Neunaber Illumine: Reverb Pedal on Steroids!
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- The Neunaber Illumine has the gorgeous sounds of prior and new Neunaber reverbs all rolled into one compact reverb pedal. I demo 16 of 17 reverb types. Join me for lush beautiful reverbs!
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Video Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:13 Features
1:10 Wet Plugin
2:53 Wet V3
4:25 Wet V1
6:14 Plate Reverb
8:05 Hall Reverb
9:46 Vintage Digital
11:28 Spring
13:07 Shimmer
14:52 Rumble
16:20 Octaves
17:29 Wet+Echo
19:38 Wet+Detune
20:59 Bloom
22:22 Sustain
24:01 Gated Plate
24:37 Swell
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Sounded great! I've always loved their reverbs, glad to finally have all these features to go along with the tones!
Thanks for another cool demo! Always appreciate your take on stuff and your enthusiasm.
This is hands down the very best demo to judge the sounds of the Illumine. Great job Bill, thank you!
Definitely the best demo of capabilities out of the few that are out there. Thank you
Sweet! Ive been waiting for this!
Inspirational playing as usual Bill.
Wow! Great sounding reverb!
Love your reviews
My favorite reviewer
In death covering it all
Well done
Sounds really great!!
That sustain setting!!! Wow!
Sustain is AMAZING! Great guitar tone also. Really nice PRS sir :)
Thank you Bill! I'm sold. I own 5 Neunaber pedals already, a 6th coming soon now!
Great sounding stuff. That and I envy how you can just play randomly, flowing with the groove and experimenting with the sounds.
Great playing and great sound
Thanks!
Perfect guy for Neunaber to contact! Sick
Ha ha .. Neunaber sent me an email about this yesterday and I immediately thought of you Bill .. :-) Glad you got a unit to demo.
Wow, that thing sounds reeeally good.
I've always thought the Nuenaber Wet was the best individual Reverb sound on the market. Now they've taken it to a whole new level!
Finest sounding shimmer reverb in a pedal ever - comparable with some of the expensive rack units. The other reverbs also sound terrific.
Nice job on the demo. I'll stick with my Immerse Mk II, all the ambience I need plus great basic reverbs AND nobs. Pure winner for me.
glad I see your vid guy i don't want to forget u
Sounds great.
It looks like a pager back in the 90s.
Awesome! I hoped one day we'd be able to use his algorithms with presets and MIDI.
Beautiful
Wow that really sounds amazing. I could not think of a better person to introduce this pedal to the world! Thanks for sharing
That is a thing of beauty.
I absolutely LOVE the way Neunaber's Reverbs pedals sound.
I’m really enjoying the Octaves, even now.-thank you
Ps. At times Octaves almost sounded like the guitar was back by a choir. Maybe that was just me?
sounds great, especially if you do a demo.
I love (more) knobs to dial, and not menues.
It looks nice and has the types of reverbs like shimmer that I don't have in my EHX Catherdral but nearly $400 is pricey.
If you want shimmer, look at other stuff. Or Oceans 12.
I love my Cathedral and playing through it despite having higher-end stuff like RV500 and Specular Tempus. Oceans 12 is a mixed bag, though.
I´m happy this pedal is tested by you sir, greetings from Mexico City! Great review!!!
That’s some serious groove you’ve got going on, there. Love it!
Neunaber owns the reverb effect hands down
Thanks for the tones demo
I never thought I'd replace my incredible Immerse ii, but this is amazing sounding! Great demo.
I have the Neunaber Wet v5 - it’s a great pedal and does the ambient thing very well, especially when put with a nice delay or two! I think the idea of the Illumine is cool, but I still use my Big Sky for the midi stuff. Maybe I’m just used to how it works and don’t want to learn another menu-laden pedal. Sounds great though!
I don't think I would trade a BigSky in for this. But if you have budget for both...
Interesting pedal. Great sounds. I like the idea if Midi control for a smooth setup for a set. But no drip in the Spring... I'll take my Oceans 12 as less price and 2 channels parallel or serial and also presets.
I almost pulled the trigger on the 12 a few times. The looks kinda drive me nuts but maybe I can get over it
Neunaber stuff doesn't sound that great in person, in my experience. I'll take my Cathedral and/or Oceans 12 over the Illumine any day.
@@Jason75913 Don't agree....I have the Immerse 2 and it's majestic..it's reputation speaks for itself..
@@patrickr6505 I had the WET Stereo, was awesome, and then I went chasing... unnecessarily...GFI Tempus, sorry not that good and goofy presets / banks. The Ventris, what ripoff and an awful sounding reverb...I think its back to Neunaber… or the Big Sky, leaning that way now
@@johnklimeck Great..🤘
It’s cool, I love their stuff, specially the feature packed Neuron, but the price is pretty high and the amount of menu diving and only having two knobs to set parameters is a big turn off for me.
Illumine is rather presets pedal, You set every parameter as you like and then use as preset, for knobs is immerse
How high is the Price?
