The Batman In Review - Every Batman Movie Ranked & Recapped
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This episode of Kinda Funny's Batman In Review we rank, review, and recap the 2022 film The Batman directed by Matt Reeves and starring Robert Pattinson, Zoe Kravitz, Paul Dano, and Andy Serkis.
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My first thought was “why is this so long” and then like a war flashback. I heard the rockin Robin theme in my head. And I knew what was to come
Nick hates that Batman uses doors. He wants a skylight entrance every time he enters any kind of room.
It would be nice that he didn't just walk into places, especially since he looks ridiculous in the light sometimes. Looks like a cosplayer. So it would be nice if he just arrived in the room he needed to be and you have no idea how he got there.
@@lexis4490 dude it's a 30 year old man in a BAT COSTUME. You have to suspend disbelief
@@lexis4490 this Batman consistently looked goofy in the suit to me… especially with that cowl.
I think he just looks like a guy that is by himself walking into dangerous areas with armor on to protect him
It would be hilarious if every scene had Batman entering by crashing through glass.
Batman enters through a door
Nick: It breaks the realism for me
I think the problem is that Nick is seeing the ending as Batman immediately becoming a symbol of hope in the span of time it takes him to help those people, when instead it's his first step of many to change his image.
Good ass point
I disagree with Nick. The city was so corrupt so even though it seemed like Batman was helping, he could because Falcone ran things. Now he's giving hope, that even though things are bad. That they can rebuild it better.
For the very first time, I completely agree with Kev on a movie.
I'm right there with you. I'm almost always on the opposite side of the aisle of him but, this time I was sitting right next to him!
For what it’s worth “he lies still” and those other answers are fairly common riddles
It was funny when Tim said "Why was it that specific word? It could have been lies forever." But... it can't, because that doesn't fit the riddle with "still" having the double meaning...
@@aussiemuser03 Yep, double meaning - plus if Im remembering right, I think the card literally displayed how many letters were in the answer. Like two dashes, four dashes, then five dashes. So the last word had to be five letters. Which narrows the options quite a bit too. “He lies forever” or “He lies always” wouldn’t have fit, for example.
How Gregg gives Uncharted and Batman the same score is insane to me.
This was a weird In Review, i got the feeling Nick, Tim and Greg didn’t even like it that much, they mainly focused on nitpicks and negatives .
@@gpauldejesus i swear they were higher on rise of skywalker than this lol
@@gpauldejesus To be honest i feel the same way after i watch it it was a good Batman movie but not amazing or masterpiece that people make it out to be the movie was too damn long plus the ending was pretty weak and the Batman and Bruce wayne persona is pretty much not distinguishable
@@PVNTHR YEP.
@@PVNTHR mcu has like 25 films. They have more great movies than DCeu has movies
Paramedic here…car rollovers aren’t nearly as dangerous as a lot of people think they are, I’ve been to many where the people crawl out of their vehicles with very little damage. It’s kind of off putting the first couple times.
I gotta ask why you are always showing up when people are rolling their cars... 🤔
@@kyledurbin603 Because he's a paramedic...
@@PurpleTreeFrogSmile This really got me. 😂
I got hit by a dump truck doing 60 and all it did was scratch my Hyundai lol this is some tough plastic they make cars with nowadays
I would love a sequel, Court of Owls would be a perfect fit in this world. One of my favorite moments is the reveal of the Batmobile. The genuine terror it inspired was incredible. Also the Batman introduction might be one of my favorite Batman moments I've seen on screen. "They think I'm in the shadows, I am the shadows"
Court of Owls would be sick - I'm kinda sad that they hinted at Joker being the villain for the 2nd film (again). Court of Owls would be a MUCH better fit for this Gotham.
@@joshuavelo4265 I'm okay with the Court not being the sequel, in the story it's Batman at the top of his game and he knows everything about Gotham which makes it such a shock that the Owls even existed. So I'd personally like to see the Court later in his career. Also the director has expressed interest in Mr. Freeze for the sequel so that would also be cool
@@Icepick614 I feel like the Court wouldn't make sense next now that Gotham is trashed (for now). I think you're right that it would make more sense in the 3rd movie when he's later in his career
This movie should have been riddler and court of owls. I kept expecting the ominous "you have no idea how deep the darkness goes" shit to culminate in a court of owls tease for the next movie. Riddler snapped after he discovered their existence and is trying to lead batman in their direction with the clues. Almost lovecraftian.
