Understanding Chinese Air Force Warplanes
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Overview of the key aircraft of China's PLA Air Force (PLAAF) and the PLA Ground Force Aviation. We cover fighters, force multipliers, bombers and helicopters.
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CHAPTERS
00:32 - Fighters
08:44 - Flight Unveiled
09:33 - J-11 Flankers
11:32 - Force Multipliers
16:24 - Bombers
18:58 - Helicopters
23:58 - Special Request
Keywords: People's Liberation Army Air Force, Chinese military, PLAAF, J-20, J-16, J-10, J-10C, J-11, J-11B, YY-20, Y-20, Y-8, KJ-500, J-16D, H-6, JH-7, JH-7A, Mi-17, Mi-171, Z-8, Z-9, Z-10
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The most interesting part about the J-20 is the fact that it is a delta canard stealth fighter. What a lot of people do not know is that the J-20 is a multi vortex airplane. Vortexes over a wing create a suction effect that increase lift, increases the angle of attack at which the air start separating from the wing. This is so crucial that many modern fighters uses all kinds of tricks to create vortexes over their wings.
Why delta wings are so good is because it naturally create these vortexes because of the way the wing is angled backward. LERX as seen on jets like F-18, the Sukhois all have LERX to create these vortexes. F-16s are actually cropped deltas. Another way to create vortex is to use canards. This is why delta canards are so popular and such a superior configuration. The delta wing is coupled to the canard and they work together to increase the overall maneuverability of the jet. The LERX on the J-20 is itself a vortex generator as you can see in many J-20 videos. What most people don't understand is that unlike the Eurocanards, the J-20 is a canard is positioned more forward from the delta wing as a loose coupled delta-canard and this is done so because of the combination with the LERX.
Most of the vortex over the main delta wing is generated by the delta wing itself and the LERX. The canard also generate vortexes but they go over the main delta wing loosely and thus create even more suction effect that allows the J-20 to hit such high AOA despite being such a large plane. The vortexes from both the LERX and the canard also hit the vertical stabilizer at the back. This means the vert stab also benefit from the suction effect of a vortex, which reduces turbulence and increases its flight control authority. Having the canard as a control surface also allows the vertical stab to be much smaller, compared to fighters like F-22 and F-35 which needed the large vert stabs to create the same amount of control. The vert stab surface areas are huge radar reflectors at many angles, a fact that many Americans just hand wave away. It is also why the J-20 does not need the heavy thrust vectoring with more points-of-failure like the F-22 to achieve the same level of maneuverability.
When you think about it, it really shows just how much innovation has gone into the J-20 aerodynamics design that allows it to be a stealthy delta canard without losing its maneuverability that comes naturally from being a delta-canard. Delta-canard give superior control over conventional configuration. What the people at Chengdu really did a great job at designing the J-20 and incorporate the natural advantages of the delta canard while not sacrificing its stealthiness. It also shows just the immense expertise over these aerodynamic concepts and engineering the designers have.
That is why the US 6th gen aircraft tend to have a similar wing planform to that of J-20 (without vertical tails though). This is the best wing planform for jet fighter I think.
@@kalas2320 first off, you've never seen a US sixth Gen aircraft. So there's that.
Secondly the Chinese Bomber unveiled earlier this year is as close as they could get it to cloning a US B2 bomber, a bomber which the US has already replaced and which is nearly 35 years old.
So the idea that the US is copying Chinese design is wild.
Also canards are bad for stealth compared to traditional stabilizers.
That's because when you have a rotating surface like a canard out front when a radar wave hits it, even if the canards themselves are stealthy the leading edge breaks up and sends the radar return wrapping around in ways that are unpredictable across the full range of moment from the full range of possible radar directions. But if the stabilizer is the last thing with nothing behind it then it doesn't matter.
The most likely reason for the canards is the j20 engine. Canards increase lifting over standard verticals and China is still forced to use old Russian engines (though they did recently steal some US B2 bomber engine tech, which fair enough, espionage is a thing)
Everyone including the US is struggling to meet the demands of generating enough electrical power for all the sensors and radar and computers and communications equipment onboard while also providing the thrust needed to propel the aircraft in a reasonable package.
China has much worse engines and so it saved on lifting force to help power more stuff.
As to why they didn't just increase wing surface area, they want to be able to fit it on a boat.
@@kalas2320 where did you see it? AI generated images? XD
@@sparkzbarca I never say they copy each other. Copying an existing aircraft is far more difficult than developing it from scratch if you know how aircraft design works.
