Vocal Coach Reacts | Uranium Suite & Tragic Fact (openings) - Ride the Cyclone
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2023
- I have really fallen in love with this musical! React to not one, but TWO different openings to Ride the Cyclone!
Missed my other Ride the Cyclone reactions? Here ya go!
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Noel's Lament
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What The World Needs
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Actually I believe Karnak couldn't tell the kids about how they were going to die because he was set to family fun mode. I think he actually explains it in the beginning of the show
“Apparently being told the exact time and place of your death with your family at a fairground with your mouth stuffed with corn dog is the very *opposite* of fun” I believe.
The fact that he would've told them to not ride the cyclone if he was able to but he couldn't tell them. And I think why he told them to ride the cyclone was because he was owned by the fair and they used him as advertisement so he likely said "be sure to ride the cyclone" after every fortune he told.
The fact that Kholby Wardell (noel's actor) had to learn like ten iterations of this musical because he ended up sticking through all the different professional versions of the show in those few years.
How many did Emily Rohm stay for?
@@bexelles7483 Emily began performing for all of the iterations when they came to the U.S.
@@Colbys.emohair okay, thank you!
Tragic Fact was one of the first openings so that's actually one of the early casts, before the usual one you've been reacting to. Kholby has been there as Noel from the beginning and played the role for I think 9 years
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Kholby actually played the role for 13 years! He was the actor for noel from 2008 till the 2021 cast album (with him only not playing the role at the jungle theater production)
Karnak tells them to "Ride the Cyclone" because it's programmed advertising for the park! Every fortune ends with (and ultimately his last words are) _"Be sure to ride the Cyclone."_
Fun fact: Uranium City is a real town. It's population is like 92 people...
Soon to be 93 when I move there qnd live out my cyclone themed choir dream 😋😋
@@alilcoffeecake6866 can i come 🥺🥺
@@Sentient_dumpster_fire Okay hear me out, i join and we find 3 more people to join the choir 🤭🤭
@_1Jane.Doe1_ I'll gladly join!
i don’t sing but i’d gladly make the uniforms
Overall Fall Fair Suite is my favourite, but Uranium Suite has my favourite line out of all of them with: 'earth is sky and sky is ground. Did we finally leave our town' which is just chilling
Fun fact about the cast recording - Lillian aka our fav Alto Constance did Sugar Cloud in one recording!
That’s amazing! She’s sooo talented!
Karnak was unable to tell them because he was set to “family fun mode” and could not tell people their deaths any longer. He was programmed to suggest the cyclone as the parks self advertising. It wasn’t premeditated murder. Hope I helped!
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Pretty sure at least one person has already said so, but Karnak couldn't tell them they shouldn't board the rollercoaster because he was set by the carnies to 'Family Fun Mode' to keep him from telling people when and how they would die because being told when you'll die is like. Totally unfun. He could only say things like 'Your lucky number is 7, you will soar to great heights, Be sure to ride the cyclone.'
I just love the line ‘I did not feel safe at all’ from Ocean, so fall fair suite is definitely my favourite
Same! I also feel like it's the opening that introduces us to the characters the most :]
You also can kids get the feeling that ocean is like the “ leader “ in a sense sense she’s like the first one two have a longer monologue in the song + you get to get a feel of the character’s personality’s because they have those short sentences in the song
Fun thing about 11:07 is that they are gesturing to a 6th choir member, Jane, it is literally the choir never complete.
I absolutely love tragic fact narratively. While I do love all of the openings, I’d personally rank Tragic Fact/Uranium Suite the highest narratively and am glad the changed back to it. But I do love Fall Fair suite and Waiting For The Drop, and I’m glad they kept the “When your sailing through space-“ as it’s also my favorite part.
I missed that!!
I was so confused, but that's so cool, and it makes so much sense!
So, does this confirm that Jane was originally part of the choir?
@@trashking471 In this version yes! Though since it’s not in later versions, Jane being in the choir doesn’t need to be confirmed, though highly implied by the photos and videos shown as there is a 6th choir member whose face is not shown
My list :)
1. Fall fair suite
2. Uranium suite
3. Tragic fact
4. Waiting for the drop
Agreed 👍🏼
Agreed 👍
Fun fact, in the production from Tragic Fact and earlier productions Ocean’s song was completely different, her song was called “Play to Win” and was a gospel type song. Unfortunately I think it’s lost media because no matter how much I’ve looked it up there’s only a short fragment of it on CZcams.
