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  • Tyhone #2 could get it.
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  • @MercuryA2000
    @MercuryA2000 Před 2 lety +458

    4:29 The immediate "I need to get this random 20 year old card before each copy costs 200$" is hilarious.

    • @mayayamato7351
      @mayayamato7351 Před 2 lety +48

      and of course now on tcgplayer its $2 or $4 depending on the printing, quite possibly due to being in this video.

    • @thepieguyinthesky2363
      @thepieguyinthesky2363 Před 2 lety +32

      @@mayayamato7351 it's exactly cause of this video, it went from 80 cents in March 13th, to 1.50 March 14th and it's slightly gone up since.

  • @josecolon5750
    @josecolon5750 Před 2 lety +189

    The pure psychic damage from summoning the easter island moa is actually how the universe was created.

    • @froggo_doggo7313
      @froggo_doggo7313 Před rokem +6

      maining trey in duel links for this purpose

    • @Capta1nTD
      @Capta1nTD Před rokem +4

      I am literally building an Adamancipator deck for the first time just to play this card lmao

    • @Dz73zxxx
      @Dz73zxxx Před rokem +6

      As a remaininh chronomaly player in edopro...well thats just casual for me. SS moai from hand.
      Am i a divine being?

    • @Brawler_1337
      @Brawler_1337 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Dz73zxxxI played Chronomaly Machu Mech OTK for a spell, but that was before emojis made a meme of the Easter Island head.

  • @GroundThing
    @GroundThing Před 2 lety +1002

    Just on the topic of Dark Witch, I always have had a burning dislike of that card, as she's neither dark, nor a witch (spellcaster).

    • @DaviRenania
      @DaviRenania Před 2 lety +241

      Maybe I'm about to put in shambles your whole world view, but her original name is Valkyria, and many of her show up in D/D/D's Dark Contract with the Valkyias.

    • @8bitdiedie
      @8bitdiedie Před 2 lety +174

      @@DaviRenania Bad TCG translations strike again

    • @garrettsmith4034
      @garrettsmith4034 Před 2 lety +27

      That card is a national treasure.

    • @ilngsisfh
      @ilngsisfh Před 2 lety +38

      The Holy Roman Empire of card names

    • @_Prismadoll
      @_Prismadoll Před 2 lety +83

      Don’t even get me started on The Fiend Megacyber. The dude is neither Fiend, Machine, nor Cyberse. He’s a Warrior. What a liar

  • @CrimsonKobaNakirigumi
    @CrimsonKobaNakirigumi Před 2 lety +573

    I'm always amazed by the Instant Fusion targets. Seeing Fusionist or Darkfire Dragon in an extra deck full of good cards is incredible.

    • @LiveTwinReaction
      @LiveTwinReaction Před 2 lety +57

      Kaminari Attack too. I was gonna reply to the tweet with it but it was, obviously, because of instant fusion, so no point.

    • @lilsunny7399
      @lilsunny7399 Před 2 lety +24

      Rare fish in Kragen

    • @Supahnindoh
      @Supahnindoh Před 2 lety +19

      I was playing 3 ready fusion paired with Dragoness the wicked Knight in my Phantom Knights deck as an extender. You can also special Takentomborg if you draw it, as Dragoness is a wind type.

    • @Zetact_
      @Zetact_ Před 2 lety +36

      And those oldass fusions still saw more play than the strongest monster of 2017.

    • @Teebs1996
      @Teebs1996 Před 2 lety +15

      Dragoness the Wicked was cracked in Gouki Knightmare because it was level 3, warrior, and wind, so it worked with taketomborg, invoker, and isolde

  • @sekaihunter9378
    @sekaihunter9378 Před 2 lety +90

    I remember Tellarknights once played the literal worst monster in their archetype: Satellarknight Rigel specifically to get rid of Nekroz Unicore, because it's a normal summon 1900 that can boost its attack by 500 to bump over Unicore's 2300. And I'm not joking, but that card literally won Tellarknights the 2015 World Championship in the final against Nekroz.

  • @TheIain531
    @TheIain531 Před 2 lety +516

    At my locals the popular dai target for adamancipator was Angel trumpeter. Was an earth for block but was also a tuner, so gave you halq access in edge cases

  • @drunkennephilim2995
    @drunkennephilim2995 Před 2 lety +162

    Flamvell guard in Dragon rulers came to mind immediately with this, it seemed so out of place until you see Crimson blader in the extra for the mirror

    • @Skasaha_
      @Skasaha_ Před 2 lety +17

      Flamvell Guard still sees occasional play whenever Carboneddon is involved.

    • @CobaltSanderson
      @CobaltSanderson Před 2 lety +9

      It also saw play in Blue Eyes at one point as a target for both Cards of Consonance and Azure Eyes

    • @xCorvus7x
      @xCorvus7x Před rokem +1

      Has Flamvell Guard not always had a place in Dragon Synchro decks (back before Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon was erratad)?

  • @alucard4344
    @alucard4344 Před 2 lety +168

    Magical hats was used in Ancient Gears so that your opponent destroys your Geartown "by battle" and proc it's effect to summon 2 ancient gears from deck.
    Usually wyvern and reactor dragon

    • @alucard4344
      @alucard4344 Před 2 lety +18

      Yeah, they nerfed magical hats by adding an extra line to s/t. It's real.

    • @MetaKaios
      @MetaKaios Před 2 lety +15

      @S V Also, if it's an Equip card, or somehow becomes an Equip card, it can be destroyed by game mechanics if its equipped monster is destroyed.
      …I dunno if there's actually any effects that allow you to treat a non-Equip S/T (except itself) as an Equip, but it could just be future-proofing.

    • @royteets2421
      @royteets2421 Před 2 lety +6

      Yes this play was insane in 2007.

    • @azulthecerulean2.049
      @azulthecerulean2.049 Před 2 lety +5

      Also used in harpies to go plus 3 off of harpie sign

    • @zoa9720
      @zoa9720 Před 2 lety +12

      You could just play a second Geartown over it too, since that used to destroy field spells.

  • @SFUTH
    @SFUTH Před 2 lety +116

    Man, I remember playing Tyhone #2 in Hazy Flames. God I wish that deck won the create-a-card challenge.
    Days since last Hazy Flame support: 2,859

    • @danielramsey6141
      @danielramsey6141 Před 2 lety +4

      You and me both man! Seriously, I hate internet polls. Cause we clearly will never get good shit for decks that even did remotely well!