According to the program Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) fighters, Boeing and Lockheed Martic have shown their conceptual configurations for the 6th gen aircraft. Yes, I saw them from news, which nowadays is not a reliable source anymore. But the thing is a 6th gen fighter will be flying-wing-like rather than a conventional cofiguration like F-22 or F-35 because very low observability (VLO) is the first priority. The J-20 configuration is arguably the best jet fighter wing planform aerodunamically. Unlike J-20, the canards and stabilisers of 6th gen fighters are foldable and used only when supermaneuverability is needed. I think the Chinese's 6th gen is gonna have similar configuration and concepts. They are now catching up with the US.
Both countries have done much research on flying wing configurations (see X-56A from Lockheed Martin's youtube channel). The main issue is its stability from missing vertical stabilisers and structural flexiblity. So, there have been research topics like aeroservoelasticity, body freedom flutter, etc. I won't say they copy each other but there definitely are best aircraft configurations for a given mission and flight conditions requirements. A stealth bomber will just look like B-2 if you focus on VLO. They and other top countries know what to do but it depends on who have enough budgets, manufacturing capability, and human resource.
@@sparkzbarcasuddenly, everybody's an aeronautical engineer. WTF do you know about Chinese engines? If their automotive engines are anything to go by, one realises why the EU is so fretful. Let's not even go into US engine production!
Some things i would add (coming up around the corner) …
1… Drones (both loyal wingman and large weapon payload platforms as missile trucks or antiship missile carrier).
2… Aircraft close in self defense anti-missile protection.
3… Also drone cargo aircraft are quickly coming on line.
4… Non stealth short range very high mach speed & very high pop up altitude platform designed to launch very large missiles with extreme range from safe airspace.
5… networked situational awareness including from land & sea surface sensors, and from satellites.
6… combined assault tactics including surface to surface missiles, kamikaze drone swarms, air launched missiles from long range, close air assault, cavitation torpedoes, obsolete fighter aircraft converted into both decoys & kamikaze drones.
7… AG600 seaplane will be deploying and retrieving drone subs and sensor arrays.
Yup, all that and lots more you don't have listed....crazy....
No 4 !👍, beefed up and up-engineered versions of Northrop F-5 or F-20 Tigershark made in high tens or low hundreds.
Cyber info and reversible jamming electronic warfare.
Less brute force. Win elegantly.
Taiwan is Chinese. No need to destroy.
The age of dogfighting is so over now
25 min vid about the Chinise Air Force? On a saturday morning?
This feels like christmas.
Thank you.
The best channel about weapon sets on the platform. Way ahead of competitors. Slow, coherent and very technical description. Congratulations.
Good Quality video, the right lenght and density of content.
Look forward to your posts. Thankyou again for your hard work.🍻
Much appreciated!
During the Qing dynasty, they made the biggest mistake of not building up its military mights. That's why those Imperial Colonial pirates have taken the opportunity to push opium and used it military to try to break up China, after the opium war, China has to lease Hong Kong and Macau for 99 years. China deem it as century of humiliation.
So, Taiwan province is the important for China to reunification peacefully.
The Ming dynasty previously had the most advanced navy and then abandoned it as well. But actually Macau was different. China's navy actually beat Portugal. Macau was allowed for the Portuguese to trade to show no hard feelings.
The Chinese claim over Taiwan is nothing but propaganda to distract the Chinese people from CCP incompetence and stupidity.
Superior intelligence gathering and analysis capabilities, better than 99% of CZcams military video producers. This makes me happy and worried. The reason I am happy is that there are very few people who can make an objective analysis of the Chinese military, most videos just expand "the Chinese stole our technology" into a thirty minutes video. My concern is that you seem to be very good at gathering information about the Chinese Internet, and if I am not mistaken, you should be a Chinese speaker. I'm not going to guess where are you from or what your politics are. I can only hope that if you're not our friend, at least you're not our enemy.
only the west is making an enemy out of everybody
Even the Russians, at some point, went crazy with the idea of the Chinese copying their jets. However, one must know that Russians actually sold their licenses to Chinese factories since the beginning in the 1950s. And, as the new world began in 1992, they realized that diplomacy is better than wishing for a war with your neighbor (afghan lesson).
If they were copying, its because it was a legal deal. The J-15 was basically Ukrainians selling their rights on the SU-27, for example, in the 1990s. Let Zely talk about the bullshit of war now hehehe.
He is Chinese from Taiwan Province. He said in one of his past videos that his father used to serve in the ROC navy. I personally think he is sympathetic to the Mainland.
He's definitely sympathetic to mainland China but I'm an American and I'm sympathetic to America so I'm not really surprised
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Thanks!
Thanks so much :)
J-16 armed with 400km PL-17 escorted by J-20 (both Mid Air Refuelled by YY-20) will ensure no P-8 can operate anywhere where it matters.
30 year-old F-22 armed with 20mm cannon will ensure no J-16 or J-20 can operate anywhere where it matters.
