Monte Cassino Final Battle - Operation Diadem
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- The final battle at Monte Cassino and the collapse of the Gustav Line.
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Literary sources: Monte Cassino January-May 1944: The Legend of the Green Devils
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Archive Films: THE LIBERATION OF ROME, 1944 ARC Identifier 24348 / Local Identifier 111-CR-1
AIR FORCE STORY, THE -- ROAD TO ROME, SEPTEMBER 1943-JUNE 1944 Department of Defense 1953 - PIN 26155
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Glad you like the final Cassino episode. The drive to Rome is quite short because I figured it could potentially be an episode in itself.
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You should make some videos about the Australians in Papua New Guinea
#montecastelo please
Thanks to this one, I've managed to make this.
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And then, poles brought the bear...
WOJTEK THE SOLIDER BEAR!!
@free wifi *This is not a lie .... this is the whole TRUTH !!!! He was carrying wooden boxes full of the artillery shells !!!!*
*"Wojtek" was purchased in Iran as a cub from the Iranian boy, and since then the bear has being adopted by the friendly Polish soldiers. He also like others, liked very much to drink the beer and to smoke cigarettes :o)) Moreover, "Wojtek" had his rank, his soldier's number, and his ration at the Polish Military kitchen. He was taken from Africa by boat to Italy together with the soldiers of the Polish Army.*
@free wifi Take it easy ... I did not say, that you were lying at all .... I just add to your story, that's it !!! Have a good day ;o))
God bless gen. Anders and his soldiers...
The commentary in this video regarding the Poles is total nonsense and it wasn't their first battle either far from it, they are portrayed as reckless yahoos who get taught a lesson by the "elite" germans, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact Alexander considered the Poles the finest troops of 8th Army (his own words), which is why they were reserved for the toughest job -Monte Cassino itself. Just as an example 17 Sherman tanks of the Polish 6th armoured regiment are mentioned (this happened at Piedimonte San Germano) but no commentary on the entire Canadian Tank regiment knocked out before them? The Polish tanks were knocked out by AT guns at Piedimonte san Germano (at the time the strongest fortified position in Italy) and not by a Panther tank or fortified Panther turrets (which were knocked out by heavy artillery in the 2nd day of fighting). The numbers of captured FJ units by the Poles is completely underreported, need I go on, this whole video screams Wehraboo to me, just highlighting some of the BS in this video and there is a lot of it. This misinformation video should be taken down, I study this battle.
First off, he didn’t say it was the first battle for all the Poles involved. But it was indeed te first time for a number of the Poles.
Second, just because they were deemed ‘the finest soldiers’ by Alexander, didn’t mean they didn’t showcase too much bravery and not enough caution (the later of which is most certainly not a sign of ‘cowardice’).
Third, to say this makes Polish soldiers look bad is like saying it made the US II Corps soldiers look bad. Or British 4th Division soldier look bad.
Lastly, there are actual sources for this video. Sources that he most kindly puts in the video description. How about you direct your many, many complaints to those and the guys who made them, eh?
@@901Sherman Utter rubbish. You quote "sources" but had you have known what you were talking about you would have known that most of the Polish soldiers fighting at Monte Cassino had already fought in the 1939 campaign in Poland and the Polish army was already a crack outfit before the war - before they retrained under the British - this after they had been pulled out of & survived Soviet death camps already - find me an allied unit that went through such experience and training. The Polish II Corps was arguably the finest force not just in the Italian campaign but on the entire allied side worldwide, this thought is echoed by all who witnessed the unit in action, and includes distinguished figures such as Harold Macmillan future Prime Minister of the UK, Field Marshal Harold Alexander and more.
You are also woefully ignorant of the geopolitics of the time, by 1944 the UK & US had wanted to distance themselves from their Polish ally as they were at the time enamored with the Soviet Union. As Poland & the Soviet Union were enemies in the same allied camp, Poland was politically inconvenient and every political and propaganda effort was made to paint the Poles as either incompetent (and where successful) as reckless. These stereotypes have gladly been taken up by the author of this video, but what was witnessed at a military level was something quite different.
As for cowardice, difficult to comprehend such a thing from someone who was already highly trained before the war, had stared death in the face in a Soviet Gulag & survived, had retrained under the British, and was now fighting in the full knowledge that his country and family were being ravaged and raped by Germany, (more than 1/5 of Poland's population died in the war).
So perhaps before you start to try to challenge someone who not only studies this battle, but has access to Polish & British regimental sources not available to the average "web surfer historian", you might consider doing your homework first.
