had an advantage over the Japanese army until the Battle of Hansando, three months after the start of the war, and for the next seven years, Yi Sun-shin continued to lose in every battle. This is clear from reading the Annals of the Joseon Dynasty and Yi Sun-shin's diary. Furthermore, there is no record of the completion of turtle ships or of any engagement with the Japanese army. The success of the Turtle Ship is also a lie made up by Koreans.
In fact, almost all Japanese military commanders returned home safely and two years later they fought a large-scale civil war called the Battle of Sekigahara. In other words, the Japanese army had surplus strength. On the other hand, almost all of Joseon's commanders, including Yi Sun-sin, had died, and there was no fighting force left in Korea, so a few years later, Korea lost the battle with Hongtaiji and became a vassal state of the Qing Dynasty.
Looking at this contrasting situation, it is clear to anyone who looks at it which side has the upper hand.
IMO it's a damn shame how little there is available on Korean history in English, I'm glad you were able to find what there is about Yi and make it accessible to such a wide audience!
Japanese-Korean war series followed by the Broad Street Pump - so eclectic, I love it.
I think these 'Lies' episodes are perhaps the most important aspect of this series, it really helps to learn a little bit more about the sources used, alternate interpretations and the historical cultures which impact the sources and your own telling of the stories. Many thanks
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You guys did an OUTSTANDING job on Admiral Yi's story. Bravo! I loved the accuracy, and the whole presentation. I also loved the Sengoku Jidai series as well. You have an extraordinary team. As a Korean, I salute you!!!
I sincerely hope those in the West learn more about my personal historical hero -- 이순진 장군 (Admiral Yi Sun Shin).
17:49 Can't forget about me!
I love you
+Ian Anderson I love him more!
+Robert Walpole I don't like you
+Robert Walpole This account took way too long to be created.
You rotten son of a bitch.
I knew it was only a matter of time before you surfaced again.
Thanks James, its so nice to see someone so passionate about history, my hat is off to you
I am loving these extra history videos. Thank you for all the work that goes into them.
This man was one of the greatest humans of all time.
Hehe very few man lived to be called in such reputation
For now i will be Extra Credits hardcore fan.
i totally respect the team who made those awesome videos
and thank you for telling the story of Yi.
Thank you...so much ;)
I keep coming back for this, imo this is your best series to date.
Come to think of it, there's a proposal in South Korea to have one single history textbook that all history classes in the country must use. Needless to say, it's stirred up a lot of controversy, and I think it's good we had this story done now, as it's probably going to become harder to find these sources in the near future.
That being said, it isn't that far removed from what's currently happening, which is that history instructors must pick a textbook from a list of government-approved ones. So regardless, history can only really be taught on the government's terms.
@Overhazard, the primary purpose of that movement was to glorify a former dictator Jung Hee Park because he was the father of the now impeached ex-president Geun Hae Park. I agree having only one unified government-endorsed source is a dangerous thing. Thankfully, that movement is totally quelched as of now.
extra history has become one of my favorite series on youtube. can't wait till next week.
Gotta love how James throws in a connection to Walpole at the end of every series. I love Extra History, and the "Lies" episodes are often the most entertaining portions of each series. But man, Admiral Yi was a badass...
Loved this series. I learned a lot and Yi's story was really good. Keep up the good work!! And thank you for the history lesson :)
I really freaking love hearing all this history of from places my school forgets about - and you guys are doing a great job telling these amazing stories. Keep it up!
Japan: check
Korea: check
how about China, I suggest the three kingdoms
Ross Martin Reynado too broad
Please do it for rise of Chinese empire.
About Bai Qi.
Burying the entire male population of rival nation alive. GENOCIDE!!!!!
He didn't do that. He buried the soldiers of a surrendered army because he can't feed it and he was worried they'd just get back into the fight if he released them. Even then the veracity of this story is pretty disputed.
how about the ming-qing wars? the guan-ning defense line (china's maginot line, but more successful)was legendary, and they had armoured cavalry with short muskets.
however actual records and descriptions will have to be pulled from official chinese documents (they still exist), and historical sources as there aren't anywhere enough english sources on this.
They already have one episode with them as (one of the) leads, the first opium war
I love all these wonderful history videos your channel makes. Extra Credits is my favourite youtube channel by far. Thank you as always for the great work you all do, you entertain and educate with great proficiency :)
Thank you very much for making this. I always admired Admiral Yi. This was very informative.
This channel has quickly become one of my favorites. A great channel and very informative. I look forward to all of your newest videos. Thank you and keep up the great work.