@@Rob_F8F An F-22 with a cannon would be shot down before it gets in cannon range.
@@Rob_F8F The F-22 tried that on the balloon and failed.
Ha.... As long as The F22 stays in the USA nothing can touch it !@@Rob_F8F
@voidtempering8700 F-22 stealthy. J-16 and J-20 not stealthy. Hard to shoot at something you cannot detect.
感谢大佬一直为我们提供优质内容
Thanks so much!
dang im early. Any extra videos on PLAAF is greatly appreciated!
A great video concept. Thank you!
This video is quite a treat.
One of my favorite old Discovery channel documentaries was a series called Wings Of the Red Star, I still watch them on CZcams.
I will check it out
Voiced by Sir Peter Ustinov! The man is a heck of a narrator!
Great Informative Video 👍🏻.Greetings from Pakistan 🇵🇰
I enjoyed immensely this video production concerning the PLAAF varied aircrafts.
As a Chinese-born American, I consume both western and Chinese military assessments. Firstly, I respect you for presenting mostly facts and otherwise viewpoints that both sides agree with.
I think there are two disagreements though, would you be willing to share your thoughts?
(1) J-20: The domestic 10 engine is not intended to achieve supersonic cruise, that's the domestic 15 engine. The 10 engine is operational as shown in your video, but the 15 engine is still in testing, and is encountering manufacturing line issues mostly around precision.
(2) J-20: Most western analysts, including General Ken Wilsbach, commander of the US pacific Air Force, believe that the J-20 was designed as a multi-role stealth bomber (similar in role to F-35) that can do air-superiority, rather than a pure air-superiority machine. That explains the J-20's tiny estimated RCS from the front (as bombing machines would mostly be straight-in) versus relatively larger (by some estimates 2000-50000 times larger than F-22, a pure air-superiority fighter) RCS from other angles. You stated in your video however that the J-20 was designed as an air-superiority fighter. You also did not mention the RCS shortcomings if it were indeed designed in that role.
Believe me, I have nothing but love for China, it's my birth country. But I'm also an American. You can imagine my cognitive dissonance. But I find that the most respected generals in both these countries value and offer objective analyses, so while I believe we can disagree on geopolitical strategy and military doctrine, we do both the countries a service by making sure we get the facts correct.
On point one, I am sure I said upfront that the ultimate J20 power plant is the ws15, and that it is that engine that will provide supercruise and thrust vector control. Ws10 is just an interim. I dont talk about the RCS because it is very speculative - people will believe what they want, and I'm not going to take US sources at face value. What I can say for certain is that the J20 is intended to be an air superiority fighter, according to a recently revealed documentation written 19 years ago.
If I am not mistaken, WS-15 is already in mass production and many J-20s are already integrated with the new engines.
Other than that the role of J-20 is debatable but its capabilities are well recognised.
Others can only guess how PLAAF will utilize it.
It is definitely a threat when engaged because to shoot it down a lock-in is very necessary and it's stealth aspect will definitely make it harder with angles constantly changing in air.
@@EurasiaNavalah sorry, I indeed misheard on point one, or rather I missed your callout to WS 15 so I assumed you were still talking about WS 10. That was my mistake.
Regarding the second point, first of all, thanks for your thorough response and for supplying your arguments.
I agree on your first statement, which is that RCS is notoriously difficult to measure, and that I also don't take western sources at face value.
I don't agree with your conclusion however, for a few reasons:
I somewhat believe (personal opinion) that from a game theory perspective, the US military is incentivized to oversell Chinese military capability while underselling its own in order to procure more funding, whereas the Chinese military may be (slightly) incentivized to oversell its capability to satisfy both the government and the people.
The above said, the US commander stated bluntly (and publicly) that the J-20 essentially evaded detection head-on by current US E-3 planes, so that obviously is a more important metric than RCS (i.e. real world, the J-20 did its job). So, the US is not even claiming that the J-20 cannot evade detection, and in fact openly admitted that their systems were defeated. The US commander also admitted that the J-20 could engage US assets beyond visual range with the Chinese radar plane as sighting.
The above is the reason that I have no reason to doubt US studies / espionage sources that allude to the J-20's estimated 5 square meter RCS. (1) The US never claims that such a metric matters in various real-world combat situations, and (2) the US is candid about China's capabilities and ability to command and control their planes being impressive. Given the above, I still feel that it's disingenuous on your part to not even mention the RCS, and to simply write it off as "western sources". Frankly, let's not bullshit each other, the US and China are both dishonest, but it's hard to see how the US benefits from lying about this, while it's easy to see how China benefits from hiding it.