Since you obviously have no idea what I’m talking about, I’ll make things simple.…
Literary sources: *Monte Cassino January-May 1944: The Legend of the Green Devils*
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*Monte Cassino: Ten Armies in Hell* amzn.to/2G6KHTE
These sources were used in the video. Nothing like the ‘websurfer’ BS or whatever you put it.
If you’re so ‘passionate’ about this battle, go pick em up and find out what’s ‘wrong’ with them yourself.
@@901Sherman I've read Ten Armies in Hell several times, I have the book in front of me. I've also read many many books on this subject as well as regimental archives. So instead of sprouting bs why don't you read what I've written and go and read some yourself, have you even read anything on Cassino? The Legend of the Green Devils is a wehraboo book for wehraboos. This video should be taken down, end of.
I have 10 Armies in Hell as well, in E-Book form at least. And at the very least, I find it commendable that it tries too tackle various different units involved (especially tricky given their numbers and nationalities.
Correction, that's was not the first fight for Poles, this corpus fight in Tobruk
Tha Carpahtian Division fought in Tobrouk (and if I remember well at that time it was a Brigade), not the Kresowa Division.
I enjoyed the series about the Monte Cassino battle. This was very awesome.
Having in mind how English 'met expectations of being Polish Allies in 1939' it was no surprise that Poles may have some doubts about British courage. And they proved that they were ready to take this bloody monastery or die trying.
" it was no surprise that Poles may have some doubts about British courage"
It's rather retarded for them to doubt it at this point given the British had helped turn the tide against the Germans.
"Having in mind how English 'met expectations of being Polish Allies in 1939"
Poland being overrun immediately you mean.
What about the Indians who gave their lives in Monte Casino
if you watched the previous videos you'd see that there is an entire part dedicated to them.
u deserv much more viewers!
And yet since I uploaded this video my subscribers count has dropped. The last algorithm in March certainly wrecked this channel. Before that I was getting an average of 50 subs every day.
@@ww2-epicbattles sad to hear that, but keep grinding !
@@Ericko290 Ιt costs a lot of money and time. I have to slow down with the production of further videos.
@@ww2-epicbattles You will prevail, but something bombastic, like the battle of Stalingrad, would help. It's simply the hype! ;)
@@stef1896 I could make the greatest battle in the European theatre only in complete 3D and in a series of 3-4 videos. I wouldn't be satisfied with anything less than that. And it's actually planned for this winter. I'm just not sure if I will actually do it.
Would like more vidoeos on Grece and Finland. Happy to have new history vidos
Damn, those german paras are heck of tough man.
They earned the nickname "The Green Devils" in these battles.
@@Lorian667 really why?
@@gta1kev Their Uniform was slighty green, and they fought like devils. The allies gave them the name.
*That gallant German Parachute Unit partially contained native Poles :o(( They were being drafted by force by German occupants into the German Army. Those Poles in German uniforms, they were originated from occupied Polish territories of Pomerania and Silessian Regions. These Polish territories had being incorporated into the III Reich, after successful to Germans & Soviets the Polish September campaign in the year of 1939 !!!!*
@@dasboot5903 I had two great uncles from Silesia that were drafted into the Wehrmacht, escaped to later join the Polish army and fought at Monte Cassino. There were lots of Polish Silesians drafed by the Germans and many later got away and joined the Polish side fighting with the British
How is this in youtube. This is like full on documentary from the narrator to the information and animation
In spite of the stiffening enemy resistance, the 2nd Moroccan Division penetrated the Gustave [sic] Line in less than two-day's [sic] fighting. The next 48 hours on the French front were decisive. The knife-wielding Goumiers swarmed over the hills, particularly at night and General Juin's entire force showed an aggressiveness hour after hour that the Germans could not withstand. Cerasola, San Giorgio, Mt. D'Oro, Ausonia and Esperia were seized in one of the most brilliant and daring advances of the war in Italy ... For this performance, which was to be a key to the success of the entire drive on Rome, I shall always be a grateful admirer of General Juin and his magnificent FEC.
What’s with the negative “reckless” polish stereotype? My grandad was there. For your freedom but not ours.
My grandfather was here to his name was Boleslaw Patykowski infantry division him and my gram moved to the states after the wars end
Because they were reckless? Didn't you watch the video?
His depiction of the Poles is not only inaccurate, it's riddled with misinformation. This video should be taken down.
Yeah why did he portray the Polish as if they ruined the entire operation? I have never seen that scenario before? Poles are usually portrayed as heroes of the entire assault. Gonna need to read more I guess.
Dude, there are sources for these vids in the video description. Why don’t ya check those out first before whining about inaccuracies?