The moment the batmobiles introduced was awesome. Idk if the sound was just perfect in my theater or what, but I could feel the rumble of it in my chest. It was amazing
The part where Bruce is down after taking the buckshot and he injects himself with adrenaline is so badass
I thought it was venom. It had a greenish yellow color.
Injects himself with “venom” is what I saw
@@NwrksBigBoss oh shit my b didn’t see your response yeah It was green. They definitely meant it as some sort of proto venom. Type thing
@@jareddumke5300 Crazy did it say venom like the stuff Bane uses?
@@DanielMendoza-qq5pv no it was really fast it was just a green/yellow fluid that gave him a jolt of energy strength and seemingly made him lose control a bit. Though the scenario he used it. It would have made sense for him to lose control regardless
Personally, The Batman is my favorite Batman movie, tells a really solid emotional story about Batman in a Gotham that is exactly what I tonally want from it, it's not just Chicago again but an almagation of different cities throughout the world that create a grimy, dirty city that's stalked by a grimy, dirty Batman played wonderfully by Pattinson who is no doubt my favorite actor to play a character that I've been familiar with since as early as I can remember. Didn't expect how much there would be of Catwoman and Falcone but was just as invested in their sub plot that adds to the seediness of Gotham. The depths of corruption in places not expected by Bruce is something I also really appreciated, directly criticizing his status as a high class figure in Gotham while along the way making him question how he should be perceived as Batman, a revelation that comes to him in a scene that's honestly one of favorite Batman scenes in any medium, where Bruce transforms from a angel of vengeance to a selfless hero, being that one light in the dark, that one person to reach out to a boy burdened by sadness, a boy that he thought died inside himself, but through rescuing the former Mayor's son, rescues the shreds of humanity that were in Bruce Wayne before Crime Alley. Truly loved this film.
I completely agree with everything you said here. Well said 👏👏👏
i was disappointed
@@boochtron What an insightful argument.
It’s excellent- and after having watched it three times (saw the first time on the opening weekend, and twice after that on HBO Max), I can objectively say that this is now my favorite live action Batman movie… and yes, before everybody starts throwing it out there, that does include the Dark Knight (which is good, don’t get me wrong, but I think Batman Begins was better). Gotham City has been one of my biggest issues with more recent live action Batman movies; I think the Burton movies did an awesome job with Gotham City itself, Batman Begins did a great job as well, but then for some bizarre reason, the Dark Knight and the Dark Knight Rises ditched that for a generic big city, to which, Chicago is a good example.
I just came here to say the reason the Answer to the riddle is “They Lie Still” and why Batman knew it was that phrase specifically was because the cipher key Riddler left on the card was 12 letters long.
The the fact that "still" means without movement AND even now. Where "forever", doesn't work..
KF: "An almost 3 hours movie is too long, some of this could have been cut"
Also KF: "Here's a 3 hour podcast on that movie"
Never change 😂
Equivalent exchange
This 3 hours was better paced and not as deliberately slow lol
You guys should do an "In Review" like this except that everybody's at the wrong house.
That would be great
batman actually Rev the batcar that long so he could get penguin's attention so that catwoman has time to escape,
the freakin sound of the batcar is so fucking cooooool
I think Batman being around cops and knocking on Mobster doors is a deliberate choice, this is an early boots on the ground Batman, he’s not the mythic figure yet to the Mob or the Cops, by the end of the movie he starts becoming that. The Penguin is gonna be the man in charge now and he knows how big of a problem Batman is, Gordon is sure to be the new commissioner and he knows how good Batman is, thats how you start building up a legend. Plus Batman himself is still learning, im sure in the future we’ll see him act more like a ninja and less like this relentless bruiser.
Tim, the "Lies Still" riddle is "Lies Still" because it's referring to the fact that when you die you no longer move. Lying still. As in lying and no longer moving. "When a liar dies he lies still."
It can also refer to the liar continues to lie even after death if the truth wasn’t told before meeting their fate.
@@jdagz Its both, its supposed to be a pun, like riddles often are.
But Tim’s point is that for example “he lies” could also be a valid answer
@@Mankysausage Tim's point is wrong then, because that wouldn't be a valid answer. The point of the riddle is that it's a play on words. "He lies still" means both hat he lies motionless and that he continues to lie.
