I once read a reddit comment about romance stories, the "danny devito rule" replace the male lead's looks with danny devito, if it becomes creepy, it's a bad story, if it's still romantic, the story is fine
the real horror are the sales numbers of romance novels.... Then again lots of men watch porn with very unrealistic women in it, and from anthropological research it seems those two are similar. So, go off ladies ^.^
@@Nerobyrne hey, authors can write all the erotica they want without much judgement from me. Even some of the very dark stuff out there can be turned into....let's call it "inspiration for consentual fantasy play" and even the stuff that can't people generally have a better time seperating erotic fantasies from reality (especially with half-way decent sex-ed). It's the _romanticizing_ of abusive behavior where I start to have problems, and while it is far from contained specifically to romance novels and/or dirrected at women, that is a big source of it and does a lot of harm. If someone has an unrealistic view of sex but a healthy understanding of relationships, that problem can be talked through. If someone has an unhealthy understanding of relationships....well, you're not going to bang that problem out in the bedroom. (Also, consent and extreme abuse don't really coexist, so...)
@Al X. Andra Yeah, 50 Shades of Grey would have been a much different story if, instead of a billionaire, he was a minimum wage worker living in a trailer park.
Reminds me of that one Community episode. "The pain of not having pain is still pain. Now that may seem like an easy way out, but we're just actors, not authors."
I saw that and I was like, Holy shit! I actually used that backstory for a fantasy character! The entire premise of the story was the villain drawing the writer into the world to confront her about why she had written so little about his character.
Or where they're SUPPOSED to be far more horrible, but actually end up a lot more likeable because the supposedly unlikeable traits the author piles on them are "being not-white and not a billionaire" and "being remotely pleasant to be around because that's not ALPHA SEXY".
Ah yes. The good old "the good guys are too evil, we need to make a more evil faction so that people will root for them" plot device, or as I like to call it, the "Chaos Insurgency Trick".
writer: *makes evil male character because fetish* Also the writer: No, if I just make him like this everyone will hate him... well, here goes nothing Writer: *creates scapegoat* Horny Readers: *use scapegoat to justify why they don't actually like the story just because they find it hot*
Also he can't have any emotions. Emotions are for women! But he can be sad, angry, jealous, sexually aroused, and punch a hole in the wall because the love interest is wearing a dress she chose for herself instead of the one he sent her as a gift, BUT none of that counts as emotion! He will constantly be described as stoic, and the heroine will constantly be made to feel worthless because of her "womanly emotions" which involve things like wanting basic rights and dignity.
"..he can be sad.." WHAT? NO. Sadness isn't showing strength. Only anger, jelousy, lust. And if he starts to feel sadness (shame on him), *he has to* channel it into anger. And also no frustration - it impies something is out of your control.
Noemi Starlight Not gonna lie. Even if I did get my GF a dress, I would care less whether she wore it or not as long as the dress in question was reasonably priced, not over expensive, and she at least likes it.
I think women like these characters because they appeal to their fantasy of a powerful, dominant, attractive, and masculine man who exists in a safe fantasy where his actions can't actually harm them. However, I doubt they'd like the same type of guy were he to exist in real life where he can actually do harm.
Yep. Like, lots of things I enjoy in fiction would be objectively awful if they happened in real life. One could argue one of the points of fiction is to allow the reader to indulge in a sense of danger while at a safe distance.
Its like an adventure genre. If you really want dangerous adventure you would join the army instead of reading those books on your couch. I am sure that 50 shades fangirls would run away from the male lead in real life, regardless of his looks and money.
@@svchineeljunk-riggedschoon4038 i don't really think money would change things that much, as they ultimately wouldn't be happy with someone who is potentially abusive or harmful in some way.
We need an alpha male story that abruptly ends with him being arrested instead of him fulfilling his wishes. Bonus points if his love interest actually falls for a werewolf with a dad bod!
"My tragic backstory is that the author forgot to give me any backstory." My god. That is the most tragic backstory to have tragic backstory-ed. Glory to the empire.
*Mind flashes to Bakugo Katsuki* The general clue is Alpha, and if the leader of the pack would think that they are the focus of the story... makes some sense.
No man, you have it all wrong. People are reading romance novels for the plot and it has absolutely, positively nothing to do with the greased abs on the cover. It’s the same reason anime fans get pillows of the best written characters.
@Rider450 I honestly don't understand the hate twilight gets. Was it good? Well, no. It was average written with bland characters. But people need to stop acting as though it is the worst thing that has ever happened to society.
G'Rxklly stopped and turned towards Mary Sue, his muscular tentacles glistening behind him. His perfect, wonderful 107 eyes all glowed sexily in the moonlight, as he tenderly picked up Mary Sue in his exquisitely molded eldritch armlegs and....ate her. Then he went back to destroying the world.
I just realize that DIO from Jojo is pretty much the alpha described in this video: -Always shirtless -Vampire -Violent tendencies -Rich -Noble -Bad childhood -Buff
Y’know, after that live action video on apology videos, I’ve come to realize that your avatar isn’t just a stolen epic face but it does truly look like you.
Whenever I see an author that had a few original works, and then their bibliography is flooded with cheap romance, I imagine they were approached by a publisher with a big check and the phrase "do you want to make art, or do you want money?"
And have the grammar of a five-year old, although they probably were written by one seeing as how their characters’ actions can only be seen as excusable and reasonable when you’re a little kid.
@@HighAdmiral Do you know the story of Harley in the Batman universe? She is a psychologist that gets somehow manipulated into loving Joker and becoming her sidekick, lover and punching bag. She is the definition of a person loving an asshole that treats her like shit and that, if it's advantageous for him, would shoot her in the fucking head. TLDR people romanticize that abusive relationship and romanticize abusive relationships irl
I'm not well versed in romance novels but I feel that was only a big deal because of the slight BDSM slant the books had to it. Very slight. When I was trashing that book, an ex friend of mine thought I was being so closed minded about alternative romance stories like some older Russian movie, I think it was, that she knew of about a man that rapes a woman and then she falls in love with him. So.......... Yeah.
Seriously, why does this character type appeal to anyone? The only appeal I can find in this type of character is imagining them getting boiled in oil until well-done.
Ah yes, the post apocalyptic selective breeding of humans for consumption. That's how they're all so identically buff and all had rough childhoods- they were bred to produce lots of meat and grew up on human farms. Only existing to eventually be slaughtered and cooked. I would much more perfer that story than whatever hellscape those romance novels he was mentioning are.
Love Interest: You've drugged me, dragged me to your summer vacation house, chained me in the basement, knocked out my brother when he tried to stop you, and then informed my friends that we would be taking an "extended vacation" together..... all because I didn't pick up the phone at 4am? Alpha "Hero": You don't understand! I did it because I LOVE you! I can't live without you!! Love Interest: *Takes in his washboard abs* I guess this is OK.
Why don’t we make love interest a bodybuilding man (albeit less psychotic) and the “Alpha ‘Hero’” a tentacle monster that wants to subsist off him and uses Aphrodisiacs? Yeah I think I didn’t fix much…
@@gregorymckenzie7511 I'm an alpha male in a romance book, so I have no idea what that is! But I'm an alpha, so all my muscles are strong, especially the sexy ones!!!
Rider450 It's a weird form of slang that means something you relate to. It's generally taken quite loosely, so it can be used in a lot of different ways while generally meaning the same thing
“Just outright abducting her and taking her to his dungeon? It’s ok cuz- Wait that really happens in these books?!” I love how he realizes how fucked up it is 😂
I have recently found interest in reading aloud several romance novels with my friends and laughing hysterically at them. And I have to say your video is totally on point. Some of the "attractive" guys in these books... well they're kinda terrible.
It's not only romance novels but comics too, and also dramas. Especially ones from China. Jesus christ those ones from china. To be fair, most of them are adapted from novels themselves so I can't really blame the artists on the shitty plot.
If you want more of that stuff just go to Wattpad. This site is obsessed with the alpha male love interest for the female protagonist. It's downright frustrating, abusive and creepy. And boring. Like really boring. Finding a good story with romance is really hard.