Thanks for this amazing video, it is the first one on Monte-Cassino I found relating properly the respective roles of different divisions, cheers to the efficiency of Algerian divisions! Note they were mixed with ethnic algerians, and french, and that the main CEF (Corps Expeditionnaire Francais ) which contains troops from Tunisia (not mentionned in the video cos maybe embedded within some of the mentioned divisions) , Algeria , France , and the moroccan goumiers.These divisions were fit for mountain fighting.
Damn Polish boys you don’t give in. I can see why the Germans thought you would take no prisoners with that fighting spirit
I think they didnt, as far as I know no wounded paras on Cassino survived
@@deadfly122 That's ironic, German pointing out others not taking PoWs, it's almost like Germans had not been murdering "subhuman" soldiers since the very first days of the war... Poles in 1939, senegalese tirailleurs in 1940 in France etc.
Either way, Poles captured about 30 wounded soldiers, who were left by their comrades because they were unable to move on their own. And no, they didn't murder them. Unless you have a believable source saying otherwise... which is doubtful.
@@Kopyrda I have no significant source. Ive read it in a book about fallschirmjägers which was based on real facts. But that's not what I wanted to point out. There's nothing glorious in winning a fight while taking a couple thousands casualties in a bunch of days
@@deadfly122 I agree that boasting about Monte Cassino is weird, especially that there were so many greater battles, like holding Mont Ormel ridge (Falaise Pocket). However, that's not the point I was referring to, only supposed murder of PoWs. Not only there is no significant source to prove it, but Germans had been doing exactly the same since the very beginning of war. Not only soldiers from Waffen SS, as some choose to believe, but even the ones from Wehrmacht. Like Rommel's soldiers murdering black PoWs in 1940 in France.
@@Kopyrda never heard of mont ormel
Its true that some germans tended to kill prisoners though :) especially in the east
My grandpa was here🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹😢😣he survived but when he comeback to home he wasn’t the same Man....
Every one of your videos are the definition of quality content. Keep it up!
These videos are so inspirational! keep up the good work!
Check out his main channel simple history
The polish 2nd corp drew heavily from the released gulag prisoners. They had not been trained, just sent to fight when released from the gulags, upon Stalin switching sides to join the allies. Not sure “lack of discipline” was their problem. Many didn’t care for their own safety and few were trained. The allies should be grateful they didn’t just turn around and walk away.
You made the Polish look bad shame on you with this not accurate information about the Polish they played a crucial part in this battle.
Yep this misinformation video should be taken down.
@@jbol2454 definitely
Thanks for this video!!
Awesome Video!
Didn't the Brazilian Expeditionary Force also fight in this battle?
That's monte castelo
Nice video!
Mark Clark made many mistakes. He was obsessed with capturing Rome before the British. He hated his boss Alexander. Another reason for his lackluster ways.
Clark told the Canadian's to stand down so he and this Corp. could take Rome. Or the Canadian would have been the first in to Rome .This let most of the Germans before Rome to escape and fight another day. The Canadian and US trooper of the FSSF were among first in Rome.
I was wondering why Casino was the main target. Looking topographic map of area explains it a bit better. Western coast has mountains which would likely offer defender at least similar advantage. Northeast has even bigger mountains. But there is a valley leading to Rome just west of Casino and monastery. The monastery area is perfectly positioned to fire artilery shells to whole valley.
You should do German counter strikes aganist red army in Hungary
Who thinks there should be a similar channel but during the cold war era
Savage ending to a great series.
When the winged hussars arrived!!
Will you do a comprehensive video on the Liri Valley campaign next? I'm a big fan of your work keep it up!
If I can find the necessary information for it then sure I'll add it to the list. But it would not be made soon. I slowed down production for future videos after youth's change of algorithm in March. I barely get any views since then.
the losses in this battle are so huge.... They are similar to the that in invasions of Poland by nazi & soviets...
add legends pls
Good job. I suggest you make one from Raate Road Finland
BRASIL 25.000 SOLDADOS LUTOU NESTA GUERRA POR 2 ANOS
Do operation grapeshot final battle Italian campaign
Very good. Are you going to finish off the Italian invasion of Greece now?
Hopefully this fall.
Quick question, are you also apart of Simple History channel? Lol
no this is an independent channel
Isnt this the same guy from simple history?
yes
I think that i would be nice if you talk about the Falaise pocket and the battles there
My Maternal Grandfather fought that as part of Polish Army 2nd Corps, 3 DSK 3rd Division Carpathian Mountain Rifles as a mountain warfare Commando. He killed many Nazis, got the highest Polish military medal; VIRTUTI MILITARI.
