Malaguti Phantom F12 Tuning Issues! & new gear box parts!

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024

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  • @handsomeginger9381
    @handsomeginger9381 Před rokem +9

    I’m no moped expert but last year I was having major tunning issues on a 80cc Eton Beamer build I did (Minarelli horizontal) it ended up being the stage 6 intake causing issues. I tossed the stock intake back on to test it and she was a whole new beast.
    Not saying this is your issue but it’s definitely a quick and easy test.

  • @MangScoots
    @MangScoots Před rokem +2

    OG mop boys love the drier and washer noise, its a staple of the chanel

  • @missymooo8185
    @missymooo8185 Před rokem +8

    It the clutch and rollers and clean the jet out

  • @randyrides4434
    @randyrides4434 Před rokem +5

    I have a very similar built f12, I ended up using the stage 6 over range set up. Something like that might help your cvt issue.

  • @jumpheat
    @jumpheat Před rokem

    have the same set up having the same issue but as soon as you said Reed i had to check mines and yup no good it's the stage 6 one to

  • @krisley5178
    @krisley5178 Před rokem +1

    That's frustrating as hell. Good luck man.

  • @jurematahlija318
    @jurematahlija318 Před rokem +4

    you need lighter rollers and stronger contra spring, had the same problem on my aerox

  • @jamiejablonski4322
    @jamiejablonski4322 Před rokem

    Malossi overrange violet spring ( not sure what comes with a minarelli I’m piaggio) with just a stock clutch green Malossi springs 0.5 shim on the outer pulley. Sounds cliché but I’ve tried so many combos Polini etc.
    same as you but piaggio stage 6 sport pro, you want that squish down to 0.6
    Stock ignition with Malossi cdi
    Phbg 21,
    Malossi mesh pod filter
    50 slide
    W9 needle 3rd clip
    45 Pilot
    102 main
    Absolutely flawless, something you could try if all else fails.
    ** Definitely try stock clutch and Polini green springs.
    **Shimming very important as you know

  • @viktorfriis07
    @viktorfriis07 Před rokem +2

    Tighten the clutch springs or mby lighten the rollers. That should help

  • @exgtt2061
    @exgtt2061 Před rokem +1

    I’d do a compression test after a long pull. If it was CVT causing that much hesitation - there would be major heat build up somewhere and you would see the heat colour easy? Dunno

    • @marluncar
      @marluncar Před rokem +1

      I've got same issue with my aero 50 two bolt. choke off, it'll be snappy off the line before its fully up to temp and fade when it gets warm, but has fine mid and topend. I've been chasing the prob for months, I dont have tester but I can only conclude the rings are shot. hot compression test is probably the way. Bike specs - stock bore, s23 big mani, s23 pipe, 19mm dellorto, yellow contra, s23 clutch orange springs.

  • @the_note_9952
    @the_note_9952 Před rokem +1

    Hey bro i have an 77tpr aerox with an 28mm carb and a c16 with mvt digital direct ignition and its a real different setup in my cvt than you have, and i think when you upgrade to 70cc and higher you would need to stiffer your springs because i use black malossi clutch springs and a red countra spring in mine because i feel like in the video that the clutch springs dont match up with the rpm and the carb that dont give you the amount of fuel and air mix that you need, i think you should try using a carb with bigger intake and in your cvt you could get the red countra and tighten your clutch springs. Im only 16 but i know a lot about minarelli horizontal motors.

    • @paarynajuoma4998
      @paarynajuoma4998 Před rokem

      You know anything about throttle lag? My aerox has low and mid rpm like 1-2 second throttle lag. I think it may be the stock reeds because they had a small gap. Im going to order some malossi vl12 reeds. What do you think it is?

  • @benwhitford5703
    @benwhitford5703 Před rokem +3

    love the vids man, keep them coming 🔥

  • @kabooski
    @kabooski Před rokem

    I just built a RC1 94cc and my take off was worse than yours. I slammed the throttle from a dead stop and it bogged/flat. I tried lowering and increasing the main jet to no avail. Once I lowered the clip (richen the needle) and went up on the pilot jet did that bogging go away. It can get a bit confusing deciding if it is the CVT, timing or fuel since they can produce the same problems. Now I am trying to figure out it is belt/clutch slippage or fuel starvation when I accelerate, I have to let off the throttle and back again for it to clear out.

