Risk Of Rain 2 DLC kinda stinks | Seekers of the Storm
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- Hey everyone! Today I played a bit of Risk of Rain 2 and was a bit disheartened to discover the current state of the game after the DLC was released. I'll briefly cover some of the good and bad of the dlc in this short video. Let's hope Gearbox can fix it up soon...
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It is even worse on Xbox if you had a pre existing save from before the DLC you can not even progress past the main menu it refuses too load your save file
After I posted this I did see more about how console is mega screwed over rn with the update. It is really sucky. Hopefully that'll get fixed soon.
PS5 is as much screwed.
There was a level of care and polish that it felt like Hopoo had for the game that unfortunately just isn't there with gearbox. More RoR is still more RoR, but it feels like a shame the IP moved over.
I rather just play SOTV as a functional game.
A while back a youtuber broke down that more items and interactable isn't what Risk of Rain needed. This is why the void items are so popular because they don't bloat the item pool by introducing corruption mechanics. This DLC should have focused on doing the same thing, because we already have a strong item pool but all the additions they made just fall flat. They all come off as half baked and only really meet mod item standards.
I’m a little sad that the dlc isn’t as polish, the False Son is clunky as best imo
Bootleg Mithrix (False Son) doesn't do it for me with his Janky Animations and Umbral Mithrix wannabe attacks
The only similarity between the two bosses is they both carry a blunt weapon
Every time I have fought him I've killed him too quickly to really get a good look at his phases/animations so I don't have a whole lot of input on that yet.
it is far better than voidling imo. Mithrix is still the most fun tho
This whole DLC feels like an asset flip of *Risk of Rain Hostile Worlds*
@@ralphclearwater9777 how do you figure, we had almost no idea what was in hostile worlds outside of some gacha system
Not to mention a different studio was making hostile worlds
I got hit with a bug that is apperently quite common where after a second launch of the game makes you stuck at an endless 3% loading screen, and even if you re-verify the game's files this will happen after every second reboot. Turns out there's a bug that will curropt and re-curropt your local files which completely soured my opinion for this game.
Luckily I haven't had to deal with that and hopefully I never will. That is absolutely horrendous.
I really can't be surprised. Most gearbox Risk of Rain 2 related releases all felt like they weren't playtested. They really just don't have the same level of care as Hopoo and it really disappoints me they sold the ror2 ip to gearbox
I was not surprised i used to play on console until it took 2 years for survivors of the void to come out and gearbox could never make a console release that didn’t have insane bugs. It's honestly still super fun and the bugs don't really bother super bad as I've dealt with invincible mithrix and my save data getting constantly wiped so as long as the save data thing isn't on PC i think I'll be fine since this is nothing new to me but i do feel for my console players out there as they're dealing with another save wipe bug
Yeah, right now most of the bugs don't completely break the game other than Mithrix and the underground one. So it is mostly playable and I'll definitely continue playing it. It just takes me out of it a bit when I see at least one strange bug per world I teleport too. Either way though I definitely feel for the console players as well. While our boat is taking in a bit of water, theirs' has pretty much sunk at the moment.
@TheStratRat I remember the days where I would get on xbox after the moon update and my save data was gone. I did so many one runs on commando it's not even funny 💀
Difficulty scaling also got harder, you get tons of elites super fast, and god forbid you hit the Combat shrine.
I feel like another big issue is the Devs dont want to change any base-game stuff before Gearbox got the IP, because then it would just be them barging in and changing the game that Hopoo made.
So it becomes a thing where they want to improve the game but can only do it by adding stuff, not removing or reworking pre-existing stuff
Dont get me wrong i would lobe Item Buffs or changes to stuff like Pillars. But its like the question of if you fix and replace every part of a boat, is it the same boat?