Re the role of the J-20, I don't necessarily see that western sources benefit from misrepresenting the role of the J-20, but I also don't see that China would benefit from misrepresenting the role of the J-20 either, so I simply won't contest your point that J-20 was designed to be an air superiority fighter, and I also don't think that fully rules out western educated guesses about any re-purposing of the J-20 in its current military strategy. I would guess that when the J-31 comes into service, those assumptions will change, as the J-31 appears on paper to be a much more capable multi-role fighter/bomber.
@@EurasiaNavalI should note that I'm very proud of China's ability to produce the J-20, and even as a USian, I'm not alone in being impressed by China essentially catching up 3-4 generations in the span of two decades. In classic American style however, I simply want to assert and dissect any potential flaws, as we Americans frequently do with our own military assets. I know this can be seen as impertinent questioning or even disrespectful in Chinese culture, so I want to clearly state why I am questioning.
@@jimbojet I will write a much shorter response to your long post - hope that's OK. If you feel I was been disingenious by not talking about RCS, I will reject that categorically. How you feel about my intentions is not something I can control - that's entirely your concern and not mine. I will only remind you that I know my own motives far better than you do.
I also mostly reject your assertion that the US has an incentive to overstate Chinese military capability. Different US entities have different incentives to both overstate and underestimate Chinese capabilities for a wide range of different reasons. It is inaccurate to say the incentives go one way only. A politician, military official, journalist or think tank who want to boost morale and their own support base may well be incentivised to understate Chinese capabilities to achieve that. We see American pundits have underestimated Russia in 2022/23, to be proven entirely wrong.
It is also wrong to say the Chinese military are inclined to overstate their capabilities. This is simply not how they operate. Why do you think there is a scarcity of information on Chinese weapons? It's because the Chinese military themselves give very little information about their own assets, especially when it comes to new systems. This is also why there is so much disinformation floating around. Unlike Western and Russian militaries, the PLA does not provide a source of truth for others to engage with, so people will come in and fill the data vacuum with their own opinions, for better or worse. Good PLA watchers will try to identify reliable sources and insider accounts to try to get closer to the truth. Rather than say the PLA exaggerate their own capabilities, the far more accurate statement is that the PLA hides it as much as possible.
I might not post any further replies - hope that's OK.
Fantastic video, can you make a video of PLA air force of 2035 like you did for navy
News about your video updates is known to everyone from Ireland to China.
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Great Video ENI, best I have seen on the PLAAF for a comprehensive overview. Visually, I think the J-16 derives more from the Su-30 than the Su-27.
I will definitely watch again the video on the 076 LHD! Glad to help out!
Thanks so much man!
Thank you for another very informative discussion/analysis!
will we talk more about Chinese coastal defense strategy more in this channel sometime, to be honest i am Chinese, i want to see how foreigners think of the Chinese navy strategy
from my point, navy strategy is much more complex than Chinese land defending strategy, i recently read some design and theory about Chinese navy strategy, and i want to know how foreigners think of it
I would like to hear about China's carrier operations and how their future nuclear carriers will sail
@@FemboyLegendGD emmm, China employed many foreign experts from every where of this world, especially Russian and Ukraine experts. we paid them a lot, and give free house and free education for their children, you may know the chaos after Soviet Union break up 1991.12.25, we pay them in US dollars
and also read the United States books about carrier operation, maybe also spy honestly, i dont know but maybe
and also theoretical research and development of naval aviation on Chinese research site.i mean you know, even if get permission to access every information of one think, understanding is still a huge problem, and from my knowledge, navy paid 500 million usd to Ukraine for the original blueprint of the carrier, but many blueprints have been lost in 1996 when we tried to buy them. China paid a huge amount of money but still not get a full blueprint of a carrier and many thing about aviation operation. domestic research is essential.
believe it or not, navy tried to get a carrier since 1970s, many aged marshal at the time support the carrier program, we tried many things, and did many thing wrong, paid a lot of money, many people work on it in the past 50 years, finally we got the carrier CV 18 Fujian
for the nuclear carrier, i trust the initial design must started more than 20 years ago. i am also a engineer, i totally know how a sophisticated program should operate, you must research every subsystem before you decide to do it or not, for a nuclear carrier, i believe before the time to build, the nuclear reactor, power, engine, radar, aviation devices, and planes should already been tested thousand times on land bases, colleges and research facilities should already received millions of money and do every caculation and experiment for every technology, you should already trained skillful workers, and the chief engineer should already fully estimated every difficulties of a nuclear carrier
there will sure be many mistakes, but if don't try it, you will even dont know what is the mistake, but time will prove every thing
i mean Chinese economy is ready to support nuclear carriers, and navy and Chinese government and the people want the carrier, so the only difficulty will be the time, time will solve everything, just do it
The Chinese military seems over kill to fight Philippine fishing boats. What are they overcompensating for ?
