The Regal Heart of King Dedede - Designing For Kindness

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  • Designing For is a series which looks at a level, boss, or concept in gaming, and analyzes a theme central to its design. In this episode, we look at Kirby's rival, King Dedede, and how he has slowly developed from a simple bully into a full-fledged hero in his own right, and how it's all thanks to the simple kindness Kirby inspired in him, one that he wants to now show to others.
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    Twitter: / designing4games
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    Director/Writer/Voice Over/Footage: Tommy Eyler/Pyrrhickong ( / pyrrhickong )
    Video Editing/Additional Direction: The Duke of Dorks ( / thedukeofdorks )
    Intro Animation By: / @tarvouldsquest
    Intro Theme By: / tracks
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    Also check out our episode on Kirby's Lore, and how Kirby represents the feelings of friendship that Dedede can't help but fall for: • The Lore of Kirby -- ...
    Or any of our friends' videos on King Dedede; the monarch deserves as much love as possible, and there's plenty of details and angles we didn't have the chance to cover here!
    Silvery: • A HISTORY OF KING DEDE...
    Indigo's Findings: • The History of King De...
    PurePari: • Fiend Turned Friend: T...
    0:00 - Dedede, He’s The King of the Show
    2:59 - In The Ring of the Mountain King
    6:26 - His Majesty’s Nightmarish Adventure
    8:26 - Dark Matter Despot
    11:18 - squeak squad i guess
    12:18 - Revenge of The King
    15:28 - Sultan of Spin-Offs
    18:12 - Czar of Subspace
    20:30 - The Triple Deluxe King Has Returned
    22:02 - A Brief Dededetour
    24:43 - Robobot Regent & Star Ally Superior
    26:07 - The Ruler’s Final Roar
    29:59 - The Power of Kindness
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Komentáře • 801

  • @ConnorTheUndying
    @ConnorTheUndying Před rokem +1111

    One of my favorite details of Dedede's development is that throughout almost _every game,_ Dedede is described as the self-proclaimed King of Dreamland.
    However, when Star Allies rolls around, the description changes.
    He's now a self-_made_ king.

  • @makoman295
    @makoman295 Před rokem +807

    King Dedede sacrificing himself to save ONE Waddle Dee completely broke me.

    • @AkameGaKillfan777
      @AkameGaKillfan777 Před rokem +82

      I knew he'd be fine, those were just a bunch of grunts and even just one hammer he can do a LOT of damage with. I don't blame the Waddle Dees though, because their reunion after he came back to his senses was short-lived.

    • @makoman295
      @makoman295 Před rokem +78

      @@AkameGaKillfan777 Oh yeah, DDD would definitely be fine I wasn't worried for him, cause like you said he can handle himself. It's the act of sacrificing himself that is touching. Cause like this video says we basically watch DDD grow to be a respectable ruler as the series goes on.

    • @AkameGaKillfan777
      @AkameGaKillfan777 Před rokem +40

      @@makoman295 Yeah, you can even see the Waddle Dees in the Elevator to Lab Discovera are sad about him staying behind. He's also nice enough to give you the Masked Hammer Blueprint, which is one of the strongest weapons in the game.

    • @flameblade3
      @flameblade3 Před rokem +21

      When I got there, I swear I shouted in my head “NOOOOOO!” And then seeing him ok after the final battle had me so relieved

    • @pbscraze
      @pbscraze Před rokem +9

      King Dedede: I know I ain’t gonna make it in time…..(knows what he must do) KIRBEH!!!! (Tosses the waddle Dee right to him at the elevator just before it closes) Get them Waddle Dees to higher ground!!! (Takes out his trusty mallet facing the animals) A king’s job is NEVER DONE…..!!!!!

  • @Garrulous64
    @Garrulous64 Před rokem +3121

    I live in constant fear that someone someday will be making a Kirby game and un-do all of Dedede's development from over the years. I really hope wherever they store the Kirby series bible they've got Dedede down as the stubborn yet caring King of Dreamland we all love so there's no question about it.

    • @ayo.2022
      @ayo.2022 Před rokem +411

      I feel this, but honestly Kirby is probably one of the most consistent platformer series out there in regards to characters, development and lore, so I wouldn't worry too much about that. I do just hope that they expand on character roles a bit more later down the line and not forget about them, however; not even just Dedede, but even things such as Meta Knight's role as a mentor rather than just another rival for Kirby.

    • @narxmagee727
      @narxmagee727 Před rokem +290

      @@ayo.2022 Meta Knight did get a small bit of development in Forgotten Land. He made it through his first full possession resist so considering what's happened in the past, that's pretty admirable.

    • @ayo.2022
      @ayo.2022 Před rokem +106

      @@narxmagee727 agreed, that alone boosts my respect for the guy. Let's hope he can keep this up in later games too

    • @2Blades564
      @2Blades564 Před rokem +48

      i dunno, every time hes a boss these days they go out of their to show hes been 'hijacked by ganon, so to speak.

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 Před rokem +52

      Maybe after this point King Dedede will also no longer be enslaved by an enemy because “he really need to do a better job protecting the Waddle Dees” or something and that motivation will make him immune to corruption, swaying, manipulation or coercion.

  • @FunkyyP
    @FunkyyP Před rokem +1160

    One of my favorite things about Dedede is how in every game before star allies it calls him the self proclaimed king "described as or proclaimed to be such by oneself, without endorsement by others." But star allies changes it to the self-made king "having become successful or rich by one's own efforts." Showing he's grown so much as a character that he's truly earned the title of King of Dream land.

    • @supersmashbro596
      @supersmashbro596 Před rokem +60

      i think revenge of the king (aka the remake of the extra mode of dreamland 1, so like, the end of dreamland 1.) after having his waddle dees support him he was quick to grow up and take the role of a good leader.
      and in adventure he pretty much proves to have been actually a good king trying to defend his homeland from nightmare, kirby just misread everything.
      and come forgotten land, he truely shows while yeah, hes a lazy goofball showboat, when he needs to act, he shows why his waddle dees are so loyal to him. he's *always* had their back as much as they had his. why else would they go along with his plan to steal dreamlands food if not out of loyalty.