@@jasons4453 yes we get it but the “still” part doesn’t necessarily have to be the answer and it’s weird that the characters jump straight to that. “He lies” by itself is a perfectly valid answer to the riddle
New suit was amazing. The cowl is so captivating and works considering how much silent acting Pattinson does with close shots. Fucking loved it.
If someone thinks ben aflek is the best batman they can't be trusted with anything ever
The third act, more like a sign of hope, is that Batman realizes he was in the same direction as the Riddler when they were talking, The Riddler really believe they were working together, he got angry, he was looking at the mirror.
I didn't get this AT ALL, he never thought they were the same. Why he was angry was because he was misunderstood, people took him for a symbol he never meant to be and for people he doesn't stand for. This was not a looking at mirror moment, the other thing that gets Batman on his heels was because he actually thought walking into that room that The Riddler knew who he was. This was the only clever twist that I actually liked in the movie, cause he didn't. He didn't know who Batman was. But if Batman thought he was going down the same path as Riddler was then the conversations he had with catwoman and others before this moment wouldn't have made any sense, he never thought that him and Riddler were the same. But that's just me.
@@koreywinicky7767 I got the sense he never thought he was similar to riddler until riddler said that, and then Bruce got angry because he knew it had truth in it and he hated that
@@Dannyjedge Nah, He never really got angry till it was revealed that The Riddler wasn't done and Batman hadn't figured it out. That was my take away. It wouldn't make sense for their to be truth in it or for it to be real cause of other conversations. I don't find this script great, it's very uneven but even so.
I think the “Before the Batman” book definitely makes the Alfred scene pay off way more. It’s not required of course, but that 2 hour story helped a ton for me
1:24:02 is maybe the hardest I've ever laughed watching one of these reviews
Fucking killed me 😂😂😂 watched a good 10 times holy shiiiiiit
Andy and Tim re enacting 😂😂😂😂
The opening when dudes were shook looking at the shadows, great. Beating the bricks off of the joker wannabes on the platform,the first time he walks into the club, when he was gonna start knocking cop heads, the car chase, when he walked into the club the last time just wasting no time getting down to business. Then, finally the way he dropped down through the glass into the garden, took the beating and kept on, dropped down even though he was all messed up to help those people and the imagery of him guiding them in the dark. That shit is Batman. Batman being bruised and broken, no powers, still getting up and doing the job. The side characters, Selina, Riddler, Penguin, Gordon are better then what begins had to me. I love this movie, 9/10
Batman solving riddles immediately is straight out of the comics lol. When he stumbled in the film I was surprised they made Batman quite vulnerable in this and showed growth by the end.
Ranks super high for me one of the best Batman films I’ve ever seen.
True, but many of the riddles were very easy. So I get why he solved it so easy. These are kid riddles. Overall the Riddler had a cool plan.
It also works with the riddlers point of view. They weren’t meant to be ridiculously hard, because the riddler thought they were on the same side
This is the first time I’ve watched a Batman movie and gone holy shit, THIS IS BATMAN. In my view Batman is who the character is and Bruce Wayne is the mask he puts on to hide his identity. I don’t think any Batman director has ever understood that dichotomy until now. I love that at this point Bruce is just Batman and he hasn’t figured out that he needs the mask. I also totally disagree with Nick that Batman saving people should’ve been cut out. Him becoming a symbol of hope as well as a symbol of fear gave me chills.
Can't believe Nick said, that one of my favourite Batman moments ever was that scene.
Still think Ben Affleck I was a better Batman and Bruce Wayne. He better conveyed that he would rather be Batman than Bruce, but he was also towards the end of his Batman career. I just really hate how tiny RP looks as Bruce and Batman. He looks too tiny.
i left the movie disappointed and said, wow this isn't exactly what i wanted about batman
Some things missed by the crew.
Falcone did know that Selena was his daughter the whole time.
Ava Maria was the song sung by the orphan choir in the video of Thomas Wayne announcing he was running for mayor. Riddler was a part of that orphan choir.
Riddler was? I didn't know if that was supposed to be obvious.... I feel like that's a detail that I missed!
You sure Falcone knew? Why do you think that? Selena explains to him that she is his daughter, which makes me think he did not know.