I would like to also note that Yi's history had a very deep cultural impact on Korea. Due to it's geological location, Korea had developed a culture of nationalism and distrust of other nations from the constant threat of invasions, and the Korean culture therefore valued family members and close friends over strangers, competent or not (hence the corruption). Yi's triumphs against this system were able to legitimize the ideology of the self-made man, and this ideology along with the former are exhibited within contemporary South Korea and North Korea, respectively.
Both Koreas' cultures value equality very much: North Korea focused on equality of return (communism), while South Korea focused on the equality of opportunity (capitalism). Neither cultures enjoy seeing other individuals succeed more than they, for better and worse.
What a simplistic and completely unfounded load of nonsense. I advise people to ignore this.
***** Simplistic, I agree. There is no way I can give these cultures justice in a CZcams comment's length. But these are some of the most prevalent theories from human geography regarding Korea; if you are interested there are countless books you can read.
I would like to emphasize that my comment regards cultures and values, not individuals. Every individual from every culture exercises a wide variety of investment depth, so while cultural values can be shared, to say individuals weigh these shared values equally would be a terrible generalization.
+RunItsTheCat Wow....you have some sharp eyes there
very sharp indeed
+RunItsTheCat Excellent analysis. I think most cultures place value on equality, whether out of actual ideological conviction or desire to justify the inequality within them.
I was never really a history person, but you tell your stories in such an interesting way that I love learning about it.
A series about Napoleon ? That would be cool.
Not to mention the French Revolution... Not sure which one would be better!
+Jeff Metzel Why not both? :)
+Jeff Metzel Only wars french can win, is a war against themselves.
+kummerk lol this was savage
Kenneth Villanueva ;)
Fantastic work, I thoroughly enjoyed watching this series. I plan on watching more shortly!
Man your history series are the best. So easy to digest while multi-tasking.
My connection with Walpole:
When Japanese soldiers trampled through Korea, they were taking prisoners of war and later sold some of them as slaves to the Portguese whom they were trading at the time. Now, Reuben saw one of the captured slaves and made a sketch of him... this was the first western first-hand account of a Korean. He later used this figure as inspiration in his paintings...
And who was a major patron to Reuben's work? Robert Walpole! In fact, some of his collections now sit alongside the painting which contains a (supposedly) a Korean figure in Vienna.
Gotta respect Togo for saying that about the guy that beat his country.
Technically, in the Korean invasion, the Korean and Ming Chinese had more casualties than the Japanese.
More than 250000 Joseong soldiers and civilians were killed along with 36000 Chinese(including 157 warships). On the other hand, Toyotomi shogunate lost 80000 men and 460+ warships.
But, I think the greatest Japanese achievement was taking down Admiral Yi.
Heard Japanese Imperial Navy got their own memorial service for Admiral Yi wishing their good fortune in wars to come.
In Edo period Japan, they studied Joseon from written by their own Prime Minister, Ryu Seong-ryong(who was Yi's friend) so they knew what Yi did from Korean POV.
@@sayakroy010 Which makes sense I mean, the attacks were mostly conducted on korean soil.
@@sayakroy010 lose the battle but won the war. Soviet Russia had more casualties than Germany but still sacked Berlin
@@sayakroy010 I really don’t like weebs
Thank you so much for this series. This is incredible.
I can't wait until the next episode!
I love these series. You can find out so many interesting stuff. It's amazing!
awesome, just awesome!!! thank you for the brilliant series that you create and please continue to do so :) best way to learn history presented as a really cool story
can you do sejong the great
Yes!
That would be GREAT
That would be a great subject for this Series 😊🤙🏼
@@poutine4400 the internet is yours
He wasn’t that great.
I love extra history i watch it every saturday its a fun way to learn history and its clean unlike other channels keep on going making extra history
i love how u made this series since i was a child he was the man i most admired
its inspirational for me even having such difficulties he held his post
I don't know if there is english translation for this but, if anyone who want's to find one of the most detailed and credible resources in joseon history in korea's perspective(including imjin war), try reading 'The annals of joseon dynasty'. It was written in joseon period and is far more detailed then chinese annals(i don't know there is an annal in japan), but it could be biased in terms of who was in power when it was written( because of this, the annals of danjong and sejo could be biased for the ones who wrote it were the ones who helped sejo overthrow danjong). It is the 1st source historians look for when studying joseon history here in korea.
I love the Extra History series, the lies episodes are less interesting but the fact that you have them to give additional support and validity to the series episodes, makes the episodes even more worth watching because you get a better sense that the material is credible.
