Extra Turns 02 w/ DJ, Kyle Hill and Ashlen Rose | Commander Gameplay | Magic The Gathering EDH
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Show Notes:
It's time for another epic Commander battle! Josh is facing off against DJ (Jumbo Commander on CZcams), Kyle Hill (Because Science on CZcams) and MTG Cosplayer Ashlen Rose.
It's Roon vs Akiri & Tymna vs The Locust God vs Oona, Queen of the Fae. Who will come out on top? Watch and find out!
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Ashlen Rose:
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Credits:
Directed by: Josh Lee Kwai
Edited by: Josh Lee Kwai and Terry Robertson
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Not even 2 episodes into this series and Josh already died to infect.
But this time it wasn't Craig.
An_AverageJoe ugh...
It was quite satisfying.
@@JumboCommander Love infect and your content, both on your channel and what you've contributed to on The Command Zone!
As nature intended. (DJ and Craig start a new podcast: Dies to Infect.)
I had so much fun; this game was epic. THE SWARM SHALL RETURN - kH
They did you dirty, your turn was amazing it would've been awesome to see it come to it's fruition.
Your deck was amazing. Thank you for introducing me to Dream Halls.
Worst part is if jaces was still out instead of the locus you might have been able to recoup from it. They did you dirty on the deal.
Hopefully you get a second shot at showing us that deck
Your deck gave me so many ideas for my Niv Mizzet deck. Thanks!
I loved your deck and you and the command zone are my favorite CZcamsrs and I was so excited to see you on some episodes
Kyle's Dreamhaul turn has to be one of the craziest turns of Magic I've ever seen!
Fantastic episode!
I'm so glad that you like this show MTG Muddstah! I am a huge fan of your show and was wondering if you watched this!
Nice to see the master of generic goblin noise show up here!
Was your comment said in a generic goblin voice?
Look at this handsome Goblin sharing some love.
Right??!
The amount of bling in DJ deck shocked me, he likes the bling.
yeah its almost as if he thought "what deck could i build to cram as many Kaladesh Inventions in as possible?"
The promo Stoneforge Mystic hit the table and i was like 😯😯😯😯
@@mintspears6714 I have it also. The art on that is just one of my favorites ^_^
Apparently Jumbo refers to the size of his bank account.
@@mintspears6714 Promo stoneforge mystic was actually the cheapest one I could find when I bought mine, thanks so someone listing a Good condition one.
Extra Turns: the show where everyone goes off at least once per game
and it was beautiful
Yeah, I think that's what makes a great ep
This is what Commander is all about (and what makes it great!)
I'm down with popping off in a game.
I like how extra turns seems to be a slightly less strain than Game Knights is (Josh, dude. Don't overwork yourself) and I love the "Scott Pilgrim Vs the World" KO sound.
Keval Ashara the KO reminds me of Street Fighter IV, personally.
And the TF2 Victory exclamation was a nice surprise.
It is the street fighter sound, isn't it?
Anyone old enough will know that's the KO from Street Fighter 2
Omg, these are legit the best guests you've EVER HAD in one Episode!!!!
Yea although Prof + Wedge on the same episode was impressive
Replace Kyle with Cassius
@@michaelgierusz5754 no way! Kyle is a boss
@@ScantraXX2 He's so cringy lol
YES! YOU GUYS FINALLY GOT DJ TO BE ON THE COMMANDZONE PLAYING COMMANDER!!
Finally Dj hit the table !
Still not on game knights though, but we will take what we can get!
Yeeeees!! Finally!!!! We all waited for this to happen!!!! ^^
First appearance and he forgot his commander is lifelink
And showing he sure damn knows how to bling a deck...
- I play Avatar of Woe.
- WHOA
This is the only acceptable reaction whenever someone casts Avatar of Woe. Ever.
Thanks, DJ.
I don't promise to be great at everything ... but I do what I can.