  • @oliverbabic7982
    @oliverbabic7982 Před rokem

    I have the same problen on my beta (minarelli horizontal) after a while driving it, it is sort of as the scooter is overheating and losing power, but that can't be after 5 minutes of riding.

  • @Snubz_at
    @Snubz_at Před rokem +1

    try to take out the plastic insert of the top performance intake had the same problem on my aerox that fixed it

    • @MOPBOYZ
      @MOPBOYZ  Před rokem

      this has stock reeeds with stage 6 intake. and that plastic piece is a reed stuffer, you don’t want to remove that, helps create velocity into the engine

  • @johnvanderbeek7535
    @johnvanderbeek7535 Před rokem +1

    Bro the lean to the side is part of tuning culture man! lol [atleast it was here] my maxi has crazy lean on the side stand everyone always thinks its gonna tip over 🤪

  • @uconsaa
    @uconsaa Před rokem

    i got your same engine but on a scarabeo chassis with a top tpr 70cc single ring AC and its good when cold but after it heats up its ass only from stopped then it clears and hauls ass

  • @litumdu9186
    @litumdu9186 Před rokem +3

    My nofications be delayed this time it was 6 min

  • @PeNeTrAtOrX
    @PeNeTrAtOrX Před rokem

    9:05 there is some lube on the pulley. did you check your clutch bell? i had a bad sealing and the lube went over the edge of the pulley into the clutch Bell.

  • @nastynatesscooters9896
    @nastynatesscooters9896 Před rokem +2

    You should try that dellorto 21 you have, on the f12 see how it likes it

    • @the_postin
      @the_postin Před rokem

      24 or bigger carbs are better for those powerful 70cc builds. i personally use a 24mm on minarelli

  • @qufn6748
    @qufn6748 Před rokem +2

    tuff one brotha good luck

  • @williamnystrom9386
    @williamnystrom9386 Před rokem

    I overlooked reeds for a very long time But when i switched to a beter set i cant go back to orginal, it does Such a difference. And if they do get a slight gap they fuck the motor, it is going to behave horribly. Some of mine was so badly damaged it didn’t even start or want to move forward.

  • @howisitfliping713
    @howisitfliping713 Před rokem +1

    Cool vid Hope the f12 problem is fixt soon

  • @davito33
    @davito33 Před rokem

    i have a yamaha aerox also with a mineralli horizontal engine. the yasuni pipe has a restrictor in the muffler. if you have it still in, that could be one of the issues. i cut mine out and the bike ran way better.

    • @MOPBOYZ
      @MOPBOYZ  Před rokem +1

      i always take them out before installing the exhaust !

  • @mrforeman7443
    @mrforeman7443 Před rokem

    Definitely no expert here but years ago whatever we did to our 2 stroke yams we always stuck with standard reeds. Everytime we had aftermarket reeds it was like massive turbo lagg.

  • @uconsaa
    @uconsaa Před rokem

    if i had that scooter i would try an athena racing cylinder kit with a roost exhaust, that would fly

  • @chiekur2303
    @chiekur2303 Před rokem

    Same issue on my sr, dunno what to do

  • @lolito277
    @lolito277 Před rokem

    I have an f10 (has the horizontal Minarelli) i had the same problem i changed the exhaust and i ran fine

  • @the_postin
    @the_postin Před rokem

    try a 24cp carb... i use it on my 70cc minarelli its perfect

  • @scootermongolerfaaborg9887

    try some other roller and a new belt like a malossi. In my opinion your exhaust is also to big and it can play a part in it too

  • @alexanderwiedenmaier8149

    Thats clutch warmup it expands and bites earlier, you need to use harder clutch springs to skip the low rpm low power range

    • @alexanderwiedenmaier8149
      @alexanderwiedenmaier8149 Před rokem

      Also it might be that the belt is too thicc and you need to space it out with spacers in the cvt.