There’s nothing in the movie that suggested that Flacone knows Selena is his daughter
@@Lewismarty1 Selena says that he knew, which is why she was mad about how he let her get taken away after her mother died.
@@mcdillard4985 I think it implies he knew he had a daughter and that it was her when she was a child, but he didn’t know who she was as an adult. He just assumed this woman was a random girl on the scene. That’s how I read it anyway, otherwise there wouldn’t be the need for her to explain who she was to him
I loved Bruce's not batsuit motorcycle outfit. The giant backpack implies the suit is quickly stuffed in there like a middle schooler with their gym clothes 😂
That backpack is probably stanky!
@@trentdes313 Oh yeah it's def musty as hell. It's always being soaked in rain after all 😂
I had the exact opposite reaction at the end, “oh man, we’re doing Joker AGAIN? Use another villain man…”
Ya. I hope they'll at least save him for a third movie if they do it. Joker would be boring
Another Batman movie would be boring, DC has so many characters to choose from and they keep being lazy and just make batman movies, they should explore the characters they have on the bench and make them compelling and popular so we have something to look at besides Batman and Joker fight all the time, for people to say Batman has such a great rogues gallery they sure do focus on one villain way too much
It’s surprising to see how negative they are in this movie. Besides Kevin they seem to rate it as a 3 or 4 and I think this is easily a 5. The trailer did give away too much and too much of the mystery and hopefully for the sequels they don’t show much in the trailers. But other than that length is my only real critique.
I thought Batman walking around in public and getting POV shots of people reacting to him was incredible. We've never had that before and I thought it raised the question of wondering how weird he is and how people think of him.
Idk why y'all are saying Alfred dying would be better... Tom King did it a couple years back, it was awful and they've been trying to fix it since
Also, it allows the theme of the movie to be put present at the perfect moment. Alfred and how important he is to Bruce starts the change in how he thinks about the Batman.
Yeah idk why they wanted him to die so soon, I can see him dying in the last film, but it’s waaaay too early, there’s a distance between this Alfred and Bruce that I’d like to see be resolved before he’s kill off. And Alfred deserves to go out on his own terms or because it was an active choice that Bruce or Batman made, rather than just bad luck
@@jpalpha118 So much of it is because we have the established Alfred relationship so fresh in everyone's minds from the Nolan trilogy, but everyone forgets that none of that exists any more.
I love Nick, I really do. But insisting that the movie would have had the same outcome without Batman in it was him just digging his heels into not liking this movie.
"I give Matt Reeves kudos for doing something against the grain" proceeds to talk negatively about every way that this film changes/adds to The Batman mythos.
Nick sucks in this, so critical and reaching for issues. Old grumpy man status
The people in the water were in shock, traumatized, Batman made them comeback
Not that anyone will see this, but here’s my problem with Batman begins vs this movie. In begins almost every aspect of Batman is based on someone else’s idea. Bat mobile? Well that’s Wayne military contracts. Same for the bat suit. The concept of theatrics and being an indelible symbol? Well that was the league of shadows. Even the spikey gauntlets weren’t his idea. The best you can say is he thought of the ears. I’m being a bit harsh. But when you need to explain every aspect of the character you dilute it. When we know where Batman buys his underwear, it makes him lesser.
Greg had the best (accidental) pun in the history of Kinda Funny and it went completely unnoticed.
But hot damn I almost died laughing when Greg said he was "floored" by the whole carpentry thing.
I really enjoyed this film. The critiques about the costume, choices, fighting and general actions by Batman can be explained by the first phrase in the movie. This Bruce Wayne has only been Batman for 2 years. He’s still learning, he’s angry, and he’s going to make mistakes. I’m much more interested in what an Ivy, doctor freeze looks like in this world but I’m really hoping they go for a more niche rogues gallery in scarecrow/ Hugo strange/ black mask. People will want the jokers and Harley’s but with this particular Gotham and Batman I’m really interested to see how they tackle the others.
What the fuck are you guys on about. Killing Alfred off would have been the most awful decision ever.
Right. How do you redeem Batman if he loses everything?
2 minutes in and Kevin just whips out a damn burrito. This man.
Weird how Penguin and Falcone didn't factor in to ragubagu at all. I think they boost it up a spot at least.
Such a masterpiece. I'm suprised by the amount of lukewarm reviews.
Shocked at how lukewarm on the movie they were. It felt like, at points, Greg, Tim, and especially Nick really wanted to put this at 3.