I have only just stumbled across these after subscribing to extra credits for game design videos. Such great content there. But I LOVE history! And different history! Not the same old stories, and not told the same old way from the one side!
I am loving these videos! And the passion you show in telling these stories! Keep up the amazing work!
Thank you guys for all the hard work!
Admiral Yi a person Grand Admiral Thrawn would respect.
Battleship009
I've been considering Admiral Yi to be the real life version of Grand Admiral Thrawn for a while now. Gotta love Yi.
Damn, you have a point
I only watch for the history vids anyone else
+rodom303 Nope, used to but their other stuff is really good as well.
+rodom303 I mostly watch this but I'm a video game nerd too so I do watch ones that are interesting.
+tf2 toast Same here.
I used to watch there gaming videos before they turned into SJWs .So now i only watch the history ones.
+rodom303 I'm starting to watch their gaming vids less, but they still run an excellent show.
+Raptor King They didn't change--you just got dumber.
Thanks for all this research, to resume them and even put the light to where we can be sceptic, is an incredible work and gift for us :)
Truly brilliant. Thank you for putting this together :)
This has been awesome, as always. I kind of teared up over yi dying at the end of his last battle.
I think it's great that you discuss your sources and their interpretation in your concluding episodes. Almost all of popular history usually pretends that history is just a bunch of facts that are somehow magically and objectively known to historians.
Did anyone else cry at the last stand😭
GREAT WORK👍
Narration, illustration , soundtrack everything had me warped into this great historic story of an epic hero,
Admiral Yi Sun Shin is really deserving to be called the Spirit of Korea✨
Admiral Yi was a feature character in K-Drama, Gu-Family Book, but they really majorly underplayed him, after watching this and seeing the turtle ship I remember this was in the drama and his character depiction.
Love your videos - just found your channel yesterday and I am hooked.
Keep doing what you doing- AWESOME👊
I have so much respect for this for the fact that you guys go back and review what you got wrong what stories were not included aw I love this so much good on you guys.
Very awesome series on admiral Yi! Great channel sir!
Gotta say, videos like this is why I respect you guys so much. Not only do you present a coherent narrative, but you're honest about any mistakes, weaknesses of your sources and the stuff you left out too. Major props dude.
This youtuber is a genius. I've never seen such fine work.
Walpole is going to become the new Illuminati.
''A man said a famous sentence about Yi. That man was a part of a court created 2 centuries ago by Walpole.
WALPOLE CONFIRMED''
Did he save the tree?
My thoughts exactly
+Stikasasn considering that he got demoted...I doubt it
+catfishwithwhiskers RIP Yi Tree
+Stikasasn And thus the last entwife died.
+Stikasasn
the trYi will live on in memory
I'd like to add a little more about the war's effect on the region. The cost of the war was pretty steep for China, but steeper still for Korea. Years of Japanese occupation and war meant that Korea by the end was utterly exhausted. Their fleet, despite Yi's best efforts, was largely destroyed. Many Korean villages, towns and cities were burned and looted. Hundreds of thousands died. You could compare this event to the Korean War of 1950-1953 in that it left the peninsula in ruins.
All in all, the war was a Pyrrhic victory in the long term, because the Manchus would be entering the world stage shortly after. With Korea left weak and closed off, the Ming had to effectively face the Manchus alone. And as we know, the Ming's efforts just weren't enough, and so their dynasty fell, while the Manchu Qing became the next dominant Asian superpower.
If you looked at enough Chinese history, when a Chinese dynasty had to rely on a foreign power to keep power or to defend against invaders, it usually signals the beginning of the end for their rule. Ming China was brought down by an internal rebellion and the Manchus were actually invited into China to defeat the rebels (which was one of Nurhaci's main claim to the Mandate of Heaven). This rebellion was in turn caused by Ming China's reliance on European silver (mined from the Americas) as currency. High supply from the Spanish colonies (and Japan) caused increasing inflation, which required more coins/taels to be minted. When that supply was cut off, the price of silver skyrocketed, disrupting the economy and preventing the peasantry from exchanging their produce for silver to pay their taxes. No taxes means the government must demand higher tax rates to keep thing running, which mean even those that can pay becomes increasingly angry and destitute. Reduced government services also means the grain stores are empty. So when the Little Ice Age hit and crops failed across the country, the country starved and revolts sprang up across the entire country.
hahaha01357 ...to be fair, it was one desperate, isolated Ming general that made the decision to open up the gates to the Manchus. Chongzhen the last emperor even in his last days never made peace and allied with the Manchus. He did tried to recall the said general and his army back but it was too late. Ming was long weakened with the causes you mentioned
oh your videos r great. I am korean but i cant stop watching these even though i already knew most of this history. ur videos r interesting , well produced , quite detailed, and remarkable thing is that ur videos r based on the fact in history perfectly. there's no errors or lies. im going to watch another videos. Thanks teacher!