  • @apocrypha5363
    @apocrypha5363 Před 2 lety +99

    Imagine being at Duelist Kingdom, where the starting LP was 2,000.
    Ookazi, Ookazi, Final Flame, hand over your starchips, Mako.

  • @ogeid772
    @ogeid772 Před 2 lety +100

    I remember playing Pendulum Storm in the Pendulum Magician side deck for the mirror. Duelist Alliance can search it, but it doesnt require you to have a card in the pendulum zone, only that any player have it, so you could search the Pendulum Storm, clear your opponent’s scales and get rid of their Time Pendulumgraph, all without commiting a single card onto the field to be popped by the Time Pendulumgraph or the destroyed Purple Poison. It was really cool in the mirror, but it was PENIS BAD against literally everything else

    • @GeneralNickles
      @GeneralNickles Před 2 lety +8

      Pendulum storm was legitimately good in any meta where most people are playing pendulums. Even up to when electrumite was out and magician's took over for the 3rd time.

  • @nuttysboythatoneguy6566
    @nuttysboythatoneguy6566 Před 2 lety +41

    If I recall correctly from deck profiles, Beta was the Dai target in some Adamancipator decks because it was able to beat over 3 Mat Appo after it used one negate

    • @Capta1nTD
      @Capta1nTD Před rokem +5

      That may be true, but that's not nearly as strong as the opponent instascooping from the disrespect that is summoning the easter island head.

  • @KaitlynFedrick
    @KaitlynFedrick Před 2 lety +205

    Struggling to see how "Neos Alius is good because it happens to be a 4* light gemini hero" isn't EXACTLY the kind of stars aligning in a way that means it happens to be good

    • @DeviousHands
      @DeviousHands Před 2 lety +77

      because the host is a hero player

    • @screwtokaiba
      @screwtokaiba Před 2 lety +59

      The point is kinda Neos Alius wasnt entirely carried by GSpark. After the Destiny engine drop offs, Alius is by proxy the best target for a long time and theres a massive chasm between Alius/Stratos and the rest. Helps that theres multiple time up to late 5d where simply being a normal 1900 is unironically good since it trades to TKRO which Stratos is helpless against and Hero Blast basically had Alius written on its name. The card was solid without Spark. Spark push it into the most well supported card in the entire game from a competitive standpoint

    • @royteets2421
      @royteets2421 Před 2 lety +35

      Older formats man, it legit was the only way to play heros till shadowmist came out unless you played the lvl 3 vanilla's with a lot of a lot of polymerization cards which was booty.

    • @Arthas35788
      @Arthas35788 Před 2 lety +17

      lv 4, 1900 atk, hero in his name, is a light and is a gemini. You could use gemini spark, honest and hero stuff with it.

    • @MD-vs9ff
      @MD-vs9ff Před 2 lety +11

      @@Arthas35788 the point is the card itself doesn't do jack shit, the stars just align on it being able to benefit from tons of support from favored archetypes and attributes.

  • @Aorpheat
    @Aorpheat Před 2 lety +33

    As a person playing Ice Barriers in 2022, and have been playing Ice Barriers since 2009, seeing an Ice Barrier card that was at one point meta makes me so immensely happy.

    • @joanaguayoplanell4912
      @joanaguayoplanell4912 Před rokem +7

      Well, all your syncros have been meta at some point. Even the new one, it's pretty good in all kinds of syncro decks. My Crystal Beast deck adores being able to slam it down on turn 2.

    • @azurabbit12
      @azurabbit12 Před rokem

      I am so sorry

    • @twoscarabsintheswarm9055
      @twoscarabsintheswarm9055 Před 17 dny

      Must be happy now

    • @Aorpheat
      @Aorpheat Před 17 dny

      @@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 Extremely. The new support is absolutely insane!

  • @Alb410
    @Alb410 Před 2 lety +57

    You know the rank 5 Digital Bug Xyz? It's terrible, but viable for a few formats because it just happens to align the stars.

    • @valutaatoaofunknownelement197
      @valutaatoaofunknownelement197 Před 2 lety

      Which format specifically? I own a copy in real life and always saw it as worthlessly fun.

    • @MBTYuGiOh
      @MBTYuGiOh  Před 2 lety +50

      God the 2016 BA ED was a WASTELAND.

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 Před 2 lety +21

      @@valutaatoaofunknownelement197 BA can make it with giga brilliant and then use its effect to spin enemy dante in the mirror match.

    • @valutaatoaofunknownelement197
      @valutaatoaofunknownelement197 Před 2 lety +5

      @@luminous3558 Nice. In today's game, I run it in a digital bug beetrooper deck on Edopro. Coincidentally, my extra also runs a single giga brilliant an easy R3 when I have nothing better.

    • @Marcusjnmc
      @Marcusjnmc Před 2 lety +2

      Darklords played it with the Terrortop engine at one point '.'

  • @jennahveer
    @jennahveer Před 2 lety +43

    Soul of Purity and Light also used to be played in Herald of Perfection since it was a lv 6 for ritual fodder, and it could adjust your grave for Krystia lol

  • @theblackx9429
    @theblackx9429 Před 2 lety +16

    1:29 MBT: Gem-knight Lapis
    Gem-Knight Lazuli pops up
    *Confused screaming*

  • @xdpartypooper4799
    @xdpartypooper4799 Před 2 lety +51

    Gage should co host since he had these in his channel long ago

  • @theheartbreakcat
    @theheartbreakcat Před 2 lety +88

    The true original Penis card was Thunder Dragon. Running three 5 star bricks just to afford discard costs and get a free light monster in your graveyard for Chaos.

  • @benthetakodachi8445
    @benthetakodachi8445 Před 2 lety +109

    Another funny one was drytron playing steam gyroid with ready fusion as a lvl 6 machine to use with meteonis or to make Beatrice with.

    • @CrashHeelin
      @CrashHeelin Před 2 lety +22

      Yea steam gyro if got banned back in the day for being way ahead of its time with it’s innovative effects

    • @dougla517
      @dougla517 Před 2 lety +4

      @@CrashHeelin I see you too are duelists of culture, having perused the vintage that is the "Ancestry of the Meritless". Good to see.