Exactly what I expected from a kinda funny review
You guys really do hate audio listeners. Kevin WTF?! I’m at work and end up bleeding from my ears because you had to put an engine roaring.
I never understood how much it takes to get through making one of these untill I saw Andy in pure agony saying "I don't care" like he lost his whole family in a tragic war that's been raging for thousands of years bc they wanted him to hit one more song😭😭😂
i loved the batman. i’ve liked the past batman films but this finally felt like batman/world of gotham based from comics/animation i been wanting for years. I know it’ll never stop but I do wish people would judge a film on what it is rather than compare it to what came before. It’s hard with series like Batman/Spiderman/etc but sometimes it feels people live in past and can’t adapt to something new. Always interesting to hear different takes though.
Batsuit - easily a franchise best. It looks great, it's functional, you guys are 100% right with it. There's a video on CZcams of Robert Pattinson talking about the suit and saying something to the effect of, "He's not invulnerable, it's just a few plates of bulletproof armor and the rest is however much Bruce believes in it, and how superstitious the cowardly are."
I'm gonna go a step further and say that I love that this Batsuit is a cross between the Arkham Origins suit, the "Batman Inc" suit (as seen in Arkham City), the Gotham Knight "Field Test" suit (as it appears in Arkham Knight!), and the Batsuit from the "Smallville: S11" comic, issue #5 "Detective".
But the real cherry on top is how the stitching on the face matches the lines on the Adam West cowl.
What.
The.
Fuck.
The suit is sooooo good. I just pause the movie and just admire it, ngl I cried coz of how amazing it looked. U r spot on with the suit’s influence.
From: Arkham origins, the collar from Gotham by Gaslight, the gauntlets from the Talon’s court of owl by Scott synder, cowl from Adam west ( my fav part of the Pattinson suit)
I was utterly blown away by it.
1. The Dark Knight
2. The Batman
3. The LEGO Batman Movie
4. Joker
5. Batman Begins
6. Batman (1989)
7. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
8. Batman Forever
9. The Dark Knight Rises
10. Batman (1966)
11. Batman & Robin
12. Batman Returns
13. Catwoman
lego batman was a fine movie but putting it ahead of 89 batman is pretty crazy but putting it over joker is literally insane.
No BVS or ZSJL on list?
@@amon__7187 those movies would be 14 and 15 anyways
@@aufhflskih6830 while i disagree with the batman ranking, i also have lego batman over 89 batman which sucks. over the Joker. and over THE BATMAN
@@boochtron 89 batman single handedly made the comic book movie genre hot... superman came before, but movie studios didn't want to do them en masse until after the massive success of 89 batman. there would be no MCU or any of these streaming shows without 89 batman.
Riddler didn't figure out that Bruce was Batman, because he hated Bruce so much, and liked Batman so much, that he denied himself to make that connection due to his own bias
Dude, the weirdest shit happened in my theater... as soon as the movie ended, for some reason... everybody just started chanting "Paul! Dan! Paul Dano! Paul! Dan! Paul Dano!" like we were watching a college football game...
Weird that happened in my theater too.
Legit sitting at my work desk cry laughing at the floating Gonzo
So the answer to the last riddle given to The Riddler isn't "a friend" (showing how vulnerable and in need of attachment he is)...but "a Joker".
I don't get it..
@@AidilAfham interpretation with the Joker being the answer is that the less wildcards you have, which traditionally The Joker is a wildcard, the more valuable a wildcard is
Good movie. 8/10. He lies still fit in the spaces given and there was a cypher to check the answer. Also people figure the answer in the trailer so pretty sure batman could figure it out.
Plus, it's not even like that was the "A ha!" answer.
"He Lies Still" just granted access to part B of the first riddle... with the thumb drive.
This movie is my favorite Batman movie. I love that he gets his ass kicked. I love that he’s incredibly observant. I love that he’s a broken human being.
It’s not perfect by any means, and needs to be about 30 minutes lighter - but god damn, I love it.
I’m happy they actually had something in the Way in the movie and it wasn’t for the trailer
It was great both times they used it
I really want a sequel to have scarecrow as the villain! The idea of having whats real and whats not in this world could be really interesting
That is a great idea. I'd love a psychological thriller in this world although Nolan did explore it in his trilogy.
