A lot of EMS agencies in major metro areas use system status management and sit in their ambulances all day moving around where needed. They sit at gas stations or shopping centers and don’t see the station until the end of the shift.
You're right. FDNY EMS do what you're describing because none of the Ambulances operate out of Fire Houses. If I had an Ambulance standing by at my Apt complex I'd do everything to make then feel welcomed.
@@ems324the only thing is FDNY doesn’t have to deal with 100 degrees for 30+ days out of the year, which does heat up the units no matter what the units color is.
And I like how it's only an issue until one of those losers that live there need an ambulance but then they have the audacity to vandalize and complain
Out here in NorCal our rigs are stationed out of parking lots, with no services at all. I would have loved an apartment to hang out in vs sitting in a rig on blacktop.
"We wouldn't allow this for police or firefighters." That statement right there resonates throughout the country. EMS is a red headed step kid and will never be considered anything more by anyone. When we run x3 the amount of calls than any police or fire dept country wide.
It's kind of funny the news is covering this. People don't realize how many ambulance services in the United States use random houses and apartments further units to respond from
@@Medic746 The country is a lot bigger than your neck of the woods. I've been on for 7 years and seen many private and public entities housed in apartments or residential houses. Including Fire, not only EMS.
@@Medic746 My company had a number of stations inside hotels. Our station was a hotel room. It had benefits and downsides, we got our rooms cleaned by housekeeping, bigger beds and nicer furniture, but the hotel stations were smaller, had less accommodations (proper fridge, stove/oven, etc) and it took longer to get out to the rig/back in over the dedicated stations.
do what do you consider what the drug dealers are doing in those apartments? I've been an EMT for 32 years and I'll tell you EMS is more essential then any other job with the exception of Fire, Police, and Garbage disposal. Furthermore, the residents don't own the apartments that they (the residents) live in. It's the owners of the Apartment Complex who have allowed this. Technically the ATCEMS are not operating a business out of an apartment. The EMTs and Medics are on standby and respond from their standby location.
Well, at $250-350/sq ft for commercial construction in Austin, how small of a building do you want? 2,500 square feet for a two bay fire station. The two bays will take up around 1,500 square feet and a 1,000 square feet left for equipment rooms, kitchen, individual bedrooms for each EMT, and separate bathrooms/locker rooms/showers. Just this tiny firehouse would cost you $500,000-750,000. Then add the land costs, and all of the other misc costs you can expect another 25% for everything you need to put inside it.
@@w9awx1Dude, a warehouse with a generator, AC and a bathroom is more than enough for a temporary solution. Frame out some interior walls and you have rooms.
No way they threatened to tow the ambulances... When they need one they will think about that day when there was 1 so close by but they towed it. Smh brainless
That is not how taxes work. The debt comes from social security and other social programs. You can defund the military and halt all foreign aid and the debt still wouldn’t go down.
@@herotrueblue5704And also Foreign aid is a responsibility of the federal government and not the local governments which handle EMS. Also Foreign aid is like less than 1% of the federal budget overall.
This is enept planners for the city and county. They failed to predict and project growth spurts and to expand the necessary services. Necessary services are not pet projects. They are fire, police, and ems. Along with trash water and sewer. Schools would be in that mix also. Nothing else. These are essential needs. If they are not planning for this growth with these services than the person doing that role needs to be moved or released and filled with someone that can do the job.
there is no such thing as ,,you cannot install a generator because you cannot separate from the power line". after the electricity counter on the main power box put a automatic transfer switch who has the default connection onto main power line and the back-up connection tie to big UPS or hibrid solar generator (that only have 48V 200A battery) and after that a generator and a automatic pannel that commands the generator. this way in case of no power, the whole apartment will not be taken (for few seconds) via 0 power for few seconds because you have the hibrid power generator that acts as UPS who takes over the power needs lift for few seconds until the automatic command panel of generator gives command to generator and that generator kicks in into it's duty. i reckon with 5k$ (or even cheaper) this way it can be done.
