ENGINEER EXPLAINS WHY TURBO ENGINE IN 2022 TUNDRA WILL LAST ONE MILLION MILES - as reliable as V8
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- Upset about the 3.5L twin turbo V-6 is the new 2022 Toyota Tundra? Automotive Engineer and Toyota veteran David Koichi Chao explains why the turbocharged engine in the new 2022 Tundra will last a million miles and why it's as reliable as the proven V-8 engine in the current Tundra.
Automotive Press is owned and managed by David Koichi Chao, a global expert in the field of automotive evaluation, consulting, and strategy. David is known around the world as an authentic specialist of Lean Thinking or Toyota Production System. Born and raised in Japan, David has an engineering degree from University of British Columbia and post-graduate education from MIT and Harvard Business School in Boston. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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This didn't age well LOL
This aged like milk. You should re-title this "TOYOTA ENGINEER EXPLAINS WHY TURBO ENGINE IN 2022 TUNDRA WILL LAST ONE MILLION MILES - as reliable as V8" to save some face.
Turbo will never be more reliable than a NA engine! It could be a reliable engine but never more reliable than a NA. Cmon
A twin turbo lasting 1 million miles….come on man.
It'll take me 18 to 20 years to total 200K miles. If it's bullet proof that long I'm delighted.
Coming from the Eco boost I just don’t understand how this is possible
@@adamgarcia9839 I had the ecoboost before o bought my tundra… it needed engine overhaul at 47k miles… go figure.
@@michaelbosisto6259 mine only made it to 87k, mostly driven by my wife. Did all the PMs myself and was over the top on them. Luckily we had extended warranty soon as it was fixed traded it in for a sequoia
His credibility is taking a major hit here. A simulated run in Toyota’s clean room does not represent real world use.
Toyota and Yamaha are very similar in many ways. It takes them a long time to come to market but when they put out something new it is done right. Two very strong companies.
Bartender!!! One beer to this señor.
Actually they both have partnered up in early years when the Toyota celica was built in 2000 to 2005 the engine was Yamaha, if you ever get a chance to look under the hood, look on the passenger side on the back side of engine you will see YAMAHA 👍
@@itsjustme4222 No sorry, I would have to beg to differ. The Chrysler Corporation is the best automotive manufacturer to be created.
KIDDING! No way!
Yamaha comes out with a piano and Toyota comes out with the Lexus LC500, uhh I though you guys were supposed to be making the same thing?? Scratches head😳
@@itsjustme4222 True, however that engine was not their finest work, it had a lot of issues which some speculate, including Scotty Kilmer as to why Toyota stopped making that car, I miss it!
On the other hand Yamaha tuned the exhaust not of the Lexus LFA, and that was a huge success 👍
Take care🇨🇦🍻🤙
This didn't age well, tons of engine failures have been reported
Thank you for time and insight...
Thank you for the information! Subbed!
I like to think that the reason Toyota took so long to develop the new Tundra is because they completed the necessary R&D to deliver a reliable engine for this platform… time will tell 🤞🏽
@@americanadreaming welcome to the club
@@americanadreaming You could also buy an F250 with the 6.2 V8. The GM 6.6 V8 and the RAM 6.4 V8 are good as well, but you have to buy an HD. I’m sure the Tundra twin turbo V6 will be bulletproof after a year or two. There is always some minor issues that testing won’t catch. I’m not a fan of the current Tundra with the short van like hood.
Hopefully the transmission and suspension are updated. Too many issues with ball joints and control arms and overheated transmission.
Ding ding ding ding ding.
@@hybridstiger what’s the ding ding sound
This video didn't aged too well. Now we have customers complaining about this engine as well as the fit and finish. No, not a good excuse that the product is new because a lot of rigorous testing takes place before production begins.
Not really..most engines have some issues in the first couple yours..same as the 5.8v8 when it came out.
Less than .1% of the new Tundras have had engine issues. I've had 2 Tundras with the TTV6 and no issues. Just silky smooth and very powerful.
The only complaint I’m seeing is people expected better gas mileage. Fit and finish look for a different video.
@mangravy2000 when you spend your hard earned money , it's not just fuel efficiency , looks but also fit and finish. Confused about looking else where for fit and finish. It's my overall opinion of the product itself
@raymondpoh bought a 2024 tundra..fit and finish is on point...
I think those issues have been solved.