1:47 True story: this is the first one that I've listened to in the whole series.
I feel like Greg has learned what a 'Carpenter' before
Amazing content. Never change guys 😂😂😂
Been waiting all week for this! WOOO!!
Perfect time for this to release. I needed some relaxation. That damn banished knight in stormveil castle is driving me nuts.
angsty, angry, calm, ferocious
this is such a batman movie go see it 🦇🐀🦅🐈⬛
I really liked this movie, but if they shorten the movie, I would of loved it. Especially since there were several times Batman was just walking or driving to places. Don't need it. I was ready to go home at the end.
A full belly laugh at exactly one minute in. When did Kevin get so funny? (I'm kidding, he's been funny for a long time. But that introduction, "What's up, dudes? Heh, Ha! SMH" **pregnant pause** was flawless.)
26:13 he got “lies still” instead of “forever” or some other word because he could see how many characters were in each word and could see it was 4 characters and then 5 characters
also dead people... lie still....
2:52 - Pardon the interruption, Mr. Gettys, but hey, Kev... whatcha gnashing on?
I'm surprised Tim didn't mention the multiple news reports
My god this review is as long as the movie!
@1:49:54 - Andy, I totally know what you mean. Matt Reeves DEFINITELY saw RPats shoulder blades and was like "Dude. We gotta film that. They look like WINGS, bro!" lol
I'm crying at 4 am at the mayor's son bit followed by the fucking loudest engine revving I've ever heard in my fucking life 😂😂😂
The amount of stuff they rank in this episode is hilarious I was dying with every segment. We need a compilation of every one from this in review
I only listen on Spotify so as an audio only listener: adding the car sound is the worst idea ever
The first 20 minutes alone is more Batman than we’ve ever gotten. This is better than dark knight rises by a mile and I would probably have it second after dark knight but that’s only cuz of
Ledger’s joker.
Was never a fan of bale’s Batman, Pattinson plays a much better Batman and actually nails the detective aspect.
Lol being better than The Dark Knight Rises is not hard to do 😅
@@benvlerick8303 Rises and The Batman has almost the same score The Dark Knight Rises has 87% on Rotten Tomatoes and 90% Audience score The Batman has 85% on Rotten Tomatoes and 91% Audience score they both equally when it comes to critics and general audience score
Paul Dano absolutely slaughtered
Maybe it's because the trailers honestly never got me excited, but I was blown away from this film and I keep getting warmer on it the more I think about it. I'm absolutely on the side of Kevin and Andy here.
I'm the exact opposite. Teaser trailer was phenomenal. Movie was disappointing
@@rainmaker6261 You put your expectations WAY too high.
What the hell is that engine noise we get at 45:00?
First time in a while where I was in a very different place with a movie than you guys. Everything nick, Tim and Greg mentioned as issues worked for me. Personally this is my favourite start to a Batman franchise, and is number 2 for me behind dark knight and above Batman begins
They finna drag y’all for this
Anyone else crap themselves when that car sound came in? Lol someone was watching videos mid cast haha
Honestly the carpet/pentry conversation was my highlight of the video. Excellent content.
To be totally fair Nick it GENUINELY is super hard to identify someone when you can't see their nose. So with the nose and then hair and cheeks covered it would be very hard to tell.
I’d honestly place it right under The Dark Knight! I think it’s probably the closest I’ve ever felt to watching an actual Scott Snyder comic run come to life! So for me it’s one of the all time greats. I’d watch 3 more hours easily! 👌
Yes I been waiting for this since I saw the movie!!
I love this video! Thanks for sharing all your opinions!
you can argue that The Dark Knight is a better made movie with a better story etc. But THIS! The Batman is hands down the greatest "Batman" movie there is. Matt Reeves just understands the character so well. This is the most comic accurate Batman has ever been and I love it. Love the way he's dry with his humor and kind of sassy. Love that he hasn't created the "Bruce Wayne" mask yet, I love how he has an ACTUAL Character Arc in this movie. And then the cinematography, the score , the action...*chefs kiss*
The The Dark Knight is not trying to do too much in 1 film its more contained,Focus story arc that only focus on 1 villian.The Batman kinda feel like Bvs they trying to shoehorn alot of side stuff and story arc instead lf setting it up in the sequel its alot longer and bloated but still quality film
Tdk is bloated
I had a spit take at "catty style" 🤣🤣🤣
Are we all going to ignore the obnoxiously loud car noises during the first Rockin' Robin podcast within a podcast at the 45:00 minute mark? Lol wtf?