I remember apartment stations! It’s no it deal, except the employees are whining! They should be pulled from station @0705 in the morning and not get back until 0300 next morning. Life’s hard! Nobody ever said life was fair except once behind the old 7-11…
Do you really need the sirens in the apartment complex? Jesus, how fast are you going to be going in an apartment complex? It just creates animosity to the residents. Why not operate out of a hotel? That would make more sense, quicker in and out times, unless there are none in the area.
hotels are way more sketchy and generally aren't made for long term use. They have a 3 bedroom apartment so probably 3 crews use it. Hotels usually don't have 3 bedrooms
Unfortunately, the way that laws are written in many states there is additional liability placed upon first responders if they aren't using visual and audible warning devices. Most fire/EMS departments have policies recommending or requiring use of lights and sirens or none at all.
A true shame that the city will stoop to that, but apartments bring in multiple millions or tax dollars and public buildings are tax exempt. . The cities are too busy cramming taxable junk onto the open lands that this has happened.
A temporary solution but unacceptable long-term. No EMS agency looks on this as a permanent way to house a crew & rig. Medications & equipment must be maintained within certain temperature & security parameters. Forcing a crew to sit in an idling ambulance for hours in a mall lot is never going to recruit or retain the skilled personnel urgently needed for this vital service. There are a few agencies nationwide which operate like this but strategic posting is not suitable for most jurisdictions. FDNY crews, both EMS & fire, may not see the inside of their stations on a shift due to incredible call volumes. FDNY EMS responds to almost two million runs per year with only 450 rigs. Do the numbers. That's over 4000 runs per rig per year averaged. Many rigs are out of service at any one time due to the heavy wear & tear of constant operation so the ratio is likely much higher.
I would flip my absolute gourd if I had to hear an ambulance siren within the gated area. There's no need for that. Leave the siren for when you reach the actual road. I wonder how much people pay there to hear that obnoxious thing at all hours.
A lot of newer complexes have systems where you need to hit the siren to activate/open the gate. You think the apartment complex is going to give a remote for each ambulance TCEMS owns?
That seems like a poorly planned idea. We had six new stations built in our city over the past few years, three on existing sites. Short term we were set up in demountable buildings at the back of fire stations (in Australia EMS and FD are two distinct entities) and at one we rented a spot in an industrial estate while the new stations were built.
@@literalantifaterrorist4673 Yes, hired because of her race and/or gender. At least Connor gets hired because he actually deserves the job and is the best person for it.
@@chazman4461well, Texas may not be eroding, however, as of today March 5, 2024, it is indeed burning, literally. At least the Upper Panhandle is. I know people personally who live in that area, and have told them they should have a big out bag with all the necessary supplies, just in case they are told to evacuate.
A lot of EMS agencies in major metro areas use system status management and sit in their ambulances all day moving around where needed. They sit at gas stations or shopping centers and don’t see the station until the end of the shift.
Yeah, nothing beats pooping in a 7-11 on duty.
You're right. FDNY EMS do what you're describing because none of the Ambulances operate out of Fire Houses. If I had an Ambulance standing by at my Apt complex I'd do everything to make then feel welcomed.
@@ems324the only thing is FDNY doesn’t have to deal with 100 degrees for 30+ days out of the year, which does heat up the units no matter what the units color is.
@@ems324 This isn't NYC. Apples & bowling balls, my friend.
Yeah sitting in your trucks all day is ridiculous.
And I like how it's only an issue until one of those losers that live there need an ambulance but then they have the audacity to vandalize and complain
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Out here in NorCal our rigs are stationed out of parking lots, with no services at all. I would have loved an apartment to hang out in vs sitting in a rig on blacktop.
"We wouldn't allow this for police or firefighters." That statement right there resonates throughout the country. EMS is a red headed step kid and will never be considered anything more by anyone. When we run x3 the amount of calls than any police or fire dept country wide.
It's kind of funny the news is covering this. People don't realize how many ambulance services in the United States use random houses and apartments further units to respond from
Not really
@@Medic746 The country is a lot bigger than your neck of the woods. I've been on for 7 years and seen many private and public entities housed in apartments or residential houses. Including Fire, not only EMS.
MEDIA IS SO CLUELESS
@@Medic746 My company had a number of stations inside hotels. Our station was a hotel room. It had benefits and downsides, we got our rooms cleaned by housekeeping, bigger beds and nicer furniture, but the hotel stations were smaller, had less accommodations (proper fridge, stove/oven, etc) and it took longer to get out to the rig/back in over the dedicated stations.
there will always be people who love seeing these in the apartments as well as those that hate them.
Me trying to wrap my head around who is vandalizing Fire and EMS...
