Launching Rockets Mid-Air
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If you picture a rocket launch, do you imagine it taking off from a hot air balloon? In this episode, we'll learn how using balloons to launch sounding rockets advanced our understanding of planet Earth, radiation, and how to keep astronauts safe.
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In my Optimization in Aerospace Engineering class, my final project was a 50-page graduate research paper on using a rockoon to recover surface samples from Venus. Long-story-short, it seems a one-stage rocket is not feasible, but a small multi-stage rocket attached to a balloon should be able to send surface samples into orbit of Venus... IF the rockoon could survive the extreme temperature, pressure, and corrosiveness of the Venusian atmosphere.
That’s really cool!
Teflon balloons😂
@@JAGFG42 Teflon melts at 327c The surface of Venus is 475c. Won't work.
@@Just_A_Dude The proposed solution is to use balloons made of stainless steel coated in gold or tantalum to resist the corrosion and temperature. From "High Temperature Acid Resistant Balloon" by Eugene Dyadko
Do you think we been toying around too long? shouldn't we have built an intergalactic lab not just one that hovers over the planet like an amusement park? That to me says we are going places. afterall hovering over alien planets even ones outside of our solar system sending probes and feedin
g data back to earth should be the next step yet taken. The talk of habitation on mars when our planet just a couple of generations down the line can end up resembling the mars landscape seems like the wrong direction. just my opinion.
Rockoon is the wimpier sounding alternative name for what should have been called a Ballket
Rock-on is wimpier than ballet? Dunno man, rock stars can be as hardcore as any ballerina.
Not to be mistaken for a RahCoon, which is a marine tactical raccoon.
I think you've won "Worst pun on the Internet" for this post. I just hope someone bests your accomplishment -- I LOVE puns!
Rockoon sounds more like a nickname for Rocket Raccoon
Having taken classes in the Van Allen Building at UIowa, I was very excited to hear the University mentioned! People don't realize there's some cool astronomy happening in Iowa City!
They could fashion a large circular structure and from there attach a set of smaller balloons. This would allow for an empty space between said balloons and make the whole thing reusable. Combine this with a multi-stage rocket and I would imagine something pretty impressive and relatively cheap.
Rockoons are now my favorite type of launch vehicle. Thank you sci show!❤
The Deacon rocket is pronounce like Deacon Jones' name I believe if you even know who that was.
Rhymes with speak-in
@@expfcwintergreenv2.02 This old fart well remembers the Deacon launches. "Deacon" was pronounced DEE-kuhn, with the stress on the first syllable, as others have pointed out. Otherwise, solid video, folks!
Love it! I me Van Allen at a graduate student's space weather talk. At the time, I had no idea who I was conversing with. What a giant!
"Rockoon" is also a Tangerine Dream album (unrelated perhaps but true none the less).
I get the impression Rose really enjoyed doing that intro!
4:49 "but it never took off"
virgin orbit comes out of retirement: Am I a joke to you?
Rocket Rockoon...😊😊😊
Shades of Bruce Sterling’s “Red Star, Winter Orbit”!
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People do this in TotK all the time 😀
Thus inspiring the Baetles hit song "Racky Rockoon"
Love you Rose! Keep on being awesome!
Eager to watch this, I've been dreaming about doing this since I was a kid!
I had this idea as a kid as a way to skate faa payload regulations for my indy space program.
Interesting
You should do a video about the Soyuz spacecraft.
Loving you on the Oregon Coast, USA
anyone else start making up lyrics to “rocket rockoon” absent mindedly? no? just me? heyyyy rocket rockoon! how did you zoom? from a balloon! heyyyy rocket rockoon! shoot for the moon! take off go nyoom!
no? just me?
dee con, deekun, tomato, tomahto. A deacon is achurch leader by the way, Rose. :P D-con is rat poison. :P
I've always wanted to try this with hi powered rocketry, but TRA and NAR rules prohibit these kind of launches.
International. Waters. Let's go!
@randybugger3006 hmmmm, it could work. There is just that pesky Rouge Chinese spy Ballon thing we might get accused of at that point.