Fun fact about “alpha” wolves: Usually, wolf packs in the wild comprise of a small number (sometimes as high as 3, usually 1) of breeding pairs, with the remainder being offspring. The “alpha” role is usually collectively shared by the parents - they aren’t in charge because of some “alpha” trait, they’re in charge because they’re Mom and Dad to the rest of the pack.
So if all of those generic werewolf fanfictions want to be more accurate, they have to make the main character a 30 years old woman and the "alpha" a 35 years old man whose wife either died (a rumor that they mated for life but death might cut that) or it's a threesome (dad bods or abs optional since wolves don't care about those.). Tbh, I've never seen a romance story with both characters being more than an average of 33 years old.
Halker Patterson there’s a book/movie reviewer called Dominic Noble. He reviewed both the books and the films. As for a basic summary? Fifty Shades is one agonizingly long “romance” story that glorifies abusive relationships.
Nice! ^_^ But something seems off about the flow. The metre just feels wrong. What if we changed it to something like: Roses are a crimson red, Shirts are overrated. Of course this one will always be The guy Miss Mary dated. Or perhaps the final line can be "The one Miss Sue has dated"
Honestly I actually posed a werewolf fanfic, but it was not like this lol… The alpha wasn’t the rpotagonist as per usual, but this time he is a teen, has nice parents, actually has enough self respect not to be a douchebag, and likes to wear scarves because they cozy (that last bit is rooted in the fact that I like to wear cozy scarves)
But that armor is effective because it's easy to move in and is protective because magic! Magic is perfect because it can do whatever the author wants it to while failing whenever it is ironic for it to happen
Given that people made "tsundere" fanart of a female murderer and a fake account of an attractive man who was self described as a "convicted pedophile" on tinder got a lot of positive attention, yeah
@@infoniwceniocwdhvredidhave8126 I will admit, anthropomorphized firearms represented by sexually-attractive or cute girls that fight for the player as well as form meaningful relationships with them and seek to have fun on their own and comfort the player when they're down is all the rage for us
Make sure that, whenever the alpha male does something horrible, their romantic partner calls them out on it, only for her to be overcome with lust. After they f***, make sure that she gives up on the argument, because, you know, he had a hard childhood. Don’t forget to make them get engaged after they knew each other for a grand total of 1 month and have the characters dismiss any suggestions at the possibility that they’re moving too fast. Finally, remember that character development is difficult, so, instead of the alpha hero actually changing throughout the course of the book (as the female protagonist is “fixing him”), just have characters say that there’s been character development, despite there being little to no change in their behaviour
@@fireblast8972 but they give at least one lesson before they are wiped out, plus their are also the silly mentors that tend to have a higher survival rate.
"At least that's the version he'll use at court proceedings" This gave me an idea. An Alpha Male book, but it's hin getting prosecuted for all the shit he does to the love interest Edit: If you steal the story idea please at least tell the world you got the idea from a rando commentor on CZcams
Alpha werewolf billionaire highlander exists, more than once actually. Highlander and scheich at once may be the only problem since they are two very different cultural circles that writers usually don't mix up.
HaichaoTeaLover ... Maybe if it's historical fiction. I'm reminded of a Highlander who fled Scotland and became regionally important in the ottoman empire during the Napoleonic wars
@@sleepysera "Alpha werewolf billionaire highlander exists" The Parasol Protectorate series has one. He's not exactly a billionaire, but he's very rich and a noble.
Dude, there’s so many alpha werewolf billionaire stories: one of them is “Master Of the city” its an erotica, a POORLY WRITTEN ONE, but if you want a good chuckle, read it.
Wasn't Sean Connery in Highlander supposed to be Egyptian? That at least gets us within the right geographic area. And it doesn't take that much to change the immortals into werewolves.
Everything in this video is true to live and I am living proof of that. After locking the “legally” adult female (who is very sexy but average looking) into the basement my billion dollar mansion for 3 weeks, I started to feel a change in me for the better. It was during one of my many sweaty workout sessions with my personal hair stylist that her gazing eyes made me change and reflect.
they are always, average but sexy looking aren't they? i wonder how the readers can resolve the dissonance in their heads, i guess they can project themselves easier lol
@@Adventurewizard44 Yea they are meant for the readers to project themselves onto. The idea is that they are "Hollywood-ugly", as in, because they are usually so QUIRKY and DIFFERENT they don't know how to carry themselves well so they look plain and boring like most readers probably think of themselves. But if the power of falling in love thrusts them into self-optimizing mode or their new love interests gifts them pretty things, they show unexpected beauty and glam up. There's also a ton of other stuff interwoven with that, like the fact that ignorance of one's charmes still is considered a positive trait, because a woman who is pretty and knows it and possible acts accordingly is considered an evil manipulator. The likeable protagonist can't be like that, they must think they are normal or below average while all the side characters constantly praise how stunning she actually is. Considering romance is mostly women writing for other women, it's ridiculous how much we stick to dumb, kinda toxic old-fashioned views on women.
The golden rule for good romance novels is to replace the male character’s appearance with Danny Devito. If it doesn’t turn into a horror story, it’s a good romance novel.
Don’t forget that the author must insert all of their sexual fetishes and fantasies into the story and apply them to the alpha male with the subtlety and class of a nuclear missile strike. Have the love interest be deeply obsessed with a certain sexual fetish in a totally not creepy way, and it should totally be okay for the love interest to either force or guilt the heroine to engaging in their fetishes without giving them much say. Have this fetish become the entirety of the characters relationship and sex life, making them engage in it so much that you have to wonder if the author wrote the whole story one handed and if their is any real love between the characters of just fetishizing lust?
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one. I've been looking forward to this. My writing powers have doubled since we last met. And more prequel jokes.
@@SendarSlayer because of a little mental problem called “Stockholm Syndrome”, that makes captured people fall in love with their captors, in the original book belle wasn’t as much “his prisoner” as he was “his bride but not really his bride”
Such a burn on 50 Shades and Twilight, and I love it. I think you swore revenge on romance novel "heroes" in an earlier video, and you carried it out brilliantly! And since you brought up chainmail bikinis, do a video on sword-and-sorcery fantasies.
In my writing the male characters are only the most, arrogant, patronizing and shirtless characters in the book, usually when near females, who, by the way, are the most incompetent, useless and weak-willed characters in the book, now I just need to wait for that publishing deal to come in, it's coming any day now
@@remem95 Especially when it comes in the form of a form letter, those are always legit! I've already sent five payments to my publisher, my book should be coming out any time now...unless they need another payment.
It should be the popular opinion because it's true. No matter what it is, sex sells. It always does. You can have zero effort on anything, as long as you're good at describing how hot a character is you'll get reads.
Remember to never ever show any weakness or flaw. People will totally feel better about themselves Also if you're reading this and your name is Doug, Hi
When you are an alpha, you cannot show weakness, or your enemies would exploit it. Even worse! The love interest could start feeling like you are relatable, or can patch up the cause!
yeah because snorting instant espresso is one of the more clandestine seldom mentioned vices of billionaires note: please do not try this as you actually risk serious sinus infections as a result and it turns your boogers all brown and nasty and people will think you are just weird...even if you are a billionaire and have lots of cool stuff
Topic Ideas: Redemption/Corruption arcs Twist endings/moments Integrating themes Creating tension How to use a story's setting Choices in video games Descriptions in novels Writing dialogue
I’m writing a fantasy romance novel right now, and I’m glad that this video lists basically everything I have avoided like the plague! (AKA, don’t be 50 Shades of Twilight)
Writing a post apocalyptic story myself. I was going to write down notes to take into account from this video, then I realized that there were no notes for me to take that I haven’t already taken in the past, if that makes sense.
And rest assured if the female love interest gets pregnant the couple will always stay together. In spite of the fact that they only met literally a few months ago for a one night fling that in no way suggests they have any connections at all besides the child. And the marriage will never fall apart or divolve into a loveless relationship that can permanently scar the child thus defeating the purpose of staying together in the first place.
Wait, are people actually making those books?! And keep in mind, not all shotgun weddings end in divorce or a miserable marriage. It’s not advised to have one, but its not automatically doomed.