26:10 - I thought the "He Lies Still" scene was hilarious because there was a point when the other cop walks in, "The fuck are you doing?" and it was like dad caught the kids smoking weed in the basement playing cops and robbers with his old police or military uniforms. Like, if Ryan Styles and Colin Mochrie just trolled the entire police station by walking into an active crime scene and doing an improv skit to entertain the police standing around with their dicks in their hands.
And I don't think "He Lies Still" was the point of the riddle, that was just part B of the same riddle that ended with "Thumb Drive".
But I do know that "He Lies Still" is a Dad joke. The riddle wasn't, "What do you call a liar who is taking a nap?" or "What do you call a liar that just got knocked the fuck out by Deebo?" It could've been ANYTHING. But he was dead. Still. Inanimate.
And I think the specific riddle had a lot to do with that takeaway, because there's just something about the tension in the room that makes me think, "Yeah, you guys are fucking HIGH."
it's not at all what i was expecting, but a few minor issues aside, i think they did an incredible job. it's such a different take on film Batman, vibing on the "Year" runs, "Hush" , "Long Halloween", "Ego", "When In Rome" & "No Man's Land". i loved what they did with Selena, Falcone, Carmine, Penguin etc. - so much world-building and showing the machinations of all the factions underpinning the city and the class systems and corruption etc., they've laid a lotta groundwork for what could become an incredible trilogy. for me, this is the best iteration of Batman & Gotham City so far when it comes to the movies & i can't wait to see where they take the next one.
Looking forward to seeing this
Are you guys going back to the studio why time soon?
Colin Firth disappeared into the Penguin makeup in The Batman, the same way he disappeared into his Johnny Depp makeup in Fantastic Beasts
So I guess I'm going to be one of those people who writes a novel, and I'm sorry in advance. I loved the review, but there's a number of things in this review that I have trouble with, in regards to criticism towards this movie (which isn't perfect, by any means).
Someone else already said it, but I very much got the sense that Falcone already knew Selina was his daughter (he responds to her saying 'Dad' which is admittedly thin, but still, and when strangling her, he says he did the same to her mother which read to me as moreso than just cruel, but also familiar).
I also got the sense that Batman DID miss the final plot because he was too fixated on the board at Riddler's apartment that made it seem like he knew that Bruce = Batman. Once the call came in, he zoomed immediately to Arkham to see for sure, when the apartment had a wealth of evidence to pore over.
By the way -- the whole 'villain figures out Batman's true identity' thing is SO PLAYED OUT, imo. It's like a joke at this point. It's ridiculous. The fact that Riddler nailed so much of his plot and while still being a fundamentally flawed character without being the caricature that Riddler is often portrayed as in media, AND even he still missed that Bruce = Batman is worked for me, personally. He's not infallibly intelligent, and neither is Bruce-- they both overlook things along the way. And it led to that cool interrogation scene where Batman is too fixated on whether or not he's been found out to realize that the game is still afoot. Thumbs up from me.
I think the whole Thomas Wayne / Martha (Arkham?) and Hush subplots are more than red herrings, and a far sight better than what is present in The Amazing Spider-Man, because fundamentally, Thomas Wayne wasn't planning to turn his fucking kid INTO Batman. These aren't plot threads that relate directly to Bruce and some sort of mystery about why his parents were killed, as much as they serve to flesh out the world in general. TASM makes these mysteries central to the overall plot, whereas here they're used mostly as set dressing to make Gotham feel more lived in and emphasize that the corruption runs to the very core of the city. (I do agree that Telltale did this better, but I also think these threads are laid so they can be picked back up later.) Also, Batman doesn't have dumbass magic blood, which is definitely a massive improvement over TASM.
Riddler definitely thought Batman was in on the plan, which I think is an interesting inversion of the usual Riddler/Batman relationship where Riddler puts out (generally poor) riddles to try and foil Batman (out of compulsion). In this, he's putting out riddles to try and speak to Batman while under the scrutiny/watchful eye of the police, thinking him an intellectual equal, rather than a rival. It's our predisposed notion of the usual Riddler/Batman interplay, plus the fact that the movie is trading on the whole Se7en/Zodiac/investigative drama tropes that causes us to think that he's leaving clues to try and be stopped. That's how I took it anyway.