@@JumboCommander But you ARE great at everything :-)
They also did this during their nostalgia episode
Now this is what im talking about. Epic game guys.
Totally agree!
Kyle and DJ with their decks just SINGING. The engines were rolling. Loved this episode.
I see the reason DJ has never been in an episode of game knights is because he’s too much of a beast to be unleashed.
Second this comment
I was so surprised, I watched his channel before he was on the podcast and for someone talking about loving jank and talking about budget I did not expect that deck.
@@CrypticBore True, he loves jank, but he was always realistic about the power level of these cards.
You could totally see that he knew which cards and strategies are the more effective ones in our format, and I was sure he was going to show up with a good deck to stop Josh... and he did it :D
Release the beast that is DJ!
Even though Kyle got knocked out first his last turn was spectacular.
It took all three of us and a lot of luck to keep him from closing out the game.
he went out in the best way for an Izzet player to go - In a Blaze of Glory
Now i want to build an izzet wheel Deck... But probably with nivmizzet parun as Commander from the start
Knut Walfisch I know this is late but I built a budget Parun deck and it works WONDERS! So much card advantage!!!!
And i wonder why locust god is expensive 🤔
I actually like the pacing and the power of these decks. Both GKs and ETs have their respective audiences, but I feel that GKs follows a theme (Tribal, playing decks the person is known for, sponsored products, etc.) and ETs feel like higher power commander that isn't quite to the level of cEDH.
Because the average power per deck is higher, you can assume that most people interested probably know what a large percentage of those cards do, considering that higher power = usually higher cost = usually longer time investment has been put into the game, its rules, and higher power strategies.
I really like that you have the visual of the cards on the sides doing whatever the card's effects are doing, but not going in to great detail on what keywords do, why you are making that play, etc.. It just makes the game go faster and makes it feel like a good game of commander instead of a teaching experience, which is good in its own rights.
Of course, misplays, missed triggers, that sort of thing happen and if nobody caught it, it really isn't that bad. Does Kyle win if he remembered a couple draw triggers? Probably not. Does JLK's position get better if he points the grisly spectacle at a non-artifact? No. In the end, this gameplay just feels like a more "normal" way of playing commander and I REALLY hope that more of these types of games, decks, and people come into being because the thought of higher-level, non cEDH (like 7-9 on power levels) decks is AWESOME. :]
Jordan I mean I think the extra turn decks are like the ones at the start of game knights.
11:56 DJ takes his own advice from the podcast and *doesnt accept the first deal.* He immediately throws out a counter offer. Way to practice what you preach!
It was well done, still probably got to do what he was going to do anyway
I hope extra turns sticks around. It’s nice quick content that requires less strain on the editors. Keep it up Command Zone!
You mean less strain on the production team. The post is very elaborated and that takes time.
Uhhm no
@@gysahlgemuse7208 It is *less* strain on the editors than Game Knights, though.
@@gysahlgemuse7208 Eh, part of the editing like the sound bites for life gain/loss or counters popping on creatures could easily be skipped for example.
Grisly says "non artifact", yes? Oops
That locust god deck is brutal
he didnt won because the locust god was not out i believe but yea the deck seem brutal, i honestly thought he had it. Is like the Tolarian Academy of commander, very similar lol.
I was really hoping kyle would manage to untap once more, niv and locust god by themselves would have definitely ended the game then and there with no boardwipes from the others. Still DJ's win was satisfying enough
Josh Fucked him with that reflection mage.
DREAM HALLS is brutal; that was what allowed Kyle to have that explosive turn despite not having Purphoros or Locust God on the field.
Imagine if he had an Ashnods Altar out there! Then infinite draw loop by sacrificing locusts to Ashonds and skullclamp.
This feels like one of the best episodes yet, as everyone had pretty similar power levels, and/or the politicking meant no one truly got out of hand. Also the chemistry between the four felt really good and was a really enjoyable watch.
Now THATS a commander game! Shenanigans where had, board states became crazy, triggers where missed, and everybody had tons of fun! What else can you ask from the best format!?