There’s also a stitched up version that is partially sung by Kholby from what he remembers (I think)
The rest of 'Play to Win' has been found!!
Forgot to say that cut songs and old versions form 2015 have been found as well!!
Ricky originally was not mute or disabled in the original show(early ver)
He isn't mouthing, he's singing. The characters changed quite a lot from when that was recorded.
A little background on the development of the show might shed some light on Tragic Fact, Waiting for the Drop, Fall Fair, and Uranium being the way they are.
So, back in 2008, Ride the Cyclone entered workshops and then previews a year or so later. Even until the off Broadway debut, and still after, the show’s writers were trying to just finish the show so they could work with motifs, melodies, choreography, and characters especially. In the very early days, there were more characters, though they’ve been pared down and merged. Noel got some stuff from another character, a romance dynamic got used for Mischa, and I can’t fully remember what was up with Ricky originally but he got a couple characters’ traits mushed together.
Long story short, parts in some songs were inconsistent because they were from before a change got made or alluded to dialogue that got cut or changed. It seems that Tragic Fact needed to be reworked a bit, so the creators temporarily shelved it and used some other lyrics lying around from the workshop days to create Fall Fair Suite and Waiting for the Drop, reusing a lot of lyrics and movements of the song. These ran for a while, the writers figured out what did and didn’t work with what they wanted, and then more or less remade Tragic Fact a final time with some new instrumental and better harmonies. There are some things that seem to be missing in one iteration that came back the next go around. Apparently it was really in flux, but since it’s the opener it’s hard to make that concise, set up details, and still work with character reveals later. The lyrics were tightened up, and around this time most of the characters got better dialogue treatments, Ricky’s song changed slightly, and Jane got her flying trick.
There have been more changes over time, though, despite the show having basically been done writing in 2016 and done composing fully by 2018. More dialogue changes have been made, too, a lot of them cuts or just changes for change’s sake. A few lines are better in my opinion, though many feel too ham-fisted or don’t pay off until way later. For example, in the newest script, Constance has a hilarious callback joke in regards to the improv duo she’s now in with Ocean. Ocean scripts them, but Constance changes the ending. The first instance of the improv feels less nice than the payoff, sadly, but it does lead into Ocean’s number with the right mindset. I’ve only read it, not seen it acted out, so I can only comment from afar. 🤷
All in all, the show’s gone through a lot over the years. I’m tempted to make a video on all the changes and controversies over the years.
Edit: I can’t believe I forgot Waiting for the Drop was a thing. Though when this order was explained to me, that song was left out. Hooray for misinformation!
Sorry for the wall of text that is peppered with speculation by the way. Like I said, it’s a lot 😅
You should totally make a video about it! I'm sure a lot of us would love to watch a video like that.
Yes, the Noel is still Kholby Wardell (he’s been in the Ride The Cyclone cast since the original production which is the one you watched for Tragic Fact)
While Fall Fair is my favorite, Uranium Suite is an extremely close second, it gives me chills every time
I recommend listening to “Be Safe, Be Good” from the Ride the Cyclone soundtrack. It’s not used in the show, but it’s still a really beautiful song that made me cry.
Actually, it was used in the show! Strongly recommend you to listen to Seattle audio where "Be safe, be good" was part of "It's not a game/it's just a ride."
@@RyanHawk15 !!! Thanks for letting me know!
@@Bliffenstimmers You're welcome!!
I need to tell you to clear it up Karnak was a fortune telling machine set to family fun Mode because he was created to predict the death of anyone he sees but when he was set to family fun mode he still had his powers but he was unable to express it
That “ coo chi chi co coo coo coo” is the cart going up on the rails climbing the hill. It’s actually terrifying that beat.
It makes me uncomfortable
Ooh, I'm glad I found this! I kept checking but just decided to check the community tab and yay! I saw this exact production way back in 2013 (Uranium/Tragic Fact) so I've been a RTC fan for a decade now. I'm so glad that it's become popular now. I know it's jarring to see a different cast than what you're used to, but the Canadian cast c. 2013 was great imho. though I love how it evolved since then.