  • @guembo
    @guembo Před rokem +1

    i think your tank isnt delivering enough fuel try changing the tank valve i had a carb that was starving fuel at low n high rpm and it acted like your f12 but if it acted up at low rp, it was when i was already rolling and tried to accelerate again

    • @MOPBOYZ
      @MOPBOYZ  Před rokem

      fuel petcock or reeds are my only options at this point !

  • @skilledskittles6740
    @skilledskittles6740 Před rokem

    i know your problem and its your ignition you need a DD ignition with a c16 a stock will always bog on you i had the same problem

  • @kylechupick2232
    @kylechupick2232 Před rokem

    I’d try a pink contra spring

  • @shadow_puuhapete
    @shadow_puuhapete Před rokem

    i had that same issue when i changed from airsal 70cc to stage6 mk2. i just changed lighter rollers. btw how do you put a thermometer on aircooled cylinder?

  • @johanjarl7919
    @johanjarl7919 Před rokem

    rollers, look how high the belt travel on the variator, make a draw with a pen and change rollers and see

  • @knallerttuning-dk9666
    @knallerttuning-dk9666 Před rokem +1

    4:05 will you sell it ?

  • @ballsackmanfred
    @ballsackmanfred Před rokem +1

    Where did you get the red case bolts

  • @TimBeta36
    @TimBeta36 Před rokem

    Could be you need to shim the variator with washers. To get the belt higher up the poulies for better take of.

    • @MOPBOYZ
      @MOPBOYZ  Před rokem

      belt fitment is perfect on it already , always shim the variator

  • @captainzeb1083
    @captainzeb1083 Před rokem

    is it not ilegal to make mopeds faster than they are supposed to do in usa?

  • @KTS_U12
    @KTS_U12 Před rokem

    I think you need to try and make the straight intake on this bike, i have a horizontal minarelli aswell with stock front side intake, but alot of people have the straight intake and have no issues. The downside on the straight intake is that you need to make a diy subframe or find a stage 6 subframe.

    • @MOPBOYZ
      @MOPBOYZ  Před rokem +1

      i’ve thought about the straight intake too but i think the s6 subframe only fits aerox not f12

    • @BloodBath707
      @BloodBath707 Před rokem

      @@MOPBOYZ There's an italian shop called FF Motori making subframes

  • @MM-mf5rw
    @MM-mf5rw Před rokem

    Have you ever tried swapping the side jet, had the same problem on my zuma/booster

  • @krikekingwar3052
    @krikekingwar3052 Před rokem +2

    love it

  • @TestHardware823
    @TestHardware823 Před rokem

    i have been tuning scooters for years now i think you need an overrange kit with that highreving cylinder and pipe

    • @porkkanaveeti5111
      @porkkanaveeti5111 Před rokem

      Nah i have a similar setup and i just needed to tighten clutch springs and lighten rollers

  • @jacobgore8978
    @jacobgore8978 Před rokem +1

    You should get a Gilera Runner

  • @stevecameron85
    @stevecameron85 Před rokem +1

    Try a white contra and lighter rollers :)

  • @stevecameron85
    @stevecameron85 Před rokem

    Try a sunworld racing 21mm pwk . They work great

  • @lolgamer8524
    @lolgamer8524 Před rokem

    Try an inner rotor ignition.

  • @andyanders58
    @andyanders58 Před rokem +1

    Reeds sound right. More air ? P.S. GOT ME A NEW BIKE COMING. OLD MAN MOP /ON 🔥 PEACE

  • @simonbendixen352
    @simonbendixen352 Před rokem

    Are you stil Selling some of your scooters/mopeds?

  • @OdongoIsaacLochero-bs8xm

    How can I get this schooter am in Uganda

  • @wrcl6866
    @wrcl6866 Před rokem +1

    Why dont you have any water cooled moped

    • @MOPBOYZ
      @MOPBOYZ  Před rokem +1

      i do , watch the rc one gp1 build vids

  • @pk93cov
    @pk93cov Před rokem

    What spark plug are you running?