Slight misplay from Josh 29:35. Grisly Spectacle cannot target scrap trawler. Grisly specifies a nonartifact creature
Also DJ could have gone infinite with Hangarback, Scrap Trawler and KCI, i think... Not sure, tho.
Another minor was one of the earliest activations of Roon, Josh didn't have priority before end step, creature should have been exiled until the end of his turn.
We had a few of those. Extra turns is a little more of a commander game how we would normally play it and this game got COMPLICATED lol, still so fun.
@Bruno Casagranda Neves How did he not have priority before the end step? Priority is passed at the end of every step and phase.
@@MajorlySpicy when he activates Roon, it's already the endstep. Therefore the card doesn't comeback until it's Josh's next endstep.
THIS IS ALL ANYONE HAS WANTED FOR MONTHS
Wait commander or DJ?
Elijah M Thompson both
Meh, no
@@elijahmthompson2313 DJ and gameplay with actual brewed decks
Upon months upon months.
My rundown of the decks:
Kyle's deck was wheely cool, Ashlen's was a bit run of the mill, DJ's was well built, and Josh's deck was too hidden.
Couldn't come up with a good 'flicker' pun.
It'll come to you later
Kyle's deck drew a lot of attention, Ashlen's was faerie scary, DJ had a well oiled machine, and Josh's deck had interactions so small that if you blinked, you missed them.
@@Jordan-dg8tp Though of it. Seemed too long. I like the other ones though! xD
Josh's flickered out before it could really shine.
Twice as nice?
This is one of the most epic, crazy, engine building, swingy games I've seen! Awesome episode, Josh!! :D
Kyle had the GREATEST single turn I have ever seen in all of magic, keep up this series.
Seriously!
Just imagine the same turn, but with Locust God in play ;)
sertaki It would have been game if he had locust god out
As a Locust God player, I fully agree with that :D
@@ihaveasnake He could have played locust god and drawn his whole deck. discard to untap basalt monolith, discard to play locust god, paying the tax with the monolith, then he can just skull clamp to draw his entire deck and win.
oh my God everyone's deck was amazing... what a wonderful game
j sdkjf1 every deck went off atleast once... look at the last 2 gameknights episodes where they felt like complete duds where only a single deck does anything.
zeth fox I dont think thats fully true with the Ravnica Allegiance video. Its true the josh and vinny dont due much but dj was doing a lot. The biggest “issue” in that one is that jimmy had 3 extra turn spells
Although Kyle lost, his deck was still super cool. Another great game!
I love Kyle and that Locust God deck was simply amazing! What a crazy game, keep up the great content guys :)
"Hey Everyone it's DJ"
*Crowd goes wild!!!!*
Finally!! We have been waiting for this!
What Ashlyn and KYLE!?
They were so fun to film with!
I think we all noticed the misplay, missed triggers etc, but i think that adds to the realism of the game. Lets face it, more than once, we have all missed these things but still had an enjoyable experience
My last game an opponent got Hokori, Dust Drinker out while I was tapped out and I didn't realize what was going on. I untapped and played my whole turn before they noticed and reminded me that I couldn't have done half of what I did.
@@mn6334 your opponent should have stopped you as soon as you misplayed. so its on them also
A missed Niv mizzet Trigger when Josh krosan Gripped
@Charles Burkholder Split second doesn't prevent triggered abilities, just spells and activated abilities that aren't mana abilities.
I guess they forgot that Grisly Spectacle can't target artifacts. Oh well, still a great episode!
It didnt
@@behemoth1158 when josh casted it from ashilyns graveyard he targeted scraptrawler.
@@killengoth1450 oh right thanks
I noticed that, definitely funny when they put them up on the screen together. DJ sacked it anyway so technically it didnt die from the spectacle. Lol
DJ's board having more masterpieces than an art gallery
DJ , Ashlen and Kyle ... Good guests 👍
Halfway through Kyle's play around the 19 minute mark I was like, "For the love of God Kyle, science is supposed to cure cancer not cause it!"