    • @DandyDoondin
      @DandyDoondin Před rokem +11

      Awwww

    • @NormDeMoss
      @NormDeMoss Před rokem

      He wants to be a lazy, showboating jerk who rests on his laurels for the rest of his life, and he doesn't care how many folks he has to care about, help, and risk his own comfort and safety for in order to do it.

  • @EeveeMaster547
    @EeveeMaster547 Před rokem +1725

    I absolutely adore how _gentle_ Dedede is while saving the Waddle Dee in Forgotten Land. He doesn't pick them up (until after they're okay at least) or yank them up. He puts his hands out and patiently waits while the Beast Pack approaches. He just patiently lets the Waddle Dee pull themselves up using him as a brace.

    • @quagsirefan8946
      @quagsirefan8946 Před rokem +181

      Yes! I remember it was so touching when I first got to that scene, especially considering how he USED to fling around Kirby like in 64. Admittedly, it wasn't Kirby he helped up but still, it shows how much more caring he has become over the years, really becoming a more gentle soul at heart.

    • @DarkAngel-jo8ix
      @DarkAngel-jo8ix Před rokem +81

      Then nails Kirby to cushion the waddle dee’s fall

    • @acedelta12
      @acedelta12 Před rokem +25

      @@DarkAngel-jo8ix That wasn't intended by him.

    • @allison6906
      @allison6906 Před rokem +51

      @@acedelta12 He probably wanted Kirby to catch the waddle dee. But even though Kirby is powerful, it seems that he has trouble catching stuff 😅

    • @mohawk1010
      @mohawk1010 Před 8 měsíci +8

      ​@@allison6906power (and possible incarnation) of a god, but still the mind and body of a child

  • @noahjohnston9958
    @noahjohnston9958 Před rokem +536

    If Meta Knight is Kirby's father figure as the fanbase likes to headcanon him as, then Dedede's Kirby's goofy uncle.

    • @Yirggzmb
      @Yirggzmb Před rokem +63

      I see Dedede as a sorta "big brother" figure, personally

    • @kewadee490
      @kewadee490 Před rokem +9

      @@Yirggzmb And bandana?

    • @queenofuganda7718
      @queenofuganda7718 Před rokem +64

      I see him as the second dad. The fun dad that gets his kids ice cream and pizza when they get good grades in school or win at junior sports events.
      While Meta Knight is the lawful dad that makes sure his kids get enough vegetables and sleep.

    • @ZE.brigitte
      @ZE.brigitte Před rokem +43

      @@queenofuganda7718 Honestly, I see Bandana Dee as the shy cousin that want to be like the other, because I can't see Meta Knight going like "Get some sleep and eat your vegetable" considering he is a sweet toothed night owl

    • @Troublethecat
      @Troublethecat Před 7 měsíci +2

      The fanbase's headcaonons are wrong, as they often are. Meta Knight is not Kirby's "father figure" and he never has been. At all. Ever. Not even in the anime. Meta Knight is Kirby's rival. Dedede is his sort of rival turned friend and Banadana Dee is just Kirby's friend. They are not "a family" and they don't need to be. I hate how fandom always tries to force family dynamics on characters for no reason.

  • @narxmagee727
    @narxmagee727 Před rokem +1289

    To me, I feel the Masked Dedede fight is very symbolic. Have you ever thought about why Dedede where's a mask in that fight. It doesn't make much sense, especially when fighting Kirby, who's seen his face on multiple occasions. I feel like even Dedede knows that he's not intimidating enough both in looks and how he conducts himself. Nobody takes him seriously. That's what the mask is for. To make clear to Kirby and himself, that he isn't screwing around anymore. The Dedede with the big goofy expressions and charming buffoonery and the Dedede in the electric cage with a jet hammer are 2 completely different people. This is a grudge match to finally put to bed this animosity the King has toward 'ol pinky and he's gonna make sure both sides don't hold back. Y'know, I'm almost ashamed at how much thought I put into a fat penguin putting on a mask to fight a piece of bubblegum. Almost.

    • @pengie-gw2lu
      @pengie-gw2lu Před rokem +177

      It's not just that. His first fight with Kirby was in front of a crowd, where his face and personality are plain for all to see. It's a spectacle, and one he expects to win. On the other hand, his final match obscures his face, and the only one in the crowd is his most loyal subject. He's not here to entertain or impress. He's not even showing his face, and his only spectator is the person he told to flee. He forces Kirby to take the best copy ability for bosses in the game, and equips himself with the best weapon he can possibly get his hands on. This is a true battle.
      (Man, 5am on no sleep makes for a great time for considering a penguin fighting ravenous bubblegum.)

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 Před rokem +70

      That’s what the point of the mask is

    • @Amparito847
      @Amparito847 Před rokem +28

      Another point is that maybe he is trying to emulate Meta Knight by wearing a similar mask and giving Kirby a similar weapon (we can be clear that their weapon aren't the same as their base form)

    • @EmeraldMan25
      @EmeraldMan25 Před rokem +16

      The only problem I have with that is that Revenge of the King seems to have Dedede as still evil. He stole 3 out of 5 Sparkling Stars again, which still screws over his own people. Yes, he's kind to his own henchmen, but he's still not all too kind to most others yet.
      I think a better example of Dedede giving it one last shot was in Kirby Fighters 2. Dedede, and Meta Knight.
      They challenged Kirby in order to give it one last chance, and try to prove once and for all that they are the great warriors of Dream Land. After their master plan ends up getting each of them possessed, and their combined power still not being enough to defeat Kirby, they finally accept defeat, acknowledging that they will never beat Kirby, and it's pointless to try and fight against him. Dedede and Meta Knight will never again be the heroes of Dream Land, at least, not alone.

    • @narxmagee727
      @narxmagee727 Před rokem +32

      @@EmeraldMan25 By no means is this the best explanation, but I interpret Dedede stealing some Sparkling Stars as incentive for Kirby to have to come to the castle, with him acting before thinking like he usually does. Fighters 2 is at a much later date so maybe Dedede realised that he could just invite Kirby, no strings attached.