  • @A.C_B.
    @A.C_B. Před 2 lety +36

    Great Video Idea. I'd definitely up for a part 2 if you find enough material. btw, its seriously impressive that MBT just casually knows exactly what all these cards where used for.

  • @julias01
    @julias01 Před 2 lety +16

    Remember when we all started playing Neo-spacian Aqua Dolphin in Gouki extra Link in 2018? Or X-saber Palomuro in PePe format?

  • @Necroskull388
    @Necroskull388 Před rokem +13

    God, imagine how intimidated you would be if your opponent combos into The Statue of Easter Island. That person is playing the game on a completely different level.

  • @jesse8442
    @jesse8442 Před 2 lety +19

    Luster Dragon, right the fuck now.

    • @alonsoarana5307
      @alonsoarana5307 Před 2 lety

      Could you explain the combo with Luster Dragon?

    • @jesse8442
      @jesse8442 Před 2 lety +11

      @@alonsoarana5307 there's no combo. it's just an out to the wind barrier statue that 60-card piles have started running in conjunction with Unexpected Dai

  • @Mudkip971
    @Mudkip971 Před 2 lety +22

    While this isn't exactly competitive, more of a niche concept.
    Red-Eyes Metal Dragon, while bad, had a very niche yet good use when summoning Lord of the Red. Because of the ritual spell, it can be either used in hand or from the graveyard (after using Red-Eyes Insight) as a ritual cost to summon Lord of the Red, because of the fact that it's a Lv10 Red-Eyes Monster. Unfortunately now that Darkness Metal is back to unlimited, this niche play is basically gone unless you're afraid of banishing all 3 copies.

    • @xCorvus7x
      @xCorvus7x Před rokem +1

      well, as much as it hurts to say: that errata was overdue

  • @Supahnindoh
    @Supahnindoh Před 2 lety +86

    Was suprised not to see Jurrac Aleo on here.
    as a forgettable card from a forgettable bad deck. it quickly became the most expensive dino card shortly after the release of the dinosaur structure deck due to the fact it was the only 1 star dinosaur typer tuner in the whole game.
    Able to be summoned from the deck with but a single Misc, you could go into chanbara to push for game.
    Later you could go into denlong to get a search, and later on still into Halq.

    • @GeneralNickles
      @GeneralNickles Před 2 lety +2

      No one was summoning chanbara in dino.
      That deck, and aeolo in particular, is the whole reason denglong was banned.

    • @Andy_ARBS
      @Andy_ARBS Před 2 lety +5

      The vod had Aeolo and a few more cards, you can check it in the vod if you want.

    • @Supahnindoh
      @Supahnindoh Před 2 lety +3

      @@Andy_ARBS oh thank you! i sure will.

    • @blahmaster6k
      @blahmaster6k Před 2 lety

      @@Andy_ARBS which vod?

    • @necropants9971
      @necropants9971 Před 2 lety +6

      @@GeneralNickles you have no idea how many games chanbara has won me in dino.

  • @ryanchase9332
    @ryanchase9332 Před 2 lety +5

    I have one. Did really well at a regionals with it. Back in Hand Control format (So the oldest of old school), I ran Mefist the Infernal General instead of Airknight Parshath because I viewed stripping the hand was better in a world where we had 1 Delinquent Duo, 1 Confiscation, and 2 Forceful Sentry and everyone played Cyber Jar, Fiber Jar, and often Magician of Faith.

  • @SilverHyozanryu
    @SilverHyozanryu Před 2 lety +52

    Not really a bad card but tellarknights at one point played swords of revealing light because you could keep bouncing it with Triverr.

    • @sekaihunter9378
      @sekaihunter9378 Před 2 lety +8

      Yeah, and in the 2015 World Championship they also played Rigel because it can out Nekroz Unicore. In fact I remember tyat card won a game against Nekroz in the final match to make Tellarknights the World Champion of that year.

  • @sadv3
    @sadv3 Před rokem +4

    I lost it at the sheer psychic damage of dropping "The statue of Easter Island" lol.

  • @EnergyBurst2
    @EnergyBurst2 Před 2 lety +14

    I was not expecting to see my man Tyhone #2! He was one of my very first cards, my very first card above 4 stars, and the boss monster of my very first deck, so I have a very close and fond relationship with Tyhone #2 so seeing him being recognized in this felt amazing! Shout outs to those Hazy Flamers for being such goats for giving my man a purpose.

  • @bolobre4th
    @bolobre4th Před 2 lety +64

    My favorite penis card is Genex Ally Duradark. People teched it in rulers to out Ophion. It was $30 at one time, i sold all of my copies, i had so many it was enough to get a new TV.

    • @drunkennephilim2995
      @drunkennephilim2995 Před 2 lety +8

      Oh god i remember that format, was so funny watching this awful card spike in price

    • @blahmaster6k
      @blahmaster6k Před 2 lety +1

      I still have one...

    • @Teebs1996
      @Teebs1996 Před 2 lety +4

      Although not super meta, Genex Ally Crusher became a center for a control deck that was just it and a pile of good dark cards.

  • @ChaoticMeatballTV
    @ChaoticMeatballTV Před 2 lety +482

    Tyhone #2 out here giving out the 6 star sucks like a communist Yugioh community giving out going second staples.

    • @baldpdeng2035
      @baldpdeng2035 Před 2 lety +4

      Wait wait wait. Is there a communist yugioh community?

    • @Raminator243
      @Raminator243 Před 2 lety +42

      @@baldpdeng2035 I've heard they spend all their time playing blackwing (minimum rarity of course) mirror matches in edison format

    • @alexturner7782
      @alexturner7782 Před 2 lety +12

      @@Raminator243 its just delightful to see someone trying to insult others by assuming how much money they've spent on cardboard

    • @baldpdeng2035
      @baldpdeng2035 Před 2 lety

      @@Raminator243 I suppose then the only legit solution is to seize the means of production of cardboard.
      Count me in this communist thing

    • @DroppedMyMarbles
      @DroppedMyMarbles Před 2 lety +3

      @@baldpdeng2035 you're in it

  • @runningoncylinders3829
    @runningoncylinders3829 Před 2 lety +61

    OMG Aqua Dolphin had the stars align on it in a major way.
    Reverse powercreep got AFD banned. Go like Firewall; save our Signer Dragon.
    Also there's "Garnets", cards that are bad by themselves but necessary for a big card.