Parallel Thoughts is SUCH an underrated card. It's weak to bounce, but I absolutely love it.
DJ, you makin' me crazy, dawg!
At 22:38 you cast your commander using Dream Halls. The problem is that you had no mana to pay the commander tax, which is still due even if you don't pay its mana cost.
As a general PSA: Casting a spell without paying its mana cost does not mean casting it without paying mana. 'Mana cost' in this context refers specifically to the symbols in the upper right hand corner of the card, without regard to extra costs.
For example, if my commander requires me to sacrifice a creature when I cast it, that seems very intuitive that sacrificing a creature would also be due when casting without paying its mana cost. Commander tax is an extra cost in the same way as 'sac a creature'.
I'm sure he knows this, he's a very experienced player, but in the heat of crazy games like this you tend to miss things
In my opinion this was one of the best commander group in the history of this channel. Love the decks, all looked very powerful. Thats how I like gameplay episodes on this channel. (Although I do not mind alternative formats like 2HG here).
Spoiler Alert for those who have not watched the episode yet
Of course Josh dies to infect, because he always falls victim to poison. Mr.Infect (Craig Blanchette) will be proud seeing this kill
Josh you need to stop swallowing poison ;-)
Finally a game with DJ!!!
I enjoy this faster paced episodes. When we watch like commander vs and even game knight we know we gotta really relax and watch. We can fit this in quickly between like classes or a lunch break or something. It's nice for a change but I do enjoy the hour videos. But this is nice.
this was actually really fun. Ashlen's deck surprised me at how good it was. The whole thing was a nice big back and forth.
As someone one who plays a lot of commander I actually prefer the fast pace of extra turns. It just feels more like a group of friends playing commander than a commander show. However I can see the appeal of game knights for players new to the format (or game). Also sweet thumbnail art.
They made an error with Dream halls @22:35. DJ played Tymna for the second time from the command zone without paying the commander tax. Thing is, Dream halls only pays for the cmc, not additional costs.
TheRegisteel1234 I just looked up a ruling for it and I think they did it right, I’m not 100% sure though. It was 601.2F on what to consider commander tax if you want to check
Commander tax is an additional cost. It's not part of the card's original mana cost, which is the only thing Dream Hall's effect replaces.
So, yes, DJ should have paid 2 mana in addition to discarding a card.
I'm glad someone caught that
They also messed up on a grisly spectacle with an illegal target. It says, "nonartifact creature" and Josh attempted to target scrap trawler.
@@ashurlarose6023 but it's a artifact creature
This is EXACTLY the kind of content I LOVE to see on this channel, awesome and original. Thanks for this guys.
I like these way more than game knights because each turn isn't a full documentary!
DJ! Please have him on more often! This series is great, you NEED to make more of it. I love Game Knights, but this is way more enjoyable. Better flow without cutting away every turn for commentary.
I have only 1 think to say: More, best Command Zone Gameplay Video in a while.
I really like the more relaxed fast structure of the video.
Favorite episode so far. This series is the best. More DJ. Don't let him escape!
Extra turns is exactly what we wanted! its almost like the command zone listens to us ;D
Commander Replay would shake his head at the lack of board wipes....
Sometimes you just dont draw them
I picked a deck that was more aggressive on purpose because it's fun to have a lot of interaction in these games.
@@JumboCommander yeah, I'd expect the aggro player to run less board wipes. I'm more surprised that The mill & wheel players didn't run any removal, as normally I'd expect them to be trying to board stall whilst they go off rinsing your deck. Although, I haven't taken into account Michael's comment about not seeing the whole deck. Tymna is such an awesome card, I run her with Bruce Tarl.
LOVE THIS NEW SERIES!!!!