@@moonriverbaby4108 yes just look in a section of a bookstore with harlequin books, I think that's what there called, and look for a book that has baby somewhere in the title. Chances are you will find that scenario. And as for shotgun weddings mabe not all of them fail but I'm betting they have a higher chance of divorce later on in life.
6:55 I just realized, I think Scar from Lion King deconstructs the negative portrayal of Alpha Wolves by showing just how realistically disastrous being one can be when they put themselves in charge.
@@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 People always forget alphas are supposed to make for good daddies. Where's the tough guy being cute with his kiddos representation?
It started out with a girl falling in love with a stalking vampire. It continued with an emotionally abusive rich guy into BDSM (despite the fact that it did NOT AT ALL represent how real BDSM works) Now we have a Netflix series about a crime boss holding a woman captive for a year to make her fall in love with him. I wonder what the next step in "romance fantasy" will be. A woman falling in love with her rapist?
Oh god he brought up the 'childhood trauma' excuse, my most hated trope in all of fiction. I'm feeling a mixture of rage and happiness I've not felt since...
Fun fact: the study that introduced the "Alpha-Beta" terminology was done on wolves in captivity. The same author did a study on wild wolves and found a more equal family structure Edit: I made this comment early in the video. Just got to 7:30. I will leave this up as a reminder of my stupidity and to always watch to.the end of a video before commenting
I love this show so much, it's really helped me look at my writing and go "wait a minute my main character can't be Cthulhu, I need to be more unappollogetically racist" so thank you very much
I dunno, the metaphors behind Lovecraft's work are enough in themselves in my opinion. The Shadow Over Innsmouth is a warning over the dangers of racemixing, for example. Sometimes subtlety can work more effectively than blaring everything out.
@Hans Hanzo I'm going to ignore the misspelling of racist because it looks like english isn't your native tongue. So, what book did this sympathetic nazi come from? I'm curious if there's an author out there with enough balls to write a nazi in a sympathetic light.
@@alexanderticonuwu7591 that dosen't sound too hard actually,just make it some part of the hitler youth and from there you already have the theme of how people are affected by their upbringing and how quickly society can change by having the kid remember the time before the nazis
I actually think that (for younger generations of women at least) the appeal of the alpha male is quickly dying off. Now a days is all about emotionally distance, snarky dudes that have a soft spot for you. Or Pretty soft boys that adores you in a completely selfless way and his life’s mission is to make you happy. Tragic backstories and abs are still huge tho
Come to think of it that's sorta going back to where it all started: Mr. Darcy from Pride and Prejudice. He's the original brooding, prickly male romantic hero that the heroine changes for the better, but that involves the protagonist (and reader) actually learning about him and his backstory. And it's not just Elizabeth's love that changes him, it's telling him that he's got his head up his rear, him listening to her and taking it to heart, and doing the right thing even though he's convinced when he's does it he's lost all possibility of winning her (even though she does change her mind at the end.) Most romance novelists nowadays take the broody parts into outright sociopathy and then make him into a housekitten with a bit of unconditional love (and letting him emotionally or otherwise abuse her for a bit) in a way that flat out breaks suspension of disbelief. Then again, I'll admit it takes a bit for me to enjoy any romance plot. Like Charlotte said, "I've never been the romantic sort."
This gave me a vietnam flashback to A Court of Thorns and Roses, a book that I bought randomly thinking that it was a regular fantasy. Sometimes I wish I could unread it
I wouldn't touch that book with an 11.5 foot pole, but I read Throne of Glass by the same author. JP could devote several episodes to her "novels." TOG reads like an eight-year-old wrote it, and ACOTAR sounds like 50 Shades combined with the very worst of the "fair folk" craze.
@@polyhymnia701 well, I read the whole thing. I'm not going to defend it or change your mind, I'm aware that it has issues. I can just tell you that Feyra and Tamlin... Well, in second book she runs away from him. Okay, I'm not comfortable with Feyra and Rhys pairing, but story in second book is much better.
I'll quote my fav fragment. It's translated from polish, so it might be not exact: "This night Tam'll let... powerful and terrifying magic enter his body [...] That magic'll take control not only of his body, but of his soul and mind as well, turning him into a savage hunter. It'll fill all of his thoughts with only one goal: finding a partner for tonight. Their connection will release the magic that will enter the soil, giving plants strength to grow for the whole year"
I don’t know if you can cover this due to the subject matter but it would be interesting to see you do a video on terrible writing advice on writing mental illness/trauma and how it’s romanticizes in media. Or how traumatic events are merely used to shock,the recovery is quick and a perfect cure, or they must forgive their attacker/abuser and must let them back into their life, must not be angry about it anymore.
Our society already does that. How many teachers do you know who punish students just for being angry? Everything in these novels are more a collection of things you never paid attention to.
@@Nionivek "Punish students for being angry" Agression? Showing anger? Rebelling? What exactly? If you start to talk to your teacher with an angry tone: yeah the teacher (and everyone else) doesn't have to tolerate you. Angression - probably obvious. Just looking angry - never heard about someone being punished than. The school doesn't punish mental issues. Especially not if you don't avoid treatment.
But there is a difference between someone not tolerating you because you are angry... And them punishing you for it. A police officer who arrests you, not because you did anything wrong, but because you didn't like that they stopped you... Is an abusive officer. You are even going as far as to call natural emotional reactions as "Mental issues", it is no wonder that ADD/ADHD is an overprescribed diagnosis.
7:24 - I already knew about the origin of the whole Alpha misconseption, but it always reminds me of that scene from Battlefield Earth where Terl (the main villain), wanting to know what's our favorite food in a attempt to bribe the protagonist to work for him, let him and other guys escape so he can observe them from afar. The problem is that they ended up in a place full of snow and nothing but rats to eat, and since the heroes ended up eating them, Terl assumed we humans like to eat rats. Good to know that we humans have the same "inteligence" level of the Psychlos.
I once heard someone ask why men would think women like being dominated and controlled. My immediate response, "The success of Fifty Shades of Gray". She glared at me but couldn't say anything.
My favorite part of alpha males is that the guy who “discovered” them did more research later and found he was wrong. When he tried fixing his mistake he couldn’t because no one would believe him, they all liked the idea too much
I once read a reddit comment about romance stories, the "danny devito rule"
replace the male lead's looks with danny devito, if it becomes creepy, it's a bad story, if it's still romantic, the story is fine
This is amazing
That's why Shrek is the best story in the world
"So anyway, I started blasting.", he said to himself in the mirror after a good intercourse with his wife.
I'm trying to think of danny devito in the shoes of doom Slayer and I can't stop laughing.
@@lukamilosevic661 excuse me what the hell
Remember, the difference between a romance novel and a horror story is how good looking the guy is.
Gold
That is.... disturbingly accurate.
the real horror are the sales numbers of romance novels....
Then again lots of men watch porn with very unrealistic women in it, and from anthropological research it seems those two are similar.
So, go off ladies ^.^
@@Nerobyrne hey, authors can write all the erotica they want without much judgement from me. Even some of the very dark stuff out there can be turned into....let's call it "inspiration for consentual fantasy play" and even the stuff that can't people generally have a better time seperating erotic fantasies from reality (especially with half-way decent sex-ed).
It's the _romanticizing_ of abusive behavior where I start to have problems, and while it is far from contained specifically to romance novels and/or dirrected at women, that is a big source of it and does a lot of harm.
If someone has an unrealistic view of sex but a healthy understanding of relationships, that problem can be talked through. If someone has an unhealthy understanding of relationships....well, you're not going to bang that problem out in the bedroom. (Also, consent and extreme abuse don't really coexist, so...)
@Al X. Andra Yeah, 50 Shades of Grey would have been a much different story if, instead of a billionaire, he was a minimum wage worker living in a trailer park.
"But it's okay, because he's attractive!"
And rich. Don't forget rich.
And powerful
@@hngh6404 but mostly rich. Who needs looks when you have money
Shame On You your mother
@@wirtz7223 nah
@@Kami-ny5jo because you can look pretty with money
"Yeah, but he had a rough childhood."