  • @Avathestarwarrior
    @Avathestarwarrior Před rokem +1091

    Dedede is more that a redeemed villain, but a perfect example of a true rival and a friend. I always get upset when someone says that Dedede is evil. Well I mean sure, he was. But that's over 10 years ago. Dedede would always be considered as a hero and a good rival in our hearts.
    +Holy shit 142 likes???!!

  • @tntvale3763
    @tntvale3763 Před rokem +1214

    Dedede is probably one of the best exemple of character growth I can think off...And he's a wonder in Videogame's ground, don't y'all agree ?

    • @corentincursoux5852
      @corentincursoux5852 Před rokem +10

      Yes I agree 😑😌

    • @abcdefgee
      @abcdefgee Před rokem +57

      Yeah, his arc is really well done. And I'm surprised being tossed around from developer to developer, his arc is so consistent (except for squeak squad)

    • @somerandom9464
      @somerandom9464 Před rokem

      YES

    • @2Blades564
      @2Blades564 Před rokem +5

      ​@@abcdefgee i mean, hes not really a part of the focusin that game so hes more or less the same overall

    • @abcdefgee
      @abcdefgee Před rokem +1

      @@2Blades564 did you watch the video

  • @AdriftInVR
    @AdriftInVR Před rokem +320

    When I was younger I used to think the brooch Dedede had on during that subspace scene was always meant for Peach, but accidentally got on him since they seemed to be sticky, but seeing it from the perspective of the brooch being meant for himself and choosing to instead give someone else a chance makes me appreciate his character all the more.

  • @WingedFish66
    @WingedFish66 Před rokem +206

    "If saving the life of a loyal subject means my sacrifice, then I choose to die a king."

  • @carlkoopa7389
    @carlkoopa7389 Před rokem +232

    "he's a funny penguin who tries very hard except when he doesn't" is a perfect surface level analysis, and I'm glad this video of the in-depth journey he's gone through
    Probably one of my favorite characters in videogame history

  • @erinbrown3744
    @erinbrown3744 Před rokem +129

    My first Kirby game was 64. They didn’t name him in anything but the theater section of that game, so I always called him “my penguin pal.” I loved the sections of the game when he let you ride on his back. Then the anime comes out and blindsides me with their characterization of him. Even in the ONLY non-spinoff game where he was evil (the first one), it felt less like a greedy king letting his citizens starve and more like a bully in kindergarten taking everyone’s snacks because he’s bigger. Then he takes the little quiet kid’s snack cake and he goes postal.

    • @PastelHime
      @PastelHime Před 10 měsíci +10

      I love every statement made in this comment LMAO

  • @NineTheLuk
    @NineTheLuk Před rokem +321

    One think I'd like to add, is that Dedede joined the gang in 64 because he didnt want Kirby and the others to get hurt

    • @yeezoyoutube
      @yeezoyoutube Před rokem +34

      His kindness is truly the one _think_ you can never replace

    • @Potato_tomato47
      @Potato_tomato47 Před rokem +11

      You know I never thought about it I always thought he just wanted to show up Kirby and be the hero but your idea is way nicer to think about

  • @superspider64
    @superspider64 Před rokem +452

    My favorite descriptor for DeDeDe is the grumpy yet caring uncle of the main dreamland group (i.e. DeDeDe, Meta Knight, Kirby and Bandanna Dee)

    • @BlakeAtStake
      @BlakeAtStake Před rokem +32

      That's how I would describe meta knight

    • @licenciadoencomerasado9364
      @licenciadoencomerasado9364 Před rokem +63

      I think he's more like a bullying big brother that always takes the opportunity to annoy, but still fondly care about his smaller ones

    • @superspider64
      @superspider64 Před rokem +51

      @@BlakeAtStake I feel like Meta Knight's more the methodical, distant yet caring father figure, testing Kirby every so often to make sure he's ready for what lies ahead

    • @Cosplaythief
      @Cosplaythief Před rokem +47

      @@licenciadoencomerasado9364 Bullying big bro indeed feels like 64 Dedede. Like he is nice but can't resist a prank. To be fair, I'd prank 64 Kirby too, he makes funny faces.

    • @buttpiratesbuttpirate5913
      @buttpiratesbuttpirate5913 Před rokem +8

      @@superspider64 this guy gets it

  • @yeggeg
    @yeggeg Před rokem +594

    This is perfect. It shows how King Dedede changes unlike other final bosses of games. After so many years Bowser still just kidnapps the princess for his evil deeds, while King Dedede goes from a Tyrant to a hero who would risk everything for any one of his subjects.

    • @maxlimit9129
      @maxlimit9129 Před rokem +60

      part of me has a gut feeling Bowser might be moving forward after the SMO ending at the very least

    • @matti.8465
      @matti.8465 Před rokem +67

      I wish mainline Mario games did like the RPGs and made Bowser a goofy begrudging ally.

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 Před rokem +19

      They might after this point if they make it a point to respect Princess Peach’s wishes about not being captured or wooed.

    • @malhaomalhoa7486
      @malhaomalhoa7486 Před rokem +7

      Good! Bowser is perfect as he is. No need to change him.

    • @Rediscool9
      @Rediscool9 Před rokem

      @@maxlimit9129 No he’s not. Bowser’s a dick and will forever remain a dick.

  • @fallen_entity
    @fallen_entity Před 6 měsíci +16

    I like how they keep forgetting how big he is so he keeps changing in size

    • @Neonclown_7
      @Neonclown_7 Před měsícem +4

      Canonically, Kirby can fit in his hand. Dedede is like 2.5 meters tall.

  • @mega6662
    @mega6662 Před rokem +386

    Finally someone highlights the true face of the king of dreamland

  • @mittycommitspizzatime92
    @mittycommitspizzatime92 Před rokem +21

    “They fight with each other, and although not always conventionally, they are basically good friends.”
    - Shinya Kumazaki talking about Kirby and Dedede’s relationship in a RTDLDX interview

  • @Grace-ir8er
    @Grace-ir8er Před rokem +615

    This video was absolutely incredible - not only did you go into a legitimate deep dive of almost every aspect of the series (as a fan of the Kirby novels I was delighted to see someone actually acknowledge them!), but I think this is the first video I’ve seen that actually _gets_ Dedede as a character. So many people have characterized him as some grand villain or an innocent penguin who can do no wrong, but he’s not either of those, just a king who knows who he used to be and strives every day to get better. Your line about how Dedede’s core never changed but the way he interacted with others did especially struck me, as I’d never thought of it like that before. An all-around incredible video, and one that I hope more people see.