THAT SAID, I don't want to seem like I think this movie is infallible, so here are some of my complaints:
The OBVIOUS translation of 'rata alada,' apart from the stool pigeon angle, which did make sense to me, is a fucking BAT. In fact, that's a common insult for bats (rats with wings) AND for Batman. That, to me, made the whole idea that Riddler was trying to work WITH the Batman make way more sense. He wasn't speaking ABOUT Falcone, or Penguin or anyone else, he was talking TO the Bat. But it's never cemented in the film that that was the actual intended translation, and it also doesn't read as Reeves assuming the viewer is smart enough to put it together themselves. It feels like they missed something there.
Also yeah, the Joker reveal/makeup is... not great. I would've preferred that to be left out entirely, or doubled down upon like the Hannibal Lecter angle that Tim talked about within that deleted scene. Though I don't know where you'd fit that in this already admittedly overlong movie (much as I enjoyed myself for the whole runtime, it could've definitely been cut down.) Hopefully they can course correct if they do go down this path, because there is a part of me that has a soft spot for Joker and Riddler working together from back in the Gorshin/Romero days, but I'd much rather see some other lesser known villains get an at bat (haaa) first. Clayface, at least the original Basil Karlo incarnation, I think could work in this universe. The emphasis on Halloween at the outset also makes me think of Calendar Man, of course, who also feels like he would be at home here. Also, Zsasz! And Hugo Strange!
Ultimately, I don't think this movie hits the highs of the Nolan trilogy, but I will say this -- The Batman feels more like Reeves embedded himself in a realass Gotham, versus the Nolan trilogy feels like Batman through the (accomplished!) lens of Christopher Nolan. So the idea of a sequel to this Batman gives me a different kind of excitement because they did manage to find a unique tone, even if it's going to get compared to those terrific movies. Cheers, lads!
The reveal of the bat mobile is the greatest introduction of a car in film ever. The fucking sound of the car firing up. Such a dirty ass car
Incredible plot tune by Andy!
A beautiful film, I was engrossed by the visuals and holy shit the sound was incredible that bass for the batmobile was amazing!
It’s so interesting hearing the reactions to this movie. For me, a Batman fan for close to 30 years now, this felt like the best portrayal of Batman in cinema so far. That being said I couldn’t agree more with Andy. A Batman mini series would be a great approach. (#2 behind Dark Knight for me)
i finally saw this movie yesterday. Batman is my favorite character throughout ALL OF FICTION. i left the movie kinda disappointed. good movie. i have a lot of issues with it though
I think I am more with Greg but agree a lot with Tim. None of the revelations had me going - "Oh" save for one thing and that was when we and Batman realized that The Riddler had NO clue who he was. That was a nice moment and I'm with Greg him determining what his symbol should mean is a really good and cool thing to see. But there are so many issues with this movie, it doesn't do anything new, mind blowing or needed in a wide real estate of 3 hours. The detective stuff was cool but there was never a moment where it felt earned, never felt a pay off to any of it and the urgency of it all was watered down by the run time and everything else happening unfortunately. All the performances were fantastic, the score is incredible and it's shot beautifully. Alos, that Joker setup made me laugh audibly in the theater, it was cheesey, it was unneeded and felt like a different movie altogether. The other thing was he gets effed up after jumping off the building, he gets BLOWN up just inches from a bomb, Penguin gets in a rough wreck, Alfred gets blown up, people get the SHIT kicked out of them including Falcone from Catwoman - yet the only blood and messed up flesh we see is the dude that Batman Wails on after taking adrenaline. I liked the film didn't love it, the more I get away from it the less I rate it. It's at a 3 out of five right now.
Glad to see the Kansas hate continue. Was just watching through previous DCEU in reviews and was wondering if Greg's hate of Kansas has changed since he had his kid.
Are you guys going to do an mcu in review of greg talking about eternals or did I just miss that
2:33:24 did not expect _Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children_ to be mentioned in this review
Finally got to watch The Batman on HBO Max which means I could FINALLY check this episode out and y’all did NOT disappoint! Was loving the conversations and then Greg went into Rockin Robin and I almost died from laughing. Completly forgot about that segment😂😂😂 Thanks for the laughs fellas! 🤙🤙