I am so glad you do videos talking about your method and info credibility!
Thank you so much for this series; it really means a lot!
P.S. Some other facts are that during the reign of Seonjo, despite how bad it was, there were many prominent figures of Korea during this time. If it wasn't for the corruption, divided/polarized parties, and a better leader those figures probably would have defended against Japan pretty well and led Korea to another golden age. Some of the figures are:
Yi Hwang - Prominent Confucian scholar (one on the 1000 won) and he taught Ryu Seong-ryong.
Yi I - Also another prominent Confucian scholar (one on the 5000 won) and one of the people who predicted the Japanese invasion and wanted to prepare 100,000 soldiers (even he proposed it as the minister of defense, naturally rejected).
Heo Jun - Legendary doctor of Korea.
I almost forgot. Korea also had weapons like Hwa-cha which shoots 100-200 arrows that explodes on impact. The reason Koreans decided to stick with the bows are that the range of the bows were actually further than the guns *at this period of time* and Koreans, due to relative low population (compared to the enemies) for the past several thousands of years, figured out that we need to kill the enemy at range to minimize our losses (aka bow = tradition). Also during the war, Koreans created timed-exploding cannon ball called Bi Gyeok Jin Cheon Roi (비격진천뢰). Anyhow, Koreans were not behind, if not ahead, in weapons. (Sobs about the failures in administration and leadership)
국뽕은 1절만 하자...
It's not really 국뽕. The fact that many of the 의병s held their ground well against the Japanese troops throughout the war demonstrates that the tech gap wasn't wide - the series accurately notes that the Japanese land troops were seasoned veterans with brilliant commanders who survived a free-for-all civil war, and the untrained Korean army had no chance.
Calm yourself and choose your words carefully. Those weapons you claimed that Koreans "invented" already existed as early as in the Song dynasty of China, over 300 years before the imjin war. Koreans was not "ahead" of the Japanese, which was arguably the best arquebusiers excluding the Europeans.(definitely ahead of korea in that regard). And the whole part about using bows being a Korean tradition is just hilarious, everyone use bows at the time lol. And if those "Hwa-Cha" and cannon balls were so effective, the koreans would have won the war with ease, instead of relying on the Ming Chinese army on land. It is pretty clear that Ming's cannon and cavalry is more effective than any fancy primitive firearms you mentioned, sorry but I have to epose your nationalist fantasy.
@@sephiroxicalcloud3771 Why are you so angry, bro?
Chinese nationalism is a hell of a drug.
Why let a disease outbreak in London get in the way of a good crusade ?
why let government officials demoting you constantly get in the way of a good navy commander
Lol! I was waiting for a long time what Walpole got to do with the episode! I am ABSOLUTELY satisfied!
YES. Thank you for adding a video for the music. THANK. YOU.
You know who you should focus on next?
That one Female Chinese Pirate.
ShadowWolfRising
They eventually covered her.
I really hope that next Extra History involves more of the humor that really drew me into Extra History in the first place. South Sea Bubble was my favorite series.
It's really about context. What they seem to do is pick out an event in history and tell a story based on the events. The genre is kind of determined on what happened though. The south sea bubble is ripe for comedy because it's almost too ridiculous to believe that they got away with it all. There's really no other way to tell the story of Admiral YI or the Sengoku Jidai without being war epics. And the start of ww1 works perfect as a tradgedy. So there will probably be more comedic series in the future it just depends on the story they choose like the invasion of Iceland in ww2 for instance and play them for absurdist humor
+Megan Brent Seminal Tragedy was in some ways black comedy, such as the whole the bungling of the assassins. Otherwise, totally agree.
another fantastic series guys. great job.