    • @castform7
      @castform7 Před rokem +19

      I also never thought of it that way. I feel like I always failed to recognize the fact that who Dedede is hasn't changed but the way he conducts himself around others has. He's still prideful of himself, lazy, is the textbook definition of goofy and is prone to not thinking of everything but has grown the heart to try to be his best for his friends and subjects. That honestly makes me like Dedede more since it shows he has flaws he overcomes to be a better person (or penguin).

  • @Big-Chungus21
    @Big-Chungus21 Před rokem +119

    I like how dedede’s design in forgotten land is genuinely really cute and friendly looking, looks quite like his crystal shards design as well.

  • @TarvouldsQuest
    @TarvouldsQuest Před rokem +140

    STOP MAKING ME FEEL THINGS FOR CHARACTERS I NORMALLY DON'T FEEL THINGS FOR!
    (No please don't, keep going I love this).

  • @Forgotten_Fog
    @Forgotten_Fog Před rokem +179

    Dedede is the representation that change is possible. That no matter who you are as person, you can change. I love how you made this. King triple De will always be one of my favorite characters in gamming. He went from a self made and proclaimed king to a selfless king, willing to do anything for his subjects.

  • @poppyfrancis7338
    @poppyfrancis7338 Před rokem +123

    Dedede is my favorite Kirby character solely for the fact that he started off as your run of the mill mascot antagonist, but grew and learned so much over time that he is at least as strong as Meta Knight, and as caring as Kirby, albeit in his own mildly selfish way. He'll never be able to outgrow his greed, but he's shown time and time again that he's not only able but willing to put it aside to help, even doing so on principle in Return to Dream Land, and having while always viewing Kirby as a rival, no longer doing so in a way to antagonize, but to grow stronger himself. He taught himself how to inhale and FLY like Kirby did between their first encounter.

  • @fluffcake
    @fluffcake Před rokem +18

    Dedede is such a cool guy for real. He is not only an amazing leader moving further on, but him slowly caring more about his citizens and servants is so adorable. Basically that Clone Wars scene
    “Sir, we’re just expendables”
    “Not to me”

  • @ulti-matezoan6398
    @ulti-matezoan6398 Před rokem +80

    One bit of Dedede lore I would like to bring up that wasn't mentioned is that in the pause screen for the Masked Dedede's Revenge fight in Triple Deluxe, it mentions that "his limiter has been removed" meaning that Dedede post Triple Deluxe has the potential to be limitless in power much like Kirby.

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 Před rokem +9

      I do enjoy that Meta Knight, Kirby, and King Dedede will eventually become the three most powerful people in the Kirby universe

    • @MintyMoron64
      @MintyMoron64 Před rokem +15

      @@iantaakalla8180 Kirby is already limitless, Dedede and MK are just playing catch-up. They're getting awfully close..

    • @thebeavpercabethftw9604
      @thebeavpercabethftw9604 Před rokem +9

      @@MintyMoron64 They're the Vegeta and Piccolo to Kirby's Goku.

    • @ActuallyAthena
      @ActuallyAthena Před rokem +3

      Wonder where bandana dee fits in to all of this. Is he too limitless? Or is it only his courage that gives him strength

    • @mittycommitspizzatime92
      @mittycommitspizzatime92 Před rokem +2

      @@thebeavpercabethftw9604
      Bandana Dee is the Krillin of the gang

  • @grandpoobah6542
    @grandpoobah6542 Před rokem +85

    I was today years old when I understood that the swinging scene in Right Back at Ya is a reference to the final scene in the movie "Ikiru" by Akira Kurosawa. Even the song Dedede sings while swinging is a parody from the song sung in the movie.

  • @BearofLightness
    @BearofLightness Před rokem +503

    So many great moments here. The anime clips interspersed throughout are terrific, and I love the editing on the opening, the Roar of Dedede segment, and the ending.
    I've always loved Dedede, but I think I really first took notice of him as a "great" character, not just a "fun" one, around Triple Deluxe. The King having the strength of will to surpass the razor-honed discipline of Meta Knight himself, as discussed with the Dimensional Mirror here, floored me. Kirby as a series is great about communicating a lot of complicated ideas like that through simple broad strokes and juxtaposing concepts.
    And then you have stuff like his and Meta Knight's friendship in Kirby Fighters 2, and everything he does in Forgotten Land, and my heart just melts. You've come a long way, self-proclaimed King of Dream Land.

    • @BearofLightness
      @BearofLightness Před rokem +14

      P.S. - I appreciate all the love for Bandee here, too!

    • @lordspagetti9261
      @lordspagetti9261 Před rokem +9

      while id say him beating dark meta was impressive since even meta knight couldnt do it he still doesnt have more willpower than the knight considering he still got brainwashed by forgo while meta knight resisted it

    • @BearofLightness
      @BearofLightness Před rokem +11

      @@lordspagetti9261 The way I see it, Forgo was specifically targeting animals. Dedede is a penguin, so he was more vulnerable to Forgo's influence than the non-animal Meta.

    • @dalehayden3830
      @dalehayden3830 Před rokem +16

      I think the only reason Meta Knight lost is because Dark Meta Knight lacks the same sense of honor. He genuinely didn't think *any* version of himself would employ unsporting tactics, and was caught off guard JUST long enough.
      Dedede, on the other hand, is a subversive buffoon and therefore ready for anything that comes his way.

    • @Captain_Keppy06
      @Captain_Keppy06 Před rokem +9

      Self MADE king of Dreamland

  • @skrub_king
    @skrub_king Před rokem +95

    It's true that King Dedede is the best character ever

  • @Derpinator01
    @Derpinator01 Před rokem +39

    As for my two cents, the Beast Pack didn't strengthen Dedede, but they brought out the strength he was holding back. In his very first appearance, it would make sense for him to hold back his full might to toy with any challengers, but over the years, as his pride turned into compassion, he didn't want to hurt anyone more than necessary, keeping his simple wooden hammer (with a tweak or two) instead of sticking with his metal mallet. The Beast Pack's brainwashing shows us how strong Dedede got to keep up with Kirby.