    • @Marcusjnmc
      @Marcusjnmc Před 2 lety +3

      aqua dolphin is just a good card , it still sees tournament play in the rogue infernoble deck

    • @runningoncylinders3829
      @runningoncylinders3829 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Marcusjnmc Was it good in the GX days with DAD running around?

    • @Marcusjnmc
      @Marcusjnmc Před 2 lety

      @@runningoncylinders3829 why does that matter ?

    • @runningoncylinders3829
      @runningoncylinders3829 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Marcusjnmc The video this thread is on is all about cards that became good because the stars aligned for them, and they found a deck you could bring to Nats. I don't remember Aqua Dolphin being too incredible till like five years back. Iirc Grand Mole was the only Spacian worth its initial cred.

    • @Marcusjnmc
      @Marcusjnmc Před 2 lety +2

      @@runningoncylinders3829 it's awful cards that are objectively bad that were good one time, dolphin has been good ever since isolde released and a warrior normal summon that ripped ash blossom became relevant, which is an objectively strong interaction, and it's remained about as good for half a decade.

  • @BTBunny
    @BTBunny Před 2 lety +42

    the 0 defense of garnet mattered for some pepe builds playing masked chameleon as well

    • @Harvey1997-
      @Harvey1997- Před 2 lety +3

      Yeeeeeessssss! I played Luster Plush Clownblade with Masked Chameleon and the Brilliant engine, and although the typical play was to Pendulum summon Chameleon, the effect was game-determinative at times with Garnet.

  • @Nocturne989
    @Nocturne989 Před 2 lety +14

    I also remember the odd Shaddoll deck that was running like all DARKs and a single copy of Outstanding Dog Marron.

    • @ogeid772
      @ogeid772 Před 2 lety +8

      Pre Trick Clown Shaddolls were something else

    • @TromboneMaster95
      @TromboneMaster95 Před 2 lety +7

      I remember those days lmao, OG shaddoll was a different breed. People would just put in cards that they liked or thought would be occasionally good. I remember seeing a light of Lightsworn Shaddolls, since the lightsworn milling shaddolls gave you effects and the shaddoll fusion could send wulf/felis for its effect. It was so bad, but when the pieces lined up it looked borderline competent.

    • @Nocturne989
      @Nocturne989 Před 2 lety +2

      @@TromboneMaster95 I swear it's like folks forget all the good light monsters we already ran. My first build of Shaddolls back in the day used Collapserpent Wyverburster and Eclipse Wyvern.

    • @drunkennephilim2995
      @drunkennephilim2995 Před 2 lety +1

      I remember playing 1 Lightsworn wulf, 2 Dawn knight. Dawn knight to recycle the wulf by making it CL2 after Squamata or Hedgehog and if i drew it i'd summon it to send the wulf or make a rank 4 with the wulf i sent off of shaddoll fusion

    • @Nocturne989
      @Nocturne989 Před 2 lety +3

      We were on some copium with some of these early Shaddoll builds lol glad I'm not the only one.

  • @J43Pr0t0
    @J43Pr0t0 Před 2 lety +7

    Funniest shit was using magical hats in metalfoes. Being able to turn your spell/traps into metalfoes normal monsters and fuse them off was hilarious

  • @ryanmcconnell7410
    @ryanmcconnell7410 Před 2 lety +8

    idlee - the 9 star knightmare shit show effect monster, was run in Dino Chalice lists for a bit as a target for world legacy monstrosity, needing something that didn't conflict with your Fire true king - paired along side with
    Get ready
    Super anti-kaiju machine mecha thunder king for its monster reborn effect

  • @necropants9971
    @necropants9971 Před 2 lety +18

    Tyhone also used to see play in heiratic rulers being both a level 6 dragon and a fire for blaster

    • @ErroneousNickname
      @ErroneousNickname Před 2 lety +2

      that was exactly why it was played in Hazy cause you would use 3 convocation 3 Tefnuit as a free body for tribute summons

  • @BorkBigFrighten2
    @BorkBigFrighten2 Před 2 lety +15

    Surprised at the lack of mention of Trigon. A Fire Dragon to search off of Blaster that was also a Debris target.
    Book of Eclipse, back in the infancy of modern Yugioh where boards were starting to get bigger but we didn't have many good going 2nd cards.
    Mystical Refpanel. Jesus christ I still have nightmares of the rulings of this card.
    Shoutout to Triangle Ecstasy Spark for the fucked ruling of this card at an event (I forget which event).
    Edit: I just remembered the infancy of post-banlist Dracopals. That entire deck was *FULL* of penis cards.
    Edit 2: Holy shit, remember when Junk & Debris played Neo-Spacian Glow Moss?
    Edit 3: IRON CHAIN DRAGON. I get PTSD attacks from milling my opponent's Mali's/Plagues with Iron Chain Dragon. It would have been SO much better if the level 6 Debris Synchro was literally just a vanilla.

    • @shipu302
      @shipu302 Před 2 lety +1

      Some people did mention Trigon. It just wasn't included in the video.

    • @joanaguayoplanell4912
      @joanaguayoplanell4912 Před rokem +1

      Book of Eclipse aged pretty well, NGL.

    • @BorkBigFrighten2
      @BorkBigFrighten2 Před rokem

      @Joan Aguayo Planell Eh, it's okay.
      This comment was made far before Kashira's bullshittery, and at this point, it's really just there since a huge amount of other hate cards don't do much against the deck.

  • @four-en-tee
    @four-en-tee Před 2 lety +5

    I choked on my drink when you brought up The Statue of Easter Island. Are you trying to kill me?
    Other than that, this was a pretty cool history lesson in very specific tech cards. Personally, i'm playing 2 Breaker the Magic Warrior in my Impcantation deck since it gets over Secret Village. Thats, like, the one card thats the bane of my existence.

  • @defectivesickle5643
    @defectivesickle5643 Před 2 lety +6

    Damn, not a single mention of Smoke Grenade

  • @reaflor91
    @reaflor91 Před rokem +2

    Coming back to mention that in POTE Format, Branded Tearelement is teching in D3S Frog as a target for Branded In High Spirits, because it matches the statline required for cost, and is an Aqua which is used for some of the Tear Fusions.

  • @nemesis-t3ddi
    @nemesis-t3ddi Před 2 lety +8

    I remember the days of every single deck jamming Photon Thrasher as an extender for rank 4 strategies searchable off of ROTA.