I love Extra History keep up the good work guys
Speaking of Nelson, I honestly would like a series of him too, well if it's that timeline then I [kinda more like Napoleon himself but yeah Nelson would also be an awesome topic
Also how the heck is Yi's own account so....uh humble and such? Like it's quite amazing how he doesn't really raise himself extremely high from what I have seen. Not only is Yi an amazing Admiral but a person of amazing morals (Well we can easily see that from despite how he was treated he tried his best)
Man. . . I love your history series. I especially loved this one because I was stationed in Korea for two years when I was in the army. I majored in Math in college but I had fun competing against our History major in ROTC when we both took military history together and I got better marks than him. I love what you are doing, especially "getting out of the box" of Western history and giving us more stuff from Asia and Africa. Keep up the great work. I'm always looking forward to the next episode.
Thank you for all the information.
I always want to know about the most be loved Admiral Yi.
Learning history about the great human beings are so inspiring.
I wish one more video in Korea could be done... I would try to become a patron for it.... How do you guys even do this!?!? It's amazing... love it
I _love_ the hand-in-hand stuff where Japan is completely changed by that Korea encounter.
Knock-on-effects are so interesting.
I'd love to see a series that, instead of covering a single period, tries to highlight unexpected details that had a profound effect on world history. - The What Ifs of history.
One of the greatest such documentaries I've ever seen was one by or with Carl Sagan where he explained how the Napoleonic Wars, in a very convoluted manner with several stages of knock-on-effect in between, eventually gave rise to rockets.
Now it's obvious that, had it not been for the Napoleonic Wars, something similar would have happened _eventually_ instead, but it's still really interesting to see where various types of tech came from.
Sadly that particular documentary was one I saw years ago on a cassette tape at school and I don't know how exactly it was called. I was unable to find it again on Google or CZcams by just looking for Carl Sagan Napoleonic Wars Rockets or something like that. I really wish I could find it again.
Anyway, if you manage to get such a long-form across-the-ages series going, that would be great!
I found the story of Admiral Yi very interesting, and haunting. Much of the story reminded me of a movie I had just watched called "The Admiral." So I looked up the movie and found that yes, it was about the same person. You really did a great job of explaining the back story for me. Thank you.
Great Episode, I used to live in Busan and read lots on the local history so this brings back good memories!
If I had a history teacher like you, I would have chosen a different career. Bravo. Keep up the great work.
From one sentence, you will know the greatness of admiral Yi: He beat 133 Japanese ships with 12 ships without loss of ship.
Awesome, could you do an episode (I doubt it needs a full series) on the wars of German unification?
Very interesting lies episode! Keep up the good work lads!
The thing I really love abuot Extra History is that you guys pick awesome subjects to talk about. Back when I was at school, history was just kinds and queens, WWI, WWII and that's about it. I really hated history. I have really loved each and every one of your history series, and it's my #1 place for finding out about the coolest people in human history.
Genghis Khan and Mongol Empire please!
I knew Walpole was coming in at some point!
#dammitWalpole
Zeta Phi #dammitWalpole
+Tank 1900 Please let this hashtag become a trend! I love it!
Robert Walpole did...did I just recieve official endorsement for #dammitWalpole ? Action stations, action stations, prepare to enact operation #dammitWalpole .
Robert Walpole do it
I know I'm not a patron, and therefore have no right to ask, but perhaps one of the next series could be about New Zealand colonial history? Being a Kiwi, I was beat over the head with it at school, but it was done so dryly that I can't even remember much about it today. There are the seeds for an interesting look at how the Maori fought the British and won some interesting battles. There are a few great chiefs that could be focused on too, like Te Rauparaha. I'd love to see what you guys could do with it, and I'm certain that most people outside New Zealand wouldn't have much knowledge of it, so it would be something new for them.
Absolutely love Extra History! It's my favourite youtube show after Extra Credits! :P This is my second favourite series so far. My favourite was the lead up to WW1. This video got me thinking though... I don't know how Korea ended up as a divided nation. I will go and research that now, but I would really enjoy it if some of your future series dealt with how the world became what it is today.
One of the most memorable aspects of Final Fantasy XI was its beautiful, epic music. I just love how well it complements the Extra History series.
Those curtains are pretty amazing.
Thank for for this series I have never been more proud to be Korean!
love the new camera angle! much less awkward and I can watch you whilst you talk :)
You have become much better in front of a camera than when I saw you for your first recommend games video :)
Would it be possible to obtain a list of the sources you used? I have a brother doing a research project on Admiral Yi (a choice Inspired in no small part by this video series) and having some references to look at would be an enormous help.
who said that History is borring?
DelphosPlay thats why i love this channel
James, why were you not my History teacher? I'm glad that today's students will get to perhaps see these videos in class and perhaps help people realize how interesting this can be.
have to say it again... "On to important stuff... Walpole!" so serious so fun. love these videos!