The show had changed since I first saw it at the Citadel with this cast, (Ocean had a completely different song that had more of a gospel tone) but the core story was the same and Ricky was still mute and had crutches. If I remember correctly, in the actual show he wasn't singing along to Uranium (unless the newer production created a Mandela effect for me, but I don't think so because I remember wondering why he wasn't singing) and my theory is that for this promotion video (which included both this and Sugar Cloud) they had him sing along, maybe to avoid that minor spoiler? The person speaking at the end was the beginning of an interview with Kholby (the Noel we all know and love who as other commenters pointed out had been with the show since 2008) and the actor that played Ricky.
Since it was such a long time ago, I don't remember a lot of this production, but I feel glad that I got to see how it had evolved between it's run in Canada before gaining traction in the US. This production also used a puppet for Karnak, which I think is cool whereas later productions he's in a costume.
Anyway, your question about Karnak and "did he kill them?" I don't think so. He could only see their future and was programmed to be unable to say anything. My theory is that because of his settings he had no control about telling them to 'ride the cyclone' and this whole thing is because he felt guilty about it. But also I think that since he saw their futures, I think he also saw where they would be going in the afterlife. My theory is that he saw everyone but Ocean going to 'the Good Place' and he set up the whole the whole thing to give her a chance to redeem herself so she too could go to "the Good Place" and by doing that he would also be redeeming himself before he too, dies. That's why he kept changing the rules to mess with her because he couldn't say it outright but he knew that if she had more time on Earth she would've eventually learned to be less selfish and so he gave her the opportunity to make her last act in this 'in between' place a selfless one in order to save her soul. Like she says, "You knew all along that I couldn't vote for myself." Anyway, it's just my little theory.
My favourite opening is "Uranium Suite" on the album, but my one criticism of it is that it doesn't have Jane's riff on it like the others do. My second favourite is "Tragic Fact" because I like the eerie, haunted carnival instrument arrangement when it's switching between Uranium and Tragic Fact. I like that Uranium Suite on the album borrows from it though with some of the melodies, so I think that's why it's my favourite. It took the best parts of the previous songs (minus Jane's ahhhh ahhh's - which I miss) and combined them.
Fun (Tragic) Fact: Uranium City, Saskatchewan is basically a ghost town. They would've never had a Taco Bell or mall because it was such an extremely remote area - I think you could only get there by plane/seasonal ice roads. But like the lyrics in "Tragic Fact" say, people left when they closed the mines and that's why it's a more or less a ghost town now. I'm not sure why they picked Uranium, or if it was just a coincidence that there really was a Uranium, SK. Who knows?
Another fun (Tragic) fact (since you mentioned getting recommended videos about roller coaster disasters):This production was at the Citadel Theatre in Edmonton, Alberta. Edmonton, until recently, used to be home of the worlds largest indoor triple-loop roller coaster called The Mindbender that was installed in 1985. In June of 1986 it derailed and 3 people were killed and 1 was severely injured despite being considered the safest roller coaster in the world at the time. IIRC, the problem was that the maintenance instructions were originally written in German and there was an error when translating to English. After that there had been no other accidents. It is now in the process of being dismantled though because they can no longer order new parts. It's a shame since it had been around almost 40 years and was actually a really fun ride.
I'm so happy you reacted to this, and all the RTC songs! I don't know if you'll get to see this, but sorry for the long comment, I was just really excited to see this! Thank you! :)
ricky wasn't disabled originally the original disabled kid was a cut character nammed hank who used crutches like Ricky now but unlike Ricky Hank was able to talk his whole life also Ocean song was really different with the Canadian cast which sang tragic fact
i loooove kholbys performances as noel hes so good! he played him so long so well
Now all you need to listen to is "This Song is Awesome"
Yes! I've been waiting for you to react to this song, another song that's similar to Fall fair suite and Uranium suite is Waiting for the drop which is pretty good and hope you react to it too!