    • @royteets2421
      @royteets2421 Před 2 lety +3

      Photon thrasher use to be a decent card tho. He's talking about cards that where never good at all.

  • @moh.syafrianabie8899
    @moh.syafrianabie8899 Před 2 lety +8

    I never knew cards like Penis-Cimo (Pianissimo) exist. Welp times to put it on my deck for the upcoming common charity master duel events.

    • @ShinerCCC
      @ShinerCCC Před 2 lety +1

      2 card combo with Machine Duplication? In b4 buyout

  • @Gigacorn
    @Gigacorn Před 2 lety +14

    There was a recent OCG instructor deck that uses Magical Hats in Unchained as a way to pop backrow on the opponent's turn, in conjunction with Z-ONE as a way to make their continuous spell actually viable. I haven't stopped thinking about it ever since they posted it.

    • @akion388
      @akion388 Před 2 lety +2

      OCG decks be wildin

  • @lamiaprincess6371
    @lamiaprincess6371 Před 2 lety +2

    Have we talked about the absolute penis cards people played in order to out Evilswarm Ophion? I remember Genex Ally Duradark being the big one, but if I remember correctly Prophecy decks were also playing Injection Fairy Lily since it was a Spellcaster (lmao) that could on its own pump itself over Ophion and kill it.

    • @lamiaprincess6371
      @lamiaprincess6371 Před 2 lety

      Not only was I right the deck that won the incredibly prestigious Australian WCQ ran it. Fucking hell.

  • @Straven93
    @Straven93 Před 2 lety +2

    I think in the same vein as dark witch the ocg was experimenting with metaphys armed dragon. Because it was a light, 2800 atk/1000 def normal monster that could be added back off of lazuli and used to meet the requirements for tenacity

  • @CopyCat1995
    @CopyCat1995 Před 2 lety +4

    Another example of a card similar to Pianissimo during the Zoodiac format was My body as a shield. i remember seeing full playsets of that card being ran at my locals to counter not only Drident but also other types of destruction effects that were popular at the time.

    • @joanaguayoplanell4912
      @joanaguayoplanell4912 Před rokem +1

      Well, that one was a staple during most of the GX era, so it doesn't really count.

  • @nicholascantisano3366
    @nicholascantisano3366 Před 2 lety +12

    Some Penis cards I recall: naturia rosewhip when striker came to tcg (super hyped), photon cerberus to deal with paleo during ABC/MF/Paleo

  • @CoMcDougal
    @CoMcDougal Před 2 lety +4

    Yeah people were kinda desperate for anything back in Nekroz format. I also remember Medallion of the Ice Barrier seeing play because it was essentially a reverse Uno card whenever the opponent activated the effect of Nekroz of Trishula.

    • @necropants9971
      @necropants9971 Před 2 lety

      @S V yes, if they had gung in hand they were destruction immune and if they had Trish they were targeting immune

    • @CoMcDougal
      @CoMcDougal Před 2 lety

      @S V the mirror was really fun but yeah playing against Nekroz with a non-Qliphort deck really sucked, especially pre-Djinn ban

  • @BoukenRiser1221
    @BoukenRiser1221 Před 2 lety +9

    Non Aggression Area is in Master Duel, BABY!!!!!!! Gotta love that old school busted tech

    • @CriAleMar
      @CriAleMar Před 2 lety

      Finally a tech against Scrap Crystons

  • @guntherkoslovski2934
    @guntherkoslovski2934 Před 2 lety +5

    Does anyone remember chivalry being sided in early kozmo format? That was really wild :D

  • @yurei3714
    @yurei3714 Před 2 lety +12

    Dark witch just looks so done with the magic business

    • @jacobwoodman4488
      @jacobwoodman4488 Před 2 lety +4

      She may be more annoyed that she cannot cast any magic, and so has to resort to using a spear

  • @Dragon62139
    @Dragon62139 Před 2 lety +7

    I remember pushing pianissimo into everything during zoo format, it was cheaper than my body and a shield.

    • @Harvey1997-
      @Harvey1997- Před 2 lety +1

      There were also arguments that it was better, since it protected for the rest of the turn instead of just once. It was insane if they dropped Raigeki or similar before summoning their Zoo. It also didn't destroy their card, so it was less good AGAINST Drident. Well, except for that they couldn't My Body your My Body... That format was so much fun and the tech choices were crazy.

  • @TrueCyprien
    @TrueCyprien Před 2 lety +3

    I still remember people running X-Saber Palomuro in PePe/Magician decks because it was a level 1 earth tuner for Naturia Beast that was searchable with King of the Feral Imps.

  • @luminous3558
    @luminous3558 Před 2 lety +29

    Now do cards that were widely used but have secondary effects that nobody knows. Like Black Rose banishing plants to reduce atk or SKDSV getting piercing upon copying effects.

    • @ecreiP
      @ecreiP Před 2 lety +2

      SKDSV giving monsters piercing has won me more than one game in MD against Crooked Cook.

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ecreiP yeah but the first time I saw it happen I read like 4 cards before I found out where the piercing came from.
      Utterly bizarre but quite welcome.

    • @stupiddog321
      @stupiddog321 Před 2 lety +1

      what the hell is SKDSV?

    • @Pythonomorpha_
      @Pythonomorpha_ Před 2 lety +2

      @@stupiddog321 Supreme King Dragon Starving Venom

    • @Chymistry
      @Chymistry Před 2 lety

      stratos effect to destroy spell and trap cards. Macro cosmos to summon heliod from deck

  • @StigmaKRL
    @StigmaKRL Před 2 lety +4

    i still remember Trifortressops being teched in DRuler format

  • @pableitor2009
    @pableitor2009 Před 2 lety +4

    Back when rota was not limited, I played Spell striker in any deck that needed an extra body/lv3 on field. It also had the funny thing of hitting directly for game. Good times

  • @RichardSavageMx
    @RichardSavageMx Před 2 lety +2

    You NEED to make this a series. This is too funny to only be one video dedicated to this topic

  • @Droanux
    @Droanux Před 2 lety +11

    Back in pepe format I refused to shell out for pepe so I played this sky scourge norleras turbo build I found online. You played mostly ba to mill and fill grave with dark fiends, small fluffal engine of bear wings and vendor for draws and wings being a light fairy, monster reincarnation incase you milled norleras or phantom of chaos, and lightsworn charge and shire, lightsworn spirit, a level 3 fairy. Just a penis pile.