But they did change pre existing stuff. Like Acrid's Utility move doesn't collide with enemies anymore. I prefer is they just added new stuff and kept the old stuff the same
@@bath4437 i mean that might just be a bug, on Console acrid's leap didnt collide unless you had enough movement speed to cause the actual collision similar to Mercenary's boop on flying enemies. So that might just be universal now
When I was playing I noticed a few things they did change from the base game, such as prayer beads being a green item now instead of a lunar item (EDIT: I mixed up items so ignore the prayer beads bit). I do agree though, that likely is part of the issue. I don't think they can really go back and change a whole lot without upsetting a portion of the player base. Another issue I bet they're having is the obvious of all of the devs being new to the game's code. Working on code made by another person can be incredibly difficult and a lack of understanding can cause issues to pop up in areas they wouldn't expect.
Except they reverted the change Hopoo made to the void cells. On release Void Cells didnt tick the time, so going there ASAP was mandatory every run because it was free power. Hopoo changed it to tick time to balance it but added chests and printers to it to make it fair. Gearbox reverted it to not ticking the time but left the chests and printers, so its stronger than ever.
@@TheStratRat Prayer Beads and Beads of Fealty are two different items that do very different things
hopoo never should have sold the ip
SURPRISE SURPRISE Gear box fucking up a great IP! I hope they fix it soon. Xbox version is cooked rn and i wanna play man. The good news is that as the old saying goes CHRIS DONT MISS!
Mul-T's bug was already in the game
I used to play mul-t all the time and never ran into it before. Maybe I just got lucky beforehand because post dlc I ran into it every time I got frozen
I still have 2 major QOL things I want. Seeing item descriptions for the AoC as well as shrines you look at. I literally lost a run because I didn't know what a Shrine of Order did. A long one too. Also saving and quitting. Runs can get extremely long and I hate that I need to cheese it or mod it to work around what should be a simple feature.
Had my own gamebreaking bug. Had to start over. Couldn't damage anything, also couldn't take damage.
I kept clipping through terrain as the seeker
I wonder if they were stuck in the menu to😂 still hyped but I was up all morning just to not play anything
It was not playtestesd at all, just the main menu is full of bugs, you restart the game your option are by default, just how is that not fixed already?
Also enemies stop spawning for sometimes 30 seconds, they were aware of all this 100%, i knew gearbox would not make a great job, but for the price i'm actually disgusted of what i got.
to be fair enemy spawns having this long pauses was also in base game and last dlc, but yeah, it is a little funny how gearbox can't get things right in case of items, animations and balancing of new survivors and getting things to a playable state
The first dlc had a ton of bugs on release as well, and the playing the game with 4 players on the ps4 ver. Had tons of bugs. It’s frustrating, but I’m sure they’ll be worked on
@@lynxishd9587 I started playing I believe a month or so after that dlc came out so I didn't know it came out buggy but either way it shouldn't of happened in either case. Especially to this extent but I hope it all gets fixed up soon as you said.
@@TheStratRat I see, but yea thats true, it’s super frustrating for a community so deprived of content. I can’t wait to play the ps5 version when the update is free as promised, cause rn it’s still $25.
It wasn't fundamentally broken like this one was though, it goes beyond just bugs
I hope they fix everything modder are being discouraged because of the messy code. And mods help a game more replayable
a shame, indeed. at least we know hopoo is a very solid game company and I am excited for what else they will be putting out in the future!
I had a question if you wouldn't mind answering. So, I'm in the camp that this is the last DLC for RoR2. Playing the odds and numbers game in my head, there is no reason for a bureaucracy as bloated as Gearbox is, and for how many moving parts, dev costs, and labor intensive work that would be required to keep producing content for a game that's, let's be fair, really small compared to their other portfolios. I think there will be like.... 4 patches? Maybe? And then some form of sequel or other venture to justify the IP acquisition cost. That's a pessimistic view, but seems likely to me.
My question though is, would it have been better for the IP to not have been bought at all, and we would go on with the knowledge Hopoo would sit on it and do nothing. Like, is Seekers of the Storm better for having existed, or would it have been more "graceful" for SoTV to have been the last gasp of the series.
I don't have a good answer, but I'm curios to your thoughts.
I think as long as gearbox actually fixes up the bugs rn, then I'm definitely glad they bought the IP. If they don't then I'm not too sure, because beforehand not having nearly any bugs in the game was pretty nice, but at the same time, the new content is great.