Cool motive, still murder
Yea no
The author maid me do it
Oh that's sad twenty years to life in prison bitch
Excellent use of the meme
This made me laugh
*"My tragic backstory is that the author forgot to give me any backstory."*
That can be a very interesting concept, if written correctly and in the right setting. I've seen it implemented in the manga "Are you Alice?".
Reminds me of that one Community episode. "The pain of not having pain is still pain. Now that may seem like an easy way out, but we're just actors, not authors."
@@shadowwolfcat13 Yeah, breaking the 4th wall is an interesting concept.
Sounds like it would be right at home in a comedy
I saw that and I was like, Holy shit! I actually used that backstory for a fantasy character! The entire premise of the story was the villain drawing the writer into the world to confront her about why she had written so little about his character.
He's so alpha he can JUGGLE those red flags.
Pun 💯
Meme worthy
He CAN juggle them, but juggling is fun, and therefore not alpha. Can't interrupt his brooding, donch know
*which only accentuates the presence of those rippling BICEPS™...he MUST secretly be a SUPER HUNKY CYBORG WEREWOLF™*
@@scottmantooth8785 but what if..he's actually a.. *REALLY BUFF SEXY ALIEN DEMON VAMPIRE HOT WEREWOLF DELL COMPUTER ANGEL ZOMBIE HUNK???*
You forgot the part where the rest of the male characters have to be far more horrible than the alpha male so alpha can seem better by comparison.
Or where they're SUPPOSED to be far more horrible, but actually end up a lot more likeable because the supposedly unlikeable traits the author piles on them are "being not-white and not a billionaire" and "being remotely pleasant to be around because that's not ALPHA SEXY".
Ah yes. The good old "the good guys are too evil, we need to make a more evil faction so that people will root for them" plot device, or as I like to call it, the "Chaos Insurgency Trick".
writer: *makes evil male character because fetish*
Also the writer: No, if I just make him like this everyone will hate him... well, here goes nothing
Writer: *creates scapegoat*
Horny Readers: *use scapegoat to justify why they don't actually like the story just because they find it hot*
@@demi-femme4821 I think that works if you want you Antagonist to be a villain like Mega Mind or Despicable Me
I call it darkening the pot.
Remember everyone, Hitler was also abused.
"I had a sad childhood" is not an excuse, and barely works as a reason.
And so were Stalin and Mao Zedong.
@@calebwheeler8143 every time people talk about Nazi there's always a comment trying to bring in Communist XD
@@eesmaaura4961 All imperialists are equally worthy of condemnation.
@@beybladeguru101 Including the Holy Roman ones
@@beybladeguru101 That's a shit ton of people. We even have a good number of them alive today!
50 Shades of Red (flags)
Sounds like an amazing book title.
The book the world needs but doesn't deserve.
❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Excellent *claps*
50 shades of red pi̶l̶l̶...
Also he can't have any emotions. Emotions are for women! But he can be sad, angry, jealous, sexually aroused, and punch a hole in the wall because the love interest is wearing a dress she chose for herself instead of the one he sent her as a gift, BUT none of that counts as emotion! He will constantly be described as stoic, and the heroine will constantly be made to feel worthless because of her "womanly emotions" which involve things like wanting basic rights and dignity.
"..he can be sad.." WHAT? NO.
Sadness isn't showing strength.
Only anger, jelousy, lust. And if he starts to feel sadness (shame on him), *he has to* channel it into anger.
And also no frustration - it impies something is out of your control.
Destroying a room because the love interest did something the Alphamale didn't like is of course a sign of passion not anger issues
B..basic rights and decencies! What do you think women are? People?! (This was a joke in case there are some idiots who can't tell)
Emotions that HE custom designed in his shop with a WELDER and SLEDGEHAMMER to suit his MANLY PERSONALITY the even CONAN would be intimidated by
Noemi Starlight
Not gonna lie. Even if I did get my GF a dress, I would care less whether she wore it or not as long as the dress in question was reasonably priced, not over expensive, and she at least likes it.
I think women like these characters because they appeal to their fantasy of a powerful, dominant, attractive, and masculine man who exists in a safe fantasy where his actions can't actually harm them. However, I doubt they'd like the same type of guy were he to exist in real life where he can actually do harm.
That actually makes sense
They would if he had money.
Yep. Like, lots of things I enjoy in fiction would be objectively awful if they happened in real life. One could argue one of the points of fiction is to allow the reader to indulge in a sense of danger while at a safe distance.
Its like an adventure genre. If you really want dangerous adventure you would join the army instead of reading those books on your couch. I am sure that 50 shades fangirls would run away from the male lead in real life, regardless of his looks and money.
@@svchineeljunk-riggedschoon4038 i don't really think money would change things that much, as they ultimately wouldn't be happy with someone who is potentially abusive or harmful in some way.
We need an alpha male story that abruptly ends with him being arrested instead of him fulfilling his wishes.
Bonus points if his love interest actually falls for a werewolf with a dad bod!
Or Sheikh Billionaire MacWerewolf becomes the dark lord.
Putting that on my to-do list!
The love interest should end the story eaten by a literal wolf.
Yasssss
Well, mine ended up with a 357 magnum round in his head after abusing his victim one too many times.
In various points, you can feel his sarcastic tone wavering. This trope is actually upsetting him.
And I understand perfectly.
Where?
When he gets to the point of abusive one sided relationships
Oh but, it's okay though.
Because he's *attractive.*
@@mitchellzollinger1100 3:29 that's what you were looking for.
Yea he just sounds like a sad, sad beta boi. Fuck if he ever wrote anything, it'd be so dull and bland even his mom wouldn't buy it
Dont forget the fact that his muscles are bullet and stab proof.
On the off chance that the sociopath ever actually gets into conflict with anyone other than his love interest.
And when a weapon *is* strong enough to penetrate his muscles, it doesn't hurt because his alpha-ness protects him.
Didn't you know that all alphas are layered in air thin layer of Contrivum (tm) and as such can't be harmed?
@@JaeStories87 Not even dr. bright with a chainsaw minigun (Dont ask how thats even possible) can kill him
Don't forget that his muscles need to have muscles!
"we go to bathrooms in groups to get away from this guy, now he's following me in my literature?"
- Jenna Moreci
Man, her channel is great too lol
@Karsyn zzstu Beauchamp You should also check out OSP's trope talks
MY PEOPLE
Okay, that quote’s too good. Now I have to check her out.
@@Larissawesome I highly suggest you do, she's an established author who makes videos on tropes and effective usage of them. Have fun lol
"My tragic backstory is that the author forgot to give me any backstory."
My god. That is the most tragic backstory to have tragic backstory-ed.
Glory to the empire.
So Sad....Alexa! Play Rewrite The Stars!
It’s like dr doofenshirts backstory but reversed
And to this episode’s sponsor
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@Awesome Foxes his tragic backstory is that the writers gave him ALL the backstory
The worst part of alpha Male characters is that they always think _they_ are the protagonists.
Yes, Thank You! There are moments when I love humans
Ain''t that cute?
*Mind flashes to Bakugo Katsuki*
The general clue is Alpha, and if the leader of the pack would think that they are the focus of the story... makes some sense.
You're so vain... You probably think this story is about you!
@@artofthepossible7329 Funny, Optimus Prime didn't dominate anything. The Autobots were always running to him for advice, and to bail them out of jams
No man, you have it all wrong. People are reading romance novels for the plot and it has absolutely, positively nothing to do with the greased abs on the cover. It’s the same reason anime fans get pillows of the best written characters.
@Rider450 Funnily enough a certain people aren't too vocal about that.
@Rider450 I honestly don't understand the hate twilight gets.
Was it good? Well, no. It was average written with bland characters.
But people need to stop acting as though it is the worst thing that has ever happened to society.
@Rider450 Good point.
And women definitely read it for the exploration of the main lead's psyche and not just the sex scenes
@@kashim4351
Are you talking about conservative Christians?
Take some of the Alpha's extra prose and donate it to the poor, starved-for-description Lovecraftian monster
That's only possible if your genre is tentacle porn.