    • @ShinerCCC
      @ShinerCCC Před 2 lety +5

      My friend playing Kozmo got savaged at regionals by a BA player that used Doomdog Octhros to search Norleras

    • @OyVeey
      @OyVeey Před 2 lety +1

      I'm not sure it's possible for a fucking Norleras turbo deck to not be an absolute mess

  • @MajesticStarDuelist
    @MajesticStarDuelist Před 2 lety +5

    Suprised there weren't any weird rescue cat targets like Samnite and Airbellum that just fit the level 3 beast factor and nothing else. Speaking of cats, I remember cat's ear tribe coming up when fire formation tenki was the hot new shit because you can beat over anything with it.

    • @TromboneMaster95
      @TromboneMaster95 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah I remember the cats ear tribe thing, my friend would play it. I don't think it ever saw competitive success because it was just too bad, but it was still really funny.

    • @ManyTanks1
      @ManyTanks1 Před 2 lety +2

      Airbellum was a tuner that ripped cards out of your opponents hand on top of being a decent sized body in its own right. Wouldn’t exactly call it penis quality. Samnite was a searcher for glads so not all that penis quality either. You wouldn’t run the two in the same deck. I’ll give you cat’s ear tribe though that shit is lookin like straight up dick for fire fist format.

    • @MajesticStarDuelist
      @MajesticStarDuelist Před 2 lety +1

      I think cat's ear tribe was an out to towers but I don't remember what decks were playing tenki then.

    • @sallas09
      @sallas09 Před 2 lety

      For playing Goat/Reaper Format, I love using 3-Hump Lacooda and Wicked Worm Beast as Rescue Cat targets. The copium play is to go Cat -> 2 Lacoodas, Last Will to summon 2nd Cat -> last Lacooda and Worm Beast. Tribute 2 Lacoodas to draw 3, and during End Phase you get the Worm Beast back in your hand before it dies to Cat’s effect.

  • @anthonybehner7449
    @anthonybehner7449 Před 2 lety +2

    Magical hats were also used with Geartown to get free ancient gear dragons to the field as well.

  • @258thHiGuy
    @258thHiGuy Před 2 lety +5

    I remember my first ever set of yugioh cards that I only cracked open and really looked at in like 2009 (the actual cards were from like 2004 or something) had the statue of easter island in it. Also had three monster reborns for some reason

  • @cheshirewise942
    @cheshirewise942 Před 2 lety +8

    Dark Magician = Dark
    Dark Witch = Light Fairy for some reason...

    • @AllHailToTypeSun
      @AllHailToTypeSun Před 2 lety +4

      It's original name was Valkyrie, why they translated that as Dark Witch? Idk

    • @DeviousHands
      @DeviousHands Před 2 lety +2

      imagine this random ass 5 star normal monster enabling mischief of the time goddess, that's why

  • @StarfieldDisarray
    @StarfieldDisarray Před 2 lety +1

    Crazy Box was ran solely to be an easy Eradicator Epidemic Virus target in the r4 toolbox. If you were a chad, you'd use its effect first.
    Machina Gadgets ran Meklord Emperor Wisel (in the side deck) to beat Fire Fists.

  • @DGKun
    @DGKun Před 2 lety +3

    You just did my boy Kaminari Attack wrong by forgetting about him

  • @scrubian5425
    @scrubian5425 Před 2 lety +11

    I’m a fan of random “engines” that saw play for like a single point in time and never again.
    Stuff like symphonic warrior engine in some grass decks in 2018 or the empowered warrior engine that was mega copium around 2016ish.

    • @Marcusjnmc
      @Marcusjnmc Před 2 lety +1

      symphonic warrior got played in a bunch of decks, it's a machine pendulum that gives you 2 normal summons in the link era , had at minimum regional play with abc, dinomist, majespecters & metalfoes + inevitably others

    • @frankwest5388
      @frankwest5388 Před 2 lety

      @@Marcusjnmc that and a lvl 5 machine for Infinity or synchro plays.
      Not really a penis card, since it is really good in most circumstances.
      Almost like the predaplant engine

  • @BenazetG
    @BenazetG Před 2 lety +1

    Shoutout to Multi-Piece Golem and Big Piece Golem for allowing to setup Dark Gaia plays via Prisma.

  • @aprinnyonbreak1290
    @aprinnyonbreak1290 Před 2 lety +4

    Dark Witch was one of the best monsters in Falsebound Kingdom. Fast, ridiculous attack growth, Spirit type, ect.

  • @CobaltSanderson
    @CobaltSanderson Před 2 lety +5

    I would love to see a proper video series that goes in depth for all these kinds of cards.
    Tells us WHY Tyhone 2 was both hilarious and correct for Hazy Flames

    • @ErroneousNickname
      @ErroneousNickname Před 2 lety

      oh I can answer that!
      Hazy Flame played heiratic convocation and tefnuit as a free body to tribute going second, so it would give you a level 6 fire monster for the basiltrice, as well as whatever you'd get off the sphynx/peryton

    • @CobaltSanderson
      @CobaltSanderson Před 2 lety

      @@ErroneousNickname I know, I was the one on Twitter to post Tyhone 2. I just think the explanation would have improved the video.

  • @novaninja729
    @novaninja729 Před 2 lety +3

    Galaxy Serpent was played in Dragon Link with the Draconnet engine as a way to get full guardragon combo and Ib the World Chalice Justiciar back in 2019. It also had a very advantageous attribute for Collapserpent specifically

  • @_Prismadoll
    @_Prismadoll Před 2 lety +2

    Surprised nobody mentioned X-Saber Palomuro; played for the specific, lone purpose of "He was a level 1 EARTH Reptile Tuner". You'd search for and summon Palomuro with King Of The Feral Imps, summon Hat Tricker (or some other EARTH, he was just easiest), then make Naturia Beast on your opening turn
    m e m e s

  • @sethmp333
    @sethmp333 Před 2 lety +1

    The “when the fuck are you gonna do that” to the possessed familiar effect had me dying 😂

  • @GeneralNickles
    @GeneralNickles Před 2 lety +1

    My favorite was when I was one misplay from topping a regional with hieratics playing dragonic tactics.
    Tribute 2 dragons to summon a level 8 dragon from the deck.
    So you special 2 hieratics for free (going 2nd), then use tactics to tribute both and summon a blue-eyes from the deck, and trigger both hieratic effects to get 2 more dragon normals. Usually 2 labradorites. Then proceed to combo off from there, ending in a rank 8 and 2 rank 6s.