Degenerate losers.
The residents have a point. I would consider it operating an "essential" business in a residential zone.
do what do you consider what the drug dealers are doing in those apartments? I've been an EMT for 32 years and I'll tell you EMS is more essential then any other job with the exception of Fire, Police, and Garbage disposal. Furthermore, the residents don't own the apartments that they (the residents) live in. It's the owners of the Apartment Complex who have allowed this. Technically the ATCEMS are not operating a business out of an apartment. The EMTs and Medics are on standby and respond from their standby location.
you really are the special one arent you
If they can't provide their demands then they just won't cover their city anymore, it's their loss. 🤷
How hard is it to allocate money to build a small 1 bay station with rooms and parking for personal vehicles?
Well, at $250-350/sq ft for commercial construction in Austin, how small of a building do you want? 2,500 square feet for a two bay fire station. The two bays will take up around 1,500 square feet and a 1,000 square feet left for equipment rooms, kitchen, individual bedrooms for each EMT, and separate bathrooms/locker rooms/showers. Just this tiny firehouse would cost you $500,000-750,000. Then add the land costs, and all of the other misc costs you can expect another 25% for everything you need to put inside it.
@@w9awx1it’s for the benefit of the county, would you not want to buy food if it was costed at say 20-50 bucks?
@@w9awx1Dude, a warehouse with a generator, AC and a bathroom is more than enough for a temporary solution. Frame out some interior walls and you have rooms.
If it's so easy, what's stopping you?
This very poor management from county leaders and politicians.
Shoot. I've worked out of a rented three bedroom house, a garage with only two couches, and a partly abandoned church..
No way they threatened to tow the ambulances... When they need one they will think about that day when there was 1 so close by but they towed it. Smh brainless
We can send billions to foreign countries but can’t afford an ambulance station
That is not how taxes work. The debt comes from social security and other social programs. You can defund the military and halt all foreign aid and the debt still wouldn’t go down.
@@herotrueblue5704And also Foreign aid is a responsibility of the federal government and not the local governments which handle EMS. Also Foreign aid is like less than 1% of the federal budget overall.
We send money to Israel while our own EMS services go without facilities to operate from. Enough is enough
Better yet, we can send millions to police departments to buy military vehicles but fire departments and EMS have to hold bake sales?
A temporary measure for a few weeks for a deployment would be ok, but two years? That’s poor.
This is enept planners for the city and county. They failed to predict and project growth spurts and to expand the necessary services. Necessary services are not pet projects. They are fire, police, and ems. Along with trash water and sewer. Schools would be in that mix also. Nothing else. These are essential needs. If they are not planning for this growth with these services than the person doing that role needs to be moved or released and filled with someone that can do the job.
If they can’t provide a safe work environment then they can just not cover their area anymore 😂😂
In the 80's and 90's the town I grew up in had the ambulance company they contracted with staying in apartments.
Don't need a station,in WV we use single wide trailers or rent houses
there is no such thing as ,,you cannot install a generator because you cannot separate from the power line". after the electricity counter on the main power box put a automatic transfer switch who has the default connection onto main power line and the back-up connection tie to big UPS or hibrid solar generator (that only have 48V 200A battery) and after that a generator and a automatic pannel that commands the generator. this way in case of no power, the whole apartment will not be taken (for few seconds) via 0 power for few seconds because you have the hibrid power generator that acts as UPS who takes over the power needs lift for few seconds until the automatic command panel of generator gives command to generator and that generator kicks in into it's duty. i reckon with 5k$ (or even cheaper) this way it can be done.
There isn't any abandoned garages or store fronts that are for sale or lease?
I remember apartment stations! It’s no it deal, except the employees are whining! They should be pulled from station @0705 in the morning and not get back until 0300 next morning. Life’s hard! Nobody ever said life was fair except once behind the old 7-11…
Bad stuff!! You need to find an old mechanic garage or have a steel garage built!!
Surprised they don’t make them use a tent.
They could just build a pole barn and put a climate controlled office in it. Cheap quick solution while the long term solutions are worked out.