great video thank you for the update on the new 2022 Tundra, i worked with Volvo through the mid 80's to early 90's during their first generation turbo charging and was a learning curve and averaging about 100k miles, these turbos were only oil cooled and never really had a chance to cool down much, often the oil temp was higher than the coolant temp, 2nd generation the turbos were engineered with cooling passages from the engines cooling system and in testing globally the longevity was increased almost 5 fold and increased more with the introduction of an intercooler and 33 bhp increase with only miner fuel economy changes and all of the NA 4cyl engines and turbo 4's well outlasted Volvos 6 cyl engines easily , to this day there are many Volvo turbo intercooler 4 cyl engines running with over 600 or 700k kilometres so there is longevity intro engines, the biggest change today metallurgy for turbos and the bearings in them turbos now are almost 30% more efficient and smaller and make more power with less boost and last twice as long in many cases with lower EGT's also, Toyota tests for longer periods than most companies so they give the owner the utility and reliability that they look for from Toyota and this is why you'll see less of them having issues than allot of their competitors do, in the end it all comes down to what maintenance you as the owner does with the vehicle, regular oil changes and fallow the schedule that's given to you with your new vehicle, if you use it this way you will get a million miles, most of us won't see half of that and will want the next best thing in a car truck or SUV, any company can build a vehicle to last a million miles, the difference between Toyota and them is Toyota lives it, they do the R&D globally and then give it to the consumer German cars no longer dopa good example is Ford 3.5 EcoBoost engines troubles in the early years now there are lots running around with 25-300k miles on them and not been apart, all the V8's of the 50's and 60's needed valve jobs after 40-50k miles and got better when engineering technologies in a few years, its hard to say any new vehicle is bad they all run quite well with the ECU's in them, some have as many as 70 or 80 units in each vehicle the new Land Rover has an average over 70 in each vehicle that is crazy, that is just the way it is, this new engine will be a good, strong reliable power plant for the Tundra, most of you have to stop and just give it the chance 👍
Thank you for the information. You do need to proof read your submission.
I had a 1999 850 T5, I sold it to my friend whose uncle was a Volvo tech, the car still run till today, but she only uses it for short trip (one reason why I think the car still run). I thought oil fed turbo was a genius move. It will be interesting to on how Toyota cool their turbo new V6 in their Tundra.
Excellent information.
Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this! I’m eagerly awaiting the next gen 4Runners! I’ll probably wait for the 2024 or 2025 version, but I’m sure the engine and technology for it will be worth the wait!
I will say that my 2013 tundra with 130k miles still runs and drives like a brand new truck.
187K on my 4Runner and that thing isn't showing any signs of slowing down. I completely agree with you on that.
Neighbor has 2011 Ford 3.5L Turbo (1st gen), has over 185K, it runs and drives like a brand new truck. Never anything other than normal maintenance. I'll grant it doesn't LOOK like a brand new truck, because it's a work truck with paint skinned up here and there, little dings that you don't get at the mall parking lot.
I just finished watching a video of the million mile tundra
Lol and gets 13mpg highway lol. My 6.2 sierra gets 18 city. Got it
My 06 highlander has almost 197k and it’s as smooth as when it was new. Very quiet and smooth v6. We could use a bigger car but the highlander just keeps going strong. Great company.
Great content!! Came here from the Care Carnut Channel.
Thank you for your knowledge
Great info
As a long time Toyota Tundra owner I have complete confidence in their engineering and manufacturing abilities. I venture to say that the majority of owners have experienced above average reliability and satisfaction with Toyota products.
If they are that good, then it's amazing they only sell about 1/8 as many as Ford sells F-series*. Fleets keep meticulous records about cost of ownership. Toyota has virtually zero of the commercial fleet truck business. Ford has close to 50% of that business.
*Toyota built their San Antonio plant with the intent of producing 200,000 per year. Only one year (2007) did they even got close. The last 10 years they've averaged 112,500 per year or roughly half of the designed capacity of the plant.
I agree, can't wait to test drive the new Tundra.
What Tundra do you have though? There are a lot of reported issues with the 2007-2010 5.7L. Valve spring catastrophic failures and the air injection pumps being the main ones. Some of the valve issues were happening under 75k miles and destroyed the engine. I love Toyota, I wouldn't own anything else, but there are plenty of things they don't get right too.
@@oldowl4290 I still own a 2005 Tundra 4.7 with 320,000 miles and a 2021, it's a great truck and I really like it, but due to the current economic fuel trends it is leaving my possession. I will opt for the 3.5 TT some time in the future.
@@kennethreynolds8 I'm shopping for an 05-06 or 07-12. I need a weekender work truck but also want to offroad/overland. I'm leaning to the 1st gen but also like the 2nd gen a lot. I need to compare weights and tow capacity. I know the 2nd gen is heavier and larger but it's not a deal breaker. I do like the 1st gen however from the standpoint of putting in a manual transmission and xfer case. A few people have done it in last 4 years and a few places offer adapter plates now.
very informative videos. Thanks
You're welcome!
Hi David! Thank you for making this video. I have been telling people the same thing! I was wondering if you could walk us through how they prepare the factory for new manufacturing processes like the new TNGA-F frame innovation. Thank you!
You said it yourself @ 3:46: "Yes, perhaps they're a little bit more delicate than a standard V8 engine..." These twin-turbo V6 engines won't take kindly to the abuse and neglect that the old 5.7 was able to endure.
I was thinking the same lol. I'll stick with my V8 until they work all the kinks out
I think Toyota will ultimately make another reliable engine. Accelerated wear testing is not exactly real world testing. Heat cycles and extreme climate conditions play a part in longevity, especially in seals.
the engine might be good, but putting so many eggs in one basket is foolish. Should that turbo fail, the costs will be very high to replace...no thank you
@@aarontaylor9413buy a horse that one not fail😂
@@aarontaylor9413 how so? Replacing a turbo is not that expensive, turbos operate off of exhaust heat so all that could fail are bearings, which are built very well today. Cars are designed to operate at a specific air fuel ration so if turbo fails the engine management system will reduce fuel being supplied to engine?