  • @Sleepy0173
    @Sleepy0173 Před 2 lety +1

    Then after some time, Kabalsaurus became better than Saversaurus because Bahamut Shark and Toadally Awesome became a thing, so the WATER attribute became more significant than the 200 extra ATK, and when the 2000 ATK WATER vanilla dinosaur came out, it was Saversaurus that got the boot in favor of all WATER so you could always choose between Dolkka/Laggia/Bahamut.

    • @joanaguayoplanell4912
      @joanaguayoplanell4912 Před rokem +1

      And funnily enough, now Sabersaurus will become a penis card, since it's technically the best normal Dino you can play with the Transcendrake fusion, because it's Earth and thus a target for Lithosagym in a pinch.

  • @covereye5731
    @covereye5731 Před 2 lety +2

    I think Soul of Purity and Light used to be great in general, just a nice extra bonus for light themed decks to throw down or for the high level synchrons.

  • @nathankeel6667
    @nathankeel6667 Před 2 lety +8

    Their is also jurrac aolo it was a lv 1 dino tuner for miscell for denglong or later on ib was like 4$ for a garbo lv 1 effect monster tuner thats only effect was to git rid of it self to summon another garbage monster because it never got reprinted

    • @ShurMaster
      @ShurMaster Před 2 lety

      $4? I bought mine for nearly $20!

  • @ShikanRaider
    @ShikanRaider Před 2 lety +3

    I remember back in the day running Magical Hats in Harpies just to get Hysteric Sign to the graveyard. You also ran cards like Breakthrough Skill and Skill Prisoner along with it, just so you have other stuff that does something in the grave.

    • @ShadowBaofu
      @ShadowBaofu Před 2 lety +1

      I remember running Grisaille Prison in Gem Knights which was a trap that locked both players out of Synchro/Xyz summons until your next turn if you controlled a tribute, ritual or fusion summoned monster. Swords at Dawn in Noble Knights and most of all Sanguine Swamp in Lightsworns from an old JP list

    • @drunkennephilim2995
      @drunkennephilim2995 Před 2 lety

      That was truly the dark ages for Harpie decks

  • @zobirismage2813
    @zobirismage2813 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I played Giga Gagagigo in my MD Umi Control deck because it was a summon I could get off of fish sonar. It's also the best target for Sea Stealth Attack so I could keep the floodgate/negate live after a harpie's feather duster

  • @frankunodostres473
    @frankunodostres473 Před 2 lety +15

    lmao when you ask a simple question on twitter and it accidentally becomes a ygo history lesson 100 times better than all those vids megacapG has ever done

  • @politenonparticipant4859
    @politenonparticipant4859 Před 2 lety +4

    Unironically, Dark Witch is one of my favorite Yu-Gi-Oh cards.

  • @hopalongjens
    @hopalongjens Před 2 lety +1

    I loved that month we side decked neo spacian dolphin while trying to figure out how to deal with full power Drytron.

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 Před 2 lety +2

    Great analysis video! I always love seeing bad cards put to good use in such innovative ways like this! Looking forward to more content like this! Thanks for uploading!

  • @jakecardwell74
    @jakecardwell74 Před 2 lety +1

    Garnet was the gem-knight of choice because he had 0 def and thus was a target for Masked Chameleon

  • @Steele47
    @Steele47 Před 2 lety +5

    No smoke grenade of the thief?
    Ok

    • @astercat49
      @astercat49 Před 2 lety +3

      I wouldn't say Smoke Grenade is a bad card. It's broken in Infernoble Knights, meanwhile most of the cards in this video only saw play due to extremely niche cases and a lack of better cards.

    • @Steele47
      @Steele47 Před 2 lety +1

      It's a niche card for infernoble and dragon link
      It doesn't mix on any deck, rather becomes a hindrance

    • @quado7681
      @quado7681 Před 2 lety

      I mean it also had its moment in 2005 with Gearfried

  • @XerxesTheUndead
    @XerxesTheUndead Před rokem

    In my Umi Control deck I main decked Giant Turtle Who Feeds On Flames since it’s a Level 5 Normal Aqua monster and can be used in Rank 4/5 Xyz summons depending on if Umi is on the field and can be added back to your hand if you activate Salvage since it has 1400 ATK

  • @WillRennar
    @WillRennar Před 2 lety

    A PC I was running for a while in the wake of the Demise Doom Dozer OTK was Mechanicalchaser, a vanilla Lv 4 DARK Normal Machine with 1850 ATK. I was running a Machine/Chaos variant of the deck, with X-Head Cannon and Mechanicalchaser serving as the new Advanced Ritual Art fodder. Theoretically, I could drop Demise and BLS Envoy in the same turn and lay down some serious hurt.
    Key word there: "Theoretically." In practice at the following SJC, the deck...well, it flopped harder than Crystal Pepsi.

  • @danydady6851
    @danydady6851 Před 2 lety +1

    In master duel, I run the illusory gentleman because he is summonable by unexpected Dai, ebon illusion magician, and magician's navigation, he can be tributed for illusion magic, he can fuse into the dark magicians, and he can link into imduk (who can be fused into dark magician the dragon knight).

  • @metleon
    @metleon Před 2 lety +1

    Back when brother and I just had the starter decks, Anatsu was one of my best cards because nothing in the Kaiba deck could stop it without a tribute.

  • @enricob15
    @enricob15 Před 2 lety

    Hi, I'm Italian and the pianissimo pronounce was almost perfect! Great video, love the effects and the voice

  • @Brawler_1337
    @Brawler_1337 Před 8 měsíci

    I got one: I played an Xyz based X-Saber deck after the release of Constellar Ptolemy M7, and I had a few penis cards in there. First was X-Saber Anu Piranha as a Rescue Rabbit target. The upshot to her was that you could use her to make Barkion, Excalibur, and Blade Armor Ninja, unlike Boggart Knight. The second penis card was Clock Resonator, which I used in place of the freshly banned Sangan as a Tour Guide target. (Tour Guide was there to make Invoker.) The main reason was that it’s EARTH, which facilitates Grandsoil. It’s also a Tuner, so it could theoretically be used to make Gottoms or something, but I didn’t use it for that.