We need a Kerbal mod for this.
I just like the term Rockoon. It makes me think of something from guardians of the galaxy mixed with a Pokémon made from rocks and coons…lol
Thank you Rose
Old Super Loki darts are actually available online for rocketry enthusiasts or anyone that wants a Mil-Spec suborbital COTS sounding rocket solution to getting a small payload of scientific equipment up to space past the Karman line. You do need to be able to buy the materials for and have the ability to safely and effectively make the motor propellant itself though. The propellant consists of several components that are difficult to obtain for obvious reasons.
I did this in Zelda a few times I think
Amazing rhanks for this video
The twist stage….theyre evolving
this is a path towards building a true cosmic vessel. The amount of cargo that could be put in orbit using balloons that reach the upper stratus then using conventional rockets to reach a construction site high above earth where a vessel designed to explore the farthest reaches can be accomplished in this manner and the thought of landing a ship on an alien landscape is far from reasonable where a balloon descent then return from another planet towards an awaiting mother ship is reality. as well as using them to catch a returning ship as opposed to just dropping like a rock dependent on a heat shield.the ultimate program that signals a direction leading to success is a sky hook using balloons to lift cargo and personnel to the height that would make a sky hook or elevator plausible without the use of computer graphix. Like I mean for real not sci fi. But like all things complicated it would take a slew of engineers who aren't into using outdated carbon fiber for constructing submarines that implode under water and when warned about go "Naaaah". it can happen. but you know, greedy people and organizations, they just want the money then run.
Rock on!
I wonder why isn't the X-15 considered a rockair :)
please do a story on rockgulls: rockets launched from seagulls.
I'd have thought that would be a story on how seagulls learned to avoid rocks thrown at them . . . .
Wasn't the X15 a "Rockaire"?
Curious why we don't cut down on the amount of energy needed to get rockets into space by building them on mountains and letting them slide down on tracks with a jump at the bottom where the rockets can than ignite and use the momentum for an easier lift off.
@@michaelenquist3728 oh, well im gonna go watch that music video right now than.
Something similar has been proposed: launching rockets with a pogo stick on the launchpad. It sounds stupid but it increases the payload to orbit by 1%
Cool
And all that in metric, yay! :D
What does a sounding rocket sound like?
I'm from Van Allen's hometown!
Based on the order, it should be called a balloocket
Take love from Bangladesh
I initially thought this was a TotK video.
I suspect that's the origin of the naming "Rocket Raccoon".
Using object in orbit, can you get a rocket the last like 40 miles from the space balloon and then speed it up to orbital velocity using a velocity boost from something already in orbit?
I'm curious: what is the production process like that nobody heard the video before release and mentioned "that's not how you pronounce 'deacon'"? It's Dē' kən (DEE cuhn), stress on the first syllable. There was a song "Deacon Blue" of many years ago, or the Demon Deacons, the nickname of the sports teams from Wake Forest University.
So is this where Rocket Raccoon got his name from?
I'm not sure if I should be singing "Rocky Raccoon" or "The Star Spangled Banner"!
How did I not know this was a thing?
Go Go Sci Show!
Can you do a video on Japan releasing the "treated" Fukushima water into the Pacific? I haven't found any good content explaining the ramifications other than news video potentially being hysterical.
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Hmm, how about a blimp-launched rocket? For more control.
A Rockapult is a rocket launched by a catapult.
Represent from UIowa
Cmon airship rocket pad 🤞🤞🤞🤞
I always dreamed of something like this 🤩 did they ever achieve orbit?
The ISS is at 400km so 6500km is definitely orbital distance. But I think STAYING in orbit takes some finesse to get trajectories right.
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Wonder how large of a magnetic field array we would need to install between the sun and earth to be as effective as the natural magnetic field?
Why would we need to"
Within 3 days!