Or I can just avoid a vehicle with an expensive turbo.
Not expensive? Its more than 5k just for the turbo...then to replace it is a major job. I hate, I mean utterly HATE rip off dealerships. I do most of my own work, or know people who can. That turbo will force a lot of people to have to spend more money at a dealership. Thzt wont work for people, ike me. Dealerships have high costs, and transfer that burden to its customers. That is unxceptable to me, as I dont care about their high costs, and are not willing to pay them.
Very helpful!!!
Ok I feel a lot better my truck is suppose to be here the week of the 20th of December, and the only worry I had was a new truck first year but its a Toyota so I shouldn't worry, thanks for the great video.
Thank you for the detailed info. I’m looking forward to putting at least 200k miles on my new ‘22 Platinum when it finally becomes available.
Thank you David, i have a 2011 Tundra 5.7L V8 with 260,000 miles, will trade that one come March 2022 for the new Tundra. Nothing wrong with my current truck, i just wanted to try the new TTV6 engine.
Thanks for the information , I feel more confident now in buying the next Tundra !
Had this been out in 2019 when I bought my 3.5 ecoboost, I might have just went with the Toyota even though I've been a Ford fan my whole life. Toyota makes solid vehicles. We chose a Highlander over the Explorer and have been very happy with it the past three years
Some are opposed to turbo gas engines, say they will wear out too quickly etc. But if the engine is designed to BE turbocharged from the start, with proper lubrication, bearing sizes, cooling etc. they are made to handle the power, just as a bigger v8 came with bigger bearings than a small v8. In the old days, taking a regular gas engine and adding a turbocharger DID push the engine beyond what it was designed to produce, but that was then.
Good point
Fantastic! Looking forward to seeing Toyota guarantee their turbochargers for a million miles. In writing.
That v8 growl though
They will have it. Coming from the speakers. My wife just shot up in value.
@@jeremy9071 yup lol love the v8
That sweet turbo spool though
I’d prefer silence, it’s nice to hear an elk bugle or a Turkey gobble while driving in the woods. The 3.5 ecoboost is so quiet it’s amazing
Wow !! My 2005 Tundra is still running great so I bet these engines are great !!
Nah these new Toyotas aren't the same as the 2000s Toyota. More rigidness, reliability, and performance.
David, great video & explanation 👏. I knew Toyota tested all their components, but not to the extreme like you mentioned. I'm more of a Toyota fan now more than ever. Please keep us up to date with all Toyota & Lexus products. Thank you.
Thank you so much for your feedback and comment! Yes I will keep bringing news and info to all of you!
I am waiting for the MPG on the V6. I will get one when they come out. I have had Toyotas for years the ones i had have been bullet proof i run them for 200,000 + miles with no issues.
The EPA numbers are going to be a lie like usual with turbo v6s
@@scottfree6479 i can beat the epa numbers in my 2.7 f150.
It all depends upon how you drive. You cannot "keep up with traffic" that zips around city turns and stays on the gas till the light turns red, constantly using the brakes...
You have to drive boring, coast to stops. But i can get 28mpg out of a tank, over 500 miles before a 20g refill.
I don't do it all the time, but it's possible. (Way easier now that i don't live in a large town).
I don't doubt the 'yota will be the same.
@@volvo09 Yeah of course, but you can do similar things with ANY engine. Efficient driving techniques are not limited to eco-boost engines.
Meanwhile a big V8 will perform consistently better then more weight you have since it is getting better burn efficiency.
Furthermore such driving is not convenient for 95%+ of people.
Avg 18.4 mpg on my 22.
We currently own 2016 F`150 with 2.7 ecoboost engine and so far 5 years and no problems. I have no issues with new turbo engines.
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That's why I bought the 3.5 eco boost, knew multiple friend that have that engine, have only smiles on their faces when they talk about it.
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Thanks for that explanation sir.
What say you of the iForce Max, reliability of the Hybrid design?
Should also be very reliable...
great video, thank you for the information
Turbos aren’t bad if they’re done right. Every Semi on the road has one.
Every semi will need to have them replaced
@@clb_52 yes, but they can last a really long time.
@@clb_52 replacing a turbo>>>replacing an engine
@@danl7442 Both are costly🤑
@@tmr8193 pretty much every semi on the road has one. Better, buddy?
I agree with you regarding the long term reliability of the V6 turbo that’s well maintained. Kaizen has proven to be Toyota’s long term advantage. One concern I have on my 2020 Tacoma is the use of plastics on various engine components. Particularly engine cooling system components. I worry about long term fatigue, cracking and coolant leaks. One particular component is at the back of the engine. It’s hard to fix. They have to remove the cab of the truck to access it. Especially the 2016 & 17’s Tacoma’s. I wish they would have continued with metal on these critical components.
Stick with older Toyotas. These new Toyotas aren't the same. Stick with 95-2010 Toyotas.
2017 taco owner here. 5 years no issues, Toyota serviced, 5 state inspections(tough state requirements). I have not seen what you are talking about except for the oil filter housing and you don’t need to remove the body of the truck. Please tell me which plastic part I need to replace by removing the entire truck body.