@@RectalRooter ask Cuba
China are very kind and gently to Philippines the United States puppet in Asia, compared with how American treat the Soviet puppet Cuba
as for Chinese, Chinese government seems too kind and gentle to Chinese neighbors, United States invade every neighbor including Canada and Mexico, American can simply invade Columbia for bananas, and invade Panama more than once for the canal, however, China seems gives too much to Chinese neighbors rather than rob they for goods
if China do the same way as United States, Singapore should be invaded for more than once, the should have a new province called new India, and we should fight against Russians for a port city in northern.
Philippines are definitely American puppet now, but there's only some kind of conflict rather than a real war, and president of Philippine, and not beginning murder 1000 times in the past few years, i wonder why China do not learn from the super power have been proved, the United States.
@@RectalRooteri mean China do not want a Columbia or Cuba or Mexico at coast line, China tries to avoid any of conflicts with near countries
if a near country join the potential enermy like Soviet Union or United States, and try to provocative China, there will be a instant punishment war, the last is Vietnam, China totally destroyed heavy industry in Vietnam in 1979
i think Philippines are on a edge of joining United States and provocative China, at this time, China tend to give some kind of warn and let them know how is it feel to be a Cuba near United States coastline, however if they really decide to be a Cuba near United States, those things United States do to Cuba, China knows these things and will actually do as American do
China do not want a Cuba so we give warns first, however, China is not going to decide for Philippines to be or not to be, the decisions are made by Philippines, we are sure they are as tough as those in Cuba, they will pay for the decision as Cuba pay it, and we also expect United States, support Philippines as how Soviet Union support Cuba, people in middle east knows how do Americans support their allies
Excellent presentation, and a very comprehensive overview. The entire "family" is able to work seamlessly together, so providing a very "organic" system of air superiority and airspace management. (Slightly disappointed that you "forgot" to mention the PLA Army's "formidable" autogyros ( czcams.com/video/ZhOsu1Vktqw/video.html&ab_channel=EurasiaNavalInsight ) 😀 😀)
Those autogyros are ideal for converting to swarms of low cost drones launching ground attack missiles from halfway safe 10 or 20 km away.(100+ kg weapon payload)
Haha true!
I highly doubt those autogyros would be useful for anything other than being used as drones, they look kinda useless as actual manned vehicles
autogyros not belong to PLAAF,that's ground force equipment,just a flying pickup.
Look at the patterns when you used pictures of the L HD as the thumbnail you got a lot less views, but when you used drawings that looked more like aircraft carriers, you got a lot more views
Also, when you have the word aircraft carrier in the title, it does a lot better
the top gun effect 😂
Finally! Air force!!
If humanity spent just a fraction of the money that we spend on weapons of war on space exploration instead, we would already have colonies on Mars. What a waste. Will we ever learn.
We will never learn, unfortunately it's human nature.
In fact, much of the technological development in aerospace has been driven by military needs.
If humanity spent just a fraction of the money on weapons on actual climate policies, we'd not be sleepwalking towards utter disaster for humankind. What a waste.
It's unlikely the west will ever learn
If humanity spent just a fraction of the money on weapons on actual climate policies, we'd not be sleepwalking towards utter disaster for humankind. Someday maybe... someday.
Eurasian Air and Naval Insight!
Thank you for the great video.
I think the video is better to add some contrast, such as how much more advanced the j16d is than the ea18g, while China popularizes AESA, is NATO's radar out of radar? How many times more powerful is the conformal antenna of the kj3000 than the outdated antenna of the E7. The true strength of the PLA can only be known by making a horizontal comparison of the US military's fighter planes. It is better to import them into the coordinate system, and it is difficult for beginners to understand the technical details just by introducing them.❤❤❤
现在是体系作战，没有实战前纸面数据毫无意义。
@@tonyhy5698 You're right, but they don't even know what systematization is. Do you expect to tell them a word for them to imagine?
They made of liteweight pop metal.
Seeking for a Video about Hangur class submarine ✌️
what is the rader cross section?
something like reflection of light
radar wave will reflect back by planes so radar can see a remote plane
and radar cross section is something describe how strong the reflected radar waves are, bigger RCS means more radar waves will be reflected back to radar, that means planes are less stealthy
RCS is affected by many reasons, and is different from different directions, basically the shape of a plane do affect directions where radar waves will be reflected and make it less radar waves or more will be reflected back to radar, and how much radar waves will be absorbed by the plane it self will decide how strong the reflected radar waves are
RCS is now a standard unit to evaluate how stealth a plane will be, and is now a standard unit to evaluate how stealth a plane can be
While I'm glad to see air force videos, you should know the J-11D is not a real aircraft, has never been seen & has been cancelled for the J-16, I expected better from an SDFer 🤔
Wonderful
Believe it or not, I saw myself on the airfield at 3:32
你是航空摄影师吗😂
Well well well
How embarrassing! The temu packaging got stuck on the airplane in the thumbnail
J-10C is a beautiful bird!