Firing rockets with raccoons? Sounds awesome 😅
Could they have a rockoon that is attached at the top by a cable to a helicopter above the rockoon? That way the balloon could be “steered”. But I’m sure someone already thought of that
The maximum altitude of the balloon is several times that of any helicopter. However, replacing the balloon with an airship (presumably unmanned) would be a long the lines of your suggestion. Side note: rockets are sometimes launched by jets, the largest of which (by wingspan) is called Stratolaunch.
It would be possible to steer a balloon, just as airships are steered, but it would dramatically increase costs.
Given the balloon is single use, it wouldn't be financially viable. Unless it was possible to make recovery and reuse feasible?
@@helentee9863 I think balloons can be "steered" in the sense they can move up and down to move into different wind streams, but since balloons have zero airspeed you can't actually steer them in the way a plane or airship steers (which have some airspeed).
Also aerostats! Basically satellites, but the balloon's still there.
Chinese Spy Balloon ®.
With optional rocket.
Deacon... where I'm from... doesn't sound like "D.Con."
Fellow true scientists know all about the sounding rockets
The Rockaire should be spelt Rockaer?
"Sounding Rocket", huh? Ouch.
Rockoons are certainly cool, but I hate it when they get into my trosh cons.
My firsr thought was that portmentau was a... choice. Then ya said 70 years ago and yeah, that checks out.
This can be used to launch an Orion spacecraft to reduce the fallout.
It wouldn't necessarily reduce the fallout -- it would simply spread it out over a larger area. And as someone who lived through the era of above-ground nuclear weapons testing and leaded gasoline, I think we've done enough damage, both to our environment and ourselves.
@@johndemeritt3460 It can reduce the fallout because the number of explosions to get to space can be made very small, if you launch in the upper atmosphere, and with appropriate reflectors that detach from the spacecraft, you can reflect most of the fallout directly out into space, so it doesn't settle back on to the Earth. I agree that the total fallout must be below a tenth of what the nuclear testing era had, but with modern nuclear explosions, you can make them very clean. Reconsider your prejudice, it can be done effectively with no harm to the public, if you are careful to oversee and regulate, and measure the environmental impact. It's certainly better than burning hydrocarbons for each space launch.
Rockoon? That's what I used on TOTK to gain enough height
All ive learned from this video is that racoons can do a lot more than dig through trashcans /j
Why not use a drone? like take off space x does except its literally already in mid air. youd be able to design it to shoot in any direction.
I cannot be the only that clicked on this video expecting a rock typhoon 🌀 🪨
Try those guys slinging rockets... after spinning.. tell em I said to change the rocket shape to more bullet sputnik ish.. may inverting bullet as orientation going to be an issue.. think rifling.. is that a word..
Looks like i gotta make a rockoon in legend of zelda: tears of the kingdom!!!
Seriously most of the ground breaking ideas happens in the 1930’s. Hot air balloons have been here for centuries. Push for a better future using the past.
The video was about helium balloons
and so Rocky Rockoon, fell back in his room, only to find Gideon's bible...
I wonder if the Rockoons could help collect space junk and prevent Kessler Syndrome.
Here’s is a more recent Rockoon test from Zero 2 Infinity czcams.com/video/DMYR-15EVOI/video.html
Rocket raccoon 😂
Anyone else this was going to be about raccoons on rockets 😅
Shout out to Tears of the Kingdom
"Deacon" is actually pronounced dee-kn!
A Rackoon is a Rockoon piloted by a racoon.
She's cute. Intelligent.
yea..."ballket" just sound wrong 🤔🤷
Why don't we build big donut balloons, with heat shielding & a hole in the middle to allow the rocket through.
💡Because that would be too smart for them to do, and it would make it hard for them to explain the billions of dollars going into their pockets!💥😂😂😂👍👍
@@catherineharris4746 Or because Aero and thermodynamics doesn't want you to do that 😂
Isn't it pronounced "deek-in"?
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Is it not pronounced "Dee-cun"?
Raccacoonie ??? 🦝
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Please tell me dee-KON is the correct pronunciation and that this woman is not so fantastically ignorant of the Western tradition that she can't pronounce Deacon
China was just trying to launch a rocket and the Americans shot it down.