Excellent report!!!
Yes, and I was travelling down the highway at a speed of at least 100 KM per hour during which time I witnessed an emergency when I thought I was driving my triple black 6 speed C5 Corvette and accidently put the transmission of my 2007 Lexus IS250 AWD automatic into I don't know what gear and then immediately back into drive. Never experienced a single problem with the transmission since that point in time. Built solid like a tank. Durable. Indestructible. But then again, I did not repeatedly practice that gear change at that speed for a million miles. LOL 😄
Thanks for the info. I will miss the V8.
What a fun and exciting thought if this TT 3.5L engine was in the Tacoma as well! Is this an idea that Toyota is willing to experiment with?
I’m looking forward to the advantages forced air induction will provide at higher altitude.
Me too. Live at over 6k foot elevation
Will the new twin turbo 3.5 have Atkinson cycle? Love my 2016 Tacoma but major complaints are it is sluggish due to the six speed transmission and Atkinson mode searching for best mpg. Thanks for the video, I have always been a Toyota fan.
We have exclusively own Toyota vehicle for 45-years for the very reasons this automotive engineered stated, I have had three Camrys roll 500,000 miles, Supra hit 400,000 miles, Celica GTS hit 450,000 miles and my Regular Cab Red Tundra SR5 with the 5.7L (4.79 sec 0-60) hit 475,000 miles but best of all our 1984 Camry Le hit 845,000 and when we sold it, truly we take extreme care of our vehicle, the 1984 Camry LE look so outstanding and in perfect condition with that many miles we sold it for $3000. So yes we are now fully excited for the new Tundra, our last three were superb trucks so can't wait to get this new 2022!
I can’t wait to test the engine out. I tow regularly with heavy loads, hills, and long distances.
I had the LC300 for almost a week, it is definitely quicker than the 5.7 and the fuel consumption is amazing. The 10 speed it great for highways too.
I’m interested to see the towing mpg as these turbo charged V6s tend to get poorer miles per gallon than naturally aspirated V8s when towing.
Why not get a 3/4 or 1 ton truck if you're doing that?
Make sure it has a transmission fluid cooler. Make the service manager of the dealership point it out to you. I bought a 2019 Platinum Crewmax and the factory window sticker listed a transmission cooler under “Tow Package”. Except Toyota pulled a quiet cheap-ass stunt and deleted it from the truck. When I found out I was pissing napalm like hundreds of other customers that were shafted. I called Toyota, wrote letters, etc. and Toyota basically gave me the finger. Good luck with that twin turbo engine.
I have 99 4runner and still runs like it’s new but I just cannot wait for the 2023 4runner to be released can’t wait to put my hands on em!!
Are they putting the twin turbo v6 in the 4 Runner? I thought it was a 2.0L 4 cylinder. No more V6.
Yea I think they putting 4cyl with turbo tho
@@stickfiggas22 I hope not. I’m out.
I’m going with the 2022 4Rnr this round. It’s solid and maybe a cool flaming ☀️ sun orange will be available on the TRD PRO by 2025 😂
V6 tt only replaces the v8(tundra,sequoia and landcruiser). I would prefer the Tacoma over 4runner, unless you're going for that 3rd row. You get that bed from the Tacoma!
This was just recommended to me in May 2024 as Toyota recalled their turbo engines in Lexus and Tundra... Dang. Aged like milk
Thanks for the video! Really enjoyed it hearing from a SME who really knows what he's talking about. As a former Toyota production worker at NUMMI in CA (we produced the Tacoma, Vibe and Matrix) I know firsthand the insane dedication to quality of Toyota. The issues I see imho will be build issues, i.e. fit and finish. See, if the engine is built in Japan by japanese workers, you can bet your ass it will be bulletproof and if assembled here as well. There's a reason why Lexus was only built in Japan for a long time. But if not, there's your weak link. Since they didn't farm out their engine to BMW like they did to the new Supra, I am 100% certain it will last far longer than any of the big 3 and way better resale value too.
You mean the Detroit little 3.
I grew up on Toyota's. Corolla, Tercel, R22 mini truck. Then drove a 3 year old Buick hand-me-down for a few years. Complete disaster. Bad auto transmission lockup pin, heater core leaked, ABS malfunctioned all before 100k miles. After I started making some decent money. I bought an Infiniti G35 thinking it was going to be much better than the Skylark. It was, but not by much. Bad seat switches, bad control arm bushings, leaking shocks, and it kept eating oil. Bought the 2016 Tacoma (1st year). Just paid it off. Not one problem. Zip. Zilch. Nada.
u paid it off in 1 year?
Same here. 2016 trd dc. Great truck
I can’t put my finger on it but Toyota definitely has the “secret sauce” when is comes to durability, longevity and reliability. We have a large fleet of trucks at the utility I work for and the technicians rarely have to make repairs to the Toyota trucks. The Big 3 trucks are another story. They keep the mechanics and the local auto parts store busy!
Yet when you look at the entire fleet (commercial) pickup market, Toyota is a rounding error of the total.