This is such an amazing show and I hope it continues! It's quick pacing mixed with the light hearted jokes gives us the feel of an accelerated home game. Hands down my favorite thing is you center in on each players field when it's there turn combined with the cards on the left hand side makes for easy understanding of the turn. Well done!
I love Kyle's shenanigans and Hey it turns out DJ is pretty good at commander
Ayyy Ashlen Rose! And DJ! And more Extra Turns! Yayyy!!
And Kyle Hill too?!
Yeah this was a good cast this episode.
This was one of the most intense games I’ve seen even throughout all the current game knights episodes. Please keep these up
So epic! Everyone's deck went off and did what it wanted to do! What a satisfying game. (I was rooting for you, Kyle!)
Finally after years of asking dj is on extra turns.
extra turns hasn't been on for years, has it? or have i missed 10 million things
Metalisha it's been our for 2 years.. but dw, you can miss stuff
Wait you know this isn’t game knights right? This is “extra turns” it only has 2 episodes
@@willemboele2079 wait you know this is a joke right? jokes are humorous statements that are ment to entertain people
they didn't really phrase them as jokes, and even if they did they are not very funny ones..
Look at that super nerd, incorporating facts into a condensed commander game
Love the zoomed-in view for each turn, and the onscreen graphics definitely make it easy to keep up. Awesome!
This is one of my favorite videos on CZcams. I think I've watched it at least 10 times, and I just love every single interaction and the chemistry between all players.
A few misplays, yes, but it just makes Extra Turns feel that much more like a casual kitchen table game, which I love.
Damn... Kyle seems to be getting stomped in all the videos he's in lately (geek&sundry etc.). But his engine this game has been nuts. Would have liked to see more of it :p
LepraGnom any more of it and he would’ve won
Not sure if it's been said, but when you use dream halls to cast your commander, you actually have to still pay the commander tax (and any other additional costs). It's definitely one of those things everyone misplays at first.
He casted Locust God from his hand since it was bounced.
@@parkerautry93 I was referring to dj recasting tymna
I literally went *Aaaaaw* when Josh said "Roon, you fought well", it was so cute as if he knew he was about to lose the game, this is the level of fondness for my Commander I desire to reach.
Kyle's "wow" at 32:33 made me laugh more than it had a right to. Great episode. Great gameplay.
There are rumors spreading about a ghost in the dark... beware
Small missplay with Grisly Spectatle targeting artifact creature but still great episode!!
15:30 If Josh didn't have any noncreature interaction spells, Kyle could have won. Mind over Matter, Skull Clamp, and his Commander is a combo to draw his whole deck and play any cards (Dream Halls).
(+ Basalt Monolith for the MoM to target)
Not sure if he's missing it (kinda doubt it given his Science background and apparent love for the deck), or deliberately neglecting it because either 1. He doesn't wanna be that guy this game, or 2. He's scared of the Oona deck, and if he gets stopped he'll die quickly (he's gotta burn half his tokens to get through his deck, then only has half those cards to actually play via Dream Halls, and the opponents can all use the Halls to cast removal on it if they have any more (although they probably would have already done so).
Aha! 19:12 -- there's the K-Grip I suspected. I wonder of Josh would have held it through the Dram Halls, waiting for the Crawler, or not.
This was such a good game! All the guests decks seem awesome, and it was fun and fast paced, reminded me of the early episodes of Game Knights
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR. GLORIOUS DJ GAMEPLAY.
Great speed, cutting and everything!
This game was awesome. This was a true commandergame and with good, fun guest and good decks. And DJ that mardu deck looks really awesome!
That was great, as a novice commander player I could still follow everything very well. only had to pause a few time. Felt like everyone got to go off except maybe josh but he interacted a lot and it was awesome!
this was the best game i have seen so far. its given me so many ideas on how i can make new or current commander decks better. Thanks for doing what you guys do best.
Dj's deck was awesome! And more of gameplay like this, please!