Can the west taiwan j20 capable defeating the f35 from the US?
Nothing is invincible, however the f35 is harder to detect, especially for chinese eots, as well as superior western radars, the j20 could get the jump on an f35, but the f35 is usually more favorable in this scenario
Great video but you failed to even mention MKk MK2 or the SU-35. They may not be Frontline fighters but in air war they will play a role.
The Chinese military seems over kill to fight Philippine fishing boats. What are they overcompensating for ?
pla的24架su35目前已经被边缘化了，现在放在东南沿海日常巡逻用
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Y8 show here are submarines hunter
Usable pictures are not easy to find
Full spectrum domination in the west Pacific. Is that too much to ask...? :)
can the J-10 carry missile in the inner wing phylon?
never see one did that.
N
no
inner phylon carries only bombes or oil tankers
base on a air fight only initial design
No, his daily is 2 combat +2 medium range missile mount, air combat is 2+4 composite missile mount, such mounting is to reserve 2 fuel tanks for large range take-off
J-20 needs better landing configuration.. now it is load limiting and tyre critical. J-16 is equally hampered. Operation on unimproved surfaces are not likely.
Toys
Its all copy cut.
there's no copycut, maybe the design has similarity because if you look at some WW2 airplanes from german, britain, usa they have some similarities. But the internal is always different in every airplane
@@siboyyy1056 hahahaha not a good example
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Why parachite needed? Should have the brake
It complements the brakes
Changing brakes is expensive!
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SU 35 is better than j16
su35装备的部队已经换装了j16，精锐部队披露出来的信息是对su35的整体性能不满意，因为这支部队在中国南海方向，su35还是有不错的地方的，更强的发动机和机体优化
The SU-35 was a stop-gap booster when China thought it was going to war with the US in the South China Sea in 2016. China has since stop purchasing them, and gone full speed production on J16, likely due to logistical uniformity and accessment that the J16 is not worse, or even better than the Russian Su35.
The Chinese military seems over kill to fight Philippine fishing boats. What are they overcompensating for ?
@@RectalRooter You seem to post this one left and right numerous times. This is not what a normal person will do on CZcams. Are you on a mission? If so please tell us if you're getting paid for it. LOL
@@ningzhang3282 We are SPRATA --- Thank you for the reply. Off to cash the check 😆
Has china actually demonstrated the abilities to transfer data targeting from one plane to another
Has America? As if they will spell it out for you just to prove a point. Dumb question
@@caldinacube7490uh YEAH DUMMY we (USA) have shown and PROVED we have this capability YEARS ago so wtf are YOU talking about?? 😂😂 China stole and copied literally around 70% of ALL their "modern" aircraft. Russia actually sued China for buying their jets JUST so you non creative and non innovating copycats could reverse engineer and make justttt enough changes to legally call it "Chinese". Get real. You people are nothing without advanced western and Russian technology and R&D. You hack mostly American defense contractors and viola!! Here comes the copycats current lineup of "advanced" air force warplanes. Smh. Someday you people will learn enough to NOT have to steal and copy EVERYTHING USA does and actually say YOU "created" something without looking at your neighbors tests like we are in high school and not worry about the teacher catching you and sending you to the principal's office 😂😂😂 GOOD LUCK SLANT EYES ❕🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾👌🏾
No Spudz they have NOT and IF they ever do you can bet your bank account it'll be because they managed to STEAL enough from USA to halfway do it right 😂😂😂
@@Triggatra4258 Damn why did US keep getting their data stolen? Where were the topnotch counter intelligence and cyber security? Don't they have any? All I heard is empty talks from someone with pale skin and disgusting freckles
If you are asking about the “kill chain” then china is not on the same level as the United States.
保護自己領空領海及領土
越界必被痛擊
所以日美國海空軍不敢越雷池半步
同胞們加油自強不息
台湾同胞吗
The Chinese military seems over kill to fight Philippine fishing boats. What are they overcompensating for ?
都是假的，大部分是电脑CG😁
But it still looks cool! 😊
@@BeerOverIP我是中国人，这些都是中国共产党为了吓唬别人用电脑做出的五代机CG，我们根本就没有J20，我们只有J16这一款四代机😊😊😊
PRC has already advance its military development to great heights but still lack of actual test such as real operation and weapon stress to the max. Without war, no weapon can justify until its been used in every situation as track record. Every single deployment marks the evidence of its performance .
nowadays chinese ain't as bloodlust as their western counterparts
weapons without strategies are just toys
And yet the U.S lost Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and debatable on Gaza… So much for decades of testing and experiences
@@caldinacube7490 It someone likes to use "media" talking points without knowing the history.