He's a Vague eldritch horror who's got *killer abs*
You can't do that, because details make monsters less scary
eat the... people with so much prose it is horribly repetitive. Its a bit wordier than eat the rich but it'll do
G'Rxklly stopped and turned towards Mary Sue, his muscular tentacles glistening behind him. His perfect, wonderful 107 eyes all glowed sexily in the moonlight, as he tenderly picked up Mary Sue in his exquisitely molded eldritch armlegs and....ate her. Then he went back to destroying the world.
I just realize that DIO from Jojo is pretty much the alpha described in this video:
-Always shirtless
-Vampire
-Violent tendencies
-Rich
-Noble
-Bad childhood
-Buff
And people love him... A LOT...
Yeah and he's the villain. Jojo actually did this characterization right.
@@josephedmond3723 and they did it before this trope was a thing (i think)
And lookie here! He was done as a villain!
And just like others said, he’s a villain so it makes sense.
An alpha male could burn down an orphanage and still be considered the hero of his respective story. Why? Because he's got...ABS!
You all saw it! That orphanage attack me!
Or a Greek Hero. The Heroism came from badassery, not the moral code the hero has.
Sounds badass TBH
@@bificommander7472 Bender?
@@lordhater4207 Richard from the Looking For Group web comic, in an old ad banner.
Y’know, after that live action video on apology videos, I’ve come to realize that your avatar isn’t just a stolen epic face but it does truly look like you.
It's actually amazing to me just how similar the avatar looks.
It’s bizarre
SONO CHI NO SADAME
I wish I could delete replies to my comments
Wyatt I'm sorry, but it had to be done. Jojotards are eternal
Whenever I see an author that had a few original works, and then their bibliography is flooded with cheap romance, I imagine they were approached by a publisher with a big check and the phrase "do you want to make art, or do you want money?"
Zogger568 i mean, money sounds good
I'll take the money thank you very much
Can can I make both
@@mrboerger1620 only the greats can do both
What if you wrote some money-making machines and some passion projects?
95% of Wattpad werewolf stories have the world "Alpha" in the title.
And have the grammar of a five-year old, although they probably were written by one seeing as how their characters’ actions can only be seen as excusable and reasonable when you’re a little kid.
There G×B ( Hetero) Makes up all the Alpha titles
Haven't read one without an "Alpha" in the title.
Bruh that reminds me of Gacha stories.
Funny because the alpha wolf only exists in encaged packs
I imagine gals who unironically identify with Harley Quinn will feel personally attacked.
They have one hella of a good reason.
And maybe they see why it's stupid.
What's a Harley Quinn?
@@HighAdmiral Do you know the story of Harley in the Batman universe? She is a psychologist that gets somehow manipulated into loving Joker and becoming her sidekick, lover and punching bag.
She is the definition of a person loving an asshole that treats her like shit and that, if it's advantageous for him, would shoot her in the fucking head.
TLDR people romanticize that abusive relationship and romanticize abusive relationships irl
@Ashley Shane That girl would have had a way happier and better life if she never met the asshole.
That's the point of her whole character.
Originally she was just a hired help.
So basically, if your're going to write an alpha male character, just pour gasoline onto the fire started by Mr. Grey.
Yep.
We didn't start the fire...we just keep it burning and toxic.
@@johnathonhaney8291 It was always burning since the world's been turning.
I'm not well versed in romance novels but I feel that was only a big deal because of the slight BDSM slant the books had to it. Very slight. When I was trashing that book, an ex friend of mine thought I was being so closed minded about alternative romance stories like some older Russian movie, I think it was, that she knew of about a man that rapes a woman and then she falls in love with him. So.......... Yeah.
And toss in parts of the Elephant's Foot from Chernobyl for good measure.
Seriously, why does this character type appeal to anyone? The only appeal I can find in this type of character is imagining them getting boiled in oil until well-done.
Ah yes, the post apocalyptic selective breeding of humans for consumption. That's how they're all so identically buff and all had rough childhoods- they were bred to produce lots of meat and grew up on human farms. Only existing to eventually be slaughtered and cooked.
I would much more perfer that story than whatever hellscape those romance novels he was mentioning are.
Wait
Renegade? PPC Renegade?
@@jeanyeap4229 Oh, you know me?
@@r3negadex I used to be in the PPC myself, haven't been in touch because of real life
BDSM?
Love Interest: You've drugged me, dragged me to your summer vacation house, chained me in the basement, knocked out my brother when he tried to stop you, and then informed my friends that we would be taking an "extended vacation" together..... all because I didn't pick up the phone at 4am?
Alpha "Hero": You don't understand! I did it because I LOVE you! I can't live without you!!
Love Interest: *Takes in his washboard abs* I guess this is OK.
*SPOILER WARNING*
This is just the latter half of _You_
Why don’t we make love interest a bodybuilding man (albeit less psychotic) and the “Alpha ‘Hero’” a tentacle monster that wants to subsist off him and uses Aphrodisiacs?
Yeah I think I didn’t fix much…
At least the chain mail bikinis have faces. Thank you, we're more than abs. We have biceps too!
Gotta show that preety face and the fact that they are also a redhead just like everyother bikini armour barbarian girl ever
@@anduro7448 Hey! Sometimes there's a blonde. Lol
But do you have strong pectineus muscles?
@@gregorymckenzie7511 I'm an alpha male in a romance book, so I have no idea what that is! But I'm an alpha, so all my muscles are strong, especially the sexy ones!!!
@@anthonynorman7545 Okay, you just had me google if dicks are muscles. Thank god they aren't, so what are your sexy muscles?
JP pointing out abusive behaviors while also ripping apart romance novel characters is my new mood
That doesn't sound good
Rider450 It's a weird form of slang that means something you relate to. It's generally taken quite loosely, so it can be used in a lot of different ways while generally meaning the same thing
It's instagram teen talk
@@348joey what the actual fuck
I don't understand the confusion but the replies are priceless in amusement
“Just outright abducting her and taking her to his dungeon? It’s ok cuz- Wait that really happens in these books?!”
I love how he realizes how fucked up it is 😂
Change the girl protag into a Feminine Male, and you have the next top Yaoi.
Pretty much
Yup
Probably not the TOP Yaoi. If you know what I mean.
@@Slick-Salamander i see what you did
All gacha tubers:WRITE THAT DOWN,WIRE THAT DOWN!
Hmm, this alpha sounds familiar, but my mind is drawing a blank. Or rather, a "Grey"
hMMM
But wasn’t the grey just Liam neisan fighting wolf for 2 hours?
retsz But Christian Grey is a Gray character.
Double oof
Just one? I’ve come up with several shades. 50, in fact. Eh, I’m sure it’s nothing.
I have recently found interest in reading aloud several romance novels with my friends and laughing hysterically at them. And I have to say your video is totally on point. Some of the "attractive" guys in these books... well they're kinda terrible.
A Marvelous Geek please make a video of doing that, lmao 🤣
That would be epic! You may have struck gold with that idea.
It's not only romance novels but comics too, and also dramas. Especially ones from China. Jesus christ those ones from china. To be fair, most of them are adapted from novels themselves so I can't really blame the artists on the shitty plot.
If you want more of that stuff just go to Wattpad. This site is obsessed with the alpha male love interest for the female protagonist. It's downright frustrating, abusive and creepy. And boring. Like really boring.
Finding a good story with romance is really hard.
Reminds me of when I saw someone reading 50 Shades in 50 different celebrity voices.
@@obedientdrone1179 Nah. Please don't generalize us. Too many of us find this shit disturbing.
It’s like my grandfather said-
“Don’t be with a man thinking you can change him. You will fail.”
Fun fact about “alpha” wolves: Usually, wolf packs in the wild comprise of a small number (sometimes as high as 3, usually 1) of breeding pairs, with the remainder being offspring. The “alpha” role is usually collectively shared by the parents - they aren’t in charge because of some “alpha” trait, they’re in charge because they’re Mom and Dad to the rest of the pack.
So a werewolf with a dad bod is the true "alpha".
*I knew it.*
werewolf dad sounds awesome
@@WarmLusamine "Now listen here, put your dishes in the sink and do your homework!"