Can you do a video on the Normandy landings because I am interested in the story of the band of brothers and also a video on the battle of kasserine pass
I wanted to make a Screaming Eagles series. Not gonna happen though as the way I wanted it involves a lot of 3D work and it's just not worth my time and money when I struggle to get past 2k views. Maybe next year.
I read that as Operation “DioDan”
You swine bashing the Polish soldiers who fought for monte cassino The final assault on 11 May 1944 was led by the Poles and they are the ones that captured the Abby and raised the Polish flag 🇵🇱
you do the baz battles too?
this channel is not affiliated with bad battles.
BRASIL NEGROS E BRANCO LUTOU NO MESMO PELOTÃO NÃO SOMOS RACISTAS AMERICANO É LUTAVA PELOTÃO SEPARADOS DOS NEGROS POVO RACISTAS
Hold up hold up isn't this simple history!?!?!?!?! Why don't you shout this out on the main channel
This channel does not collaborate with the Simple history channel.
Fallschirmjager standard of scientific management of german army and us army by general mark clark This is standard for leality and onest onor in the battle of war every day today for ever This is my opinion by tecnic usa and of tecnic by standard fallschirmjager of the german army bundeswehr by vai Luciano robella Asti Europa
Is this the simple history guy?
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@World War II - Epic Battles can you make more such videos like for example for the Vistula-Oder Offensive in 1945.
This is covered in the Berlin video.
@@ww2-epicbattles Not Really you just show the Battle of Berlin and the Battle at the Seelow heights but you dont show the Vistula-Oder Offensive. You just mention it but its definitely not covered in the Video. By the way the Russians counter attack after Kursk in 1943 would be also interesting to see.
*The ugly thing is .... that the whole battle for the way up, to the top of the Monte Cassino Monastery ...., unfortunately it was the Polish - "Polish" kinda battle !!!! Why ?? Because that gallant German Parachute Unit partially contained native Poles. They were being drafted by force by German occupants into the German Army. Those Poles in German uniforms, they were originated from occupied Polish territories of Pomerania and Silessian Regions. These Polish territories had being incorporated into the III Reich, after successful to Germans & Soviets the Polish September campaign in 1939 !!!! It was the time, when the whole World WAR the second just started, with the German and Soviet invasions on the territory of the Second Republic of Poland !!!!*
@Tom Fury > Some idiots believe that Russian propaganda, and usually they are prepaid by Moscow these days !! Nobody from the Republic of Poland participated in the *shameful Munich Conference* about pressing Czechoslovakia to give up its territory and independence to Hitler. In the year of 1938, there was absolutely no collaboration between Polish Government and Germany !!!! Poland only independently took back its own land with majority of the Polish population living there, which has been taken by force by Czechoslovakian Army from Poland by invasion in 1920 - while during that time, the Polish Army on the Southern border was week, because was struggling at the gates of the Warsaw, stopping bolshevik Red Army under the command of comrade Михаил Николаевич Тухачевский.
@Tom Fury >> *Winston Churchil ... he was a terrible hyena by himself* .... because not so long time later on, during the Battle of Britain with German Luftwaffe .... he was so grateful and thankful to Polish fighter pilots for their efficient HELP .... It is a shame to him personally, of how he allow to treat in Britain and at the Alliance winning table, the Polish Forces and Polish Government on Exile .... at the end of the war, and right after the war, too. As an independent nation and country .... we were brutally sold for so many decades, into the murderous hands of communism of Soviet Union and Joseph Stalin.
Are you the simple history guy?
Yes it's him.
Well, The Poles didn't do that well, at first (I'm Polish myself, and I'm disappointed)
If you're disappointed then you're not a polish you should be proud that poland never surrendered like france we kept fighting for 5 years so you should be proud poland helped capture monte cassino this guy is literally focusing on bashing the Polish
@@ghostface9369 did i say I am not proud? Ofc. I am proud that my country never surrendered. The thing is they weren't really the listening type in that battle (at the start)
@@phantomviper8297 I mean the at the start but at the end the Polish got their first and put the flag up you shouldn't be disappointed at all 🇵🇱💪🏼 dali radę
@@ghostface9369 I think I understand (kinda0 why they were so "reckless" The US and Brits thought nothing of them, so the Poles showed what they do best.
They did exceptionally well, this is a garbage take misinformation video with more to do with the politics of the time and propaganda against the Poles than their actual performance in battle. This video should be taken down.
clark should have been sacked
Thanks Churchill greatest military commander no one said ever.
I would like to add that the British wanted to attribute this victory to themselves by hanging their flag, but the Poles aimed their weapons at them and the slying ended.
Monte Cassino a monument to German bravery
Ah yes defending a position against repeated Allied blunders. How brave.