Pathetic.
@@caldinacube7490 the war is not meant to be won. it's meant to be forever. usa govt has long been hijacked by the globalists. the entire system is a scam. many people are still unaware of how big the web of lies and rackets they spin. follow the money and resources. ideologies, religions, racism, nationalism etc are just the vehicles for their global divide and conquer scheme.
The problem of this market products for public. Even this day china can not make environmental and cheap to operate all there engine if they can adopt this.
But *China Observer* and *WION* have contradictory videos on Chinese armaments' and weaponry, on the derisive side in fact.
Lmao those 2 are ones of the most biased channels out there. But you do you
WION basically just talks bad about china, if you like Wion, then take it with a grain of salt. China Observer will only report negative things about China. If China does anything positive, China Observer and other news outlet like China Uncensored (NTD), China insider will not report on it. Both news outlets basically thrive on only negative news about China.
Indians have been having an inferiority complex against the Chinese since 1962. Ignore them.
They have 20 to 30 minutes videos full of arguments. That tells us a lot. 😅
@@Idontgiveaf566 You can feel the inferiority complex emanating from these Indian channels lol.
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some pros you left out
the vast number of complex high altitude drones china has are likely to be extremely useful to j20s very long range kill chain, especially if satellites capability are degraded
the j20 really is an awac killer with its extremely long range air to air missiles. this is a big superiority of western air forces that was never threatened in past conflicts like iraq
the j10 is a more agile f16, very likely to out maneuver missiles better than the legendary f16's performance in past conflicts
the china rocket force's vast array of very long range missiles should not be left out in an assessment of chinas air force as they complement each other in any future pacific conflict
some cons worth mentioning
chinas engine mfg ability has not yet been demonstrated, as would be the case if they produced a single engine 5th gen like f35
j20 has a high thermal signature from the rear and its canards are a bit of a contradiction to its stealth and long range role imo.
china is still lacking in number enough aerial refueling platforms. ideally they would be developing a stealthy drone to do this job like the usa.
their strategic bombers are not able to safely fly with a very heavy payload. imo not a very modern design. this would not be as big of an issue if they had more refueling capability.
A few quick thoughts (only on points I don't fully agree with):
1. While the J-20 can target AWAC, it should be seen as an air superiority fighter first and foremost, one that is designed to engage F-22 and F-35 in aerial combat. This is the documented intention behind the J-20, not an interceptor role.
2. J-20 has been mostly upgraded with serrated WS-10C and (in some few cases) WS-15 engines. The serrated nozzle is a key improvement that will reduce thermal signature from the rear.
3. Canard is not viewed as a contradiction to stealth by top stealth aircraft designers. Chengdu Aerospace is one of them too. So are Boeing and Lockheed. The Joint Strike Fighter program used canards early on before dropping them. Boeing recently unveiled a stealth drone with canards. If such a contradiction exists, canards won't have been considered.
4. I'm not really convinced F-35's engine is actually 5th gen. Sure, it provides high thrust, but it cannot do supercruise (an enabler of stealth in key respects), which is something aimed for in the WS-15.
Airbus loyal wingman stealth drone has canard design too
for extreme A-A kills... J20 will feed targeting solution to J11/16 further behind carrying PL17 for 400km engagement
Lower quality bombers and lack of refueling capability; could that simply be because they're preparing to fight in their own backyard, the South China Sea?
@@fatdoi003 lol then why did they make the j20 weapon bay big enough to carry pl17. compromise imo. could have used the extra fuel space and made the plane smaller
PLAAF's Chengdu J-10C (Block II) multi role air dominance fighter is the best among all that China has to offer . . . age of reverse engineering is gone, this is the time of contemporaries . . . think of it as the F-16 of China . . .
what's J10E??
@@fatdoi003Export variant of J-10.
I think Pakistan got 25 of them. Are there any other buyers?
The Chinese military seems over kill to fight Philippine fishing boats. What are they overcompensating for ?
@@RectalRooter Chinese.just using coastguard not navy.... If you search SCS claim of each country then you'll realise how many overlaps are there as each country claims a big piece....
pretty machines
It's basically an old mig in a copied Western shell
Yeah, there must have been a couple of seagulls stuffed in the cabin to provide lift for it.
Definitely 😂
Warfare is more and more about he proper employment of systems within systems within systems, not the capability of nay one piece of equipment. I am glad you touched upon that with regards to he aircrafts. With that said, I still haven't seen evidence that the PLA have fully integrated their operations. The West were shocked with how far the Russian military have deteriorated. Russia has fallen as far back as WW I regarding their tactics and intergration of the various arms. I think China has noted the Russian failures and taken steps, but I question how far along China has progressed in this regard.