Wild Alpha wolf POV: When you have too many children…
So if all of those generic werewolf fanfictions want to be more accurate, they have to make the main character a 30 years old woman and the "alpha" a 35 years old man whose wife either died (a rumor that they mated for life but death might cut that) or it's a threesome (dad bods or abs optional since wolves don't care about those.). Tbh, I've never seen a romance story with both characters being more than an average of 33 years old.
This is just one big mockery of Fifty Shades of Grey.
Hmm, yes, and doesn't that tell us something about the quality of E.L James' writing
I..still never read fifty shades of gray before....and I,m afraid of trying to. Whats the summary exactly?
@@halkerpatterson519 Watch Dominic Noble's videos on it.
Halker Patterson there’s a book/movie reviewer called Dominic Noble. He reviewed both the books and the films.
As for a basic summary? Fifty Shades is one agonizingly long “romance” story that glorifies abusive relationships.
And Twilight...never forget that was the source Fifty Shades sprang from.
Roses are red,
Shirts are overrated,
Of course this one will always be
The one Mary Sue dated.
Nice! ^_^ But something seems off about the flow. The metre just feels wrong. What if we changed it to something like:
Roses are a crimson red,
Shirts are overrated.
Of course this one will always be
The guy Miss Mary dated.
Or perhaps the final line can be "The one Miss Sue has dated"
@@ChaosRayZero you seem good at poetry
Roses are red
I am only single
Fuck your goddamn rules
Love triangle
Which one?
@@someguy764
Would it be acceptable if the answer was yes?
I am now inspired to make a story where the “alpha male” is actually a reality bending Eldritch horror and he is manipulating the world around him
Pretty meta, that's normally the author's role
Honestly I actually posed a werewolf fanfic, but it was not like this lol… The alpha wasn’t the rpotagonist as per usual, but this time he is a teen, has nice parents, actually has enough self respect not to be a douchebag, and likes to wear scarves because they cozy (that last bit is rooted in the fact that I like to wear cozy scarves)
This but he's actually a nice guy (no not that kind of nice guy). Distaff Tsukihime!
Sounds like Sucker for Love
"I grew up in poverty!"
" You're still being arrested for arson, sir."
*puts suit on Alpha, still without a shirt* The equivalent of the females in armor but wearing a bikini top.
But that armor is effective because it's easy to move in and is protective because magic! Magic is perfect because it can do whatever the author wants it to while failing whenever it is ironic for it to happen
yeah you should still wear a tunic or something
@@kedarunzi9139 Or CARRY A DAMN SHIELD!!!!
Shadiversity viewers will know what I'm talking about.
@@t3chkn1ght but why carry a shield when you can have two cool looking swords duuuh
*Rising of the Shield Hero angry noises*
"It's okay when he does it because he's attractive!" this applies to both men and women in real life too! :D
Unfortunetly, that's reality.
Cardi B anyone?
Romance novels in general.
Given that people made "tsundere" fanart of a female murderer and a fake account of an attractive man who was self described as a "convicted pedophile" on tinder got a lot of positive attention, yeah
Look up Alcibiades careful don't mistake him for greek myth he was a guy who actually existed
"It's ok because he's attractive" is actually pretty accurate, also helps to be rich.
"Video Games Appeal to The Male Fantasy"
**MEANWHILE IN THE FEMALE FANTASY...**
at least, "male fantasy" is just girls with big ass and boobs
If the video maker was a simp himself, hed be cancelled
@@sirius6738 and some very small minority fantasizes rape
@@ronjayrose9706 and guns
@@infoniwceniocwdhvredidhave8126 I will admit, anthropomorphized firearms represented by sexually-attractive or cute girls that fight for the player as well as form meaningful relationships with them and seek to have fun on their own and comfort the player when they're down is all the rage for us
Make sure that, whenever the alpha male does something horrible, their romantic partner calls them out on it, only for her to be overcome with lust. After they f***, make sure that she gives up on the argument, because, you know, he had a hard childhood.
Don’t forget to make them get engaged after they knew each other for a grand total of 1 month and have the characters dismiss any suggestions at the possibility that they’re moving too fast.
Finally, remember that character development is difficult, so, instead of the alpha hero actually changing throughout the course of the book (as the female protagonist is “fixing him”), just have characters say that there’s been character development, despite there being little to no change in their behaviour
“because, you know, he had a hard childhood.”
Is that a The Dom reference?
@@wannabehistorian371 Yeah
Poke Emblem
No. It’s far to generic to be a reference. I don’t even remember The Dom saying those words exactly.
@@j2dragon109 I mean, the OP said themselves it was a reference to that exact thing, so...
LifeOnTheLedgerLines
Oh shit, I missed that. My bad.
I just want to see a video on mentors.
That is all
appelofdoom same!
I can get behind this idea :0
He's tried to. The stock mentor character died for dramatic effect less than a minute into the episode
They die. The end.
@@fireblast8972 but they give at least one lesson before they are wiped out, plus their are also the silly mentors that tend to have a higher survival rate.
"At least that's the version he'll use at court proceedings"
This gave me an idea. An Alpha Male book, but it's hin getting prosecuted for all the shit he does to the love interest
Edit: If you steal the story idea please at least tell the world you got the idea from a rando commentor on CZcams
Can do
My 1st D&D character: Human fighter set out to avenge their father.
My 20th D&D character: 6:01
Actually a romance novel with an alpha werewolf billionaire highlander scheich is one i'd totally read
Alpha werewolf billionaire highlander exists, more than once actually.
Highlander and scheich at once may be the only problem since they are two very different cultural circles that writers usually don't mix up.
HaichaoTeaLover ... Maybe if it's historical fiction. I'm reminded of a Highlander who fled Scotland and became regionally important in the ottoman empire during the Napoleonic wars
@@sleepysera "Alpha werewolf billionaire highlander exists"
The Parasol Protectorate series has one.
He's not exactly a billionaire, but he's very rich and a noble.
Dude, there’s so many alpha werewolf billionaire stories: one of them is “Master Of the city” its an erotica, a POORLY WRITTEN ONE, but if you want a good chuckle, read it.
Wasn't Sean Connery in Highlander supposed to be Egyptian? That at least gets us within the right geographic area. And it doesn't take that much to change the immortals into werewolves.
Everything in this video is true to live and I am living proof of that.
After locking the “legally” adult female (who is very sexy but average looking) into the basement my billion dollar mansion for 3 weeks, I started to feel a change in me for the better. It was during one of my many sweaty workout sessions with my personal hair stylist that her gazing eyes made me change and reflect.
they are always, average but sexy looking aren't they? i wonder how the readers can resolve the dissonance in their heads, i guess they can project themselves easier lol
@@Adventurewizard44 Yea they are meant for the readers to project themselves onto. The idea is that they are "Hollywood-ugly", as in, because they are usually so QUIRKY and DIFFERENT they don't know how to carry themselves well so they look plain and boring like most readers probably think of themselves. But if the power of falling in love thrusts them into self-optimizing mode or their new love interests gifts them pretty things, they show unexpected beauty and glam up.
There's also a ton of other stuff interwoven with that, like the fact that ignorance of one's charmes still is considered a positive trait, because a woman who is pretty and knows it and possible acts accordingly is considered an evil manipulator. The likeable protagonist can't be like that, they must think they are normal or below average while all the side characters constantly praise how stunning she actually is. Considering romance is mostly women writing for other women, it's ridiculous how much we stick to dumb, kinda toxic old-fashioned views on women.
@@Adventurewizard44 I think the average woman is pretty sexy.
@@alanfriesen9837 yes but do you think the average woman is so sexy you'll forgo anything else in the cosmos to -kidnap- get them to love you?
@@lolgamez9171 You have no idea how lonely I am.
...is it bad that I actually like that billionaire-highlander-werewolf's visual design?
Eh, I'd take a coffee mug of it
The golden rule for good romance novels is to replace the male character’s appearance with Danny Devito. If it doesn’t turn into a horror story, it’s a good romance novel.
What do you have against our man Danny Devito
Yes 😂😂😂
The video was about a trope of romance novels, and it never addressed love triangles? Oh no, the channel has been hacked!