@@rm_ohlsen3587 $349
@@jdwilliams202000 $379 Special Introductory Price, MSRP $479
@@bobisadrummer ouch
Already got strymon bigsky.
How does this unit sound with good ole' mono in and out?
Love me some tasty verbs.
Does it have a spillover trail?
did you compare this pedal to eventide blackhole?
Bill would you prefer this over the nightsky or bigsky?
the tine knob is missing, isnt that weird?
Love the lower tuning thing you are doing, what is it? Drop D? Excellent video and playing as always.
Thanks! I am playing one of my baritones, so the tuning is BEADF#B.
Which setting fo you recommend for acoustic guitar rhythmic jamming sir? Thanks. Great video!
I think it would be interesting to play around with the predelay setting to get it in time with your playing. As for reverb type, I think experimenting with any and all would be called for.
The more videos I watch of this amazing musician the more he looks like the actor Stephen Lang.
I'm sure that there are guitarists who need that many types of reverb 6and I'm glad that this exists for them) but I am definitely not one of them.
The variety is composed of algorithms already in other Neunaber products, so this is more of a "Neunaber Collection" for fans. They are a bit samey, too.
I thought this was a reverb effect but I heard delay on some of the presets. How would you compare this to the GFI Specular Tempus?
It is just a reverb. The delay was a pedal that I added from time to time. I mention it a couple of times in the on screen comments. There is a specific Reverb + Delay type though. It's fairly late in the video.
@@chordsoforion Ah sorry. I was mostly just listening to your video rather than watching while I was working. Sorry to bother you.
Were the static sounds heard in this demo you clipping your recording levels, or the pedal?
definitely not the pedal. It is very clean.
I heard it too prominent around 9:18 to 9:35.
Seems like some nice sounds but I couldn’t get through the demo with the static.
Specular Tempus for the win 🏆
if they make a duel engine one, Ill get it. Until then....
Hey, are there any electric harp pedals that are not really known to many guitar players? Emily Hopkins, check her out :), is a harpist...?...Anyway she has some awesome pedal reviews of stuff i’ve not seen before. Wondering how deep that pool was ya know...
This Vs GFI Tempus???!!!
Amazing sounds for sure! I love what you played too. Gave me some influence. An elaborate reverb pedal for sure. But for my delays and reverbs, I have officially decided to stick with Strymon. I've got a lot of gear that I haven't used lately up for sale.
I already have a fantastic reverb on my Fender Deluxe reverb amp. I wonder what this pedal. combined with my Fender amp would sound like?
only one way to find out! :-)
This is not the same use case. A spring tank in a tube amp is cool, but I've never enjoyed them much. These types of pedals can do massive expansive stereo reverb sounds. That's their purpose. Spring mode in such a pedal is only there because a bunch of people who don't get the use case for a pedal like this will freak out if spring isn't there.
I have spring reverb on my Strymon Bigsky, a very good algorithm that's very tweakable. Never used it, I'm all about the massive modulated reverb algorithms like the Cloud setting. I've got two Fender amps with built-in in reverb tanks, and I have actually unplugged the tanks at the back.
Spring is a one trick pony. Lots of your favorite tracks from the 70s used plate reverbs, and the 80s was full of digital reverbs. Now you can get a cheap pedal like the TC Electronic Hall of Fame, or a Boss RV5 or RV7 and experience those sounds, and many even better sounds. Spring is pretty limited and only good for some genres.
Like the Immerse, the Spring doesn't really drip.
@@funkyfurballs1078 If you want spring reverb get a real spring reverb. They aren't exactly expensive or sophisticated pieces of technology and are built onto tons of amps. A pedal like this is for massive ambient sounds that are impossible in the analog domain. If you buy a Strymon Bigsky or Neunaber Immerse only to complain that the spring algorithm "doesn't drip" wtf are you doing?
You're like the people who bought a Tone Bender in the 60s and were disappointed that it did a really bad job of emulating a horn section. Wait I just insulted a bunch of guitarists by comparing them to Keith Richard's 🤣.
In all honesty I didn't think anyone actually bought an Immerse with the intention of using it to emulate a spring tank. Like sure, they threw it in, but the target market would buy that pedal if it had only three algorithms, the Wet, Immerse and Shimmer algorithms. Seriously those are the only ones that anyone should care about. If you want plate, hall or spring, pick any reverb pedal on the market just about. Boss, TC, Hardwire, (if you can find one) just about every major manufacturer does a decent job with these types. The other algorithms on Immerse are good, but they aren't special. It's that Wet algorithm that really makes this thing worth the extra coin.
@@Patrick-857 Hey, no need to get snarky!... Not complaining about the great Wet algorithms or that I wouldn't buy it because the Spring doesn't drip... just stating a fact about the sound and a bit surprised Neunaber hasn't updated it. The Lexicon style Spring of the DigiTech Polara, for instance, is far more realistic... IMO, if you're going to offer a digital Spring reverb, it should at least sound like one.
Do you think this pedal would play well with the Ventris?
Do you mean in addition to the Ventris? Sure - if you like the idea of stacking reverbs.
@@chordsoforion Just wondering if it would be redundant because the Ventris does have the dual reverb.