    • @AkameGaKillfan777
      @AkameGaKillfan777 Před rokem

      I think his suction attack is more powerful than Chaos Elfilis on its second phase

  • @sinflower6210
    @sinflower6210 Před rokem +81

    Dedede is truly proof people can have flaws with your personality and still be a good person and a caring friend

  • @reformedorthodoxmunmanquara

    Dedede has to be one of my favorite redemptions in media.

  • @TheDukeofDorks
    @TheDukeofDorks Před rokem +144

    12/10 quality character, so good that one could spend months editing a video about him and still come out the other side loving him to pieces. Can't wait to see what the Kirby series does with him next!

  • @Mizu_Melon
    @Mizu_Melon Před rokem +63

    From the words of one of my friends, "The best way to see if a redemption arc is good is by how much they keep the character's personality intact." and like you said at 29:39, while Dedede is one of the good guys now, who he is personality wise hasn't changed. Which is why I personally think Dedede is one of, if not THE best example of a redemption arc done right. Very good video! :]

  • @MrHomelessHobos
    @MrHomelessHobos Před rokem +99

    Didn’t know Deedeedees development was that consistent! That’s really impressive, Hal really cares about their kirby

  • @SuperGoomba10
    @SuperGoomba10 Před rokem +171

    Magnificent video. Let it never be said that we don't stan the great king of Dreamland in this house.

    • @e-mananimates2274
      @e-mananimates2274 Před rokem

      Hello again! Long time no see! I remember you from Lemmy's Land!

  • @ellusiv5121
    @ellusiv5121 Před rokem +18

    Damn, that line of Dedede being hated as a king, Kirby following him to cheer him up, and the Waddle Dees following him after he earned their loyalty later-- that right there is great character writing and it wasn't even something spelled out, it felt like a natural progression across the games.

  • @joshbruh6584
    @joshbruh6584 Před rokem +80

    One of my earliest gaming memories is when I first played Super Smash Bros Brawl. When I opened that character select screen, there was a single character that I knew with all my heart I was going to play…
    It was Yoshi cause he was my Mario Kart main. But a few days of playing later I looked over and saw him, this funny looking penguin who was apparently of royal blood and something about that just clicked for me. I still remember the time I first used his Up-Special and miraculously landed that spike, causing me to laugh so hard that it physically hurt me and I was so confused because nothing like that had really happened to me before.
    Ever since then, King Dedede has been one of if not my favourite Nintendo character, be it his appearance in Subspace Emissary or when I eventually played the Kirby series. This video understands my feelings on the character perfectly and puts them into words better than I ever could.
    Long Live the King baby. Honestly I’d take him over my country’s current monarch any day.

  • @sgriosthetubator5564
    @sgriosthetubator5564 Před rokem +35

    Can’t wait for “The Chivalry of Meta Knight: Designing for Honor”
    Or “The Devotion of Waddle-dee: Designing for Loyalty”

  • @Fannintendociccio1
    @Fannintendociccio1 Před rokem +232

    This is just a nitpick, but according to the guidebook dedede joined in the team in Kirby 64 because he was worried the kiddos were all alone in their adventure and someone needed to take care of them! 🥺🥺
    The bit of "only I can be mean to my waddle dees" is actually a mistranslation, which makes a lot of sense. He wouldn't be mean to them at the point of epic yarn's release.
    And of course, that's for granted even in the video, but the anime isn't canon and stuff
    About dark d-mind, an interview was released in Japanese about it. That game is basically triple deluxe's sequel, taranza using the dark mirror to bring sectonia back to life, but all he manages to do is bring forth his own mirror clone in sectonia colors. This mirror taranza then summons what he thinks it's the strongest mirror champion, which is mirror dedede from dededetour (in a funny parallel to Taranza thinking dedede was the strongest popstar habitant before). The interview then explained how the concentrated "dark minds" of mirror taranza and mirror dedede caused Dark Mind to spawn inside mirror dedede, which was a weird thing to happen, until in star allies we actually got the explanation that Void spawns when energy gets concentrated, and Dark Mind is just what void looks like in that dimension.
    That aside, loved the video!!!

    • @MintyMoron64
      @MintyMoron64 Před rokem +37

      It isn't so much that he's particularly mean to them, it's like the good old "You can't make jokes at the expense of my sibling, that's my job!"

    • @Fannintendociccio1
      @Fannintendociccio1 Před rokem +19

      @@MintyMoron64 I guess, but in Japanese he literally doesn't say anything about it, and we know plenty how often translations gets messed up for Kirby

    • @AsecasJavi
      @AsecasJavi Před rokem +3

      Source pls I wanna read

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Před rokem +8

      @@Fannintendociccio1 Honestly, I'm surprised to hear that the localization made that up, it always seemed like him being tsundere about it akin to how he vaguely acted in 64. But then again, they also changed the story of Robobot completely(partially intentionally and partially unintentionally), so I should have expected it I guess.

    • @Fannintendociccio1
      @Fannintendociccio1 Před rokem

      @@AsecasJavi I would give it but comments with links get deleted

  • @onememeyboi7149
    @onememeyboi7149 Před rokem +10

    In my opinion, King Dedede is humanity's greatest achievement
    And this video expressed my reasons why almost perfectly

  • @Markm8
    @Markm8 Před rokem +34

    King deedeedee is definitely the lest villain of all the villains and I like that hes a cool dude

    • @Markm8
      @Markm8 Před rokem +11

      I also dee dee dee is like just a guy but is still more powerful than like 80% of the smash cast in lore

  • @justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313

    Triple D's development from cold-hearted villain to a proper kind-hearted king is something you don't see very often in media.
    Some movies, cartoons, anime and even video games often have royal figures with a malicious heart/soul stay that way while Triple D does the opposite.
    The King Dedede vs. Bowser fight in Brawl will always be one of my favorite moments next to his reluctant yet willing sacrifice of placing his revival broaches and him tackling and hugging Kirby with the Pink Puffball looking kinda confused. The fact Dedede practically tells Bowser that he fucked up without saying a word shows the difference between the two kings.
    One would've blamed someone else while the other would've tried their best to help but would eventually get stopped multiple times by someone thinking they were causing problems on purpose.