The irony
The Alphas usually win the love triangle so it is not mentioned here.
Any true alpha would never suffer another male in his love interest's life.
@@ahniandfriends123 There are typically two alphas in the triangle
@@sleepysera That's why they need to fucking kill each other
"Price: $10.99, the respect of everyone else, plus tax"
So Alpha heroes are antihero yanderes. Got it.
Erland Drow Since when was Hera an Alpha male
@Based And Red-Pilled thanks ☺️
Except they don't even show the "hero" part making them straight up villains...
@@Eris250 neither do yanderes.
@ Well, the heroics that a yandere performs normally involves bricking me up
Don’t forget that the author must insert all of their sexual fetishes and fantasies into the story and apply them to the alpha male with the subtlety and class of a nuclear missile strike. Have the love interest be deeply obsessed with a certain sexual fetish in a totally not creepy way, and it should totally be okay for the love interest to either force or guilt the heroine to engaging in their fetishes without giving them much say. Have this fetish become the entirety of the characters relationship and sex life, making them engage in it so much that you have to wonder if the author wrote the whole story one handed and if their is any real love between the characters of just fetishizing lust?
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one. I've been looking forward to this. My writing powers have doubled since we last met.
And more prequel jokes.
This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!
Good, twice the pride double the fall.
This is where the fun begins
Have you heard of "The Tragedy of J.P. Beaubien the Writer"? It is a CZcams legend...
HE'S TOO DANGEROUS TO BE LEFT ALIVE!!!
3:33
"Wait that really happens in this books !?" *cut*
I laughed way too hard.
Beauty and the Beast
@@Der.Kleine.General
Nice meme.
@@Der.Kleine.General I just realized how much of a sleazy romance story Beauty and the Beast is.
@@mrnubnub4584 Except Bell goes to the beast? Like of her own free will.
@@SendarSlayer because of a little mental problem called “Stockholm Syndrome”, that makes captured people fall in love with their captors, in the original book belle wasn’t as much “his prisoner” as he was “his bride but not really his bride”
99.99% of comments: talks about alpha-male part of video.
0.01%: Actually mentions the interesting twitter sponsorship battle.
That battle was great!
Such a burn on 50 Shades and Twilight, and I love it. I think you swore revenge on romance novel "heroes" in an earlier video, and you carried it out brilliantly!
And since you brought up chainmail bikinis, do a video on sword-and-sorcery fantasies.
And opened with a burn on "pickup artists" for good measure
I should write a book using all of the terrible writing advice
It was done many times before.
Someone already has; the book is called Aeon Legion.
@@Somber_Knight Ouch.
@@Somber_Knight Hunger Games
DO IT
In my writing the male characters are only the most, arrogant, patronizing and shirtless characters in the book, usually when near females, who, by the way, are the most incompetent, useless and weak-willed characters in the book, now I just need to wait for that publishing deal to come in, it's coming any day now
I sure hope you let them contact you first. Asking for a pitch would send signals of weakness to the publisher.
You should kidnap the publisher's agent and blackmail them to establish dominance.
Why would you want to write something so close to reality?
@@remem95 Especially when it comes in the form of a form letter, those are always legit! I've already sent five payments to my publisher, my book should be coming out any time now...unless they need another payment.
Not if the Regressive Left SJWs would have something to say
"Oh that's just my money making ab monster" honestly the best thing I've ever read.🤣
Unpopular opinion time: romance is the easiest genre because those readers dont have standards.
It should be the popular opinion because it's true. No matter what it is, sex sells. It always does. You can have zero effort on anything, as long as you're good at describing how hot a character is you'll get reads.
It’s just fancy smut in general
Sadly, this is so true. Why do you think Twilight got so popular?
I mean, everything in literature has no standards. What's popular and sells is not an indicative of artistic success
@@JTHMRulez1 really unpopular opinion: I think Brandon Sanderson isn't really a very good author. He's had 1, maybe two good books
Remember to never ever show any weakness or flaw. People will totally feel better about themselves
Also if you're reading this and your name is Doug, Hi
When you are an alpha, you cannot show weakness, or your enemies would exploit it. Even worse! The love interest could start feeling like you are relatable, or can patch up the cause!
@@nazamroth8427 Cos if you try vigorously to show no flaws, it's probably because you have no flaws.
You show good taste in pfps. True alpha.
Oh, hello Opti!
@@D.Dragon I am everywhere doug
I see you
”...need a physician to diagnose and very specific medication..."
*dies inhaling coffee*
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
F for respects.
yeah because snorting instant espresso is one of the more clandestine seldom mentioned vices of billionaires
note: please do not try this as you actually risk serious sinus infections as a result and it turns your boogers all brown and nasty and people will think you are just weird...even if you are a billionaire and have lots of cool stuff
Topic Ideas:
Redemption/Corruption arcs
Twist endings/moments
Integrating themes
Creating tension
How to use a story's setting
Choices in video games
Descriptions in novels
Writing dialogue
I’m writing a fantasy romance novel right now, and I’m glad that this video lists basically everything I have avoided like the plague!
(AKA, don’t be 50 Shades of Twilight)
Writing a post apocalyptic story myself. I was going to write down notes to take into account from this video, then I realized that there were no notes for me to take that I haven’t already taken in the past, if that makes sense.
You can't spell "Alpha Heroes" without "R A P E".
Just Some Guy with a Mustache I have found him again
The waldo of CZcams
afootineachworld
and rich
And in need of “fixing”
Any relation to Just some guy without a mustache?
R. A. P. E! I know you like it when I R. A. P. E!
And rest assured if the female love interest gets pregnant the couple will always stay together. In spite of the fact that they only met literally a few months ago for a one night fling that in no way suggests they have any connections at all besides the child. And the marriage will never fall apart or divolve into a loveless relationship that can permanently scar the child thus defeating the purpose of staying together in the first place.
Wait, are people actually making those books?! And keep in mind, not all shotgun weddings end in divorce or a miserable marriage. It’s not advised to have one, but its not automatically doomed.
@@moonriverbaby4108 yes just look in a section of a bookstore with harlequin books, I think that's what there called, and look for a book that has baby somewhere in the title. Chances are you will find that scenario. And as for shotgun weddings mabe not all of them fail but I'm betting they have a higher chance of divorce later on in life.
staying for the children is a great reason to stay married
I like how he sounds legitimately surprised at some points.
Shows how...strange these stories are.
A true alpha will have Justin Timberlake's 'Sexy Back' play in the background every time he speaks.
Or 'Too Sexy For My Shirt'
Like Duke Devlin?
@@velvetsparrow Exactly like Duke Devlin.
"I'll have a medium number 2 with an iced t-"
*I'M BRINGING SEXY BACK*
"Oh, COME ON!"
You just reminded me of Duke Devlin from Yugioh the Abridged Series.
I cannot imagine what kind mental state causes someone to be attracted to this archetype. And I certainly don't want to meet them.
If you aren't attractive for them, than you're safe.
However some rich men complain about meeting similar women..
Masochistic, naive, insecure, abused
It's mostly like 40+ year old unhappily married mothers buying those books... don't think about it.
Don't talk to women.
i think the mental state you’re referring to is called the patriarchy
6:55 I just realized, I think Scar from Lion King deconstructs the negative portrayal of Alpha Wolves by showing just how realistically disastrous being one can be when they put themselves in charge.
Gaston would be anther example.
@@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 People always forget alphas are supposed to make for good daddies. Where's the tough guy being cute with his kiddos representation?
@@ValD98 Bowser
@@tigaliyt WE NEED MORE DAMMIT!
@@ValD98 Hell yeah
this describes literally every male character sarah j maas has written😂
It started out with a girl falling in love with a stalking vampire.
It continued with an emotionally abusive rich guy into BDSM (despite the fact that it did NOT AT ALL represent how real BDSM works)
Now we have a Netflix series about a crime boss holding a woman captive for a year to make her fall in love with him.
I wonder what the next step in "romance fantasy" will be. A woman falling in love with her rapist?
That's probably been done already, you know.
oh christain movies already got you covered there and the best part? you can totally tell they're all written by men!