I'm also not sure how long Gearbox will really make use of the IP. I hope they'll make good use of it and am pretty sure they'll keep making content for a while (if they recover from this DLC). Also, the game has nearly 200,000 reviews on steam, I definitely think its large enough to condone long term usage of the IP.
Hopefully these answers can help with your curiosity haha :)
New dlc has bug? who would have thought
Blame the people who brought gearbox
Tbf when most games get released or have major updates there are quite a few bugs
Even when sotv came out there were bugs
Just give gearbox some time to fix them, there are too many videos talking about how the game is ruined because of these bugs
We need to point these bugs out to gearbox and have a little faith that they will fix them soon
Also im not disregarding anybody who has an issue with these bugs, but don't just hate gearbox because they're here on day one
I personally have no problem with gearbox and had high hopes. My main problem is that they released the game in a state that is obviously very buggy. A bit of playtesting should've made that clear. It is 100 percent expected to have bugs on launch, but there are just so many. I think its questionable that they released it in this state.
Overall though, I agree with the sentiment of not hating gearbox just because they're gearbox. I still have some hope they'll fix it up (hopefully they don't squander that haha).
@@TheStratRat that's true, there are too many bugs that they should've found during playtesting, especially the issues on console
The console bugs are especially egregious
@@Mystician13 I really can't believe they sold the dlc with the console bugs rn. Those bugs are atrocious.
I mean, when you get unfinished product it is in place in my opinion to point them out and not to be fond of them. The DLC as it is is a mess, and accepting that with mindset of "oh most games have bugs when released" digs bigger hole for consumers by accepting this as a new standard. Gearbox worked for their reputation for years, so to be honest, don't expect big improvement for the dlc, or not a fast one, because this company is getting only worse and it peaked at borderlands 2.
tbf i agree its not great plus the 15$ pricing is crazy
For the buggy mess it is, 15 is a bit much. If it wasn't buggy, I think 15 would be fair.
I haven't had any major bugs or issues
Nice. At least someone gets a chance to play haha. On my end there are so many bugs its crazy. Still playable in most cases, but buggy nonetheless.
Then you are extremely lucky.
Remember that all of this happened mainly bc a lot of people wanted the dlc rushed out.
Also the new devs being stuck with the hoopo spagheti
I don't think the consumers are to blame to want something to come out sooner. It comes down to the company in the end. But you're right about the code for sure. It is very difficult to work on code that you weren't a part of from the beginning. Another example of this would be Helldivers 2. They're update fiascos tend to come down to the fact the guy who did a lot of the core systems isn't there anymore.
@@TheStratRat there is a lot of cases where the fact that the consumers wanted an earlier release caused the higher ups to want to fasten the dev proses causing crunch, this is the same case and this wont stop happening for a long time, maybe is not 100% blame to the consumers but it is a big part of the problem to say the least
@@johancito16345 Can you point to any cases where something was reasonably delayed (lets say not more than a year) where the negative effect of the delay verifiably outweighed the added time working on it. It feels like people may say they are impatient, but time and time again they will eagerly wait for game drops (see elden and its DLC), and respond well to a good product, where if something does come out sooner but worse, there are more complaints.
As a layman, it seems that studios should know that a better product trumps a quicker release 9/10 (10/10?) times.
Blaming the consumer is a crazy take ngl
@@XXETU972 nah you tweaking, leave my multi-milion company alone
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i was so hyped :(
Let's hope they can fix up some of the major bugs soon so we can go back to enjoying the game we love to the fullest
Bugs bad, dlc good.
It’s still better than nothing
Ehhh, maybe. I think all the new content is cool, but if I can't play the game without running into constant bugs it does make me question if I would rather just play pre dlc.
It's not though, these bugs are included with the free update, so you can't just opt out of buying it to avoid the issues
The bar is literally at the floor then lol
I hate this argument. You can't say "better than nothing " at a free update for a game that made the game objectively buggier, let alone a paid DLC. We paid for content, we got content, content we can barely play through.
To be fair, I bought the dlc on the same day and play on switch, but I understand where you guys are coming from.
I hope all these problems get fix before the end Fall