Do you really need the sirens in the apartment complex? Jesus, how fast are you going to be going in an apartment complex? It just creates animosity to the residents. Why not operate out of a hotel? That would make more sense, quicker in and out times, unless there are none in the area.
hotels are way more sketchy and generally aren't made for long term use. They have a 3 bedroom apartment so probably 3 crews use it. Hotels usually don't have 3 bedrooms
Unfortunately, the way that laws are written in many states there is additional liability placed upon first responders if they aren't using visual and audible warning devices. Most fire/EMS departments have policies recommending or requiring use of lights and sirens or none at all.
@@billydunwoody rent three rooms.
@@user-ln7of9gs4s that would be more then a 3 bedroom apartment lol
we’re legally required to operate with lights AND sirens, otherwise we aren’t given the privileges of an emergency vehicle
A true shame that the city will stoop to that, but apartments bring in multiple millions or tax dollars and public buildings are tax exempt. . The cities are too busy cramming taxable junk onto the open lands that this has happened.
People dont realize how EMS in the united states is failing. Its not like the fire department where its all nice vehicles, equipment, and stations.
This is what happens with private EMS companies. They would rather make money then spend it on stations
Except, they aren’t a private EMS system.
They aren't private, they're third service. Also considered one of the most clinically-progressive and attractive agencies in the country.
Imagine the constant Sirens 🚨 the residents deal with everyday 😔
No different than fire stations and police stations in residential areas.
They’re saving lives. I could care less
There wouldn’t be these problems if the leadership did their jobs and the elected officials listened.
A temporary solution but unacceptable long-term. No EMS agency looks on this as a permanent way to house a crew & rig. Medications & equipment must be maintained within certain temperature & security parameters. Forcing a crew to sit in an idling ambulance for hours in a mall lot is never going to recruit or retain the skilled personnel urgently needed for this vital service. There are a few agencies nationwide which operate like this but strategic posting is not suitable for most jurisdictions. FDNY crews, both EMS & fire, may not see the inside of their stations on a shift due to incredible call volumes. FDNY EMS responds to almost two million runs per year with only 450 rigs. Do the numbers. That's over 4000 runs per rig per year averaged. Many rigs are out of service at any one time due to the heavy wear & tear of constant operation so the ratio is likely much higher.
Why not just build or get a station thats on yall
I hope they are taking their narc kits in with them. Seems like an easy way for the rig to get robbed.
Shame on Travis County!
It's because the state has sold out to big businesses. We sold our state and city owned institutions to business like st.davids and seton
1:18 KVUE... Please don't bother fact checking everything she says.
I would flip my absolute gourd if I had to hear an ambulance siren within the gated area. There's no need for that. Leave the siren for when you reach the actual road.
I wonder how much people pay there to hear that obnoxious thing at all hours.
A lot of newer complexes have systems where you need to hit the siren to activate/open the gate. You think the apartment complex is going to give a remote for each ambulance TCEMS owns?
Thats kinda of a perk of the apartment tbh.
0:29 That report is hot af.
That seems like a poorly planned idea. We had six new stations built in our city over the past few years, three on existing sites. Short term we were set up in demountable buildings at the back of fire stations (in Australia EMS and FD are two distinct entities) and at one we rented a spot in an industrial estate while the new stations were built.
EAs
Wouldn’t expect anything less from methed out Texas
Appartments to threaten to tow an ambulance and deny supporting public safety? unnaceptable
Smh
We send money to Israel while our EMS system falls apart. America when will we say enough?
Hahaha grassdale manor tx
this is what happen when you elect a liberals
Wahhh waaaah waaaah
Dernisha 😂 Peak diversity hire name.
Connor, peak basic white guy name 😂
@@saltylid242at least he can get a job
@@battlesqueak5838you can literally see her at work in this video
@@literalantifaterrorist4673
Yes, hired because of her race and/or gender.
At least Connor gets hired because he actually deserves the job and is the best person for it.
@@Perseus7567 i love how you immediately assume they’re incompetent because she’s either black or a woman
As Texas continues to erode...
Texas? This is a city problem. Not a state problem.
@@chazman4461well, Texas may not be eroding, however, as of today March 5, 2024, it is indeed burning, literally. At least the Upper Panhandle is. I know people personally who live in that area, and have told them they should have a big out bag with all the necessary supplies, just in case they are told to evacuate.
This was in the suburbs loool@@chazman4461
No place is safe anymore...get over it.
Vandalizing ambulances? You stay classy, Austin
Democrats
Average Republican Response@@robertsmalls3513