@@charlarge3555 triple the reverb
MIght have be 2 sec right Bill?
yeah - not even. :-)
This sounds great so far, im curious, does it cut off the reverb as it changes presets or does the reverb trail when you change?
You can set it either way in the global settings.
@@chordsoforion oh thats awesome thanks for the answer!
Nice demo. I don't know... When a pedal starts to behave like a computer, I quickly lose interest. There's a sweet spot in having a finite box in front of you that inspires exploration. I prefer limited options in a sweet form factor over a does everything black box.
I consider ventris to be more flexible, even the specular tempus has more options at slightly lower price, gear is becoming luxury rather than utilitarian tools
The demo sounds great as a straightforward reverb. But it's kind of out of step with most other modern reverbs such as the CB Dark World, which give a range of options the Illumine doesn't offer.
Price wise, it seems like Neunaber spent a lot of production money on the digital readout, which is pretty pedestian. And it's not really informing us of what is going on or giving you a multitude of other adjustments; it just gives percentages, which is already apparent with the dials. The reverb circuit Neunaber made, at least by the sound of this demo, is an excellent one. But I get the feeling that they could have made a cheaper version without the digital reader, and added more modulated sounds that would have given it wider appeal and still deliver a great sound.
I suspect the resale value will not be high for this pedal, primarily because at this price range it appeals to purist and doesn't offer the bells and whistles seen in comparable models, but that would distill down to low interest in buy this pedal at the give price break... I could be wrong, but if that's the case if you really like the sound of the Illumine, you should be able to pick one up for a greatly reduced price next year.
fr, I got a Ventris, and an Echosystem.. There is nothing better than having a duel engine pedal! Just need the GFI one next!
@@DelScully the specular tempus?
Well, for recording you should use the Ventris or Specular Tempus, but who actually benefits from expensive pedals on a stage? Venues typically have poor acoustics and mediocre speakers, cheap TC Electronic pedals will do. You can justifyably write off fancier pedals as luxury, because they sure are at the end of the day. The average listener won't notice that you used a cheap reverb instead of a fancy hi-fi one.
But, is it not important for you to be happy with what you get? 😎
And we want badass reverbs, leading to companies competing to outdo each other, and we get outstanding stuff like the Big Sky, RV500, and Specular Tempus as a result. Neunaber isn't even close to on par, in my experience with the Immerse v1 and Immerse v2.
I had the Neunaber Reverberator. The mix dial just didn't do it for me - you have to turn the mix knob a lot to get a balanced blending of effect and original tone. And the pedal immediately brings down your overall volume as soon as you engage it. Also, if you switch modes while playing or turn off the pedal, the effect sound is instantly chopped off. No nice trails.
So...basically a less-featured Specular Tempus. KEKW
trails? no infinite/sustain switch control to play over?
yes to trails and i mentioned in the video the infinite hold demo is coming in a later video.
@@chordsoforion Thank you
specular tempus ftw
13 seconds? From the guy himself, man you got some balls :) Love your stuff man.
TBH, I find the shimmer on the Boss RV-6 better. Good post though. The 'sustain' was my favourite here. Did you add the delay before, or after the Neunaber?
the delay pedal was before the Illumine.
Nuenabor pedals are great but the day I bought the Big Sky,... everything changed period. nothing else comes close to what the Big Sky does, such an amazing pedal. It launched my guitar playing into deep deep outer space. For people who don't have the Big Sky this pedal looks promising but does it do the huge ambient soundscapes
I have the Big Sky and the Neunaber Immerse MK2. The Immerse can very much do ambient soundscapes. The wet reverb algorithm and the plate reverb on the MK2 are prob my favorite of any of my reverbs. Those are in this pedal too. I'm buying this pedal day one.
I tried both versions of the Immerse in the past. No match for RV500, X-Space, Specular Tempus, or Mercury7, and I sincerely doubt the legendary Strymon can get bested by anything Neunaber any time soon.
Hi,
Beautiful playing and excellent detailed demo, as always. But Wow, what an underwhelming pedal. Basically, a high tech box with very basic traditional reverb sounds. In 2022. Honestly a little disappointed in Neunaber.
So it is the Immerse (MK II)....
But bigger.
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Not sure if I'm the only one who heard it but it looks like you're much influenced by Michael Hedges.
Indeed. You might be interested in my "10 Guitarists that Changed My Life" vid. Hedges is one of them. :-) czcams.com/video/nW9VvHeL0JQ/video.html
@@chordsoforion cool then I wasn't of the tracks! Happy playing to you!
The tones are too dry.
Strynaber, they don’t need to do this…
Superb tones… but too much dialing to get to variations. I prefer labels around the dials versus having to guess where my tone is… I’ll stay with my ($159) MXR Reverb pedal rather than go into debt for another Reverb pedal.
The mxr is very nice indeed
@@johnsmith7140 Using the MXR and Immerse (mostly shimmer) in tandem. Getting great tones.
Pedal sounds great but I’m in love with that baritone PRS 😍
It's so good, for sure!