Russians are winning in Ukraine. Their tactics are not "WW1", contrary to your assertion. It would be good for you to take a step back and ask whether your views are grounded in reality
@@EurasiaNaval Russia is winning ?
@@EurasiaNaval
I disagree that Russia is winning. They may be may be gaining modest ground measured in hundreds of meters, maybe occasionally a kilometer, but this is not that much better than in WW I. Furthermore, they are doing so at great cost. This is abysmal considering the both the qualitative and quantitative advantages Russia has.
The tactics are primarily frontal assaults of infantry, and now occasionally armor, with lots of artillery. The only difference from WW I tactics is that there are no massed assaults, but mainly becaus ethere are fewer troops involved. The last significant large unit maneuver warfare was by the Ukrainians a while ago. Furthermore, Russia is paying a great cost for whatgain they are making. This is abysmal considering the both the qualitative and quantitative advantages Russia has.
@@ycplum7062 So Russia has "qualitative and quantitative advantages", with Ukraine receiving weapons and aid of all sorts worth literally hundreds of billions of USD from the entire Western world? You can choose to believe it, of course, if that makes you feel a bit more comfortable inside, LOL
@@ningzhang3282
While Ukraine has some qualitative advantages in some limited systems in small quantities, like artillery shells, IFV, and ATACMs, they have a significant qualitative disadvantange in aircraft, ECM, self-propelled artillery, and ballistic missiles other than the limited ATACMs.
The west may be pooring billions of dollars into Ukraine, but Russia is also spending billions of dollars themselves. And they have legacy Soviet era equipment that has already been paid for.
Their advantage only is their loading capacity & its missile ranges.yet US jets can kill them in real dogfight.nuahaha
"Their advantage only is their loading capacity & its missile ranges"
That's how approximately 95% of so called "dogfights" are won these day's though, pilot training matters too of course.
1. The J-20 is not a cutting edge 5th Gen fighter. It's a 4.5 Gen mild stealth fighter. It competes with the f35, not the F22.
2. Even if the J-20 catches up with the f35, it'll only be catching up to early 2000s tech. It won't catch up with the F22. Nevermind the F22 super raptor whenever it enters service.
3. 300 J-20s is under half of the current fleet of 600 plus f35s and less than an a 8th of the planned 2400 f35s.
4. China operates 67 Y-20s. The vast majority of these are not refuelers. The US has 563 refuelers not counting smaller air frames that can share fuel like the f15.
5. China does match the US with AWACs. China has 30. The US has 31.
6. China has roughly 300 mi-17s and 500 attack helicopters. The US has 1900 Blackhawks alone. The US has about 1200 attack helicopters. This doesn't include AH6/Uh6 little birds that are used mostly in SF. Neither does it include utility choppers like the hundreds of Chinook.00
Ultimately, this numbers game doesn't matter. The reality is the PLAA is a weak force. It's pilots don't get enough flight time. They have zero combat experience. Their equipment is outdated bad copies of 20-30 year old western equipment at best or 50-70 year old copies of Soviet technology at worst. They can hardly project power off their own coasts, much less globally.
Also, I noticed you failed to even mention China's carrier. This is probably for the best. After all, their carrier is a fair weather, warm water, carrier.
J20 is a 4.5 Gen mild stealth fighter?Good joke really.😂
Lol thanks for the laugh 😂
@@accountantthe3394If you think that's funny you'll love it when the US navy blows those "5th gen" fighters out of the sky with FA-18s in a couple years.
@@TheWesman45 Let's see this navy fly a few F35s without crashing first lol
@@accountantthe3394Let's see China fly anything during a stormy night from their single carrier. Oh wait, they can't. They still got the training wheels on.
Temu ass Airforce
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yawn....
Sure the J20 has disposable engine and no experience pilots.
As usual, at least 1 generation behind the USA. As of May 2024, the USA already has a 6 gen (NGAD) working on 7.
6?this is joke
@qin...
No joke !
look at this clowi🎉
@@MarkLandrebe-ef5ydit is probably still on a power point tho, it didn’t even take the first flight yet I believe ⚰️😢
@@MarkLandrebe-ef5ydsince lockheed martin still didn’t have the hypersonic weapon done yet, i think it is pretty difficult for them to have ngad ready before the chinese’s “ngad”
That mao communist English narration is just ridiculous 😂
真的很惊讶，竟然有人做了这种视频。
大概是因为中国登月的原因，被真正重视了。
以前看油管毫无道理的贬低诋毁中国武器，还觉得挺有意思的。 其实我们中国挺喜欢被低估实力的。 不被重视，就不会被视为威胁。
这是个台湾哥们，人家好久以前就在做中国海空军装备视频了
Thanks!
Hey thanks so much!