@@cl3410 I hope you’re joking
@@cl3410
Chrysler has traditionally been shit when it comes to reliability and dependability. They are trying to improve though, and have had some success in recent years, but still have a long way to go. GM is a little better, but there newer cars have had a number of electronic issues. Ford is the best of the big 3 currently, but still far behind Toyota. The numbers show this. When you look at reliability and dependability data, Toyota out performs the competition. Same with Lexus when compared to other luxury brands. The 1st RX gen RX300 had transmission issues. Both my brother and cousin had problems with theirs. But that's not the standard, its the outlier. You are right in regards to American cars improving their quality and dependability. However, Toyota hasn't been sitting with their thumb up their asses. They are always striving to improve. Reliability and dependability are their selling point, and if they lose that, they they would be utterly fucked.
Consumers decide with their wallets based on their experiences. And if Toyota slips, people will go elsewhere. Toyota isn't perfect by any measure, but they do out perform the competition with regards to dependability and reliability. The 5.7L Tundra proved itself to be the most dependable and reliable pickup. I am pretty sure Toyota will do everything in their power to not fuck that up with the 3.5L TT. That being said, competition is good. Because when companies compete, consumers win.
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Own a Toyota and Chevy and I would say the Toyota is built like a tank and the Chevy like a Hummer, but then again I do have the 4Runner and Tahoe. Chevy trucks very reliable but cars I don’t believe so much so. Overall Toyota better quality I also own a Camry but they do up charge you for that dependability
@@cl3410 I had a 2009 GMC Sierra 4X4 , Z71 package with the 6.6 L Duramax diesel. Towed a 32 ft fifth wheel trailer/camper that weighed 10,000 lbs. all over hell and back. I only ever had to replace a glow plug and that was the extent of repairs to that truck. I’m 68 yrs old and didn’t want to prep and haul the trailer any more soI traded it in for a 2021 Tacoma TRD Sport. This was two months ago and the Toyota dealer was very glad to have my 09 GMC truck in the current truck shortage, so I got an outstanding price. That truck didn’t need the DEF fluid, didn’t have cylinder deactivation or the run stop crap. I miss it because of nostalgia but not because it gave me any trouble. Rule: Take care and maintain your vehicle.
Light on the specific tech.
David rules 👍🙏
I’ve always thought this about Toyota ,Honda generators. Unlike GM ,Ram ,Ford ,we test them and they are in the parts business 😂👍
I keep reading about the new tundras turbo waste gate problems and how difficult it is to have the parts replaced. Going to give this model year a miss and wait until the bugs get worked out.
I would never buy the first year model of a powertrain update. I don't care if the same powertrain was in another vehicle, it still takes production side time to perfect their process. Along with real world usage of said vehicle. I usually wait till year 3 in a update cycle unless it's just a face lift.
I had a 2013 3.5 Ecoboost for 7 years no issues. I now have a Hemi Ram and it’s a beast. Toyota makes decent vehicles so we will have to wait until 2023 to see how it pans out.
Nice job David, as usual.
Guess the UV testing wasn't done on the light housing for 2017 Camry's That thing started yellowing and went opaque within a year under the Texas sun, both sides evenly though..
Yeah, I had the same question. I guess no one looked at the lights. Honda's have the same problem.
I hope Toyota's twin turbos don't overheat and burnout when towing a heaving load. Talking to EcoBoom.
Eco boost was a horrible design from the beginning , plus it’s a Ford.
That was the first and last Ford I’ll ever buy what a nightmare that pos was
@@wesdonovan821 mine was all stock
@@1FiftyOverland and bad design …
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@@adamgarcia9839 You seem so puerile.
I love my new 23 tundra these trucks are amazing only thing I would ask for is down hill assistance for hills and less lag on the turbo
I plan on buying a new Sequoia next year! My question is which oil do you recommend?
I’m willing to wager they will not last as long as my V8, nor be as trouble free, especially if it has gdi injection.
Ugh, GDI is terrible. If they do, they at least need to put an injection event before the intake valves for cleaning. Still, though, that’s more complexity and cost.
Damn EPA and GDI…
The Lexus LS 500 2017 and above comes with same TT V6 and has both gdi and multiport so i personally Think that the failure will not happen that regard. Can Anyone weigh in with a High Mileage 2017+ LS 550 TT V6 on Reliability?
100% Theres no way in hell that any turbo engine is going to be able to be even close to reliability with their v8s
I have many Toyotas & Lexuses but you’ll never convince me a much more complicated engine will last longer than a simpler one. Sure if you put in more maintenance (time, energy and money) like what is required of turbo vehicles, it might be acceptably reliable & durable under real world conditions
@@tundralane256 I'm at 235k with my 07 Camry. Don't have Lexus money lol
The tundra v8 is a workhorse and was smooth, economical and powerful. Less cylinder pressures, less complexity etc. Ive owned both and if reliability was my main focus(which it is nowadays) then I'd choose naturally aspirated ALL DAY LONG. Bring back the v8 but do a hydrogen one maybe!?