  • @loldude8783
    @loldude8783 Před 6 měsíci +6

    27:36 This Roar from Dedede in the masked dedede fight always gives me chills, and its so cool.

  • @paperwatt
    @paperwatt Před rokem +42

    I can't believe that animation in the original game of Kirby checking on dedede existed! That helps tie the whole thing together that Kirby's influence on people effected Dedede all the way back then!

  • @SapphireLibra3
    @SapphireLibra3 Před rokem +53

    Kirby really is just the best, isn't he? He even managed to teach kindness to King Dedede.

  • @dextra_24703
    @dextra_24703 Před rokem +51

    I think most of your kirby videos got me to cry of joy.

  • @jamarcuscoley
    @jamarcuscoley Před 11 měsíci +6

    I love King Dedede. His development and selflessness and truly admirable. Kirby made a difference in his life and their friendship is truly golden.

  • @autismandgaming4532
    @autismandgaming4532 Před rokem +42

    I say king dedede, needs at least 32 minutes and 45 seconds dedicated to him, but you still went above and beyond

  • @do-nothingbear9474
    @do-nothingbear9474 Před rokem +12

    I don’t cry often, but when I played forgotten land and dedede did the whole “sacrifice myself for my friends” thing, I actually teared up. I in that moment made a realization that was basically everything in this video, that he wasn’t a villain anymore, and going back, he wasn’t even really a villain for that long. It was just a slow and arduous process of accepting who he was and taking responsibility, which after having grown up with Kirby most of my life, was an amazing moment.

  • @Magic_Ice
    @Magic_Ice Před rokem +22

    1:26 Designing For, Silvery, and PurePari: Dedede went from a power hungry tyrant to now someone who wishes to protect all of Planet Popstar out of Selflessness.
    Indigo: *So Dedede is a F@cist*

    • @KopperNeoman
      @KopperNeoman Před rokem +3

      Where exactly is the merger of corporate and government power? Or the wokeness?
      He's just the King. He's a monarchist.

    • @Magic_Ice
      @Magic_Ice Před rokem +1

      @@KopperNeoman watch Indigo’s kirby lore videos, they are great

  • @NovaStar700
    @NovaStar700 Před rokem +9

    I wasn't expecting to cry in the middle of a video about King DeDeDe

  • @supersmashbro596
    @supersmashbro596 Před rokem +27

    actually
    dedede was never truely a tyrant except in dream land 1 and its remakes
    by his second game he is unambiguously a good guy whose actions were misread by kirby.
    kirby only saw the shattering of the star rod and dedede taking a bath in the fountain of dreams. like a child, kirby only saw dedede the villain.
    when in actuality he broke the star rod, yeah, but having no dreams was better than having your dreams invaded by nightmare, the actual villain of adventure. the "bathing in the fountain" bit was probably just him wading through the water trying to reach the star rod after he noticed it was acting funny.
    the closest dedede gets to a true antagonistic role after dreamland 1/ spring breeze was his role of revenge of the king, and even there despite his showboating, it's just that: a show. he is increcibly respectful to kirby once its just the two of them, even taking a page from meta knight and offering a hammer to fight him with.
    and as he stumbles into the sunset, who is there to accompany him? why his waddle dees, who aren't mere servents but dededes actual friends who will support him no matter what.
    his moments in the forgotten land show that hes always willing to protect his waddle dees just as much as they protect him. and it's kinda sweet he does it.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Před rokem

      What is kinda funny is that the closest he ever gets to DL1 is Battle Royale and even then...it's basically a parody game that isn't meant to tie into the grander mythos anyhow. There was no horrible scheme or tyrannical powermove, he simply had a slightly meaner day where he wasn't particularly respectful once.

  • @trainerlsw
    @trainerlsw Před rokem +8

    While Kirby has natural talent, Dedede is one who works hard to match said talent. In the old days, he would do so in order to defeat him. Now, he no longer wishes to one up Kirby, he now wants to fight for his land, for that’s what a king should do. He’s gone from a selfish, greedy tyrant that ruled with an iron fist, to a heartfelt, selfless hero-king who fights for the greater good.

  • @NerdKirby
    @NerdKirby Před rokem +37

    What a wonderful way to showcase the journey of Dedede, made me shed some tears. He's a character dear to me and as the years go by, I love him even more.

  • @iced_cassowary8728
    @iced_cassowary8728 Před rokem +20

    King Dedede has a place in my heart, no fictional character has given me so much happiness in my life as the King himself.

  • @Reddotzebra
    @Reddotzebra Před rokem +6

    "He's a funny penguin that tries real hard except when he doesn't!"
    And whom among us can help but empathize with that?

  • @ivrxr8693
    @ivrxr8693 Před rokem +13

    The phrase, “Even if you push yourself beyond your limits, how can you beat someone who’s very existence is limitless,” gave me PTSD. Apart from that, great vid, 10/10

  • @EstebanThrives
    @EstebanThrives Před rokem +5

    Only true kings can get kings right. You dropped this 👑

  • @grayanddevpdx
    @grayanddevpdx Před rokem +29

    The power of a god tier theme is what makes Dedede truly Dedede.

  • @DonDunno
    @DonDunno Před rokem +32

    This video actually made me cry. Good job.

    • @usuariodoyoutube4718
      @usuariodoyoutube4718 Před rokem +4

      Same

    • @matthewkuscienko4616
      @matthewkuscienko4616 Před rokem +2

      Same with me, too. I never realized how much Dedede has grown as a character in the series, it's actually amazing how he's gone from being a simple slothful and gluttonous jerk to a genuinely caring and good person who's willing to do the right thing when it matters the most. I'm now convinced that Dedede has some of the best character development of any character in any fictional medium

  • @meep_171
    @meep_171 Před rokem +17

    *WE STAN DEDEDE IN THIS HOUSEHOLD*

  • @dkpsyhog
    @dkpsyhog Před rokem +8

    I love the Destined Rivals figure (26:35) so much because, at least to me, it gives the impression that D3 probably tells *everyone he meets* that he's Kirby's rival. Like, he's just so happy to be Kirby's rival that he _has_ to tell everyone all the time. And that's basically the clearest possible summary of Dedede as a character.