LOVE THE VIDEO ALREADY!!! I really wanted 1 or even more gameplay videos before the year ends :D
This may have been the single most epic game of Commander that I've seen on this channel! Great upload!!!
Great episode! and of course great editing, loved the die appearing on locust god, it was so smooth I had to rewind it and rewatch.
Illegal Target with that scrap trawler and grizzly spectacle. Bad Josh!
Looks like some people noticed some missed triggers. But most importantly, Josh targeted Scrap Trawler with Grisly Spectacle which species nonartifact creature.
Absolutely one of the best episodes from you all in recent months. Thank you!
I continue to be impressed by this type of presentaion style. Great veiwing tempo, fantastic editing, and players who understand what the producers are going for!
Excellent video! I actually really prefer Extra turns style of video over Game Knights so far! The editing is really superb. Keep them coming :-)
Great game! IMO Extra Turns is now so much better than Game Knights, I could take or leave that show but I love this one. It's probably because I already know the game, the rules and the cards, of course.
same. Game knights has too much pageantry for my taste. doesn't make it bad, but this format is much more enjoyable.
yeah its better
its like old skool Game Knights
I feel just the opposite. I've been playing for years but I'm not nearly as proficient as these folks and many others. I like game knights because it's a little bit more about the people and their interactions and not just the game mechanics. Hopefully they keep making both.
@@danacoleman4007 I agree. I like extra turns but gameknights is more personal to me. I hope they keep making both
amazing episode, it seemed so back and forth with DJ and Kyle, I love these kind of games and was done fast enough to not miss triggers and extremely well done as always! Go DJ!!!
I REALLY love the format of this video! It's so much quicker and more fluid. MILES better than the one where you guys freaking commentate on EVERY SINGLE CARD...
So cool to see DJ in action! Really liked the Locus God deck too! Gave me a bunch of ideas! This is the kind of content I can get behind! Please no more precons....
Kyle's turn there was insane!
wow so good
Highly entertaining content! I have got my friends hooked and when we are playing MTG (any format) we end up discussing things from your episodes :)
Thank you for great vids and fun!
This new video editing setup is really good! It's fast-paced and its easy to follow along with the played cards on the side.
Kyle Hill just nets a view and a like every time. Moar Kyle plz
Yes Please! That guy is so cool!
this is such a sweet game. Everybody kind of did his or her thing!
Patiently waiting for the next game! Love the content, it moves so fast in this edit
Great video. Wishing you keep up with this kind of content, Josh. Both Kyle's and DJ's decks were amazing to see.
Seeing my favorite dude Kyle playing my favorite and only commander deck I've ever owned (he's not using mine tho)m LOCUST GOD, is the best!!!
I'm confused how you were equipping the cranial plating during combat at the end there. I thought equip was at sorcery speed?
Antonius Mikuriya Cranial ability cost is not an Equip ability (of course it has that also) so can be played at instant speed. See also Neurok Stealthsuit.
@@TheAntoniusFunk the cranial plating had an equip ability, and an activated ability to attach it, which works at instant speed
EXTRA TURNS!!!!!!!!!!!!
plz more extra turns
This episode brought back one of the reasons we love this channel. Commander gameplay! Really great episode, guests, and decks. Heres to hoping you meet a new editor willing to share the workload with little to no cost so that more episodes like these gets released. Extra turns and pre-sponsored GameKnights are awesome!
This is one of my favorite videos from you guys. It reminds me of the early games. Not that the new stuff is bad, but it was awesome to see non-themed decks with tons of combos smash into each other.
That was so awesome I don't know which deck I want to build
not the one with 50 masterpieces
5 hours in, 2.9k likes, 29k views. Yeah I think this is a successful series.
i like it because there is none of the nonsensical drama that is Game Knights
I think this was the best episode of gameplay yet! Keep up the great work guys!
I love this episode. I think it’s the first extra turns I’ve watched, and I can’t believe I’ve been missing out on this! Way closer to the kind of shenanigans I’m used to seeing at an actual table lol