There is just no hydrogen infrastructure set up and to make hydrogen clean with electrolysis is extremely inefficient.
i drive a 2004 turbo diesel nissan frontier. my cousin has an 04 turbo diesel hilux. we r both on our second engines. respectively our original engines failed after 11 years of use, covering roughly 40k miles per year. Around 440,000 miles of use, 365 days a year for 11 years. And our original turbos are still fine. We kept them as back ups for the replacement engines, which are covering the same annual mileage. We service the turbos once a year and usually all that's required is a good cleaning. pretty sure the turbo v6 with hybrid option is going to outlast its own battery pack.
By the way, I am so glad I bought one of the best Toyota engines ever built. The 4.7 liter 2UZFE. One of the best V8 engines ever built. I have a 2005 Lexus GX470. It has 155,000 miles, still goes strong, still maintained well. It is starting to show its age a little. It is 16 years old after all. I am still very proud of it. It is quite a capable off road vehicle. I believe that the 1UZFE 4.0 liter V8 was Toyota's very best engine. All of the UZFE V8s were very good. It seems that the 4.0 takes power upgrades the best. The 4.7 is not built for power upgrades. It is built as a low reving torquey engine, moving a lot of weight with authority. It only weighs 4800 pounds. It is like a small tank. It sounds great and does its job wonderfully.
I would argue the 22RE is right up there with the 4.7. I had an 86 4Runner with that engine with over 340k miles. Indestructible!
My 3.5 ecoboost lasted a whopping 14k miles before cylinder failure and new short block needed. Thats why i drive a 5.7 aTundra now. I ll give Toyota time to work out bugs before i upgrade
Amen
Ford still can't figure out trim pieces, dashboards, roof rails, paint etc. Why they would be able to get a decent turbo motor together is beyond me..
@@saisr1 my f150 I had and my sons both had warped dashes.
Sure, I have a 3.5 EB and have 4 different friends with them none of us have had issues with our 3.5's. I have two friends that have used Tundras the got them cheap because the previous owners got tired of the dismal mpg's. Ford's new 7.3L V8 in a 3/4 ton truck achieves significantly better mpg's than Toyota's 5.7.
@@Steve-yr5vi was not my experience at all. Like I said new piston skirt at 14,000 miles and the service at the dealership shameful
Regarding Toyota's engine R & D testing: do they include dynamic, short trip, repeated start/stop, cold-engine driving scenarios -- or only run engines continuously?
I'd assume they do, but would like to know for sure.
I read an interview with a GM R&D exec who claimed the turbocharged variant of the 1.4L 4-cylinder engine used in the Chevy Trax/Buick Encore was virtually bulletproof, too, as result of similarly dynamic, rigorous and extensive testing it was subject to.
Despite the fact that GM's engines are not in the same league as Toyota's, both made similar claims: that the refinements made and reliability/longetivity achieved via dynamic laboratory testing would equal real world success.
Dave, will oil change intervals be more often with the V6 turbo than the 5.7L V8 at 10,000 miles?
I can just about guarantee that the oil change interval will be the same. Environmental pressures will see to that.
Hi, can you comment as to why if such testing is done why was a recall issue on certain models? Having said that, I would still choose Tundra over the competition.
All this guy did was repeat the same stuff and said Toyota tests stuff. What about people who tow? How will this engine hold up to 20,000-30,000 miles of towing 3 tons? That's what I want to know and that's why so many people are disappointed. We wanted something that could really compete with a 2500 or 250.
Awesome video!! I’m confident the engine is amazing, how about the transmission?? Also what’s this price tag going to look like??? If this is a $55-$70k truck I’m out
The 2021 Sr5 starts at 45 sooo you’re probably looking at around 60k for the TRD pro iforce max
Thanks Zack! Can’t wait until my local dealers have all the trim levels available to actually go out and take a look at. Don’t want to but price will determine if I let go of my current tundra. 👍🏽
Expect big dealer markups on this truck.
I have a 2021 4.0 4runner. I wondering if toyota has a system that pumps oil first then ignites the car to prevent dry starts? Does going to ACC mode for a few seconds then turning the car
11 years I lived in Japan, my 91 Forerunner was a Turbo, so was my Skyline, and my Jimmy (Suzuki Samurai). Turbos are the BEST
Did they start the 100 year UV test after the 2007-2011 Camry? I found it hard to believe they subjected those dash’s to any test like that since they all melted in a 10 year window.
I am sure they did, check out 1997-2001 Camry. No one said those years got shitty interior in Southern California. 2007-11 Camry used different part suppliers. Just like what happened in certain run away V6 scandals happened over a decade ago.
I agree....same epidemic with the LS460 dash and interior panels
I think it was only an 07 to 09 problem, the issue was fixed for all 2010 plus models
@@notasolutionI got a 11, they all melted, sticky, difficult to clean and reflects in the windshield when sunny. It’s a Made in US Camry…
As I've stated before David, I hope the Tundra twin turbo won't have the same problem Ford has with water droplets forming and getting sucked into the intercooler... thank you so much for posting. Very hot in Glendale Arizona in the lower "48" I'm running back into the pool... PS. Love broiled King Salmon steaks lol.