  • @Gerik75
    @Gerik75 Před rokem +38

    As the Kirby tv show never released in my contry, I always found the 3D design choice for Kirby so weird, and even for Dedede.

    • @sentienttwig7043
      @sentienttwig7043 Před rokem

      Yeah it was an experiment that likely didn’t work out

  • @JonathanRiverafrickinnice555

    Dark Meta-Knight: Fine, you beat me-hey, hey wait, MY HOUSE!

  • @TheDansonT
    @TheDansonT Před rokem +48

    I just want to say how much I love you channel. This content is so relaxing to listen and learn from. Stay blessed!

  • @godzillainhellgoji5299
    @godzillainhellgoji5299 Před rokem +5

    I have to admit the part of 22:08 is just perfect like King dedede himself

  • @massgunner4152
    @massgunner4152 Před rokem +11

    my favorite part about Dedede's last stand in forgotten land is that only twelve animals reach the throne room in Lab Discovera, the king didn't just survive the battle, he crushed the army and went on to the extract the waddle dees.

  • @BylethsBoba776
    @BylethsBoba776 Před rokem +6

    God tier character study this was fantastic

  • @blueknightskeleton8424
    @blueknightskeleton8424 Před rokem +5

    "Dedede is perfect."
    - Super Sm4sh Bros.

  • @DefinitivNichtSascha
    @DefinitivNichtSascha Před rokem +15

    King Dedede is my favourite character in all of video games - likely in all of fiction. Yes, he's not amazingly complex in his motives or has a most epic backstory to him, but he's a right character, that one. Triple D is not just a caricature that boils down to a handful of one-dimensional traits. He's got a bombastic personality and he's got his flaws, but he also has a history, and he tries all that he can. He learns; as the video perfectly shows, there is no game appearance where he doesn't take away at least one thing from his adventures.
    I just adore this lovable goofy penguin so much.
    It also warms my heart how much the people at HAL laboratories seem to value this ongoing story they have with the games in this series. Sure, they're not narratively connected in a way that there would be one coherent plotline throughout them, but they could also just make episodic games where these characters are thrown into scenarios without any cohesion. And yet, HAL never forgets the history of their characters, their stories, their games, and I am greatly thankful and respectful of that.

  • @kirbyfreakyt4695
    @kirbyfreakyt4695 Před rokem +7

    Seriously though, admit it, Dedede has grown more than Vegeta

  • @FaelumbreProject
    @FaelumbreProject Před rokem +73

    Don't forget his (non-canon?) bond with Meta Knight, how they're REALLY just the best friends, that challenge Kirby on a 200+ floor tower just to prove they're the best friends nothing more than that... Just best friends doing combined attacks, having matching outfits, and sharing a Maxim Tomato... Just friends yeah....

    • @usermcskull4713
      @usermcskull4713 Před rokem +35

      Dedede's relationship with MK is so interesting to me.
      In Adventure, it's stated he gave one Star Rod piece to his friends which included Meta Knight.
      Since MK was the last to face Kirby, maybe this implied that Dedede was closer to MK than the other characters?
      But than Nightmare in Dream Land seemingly retcons this and says he gave the pieces of the Star Rod to his subordinates.
      At the very least Squeak Squad actually seems to imply something?
      Like Dedede had the Dark Nebula chest and Meta Knight knew Dark Nebula was in it, considering that they also both use the Mask of Daro Bonds much later in Fighters 2...maybe this implies that they've captuted evil beings together ot something?
      Idk but yeah I do definitely ship them, just find it interesting that despite them being in so many games together the only time we actually get a feel for their relationship is the really high quality eShop spin off for 15 bucks haha

    • @matti.8465
      @matti.8465 Před rokem +21

      Just two bros being "sworn partners"

    • @Eleanor__Rigby
      @Eleanor__Rigby Před rokem +11

      just guys being dudes :)

    • @usermcskull4713
      @usermcskull4713 Před rokem +9

      Meta Knight always practices kissing with King Dedede, claiming that he does so "to become the strongest warrior in the galaxy!"

    • @Eleanor__Rigby
      @Eleanor__Rigby Před rokem +8

      @@usermcskull4713 he says it "strengthens their warrior's bond". we all totally believe him

  • @Portersona69420
    @Portersona69420 Před rokem +21

    You actually used footage and audio from Kirby Right Back At Ya! For this?? *SURELY YOU JESTIN'!* That makes me so happy someone acknowledges the Kirby Anime. You just earned a subscriber!

  • @dr.darkcrow6784
    @dr.darkcrow6784 Před rokem +3

    28:31
    "We’re just Waddle Dees sir. We’re meant to be expendable."
    "Not to me."

  • @smashers6971
    @smashers6971 Před rokem +29

    Dedede basically had the perfect character arc from dream land 1-64 from villain, to attempted hero, to possession victim to a full on hero and a uncle/father figure to the 64 crew, (No seriously the official website comments on him going on the quest to protect those 4 kids, and in interviews in Star Allie’s, they bring up that Dedede has an older brother esque relationship with Adeleine and Ribbon) however since the anime put too much focus on Meta Knight and put Dedede in the sidelines as a villain, Dedede’s development essentially was removed and he was even a minor character in the 2000’s only showing him being “oh hey Dedede is here” but from Super Star Ultra onwards they constantly remind you that this guy has really changed and while he does have a rivalry with Kirby he really cares about the little guy, with the Dedede clones that having a grudge against Kirby are stated that they are incomplete and lack Dedede’s Soul, Dedede essentially proving Taranza right being the hero of the lower world by essentially saving Kirby’s life and allowing him to finishing off Sectonia, and most importantly despite being taken down twice in one round due to being possessed (and being tired from months of isolation in the new world) drops everything to save a waddle dee and buy Kirby time by facing the beast pack all on his on.
    Dedede’s just awesome and I’m glad the series is starting to course correct itself from the dark age from the 2000’s and I really hope we get more of the King’s development in future games.