@@en-voguepugh3472Wasn't the original book written by a women?
Oh god he brought up the 'childhood trauma' excuse, my most hated trope in all of fiction.
I'm feeling a mixture of rage and happiness I've not felt since...
That was the point
Hitler
truth
It's a good reason to be a villain but it's not an excuse to commit genocides :D
As soon as he said "the best qualities a man could have domestic abuse and control issues" I said oh he's gonna rip on 50 shades of grey
I didn’t know these horrible best selling romance novels were weirdly dark
Fun fact: the study that introduced the "Alpha-Beta" terminology was done on wolves in captivity. The same author did a study on wild wolves and found a more equal family structure
Edit: I made this comment early in the video. Just got to 7:30. I will leave this up as a reminder of my stupidity and to always watch to.the end of a video before commenting
I love this show so much, it's really helped me look at my writing and go "wait a minute my main character can't be Cthulhu, I need to be more unappollogetically racist" so thank you very much
I dunno, the metaphors behind Lovecraft's work are enough in themselves in my opinion. The Shadow Over Innsmouth is a warning over the dangers of racemixing, for example. Sometimes subtlety can work more effectively than blaring everything out.
Overly Sarcastic Productions made video about Lovecraft's themes. His racism was less about race itself, but more about "breeding" and social class.
@Hans Hanzo I'm going to ignore the misspelling of racist because it looks like english isn't your native tongue.
So, what book did this sympathetic nazi come from?
I'm curious if there's an author out there with enough balls to write a nazi in a sympathetic light.
@@alexanderticonuwu7591 Mein Kampf
@@alexanderticonuwu7591 that dosen't sound too hard actually,just make it some part of the hitler youth and from there you already have the theme of how people are affected by their upbringing and how quickly society can change by having the kid remember the time before the nazis
Someone needs to do a "Virgin Speculative Fiction Writer v. Chad Romance Novelist" meme.
"Chad Virgin Speculative Fiction Writer Vs. Virgin Chad Romance Novelist"
@@kingdonut8272 thank you
4:02- THANK YOU! I hate when writers try to justify characters being assholes with an "sad backstory".
a billionaire werewolf sheikh..... my new oc thank u dude 😂😂😂😂
*a billionaire HIGHLANDER werewolf sheikh
Anyone else get the impression this whole video is just a dig at Christian Grey?
I've often thought that some TWA videos are passive-aggressive reviews of other works.
Honestly, quite a lot of romance novels have the exact same plot. It sells, for inexplicable reasons.
The Ogre in Gotham reminds me a lot of what Christian Grey but more realistic...
@@alessandronavone6731 because it's a kink
@@Dave102693 yeah, but there's quite many to choose from. It's the frequency that's strange to me.
E. L. James called. She wants to use this as a template for her next novel, "Fifty Shades of Y i k e s"
Alpha male: like a sociopath
alpha wolf: like a parent
A very good daddy
I actually think that (for younger generations of women at least) the appeal of the alpha male is quickly dying off.
Now a days is all about emotionally distance, snarky dudes that have a soft spot for you.
Or Pretty soft boys that adores you in a completely selfless way and his life’s mission is to make you happy.
Tragic backstories and abs are still huge tho
I think that's probably better overall
Come to think of it that's sorta going back to where it all started: Mr. Darcy from Pride and Prejudice. He's the original brooding, prickly male romantic hero that the heroine changes for the better, but that involves the protagonist (and reader) actually learning about him and his backstory. And it's not just Elizabeth's love that changes him, it's telling him that he's got his head up his rear, him listening to her and taking it to heart, and doing the right thing even though he's convinced when he's does it he's lost all possibility of winning her (even though she does change her mind at the end.) Most romance novelists nowadays take the broody parts into outright sociopathy and then make him into a housekitten with a bit of unconditional love (and letting him emotionally or otherwise abuse her for a bit) in a way that flat out breaks suspension of disbelief. Then again, I'll admit it takes a bit for me to enjoy any romance plot. Like Charlotte said, "I've never been the romantic sort."
That’s far better than the heap of behavioural trash that is the typical Bollywood or Kollywood hero!
@@ScorpionViper1001 Also he actually DOES change for the better instead of the heroine just claiming that he did.
This gave me a vietnam flashback to A Court of Thorns and Roses, a book that I bought randomly thinking that it was a regular fantasy. Sometimes I wish I could unread it
Tamlin, huh?
I wouldn't touch that book with an 11.5 foot pole, but I read Throne of Glass by the same author. JP could devote several episodes to her "novels." TOG reads like an eight-year-old wrote it, and ACOTAR sounds like 50 Shades combined with the very worst of the "fair folk" craze.
@@polyhymnia701 well, I read the whole thing. I'm not going to defend it or change your mind, I'm aware that it has issues. I can just tell you that Feyra and Tamlin... Well, in second book she runs away from him. Okay, I'm not comfortable with Feyra and Rhys pairing, but story in second book is much better.
I'll quote my fav fragment. It's translated from polish, so it might be not exact:
"This night Tam'll let... powerful and terrifying magic enter his body [...] That magic'll take control not only of his body, but of his soul and mind as well, turning him into a savage hunter. It'll fill all of his thoughts with only one goal: finding a partner for tonight. Their connection will release the magic that will enter the soil, giving plants strength to grow for the whole year"
@@purpur5 yeah, I get your point. I mean in context it would make sense but still, yeesh
I don’t know if you can cover this due to the subject matter but it would be interesting to see you do a video on terrible writing advice on writing mental illness/trauma and how it’s romanticizes in media. Or how traumatic events are merely used to shock,the recovery is quick and a perfect cure, or they must forgive their attacker/abuser and must let them back into their life, must not be angry about it anymore.
Our society already does that. How many teachers do you know who punish students just for being angry? Everything in these novels are more a collection of things you never paid attention to.
Nionivek you...you have a really big ego you know that?
Such a negative opinion of someone, just because they have a different opinion.
@@Nionivek "Punish students for being angry"
Agression? Showing anger? Rebelling? What exactly?
If you start to talk to your teacher with an angry tone: yeah the teacher (and everyone else) doesn't have to tolerate you.
Angression - probably obvious.
Just looking angry - never heard about someone being punished than.
The school doesn't punish mental issues. Especially not if you don't avoid treatment.
But there is a difference between someone not tolerating you because you are angry... And them punishing you for it. A police officer who arrests you, not because you did anything wrong, but because you didn't like that they stopped you... Is an abusive officer. You are even going as far as to call natural emotional reactions as "Mental issues", it is no wonder that ADD/ADHD is an overprescribed diagnosis.
There's something funny about the Evil Empire getting cancelled on Twitter
I feel like we have some deep rooted psychological problems to unpack in romance novel industry.
7:24 - I already knew about the origin of the whole Alpha misconseption, but it always reminds me of that scene from Battlefield Earth where Terl (the main villain), wanting to know what's our favorite food in a attempt to bribe the protagonist to work for him, let him and other guys escape so he can observe them from afar. The problem is that they ended up in a place full of snow and nothing but rats to eat, and since the heroes ended up eating them, Terl assumed we humans like to eat rats.
Good to know that we humans have the same "inteligence" level of the Psychlos.
Someone was forced to read 50 shades. You have our pity.
1:10 I’m convinced he broke character here, This isn’t his persona I think that’s his actual thoughts imao
I once heard someone ask why men would think women like being dominated and controlled. My immediate response, "The success of Fifty Shades of Gray". She glared at me but couldn't say anything.
Look JP, I love you but you cant just read out christian greys character sheet to make a video
When I tell you that I SCREECHED-
Damn, you just described the main character of every single teenage romance novel ever
no he just described the main character,s love interest in every single romance novel ever
even the ones that don't sparkle
3:29 Wow that was so messed up that even the *parody* version of JP is completely appalled.
My favorite part of alpha males is that the guy who “discovered” them did more research later and found he was wrong. When he tried fixing his mistake he couldn’t because no one would believe him, they all liked the idea too much
>liked the idea too much
They just use it as an excuse to support their hierarchies and to harass people they don't like