  • @ShadowBaofu
    @ShadowBaofu Před 2 lety

    I was going through some decks I made years ago in Tag Force Special and found this hilarious Mecha Phantom Beast build I netted somewhere that tried to turbo out Concoruda with a bunch of tokens so you could pop your opponent's stuff using Token Sundae; Concoruda protects your tokens from being destroyed so you got free pops all day.

  • @dailyrift5334
    @dailyrift5334 Před 2 lety

    4:35 literally ordered the first playset i found after hearing "oh this is cracked in labrynth isn't it"

  • @hawkticus_history_corner
    @hawkticus_history_corner Před 2 lety +1

    Little Chimera for Rescue Cat variant Baseball Cat. It's hilarious

  • @silent7159
    @silent7159 Před 2 lety +13

    Neo Spacian Aqua Dolphin becoming a staple because Gouki players decided handlooping you for 4 wasn't enough

    • @Andy_ARBS
      @Andy_ARBS Před 2 lety +3

      Nah, Aqua dolphin was hand trap insurance. It hand loops but it specifically hand loops interruption, which is way better.

    • @silent7159
      @silent7159 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Andy_ARBS it hand looped cards that could stop handloops.

  • @apiellis7679
    @apiellis7679 Před 2 lety +1

    Still have to make that metalfoes spell fusion magical hats ancient gear combo deck. I'll get around to it someday.

  • @montywh
    @montywh Před 2 lety

    in watching burn decks on Master Duel videos, i seem to remember an old trap that could come in handy. particularly for Nurseburn or Banquet/D.D. Dynamite decks, but only if you win the coin toss and go first. Barrel Behind the Door, which i think is a normal trap. which simply states if you're about to take effect damage (most commonly at the time with Magic Cylinder), your opponent takes the damage instead

    • @vergilthewolf3619
      @vergilthewolf3619 Před 2 lety

      This sounds like something gren manju decks would run to get over the cylinder.

  • @NyaaPaw44
    @NyaaPaw44 Před 2 lety +3

    Oh yeah.
    I used tonplay Tyhoone because i used Hazy flame with a Heraldric Dragons Engine.
    Tefnuit and the other dragon.
    While maintaining the Hazy core.
    Really cool.
    Not competitive enough, but Fun to play.

    • @andreaderrico2969
      @andreaderrico2969 Před 2 lety +1

      Now I want the decklist😭

    • @NyaaPaw44
      @NyaaPaw44 Před 2 lety +1

      @@andreaderrico2969
      Well...
      I updated it a little, its something like this.
      Tyhoone #2 x3
      Hieratic Dragon of tefnuit x3
      Hieratic Dragon Of Eset x1
      Hieratic seal of Convocation x3
      Celestial Observatory x 3
      Goka The pyre of Malice x2
      Mausoleum of the emperor x3
      Flamvell Counter x3
      Rekindling x 1
      Monarch stormforth x1
      True king Agnimazud the Vanisher x2
      Monster reborn x1
      Pot of Avarice x1
      Hazy flame:
      Peryton x2
      Sphinx x2
      Cerberus x3
      Gryphon x2
      Hydra x1
      Pillar x 3
      Glory x2
      XYZ Tribalrivals x2
      -----
      Hazyflame Bacilistrice x2
      Hieratic Dragon king of Atum x1
      Constellar Ptolemy M7 x1
      Photon Strike Bounzer x1
      Number 6: Chronomally Atlándis x1
      Number 25: Force Focus x1
      Gauntlet Launcher x 1
      Gaia dragon the Thunder charger x1
      Number c5:Chaos Chimera Dragon x1
      Number 21:Frozen Lady justice x1
      Hita the fire charmer Ablaze x1
      Dolittle chimera x1
      Knightmare phoenix x1
      Linkuriboh x1
      Side deck
      Hieratic Dragon of Su x3
      Spirit of flames x 2
      Fenghuang x2 ( i used to Main deck this card because BACKROW, but its in consideration to Add or remove accordingly.)
      Removal stuff
      Monarch stuff
      Its not competitive.
      Its TRASH TIERS
      PROBABLY NOT EVEN TABLE 500.
      But this deck used to be fun to play, this lidt i just added Link stuff tl get on with the times and Banlist tl keep the core idea.
      Its SUPER SLOW nowdays.
      There may be a way to make it faster.
      But this is for the most part how i used to play it.
      Added the true king Agnimazud.
      LINKS and Stuff.
      Some Xyzs that were not avaioable back then.
      Feel free to use better options if you got any ideas.
      My deckbuilding skills are far beyond Rusty.
      Mostly because i used stuff i had, and this list is an Amalgamation of things i could THINK of with help of MASTERDUEL, while still using my IRL deck as The base.
      Playing with the Hieratic stuff as tribute fodder always netted the Tyhoone.
      I used to only run 2 of the celestial observatory cause i only had 2...
      Some Monarch card are Super helpful.
      But the deck CAN be bricky enough, so...only storforth helps
      The deck gets like 6 cyber Dragons...and its still not enough xD.
      So i wont be claiming this is ALWAYS FUN.
      I had fun playing it because i played it against friends who played Rougue too.
      Id say one of the Powerhouses of the deck is the fact that Overlay Mats are not a problem, so Xyz tribalrivals is An amazing card here.
      Anyways.
      If you need some explaining.
      I can do a breakdown on it.
      Its my list.
      It may not be a Very good one... But its Mine.

    • @andreaderrico2969
      @andreaderrico2969 Před 2 lety

      @@NyaaPaw44 thanks bruh, I will try this on edopro👍🏻😉

  • @phoenixvance6642
    @phoenixvance6642 Před 9 měsíci

    I used poison draw frog in metalfoes once. Just an upstart goblin if you are able to pendulum summon it haha

  • @icefiredragon94
    @icefiredragon94 Před 2 lety

    It was a lot of fun seeing the penis cards throughout card history. I knew mainly the ones here before 2019 format so that was fun. Stars aligned for my favorite neo-spacian: aqua dolphin which i still have my 3 OG copies of. as of old penis cards that haven't been mentioned, in late middle school i've had people unironically fuse into Sanwitch to get the plusses off their materials. It was sound back then since the extra body you got was somewhat useful for damage. I remembered dying to it a lot back then.