  • @pellegrnfeldt6748
    @pellegrnfeldt6748 Před rokem

    honestly the cylinder on the f12 is just weak. either stage 6 racing or malossie mhr. and the weak startup can maybe be fixed with an innerroter ignition

    • @MOPBOYZ
      @MOPBOYZ  Před rokem

      it’s a brand new s6 racing cyl, compression and air test is perfect on it

    • @pellegrnfeldt6748
      @pellegrnfeldt6748 Před rokem

      In ur engine build video u put on s6 sport pro if I'm not wrong? So if it's the sport pro u should change to racing or mhr

  • @lengaming1651
    @lengaming1651 Před rokem

    I wouldnt go any higher than 24mm carb on mopeds, any bigger just makes it incredibly hard to tune.

    • @Rasse796
      @Rasse796 Před rokem

      I run 30mm pwk on mine.

  • @mikkokarttu4366
    @mikkokarttu4366 Před rokem

    Its prob the mk2 intake it was dog shit on my aerox worked but low end didnt have any umf to it

  • @Russfeld
    @Russfeld Před rokem

    Did you ever get the two-seat/handle bodywork?

  • @TheMrHudsonGuy
    @TheMrHudsonGuy Před rokem +1

    Buy 250mm oversize disk front for f12

  • @sebastianpetersen698
    @sebastianpetersen698 Před rokem

    Get a pgo comet its a wellie beast

  • @vcelicka5454
    @vcelicka5454 Před rokem

    Can anyone tell me what is the best tuneable 125 2 stroke scooter??????

    • @xtayber6112
      @xtayber6112 Před rokem

      Piaggio skipper/hexagon motors but theyre from the EU

  • @littlemonkey7783
    @littlemonkey7783 Před rokem

    how many revolutions does the engine turn?

  • @michl3100
    @michl3100 Před rokem

    Try checking the reeds

  • @callmenoob1631
    @callmenoob1631 Před rokem +1

    Try another brand of belt, athena or malossi .another thing is the reed valves

  • @marinob7433
    @marinob7433 Před rokem

    check intake and reed valves.

  • @oskarwennstrom2189
    @oskarwennstrom2189 Před rokem

    Would you ever do a Aerox build?

    • @MOPBOYZ
      @MOPBOYZ  Před rokem

      if i ever come across one in america , but way too expensive to import

  • @exgtt2061
    @exgtt2061 Před rokem

    Smart carbs are great till there’re not

  • @Madsen603
    @Madsen603 Před rokem

    My pgo go,s 62 mph with the original gearing 😅

  • @loekvanlierop7919
    @loekvanlierop7919 Před rokem

    what is the whole setup at the moment?

  • @wxjtus
    @wxjtus Před rokem

    where is the fast throttle from?

  • @milsachocomelk
    @milsachocomelk Před rokem

    do u know what kinda ignition and clutch you ll put on the puch

    • @MOPBOYZ
      @MOPBOYZ  Před rokem

      hammer clutch with malossi springs, stock ignition for now

  • @vasiltrenchev-burzaka2848

    Time for selettra 😮

  • @tomkranenonk3163
    @tomkranenonk3163 Před rokem

    what front forks ya have on there?

  • @DennisSpecial
    @DennisSpecial Před rokem

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @teunjansens1414
    @teunjansens1414 Před rokem

    Put a domino switch in the gap

  • @kylechupick2232
    @kylechupick2232 Před rokem

    Sounds like a cvt issue

  • @malisidi
    @malisidi Před rokem

    No filter,fatalities еngine

  • @BoozySZN
    @BoozySZN Před rokem

    if you end up wanting to sell that smart carb, let me know :D

  • @rockys777
    @rockys777 Před rokem

    its your ignition system or you are too lean, it isn't cvt

    • @MOPBOYZ
      @MOPBOYZ  Před rokem

      i don’t think it’s lean, i up jets , had a bigger carb, had it running rich did same thing, then changed jets to way smaller . same thing. changed carb to smaller, ran better but still same issue, im either saying it’s the fuel petcock or reeds at this point

    • @rockys777
      @rockys777 Před rokem

      @@MOPBOYZ when you cracked the throttle open when it was warm it bogged badly indicating a lean condition or an ignition problem. i would check the exhaust for no leaks near the cylinder flange and then i would swap the cdi and the coil for a tested working one and see how it goes

  • @1.daniellalbiharie12
    @1.daniellalbiharie12 Před rokem

    5th