Did you know that in Fall Fair Suite [if u saw it] Ricky was actually autistic, and non-verbal, so Kholby. [Noel] was singkng both his voice and Ricky's voice. He sang his while Ricky's was recorded. He was non-verbal cuz as Ocean one said, she said:
I got you into the choir, *and you couldn't even talk*.
Okay let me clear a few things up. The video of tragic fact that you had watched was from the 2011-2015 production of ride the cyclone, Which means that not only was the cast different but a lot of the songs were different as well, also in the original production of ride the cyclone Ricky wasn’t actually disabled it wasn’t until the 2016 production where they changed the script. There was another disabled character named Hank in the original 2008 production, but he was eventually cut in 2010. Also the guy who plays Noel is STILL KOLBY. He was apart of ride the cyclone all the way from 2008-2019. That’s almost eleven years! Also I wanted to inform you of ocean’s original song that she sang from 2008-2015. Instead of singing what the world needs, ocean sang a gospel song called play to win. It’s a really cool song and It was just recently discovered. It would be cool if you listened to it and tried to figure out her technique just by how she sounds since there’s no real videos of her performing. It might be a fun challenge
Omg im first! i really love your videos of reacting to rtc
Thanks for watching! Your watching an unlisted video!! Im having trouble with some licensing issues! So you must be very loyal to find me through my playlist!
Hii!!! so you know for tragic fact that was the original cast for the Canadian version then they brought it to the US with the other cast
have you reacted to waiting for the drop? its another opening song!
I think this was before Ricky was written to be disabled ?
I think tragic fact is called fall fair suite
im not getting any real life rollercoasters, and ive been searching up RTC songs 24/7 0-0
I’m months late to the party but it was weird you said it’s not “the cast” because and it’s always fascinated me it happened this way that Tiffany Emily Lillian and Kholby are in most official productions of the show…but weirdly the other two cast members are always different guys. I recommend looking at the Wikipedia cast lists because I find it very funny how those four barely change and the other two is always someone else except I think it’s the 2019 Atlanta cast who came back to do the album (which does include those four)
Oh and Ps Kholby is fully aware of the chaos of everyone on CZcams trying to upload the 2015 one Everytime it gets deleted. He is also very curious on who even recorded it where did it come from and why is half the stage missing most the time.
We are happy you are here! Better late than never!! Welcome!
Thanks! I’m working my through the rtc videos, and I did mistype above I mean the 2016 not 15 😅
Okay, so hello! This part of Tragic Fact is not my favorite. I had the same look on my face when I listened to it. HOWEVER, listening to the 2015 SoundCloud changed my mind. It is a wrap-up concert of the Canadian Tour and on it is a particular part of the song that is legitimately ear heaven. I highly suggest listening to the SoundCloud as it shows deleted songs too (I think you’ll particularly enjoy the really cool belts Taylor Louderman gets in Ocean’s deleted song “Play to Win”). It’s important to me that you know (my little fun fact) that RTC originated as a cabaret. Each character would perform a monologue, sing their final song, get absorbed by light, and that would be that. It later developed the plot of the children competing when it became a musical which is why it has so many different styles. Sorry this is so long, but I absolutely adore this musical and I love your reactions to it.
TLDR: Please listen to the SoundCloud, it’s so worth it to hear the full Tragic Fact.
I love this tidbit! Thanks for watching! I’ll have to give it a listen. Also, I love taylor louderman I didn’t realize she was ever involved in this project!
@@singwithAshley She was actually supposed to be Ocean in the 2016 off-Broadway cast, but she couldn’t and thus became Tiffany who I love wayyy more as Ocean! I think in the recording it’s actually Rielle, (sorry, I get them mixed up a lot), but there are some very obscure recordings you can find with Taylor.
Hi! Strange question, maybe, but would you be open to doing reactions/analysis on musical stuff in languages other than English? I've really fallen in love with a couple of non-English things recently (German and Russian stuff), and there's some songs in there that I'd love to hear your thoughts on, just on like. what's going on in them in terms of the singing itself, but I understand if doing that is out of your comfort zone and you'd rather keep things limited to a language that you and your audience speak (though i could probably find, for some of them at least, videos with English subtitles). Just thought it wouldn't hurt to ask, in case I get lucky, you know?