Anything gotta be better than the ecoturd
Hats off to you Mr. David for great videos. Have to say on this one…I will be SHOCKED if Toyota’s statistical dispatch reliability and longevity experience over the next decade proves-out to be the same or better on vehicles where the NA V-8 is getting replaced by a 4-banger with double turbochargers and a battery in the trunk. Adding mechanical & electrical complexity to an already complex machine and expecting this sure seems like a massive challenge with small odds. We’re planning to keep our 100-Series LandCruiser with 2UZ-FE in service indefinitely.
Can you do an in depth video of the GR86?
A V6 car engine cannot replace a V8 truck engine. I’ll pass with all due respect ✊
Good video. We’re still waiting on SOMETHING! Toyota hasn’t updated us a while now. What’s the hold up??
There's still 2 photos left to release on the Toyota website.
@@Libertarian_Neighbor that’s not a fact. Toyota hasn’t said that officially. Those were just numbers on a phone. Nothing officially has been started.
@@c-zen890 yea and those two photos been posted for a while now, Toyota needs to step it up.
I have complete faith in Toyota products! My 2008 Tundra Crewmax Limited with 307,000 miles still runs like a champ! I will be upgrading to the 2022 Hybrid!
will the driving experience be a balancing experience? and be smooth going from electric to the TT-V6-?
i have driven many other hybrid cars and they shake and jump and jerk- all the time.
How much is Toyota paying this guy?
I've seen this mistake many times with many different technologies. Continuous operation in a lab does not necessarily translate to long life in the customers hands. It is possible to simulate real world conditions, starts, stops, hot, cold, rpms up and down, etc etc. Many manufacturers don't do this. They rely on the "continuous on" testing to prove how reliable their products are. I'm hoping Toyota is smarter than that, but I won't hold my breathe....
Totally agree with you
100% agree. Hey Toyota, would you like to address how many 'rust belt' specific issues the Tundra has had over the years? What, don't they salt the roads in your endurance laboratory? Let's see the 'Tow it from Phoenix to Flagstaff simulation'.
Yes! Watch the first series of these get plagued with issues like every car that goes into production. The first three years almost always come with the most issues because of real condition usage.
We knew Toyota was going to mass produce a v6 twin turbo long ago with their test bed at Le Mans, with a successful victory at that. Still, even with more advanced technology today I don't think a turbocharged engine will last as long as a naturally aspirated engine.
With the hundreds of millions of dollars involved in developing a truck and powertrain you can bet the powertrain has been tested all over the world in 2nd gen Tundras or other Toyota trucks in severe duty. Their reputation for reliability was earned.
Any commute vehicle long distance from A to B. Many from different auto manufacturers run in the excess of 1-2 million miles. One Volvo reaches 3 million miles. Google it.
Thanks for the video. I like the new truck and thinking about getting one. I wish the design of the exterior looked a little better.
Thanks for watching!
So what's the resource (how many miles that 3.5 engine will work that engine without break down ) of 3.5 twin turbo toyota?
Let’s put that engine, or similar, in that new hybrid GX. Thank you for the update…
I should have never switched to the GMC AT4 from my 2010 Tacoma ! 😭 I’ll be be getting the new Tundra.
Get an 18-21 you will be very happy. No Premium, Less Frequent oil changes, the engine is a beast. Awesome Truck seriously. Plus the headlights look the best to me in those models.
I have the 2019, 6.2L as well. Must have been built on a Friday. Nothing but problems.
All my family drive Toyota and Lexus (6) and the most high miles is 179.000 Tacoma 2013 & 150.000 Tundra 2012. The most I like is air conditioning “ít very very goooooood” 👍
I have an 5.7L 08 toyota tundra with 170k miles and it's been the best truck without any major problems only thing i replaced was the break light switch down on the break pedal. Wish toyota would donate a new tundra to me.
I'm watching this in 2024... Who remembers the engines blowing up? 😂
Strongly disagree with everything that you are saying here.
I drive about 33,000 miles a year as a regional VP for my company in Texas. My area is essentially all of Texas and parts of Oklahoma so I drive a lot. I deliver stuff so a 2015 F-150 was the truck I bought for this job specifically. I put 230,000'ish miles on my truck when I sold it in January 2021.
For starters, twin-turbo motors need TDI service every 30,000 miles (turbo direct injection). Without it the motor will be destroyed because the high pressure of the fuel to produce the power doesn't allow the full burn of the fuel and you get carbon build-up. That costs me $391 each time.
Next, the barrings in my turbo went out at 121,000 miles. That cost me almost $600 with labor to fix. I was pretty upset about that repair but the mechanic said that is pretty normal. BUT worst of all the twin turbos went out at around 210,000 miles (just last year) and that cost me $3,665.00. That price will forever be burned into my mind. That repair made me so angry especially since the vast majority of my miles are highway. The mechanic told me, "we replace these around 150-175k but highway miles let you get over 200,000 on yours. Congrats! That was not what I wanted to hear.
I forgot about the oil leak I had in the twin-turbo at around 180,000 miles. I had that fixed at around $400 with labor.
Bottom line I hated this truck because I also spent another $5,000 on front-end issues, brake issues, and electronic problems with some accessories.
This is why I bought a 2021 Tundra TRD Limited in January and wish I had bought it the first time.