  • @castform7
    @castform7 Před rokem +10

    A Dedede video? Sign me up. Dedede is probably my favourite character....ever. Him being a massive, expressive goofball penguin in a robe would've been enough for me, but it was seeing his slow gradual growth from a jerk to a person constantly trying to better himself for the sake of his people. Triple D's a certified hero in my book and nothing will change that. He might be prideful, lazy, and not very good at thinking things through, but the point is that he tries and that's an admiral trait for a king if you ask me.
    (Also, Return to Dreamland obviously has the best Dedede design (at least in 3D. Super Star Ultra is peak 2D Dedede)).

  • @Classic-guy1991
    @Classic-guy1991 Před rokem +4

    This video made me cry the first time watching btw

  • @themaincharacter4985
    @themaincharacter4985 Před 2 měsíci +4

    👑 Dedede is personally my 2nd favorite character right behind Kirby. He's so prideful and humble at the same time. I love him

  • @BolasMinion
    @BolasMinion Před 11 měsíci +4

    You actually brought me to tears repeatedly with your narration and music choice in this video. You get a hearty "Well done!" from me!

  • @blessedcanvas5321
    @blessedcanvas5321 Před rokem +6

    Squeak Squad is like that weird filler arc that had some characters that the fans really liked so they made them canon.

  • @laraprisma6381
    @laraprisma6381 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I had a smile the whole video!! all of this is simply adorable!!

  • @theodoremcdonald9471
    @theodoremcdonald9471 Před rokem +3

    I love that through this epic and surprisingly heartfelt saga he still never misses a chance to be a world class ham. I mean the guy chews the scenery more than his food

  • @Magicghost23
    @Magicghost23 Před rokem +5

    Video games greatest anime redemption arc.

  • @Zero_de_Nova
    @Zero_de_Nova Před rokem +16

    We love King Naptime!

  • @kirbyfreakyt4695
    @kirbyfreakyt4695 Před rokem +3

    12:07
    Gotta mention, I think, since Kirby knows Dedede is prone to pranks, he thinks it's just a prank. I mean, it's a single piece of strawberry shortcake, not an entire planet's food.
    It's enough to fight him in a match, at worst.

  • @ToxicCandy116
    @ToxicCandy116 Před rokem +5

    I’ve watched many video essays over the years, but this has gotta be one of my favorites. Well done

  • @drxtale9446
    @drxtale9446 Před rokem +6

    From a tyrant Monarch of Mt. Dedede. To the Kind King of dreamland, while still the fancy munchy king he was since dreamland. Triple D see’s his loyal subjects important. And see’s Kirby just ether rival or buddy, getting him outta tough trouble. I just love the pompous penguin. And he’ll be my favorite forever.

  • @cocheeseknox7440
    @cocheeseknox7440 Před rokem +16

    Absolutely perfect. Thank you for covering my favorite video game character of all time.

  • @billybill4268
    @billybill4268 Před rokem +2

    28:44 that scene went so hard, like way too hard

  • @dantesdiscoinfernolol
    @dantesdiscoinfernolol Před rokem +3

    Welp, I went into this just looking for something Kirby-related to listen to in the background, but now I guess we're Having Emotions™️ about King Dedede this morning-
    I'm not sure if I can think of a redemption arc that is as subtle but consistent and solid as his. He's a rare duck (er, penguin) who was the proudest, most obnoxious, most powerful person he knew, got knocked down a peg by the protagonist...and then actually got back up, dusted himself off, and set out to become better, instead of going into denial or wallowing in pity. Even when he couldn't surpass Kirby in power, Kirby grew on him anyway. Dedede learned how good it felt to be kind and make friends and care for his subjects, and all those lessons actually stuck with him from game to game! He's the definition of "Rough on the outside, but has a heart of gold."
    I love how unashamed the Kirby series is of having genuinely kind characters like this. Few series are willing to be this cheesy, or if they are, they can't bare it without at least cracking some jokes about how cheesy it is (which is fun too, don't get me wrong). But Dedede really went from "self-proclaimed" to "self-made" King...
    There aren't a lot of Kings I respect in fiction, but he's one of em.

  • @firstwaddledee9182
    @firstwaddledee9182 Před rokem +9

    King Dedede has grown so much. I’m proud to be a part of his Waddle Dee army.

  • @m4yr4i
    @m4yr4i Před rokem +13

    The way your scripts are done is so good, i will never get tired of these videos and their writing.

  • @Skyehoppers
    @Skyehoppers Před rokem +11

    I honestly had no idea there was so much depth to Dedede! This topic was such a good fit for your channel stylistically. Joy to watch, as always :)

  • @Tunstaar
    @Tunstaar Před rokem +3

    Dude I seriously love your Kirby vids, each one I’ve watched has made me a emotional to the point of shedding a tear, how you present each am every character and how you talk, aaaaa it’s just beautiful :D

  • @wobbmin3705
    @wobbmin3705 Před rokem +8

    11:17 Just so you know, Squeak Squad had different writers than usual, so take everything in that game with a grain of salt.

  • @EduSolsa
    @EduSolsa Před rokem +10

    Every video from Kirby series is a delight to watch

  • @acg8161
    @acg8161 Před rokem +7

    This guy gets it, for once, someone gets how to understand. And without any rambling, no filler jokes, all of his two videos I’ve watched display expert critical thinking skills. It’s rare to find someone with those qualities nowadays, and even more rare to find someone with them that are holding themselves and others to higher degree. I salute you sir.

  • @amandaletcher1320
    @amandaletcher1320 Před rokem +5

    I really like that dedede eventually redeemed himself after dreamland and lets face it excluding the retaleings and spin offs we usually have to fight him because either A he's possessed or brainwashed or B it was a horrible misunderstanding

  • @Portersona69420
    @Portersona69420 Před rokem +12

    King Dedede isn't just a baffoon... He's a Cartoon Baffoon.