Hi there! I love different languages! I’m learning mandarin currently but watch most of my shows in foreign languages! I absolutely love breaking down other songs in different languages and love that I have an audience interested in that! Put some links below and I will take a look!
@@singwithAshley ooh, Mandarin sounds interesting! I have a long list of languages I'd like to learn someday (some because they might be useful where I live, others because they're related to my first language, and then some simply because they seem interesting), although I'm very bad at actually getting around to it
Okay, to be clear, I'm not expecting you to do literally all of these, you can pick and choose of course, but here's a bunch of songs for a few different things I've been into recently (three out of four are straight-up fantasy, and the one that isn't is historical with heavy fantasy elements; yes I'm a complete nerd). For the Russian ones, I'm listing them here by the names they're usually known by in the English-language fan circles
From the Austrian musical Elisabeth, which is a historical fantasy musical centered around the life of Empress Elisabeth of Austria, I'd love if you could check out
Ich gehör nur mir: czcams.com/video/SPcy18zYcs4/video.html
and Die Schatten werden länger reprise: czcams.com/video/ihwHC8xCTnc/video.html
From the Russian Lay of Leithian (an adaptation of JRR Tolkien's tale of Beren and Lúthien), the songs
Hey Hop: czcams.com/video/Gc2wpdKZTtk/video.htmlsi=dmPic-_3nejQkQ5R
Menegroth (this one has English subtitles, so do turn them on!): czcams.com/video/4nR84VV4xgI/video.htmlsi=8Zd5_Ee-lFeUrBGF
Halls of Mandos (again, video has English subtitles if you turn them on): czcams.com/video/CgcUqZ5FJqI/video.htmlsi=q4ZTRnenYjyoEbSi
From the Russian Finrod the rock opera (also an adaptation of Beren and Lúthien, but with a different focus and approach than Lay of Leithian has)
Meeting of Beren and Lúthien: czcams.com/video/GVMyLItTqmI/video.htmlsi=Vq_J-sWi5FuuNmSt
Truth: czcams.com/video/lPsIJSMZtxg/video.htmlsi=Rm0a9XPeocig-qoc
From the Russian musical The Last Trial (based on the Dragonlance Legends trilogy, by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman, but with some major changes)
Temptation by Compassion: czcams.com/video/fepQmP5ajQw/video.htmlsi=aWumRe0bx7HOxEpk
Isis Under the Veil: czcams.com/video/VdvKSQB1v3I/video.htmlsi=yf59Paw6h2SKdQCr
Renunciation: czcams.com/video/N7-juElhxqk/video.htmlsi=sjCqQgpK6OClV7LR
Lmao I didn't like it at first either but it grew on me
Oh also, in some versions, they take away all of Ricky's disabilities even making him a non-mute
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PLEASE I need you to listen to Play to win (Oceans- old song that was lower and more gospel toned which is why this ocean's voice is so low) and Small things become big things in RTC the original cast :D
First I’ve heard of these!!
@@singwithAshley fast reply :0, yeah theyre hidden in the deepest parts of the internet as there werent any official recordings of the old cut songs from the start of ride the cyclone, such as why you couldnt find tragic fact with the usual cast, it was replaced by the time the usual cast came around (yes that was kholby playing noel, he played noel in all of the official productions :> ) U-R-A-N-I-U-M was also an intro song noel sounded amazing
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dhalia on youtube has a playlist of the old cut songs
@@cajun2106 I’m always watching! Haha I love nerding out with you all!i may have to dig! Thanks for the heads up!
I love ur videos btw the rtc ones helped me improve singing, i dont even know how
@@singwithAshley if u need help finding them (dhalia🎢) has a playlist of the old rtc songs
NOT YOUR SLANDER TO THE OG CAST….
I love tragic fact just for the pure depressing nature of it? Like it wraps around to Constance’s song very nicely
Bro was hating the og cast 😭🤚🏾 I don’t support that. But to be fr tragic fact is one of my favs so it lowkey was like damn when you didn’t really like it. Love your vids tho
Awe i totally get it! Sorry to disappoint but glad youre here! Is there something you’d like me to react to to make it up to you?
@@singwithAshleycan you react to some of the songs from falsettos?