Sorry but there is no way the Toyota twin-turbo is going to be much better than what Ford is offering.
alot of what u r saying is true however u have to remember that toyota uses d-4s, port and direct injection on their motors, therefore carbon build up shouldnt be an issue as the port injection cleans the build up.
@@marmar7105 Will that be the case on the new motor? Has that been confirmed?
@@SuperSnakePlissken all of toyota dynamic force motors as of 2017 are d-4s direct and port injected. the v35A, a 3.5 TTv6 thats in the ls500 and land cruiser 300 series employ it. and this will be the same TNGA motor. this motor has been around since 2017
@@marmar7105 Well that is good to hear. That Ford I had was not an overall pleasant experience. By 150,000 miles it reminded me of an old dresser. It got the job done but it rattled, shook, and the fitting by that point was not great.
Since I don't have to pay for gas having a 2021 Tundra is a dream.
@@marmar7105 -- Ford added that in Gen II of the 3.5L turbo, in 2017 also. Today, and possibly earlier, all Ford F-Series gas engines have twin injectors (port and direct).
I remember hearing on CZcams a jeep mechanic felt the wrangler V6 should be able to do over 200,000 miles before having problems. First thought I had was “That’s all?” Non turbo V6? …..Just for comparison.
that you for your video
I've own Toyota's over 40 years .. I have a 2023 Tundra at 500 miles they replace a transfer case and a front differential the new front differential design cause all the problems by time they replaced these parts it took over 3 months ... My DEALER alone in Ontario CANADA had 4 engines replaced that i know of .. Toyota have more moving parts in this 3.5L twin turbo V-6 like 2 extra rads , 2 electric water pumps , extra electronics involve , 2 Turbos , extra hoses , David K. You said as a Engineer that this Engines are as RELIABLE then the old 5.7 engine that's getting VERY HARD to believe.. I'm seeing many V35A-FTS engines bottom end spinning BEARINGS or waste gate issues.. The way i see it with all these extra moving parts just more that could go WRONG ... David K. you said these NEW ENGINE are good for a MILLION MILES.. If i get 350 Thousand miles with NO turbo or engine issues i would be a Happy Camper ..
How well can this engine tow as compared to the outgoing 5.7?
In my opinion Toyota should enter the heavy duty segment of the truck
market to compete with F250
Absolutely, Mike!
The 2JZ GTE is a testament that turbocharged engines can be just as reliable as a naturally aspirated engine. Even at 1000 hp with the correct aftermarket parts, bolt torque, and tuning they will run forever. The 2JZ is one of my favorite turbocharged engines so are the Volvo red block i4 turbos, turbo i5s, and turbo i6s. As well as the Mitsubishi Mivec 2.0 turbo 4s and 3.0 twin turbo V6s.
2JZ GTE is a legendary engine, but it is also a heavy bulk piece of cast iron. Not the case with the all-aluminium Toyota twin-turbo V6.
@@artemzhirkov7565 The 1MZ-FE and 1UZ-FE are also all aluminum engines. The engine in the million-mile tundra is all aluminum as well.
@@davidperry4013 Yes but the 1MZ-FE and 1UZ-FE are also both natural aspirated.
@@davidperry4013 Yes but the 1MZ-FE and 1UZ-FE are also both natural aspirated.
I like Toyota a lot, and my daily car is a 2005 Lexus ES330. (Boring but nice and reliable.) I bought a truck a few years ago and was not sure what to get. A new F150 with the 3.5 Turbo V6 cost not much more than a recent Tundra V8 pickup. I went with the F150 because its around town mpg's are better than the V8 Tundra's highway mpgs. I've gotten over 24mpg on the highway at 60-65 mph with the AC on, with my F150, and around town it's easy to get 17. The V8 Tundra was rated at maybe 17 mpg highway. Also I like the F150's all aluminum body and the fact that the truck weighs 600-700 lbs less and won't rust out. I'm sure the Tundra is great! But I've got no regrets, loving my F150, perfect so far.
Is the Lexus 3.5 TT (3.44 liter) produced at the Tahara plant? And will the Tundra’s 3.5 TT be produced at the Huntsville AL plant? If so, are there any differences? Is the current 5.7 liter from Tahara used in the LC or LX 570 any better than the Tundra’s 5.7 from Huntsville? Just curious.
tell me why my tundra alr got its engine replaced and it’s a 22
I have an 87 pickup that was seriously neglected and abused by previous owners. The clutch finally started going out at 250k. I replaced it with factory components. The timing chain wore slack enough that I heard it and I also replaced that the timing gears. I adjusted the valves and the inside of the head looked almost new. The carburator probably will need rebuilt soon but that little truck will probably go another 300k. I also have an 01 TRD off-road Tacoma that I bought from someone recently it's at 270k with the clutch replaced about 3 years ago. It's the 2.7 and has been taken care of. I'm convinced it's not even halfway thru it's life.
Is the added cost of the Hybrid Tundra worth it vs the standard 3.5 Turbo V6 Tundra ?
Hi dear is there any issue with new 2022&2024 Tundra/ Land Cruiser 3.4 twin turbo engine problems??? Bcoz there’s some land cruisers woner they face some engine issues