How To DIY Bank Lighting For Filmmaking - Basic Filmmaker Ep 114
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- DIY Bank Light - Cheap, inexpensive and great for green screen work as you'll see in my next episode.
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@Renee Molnar has suggested these lights, and they look GREAT and only cost $55!! Thank you!
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So Kevin are you saying these lights will work in place of the ones you had in your video above? Just make sure to get the right bulbs???
I haven’t tested it, but they look legit. Note that you would need FOUR, two for each side, as they’re just under 2 foot long.
@@BasicFilmmaker I did not notice that they were that short... Urrghh. Already ordered 2. Thanks so much for getting back to me :-)
Renee Molnar Let me know how it goes. Could be two are enough - love to know.
$75.50 now :( :(
7 years ago, and still this is one of the best videos about bank lighting (although now LED is cheap enough). Actually all your videos are one of the bests. Thank you!
Thank you, appreciate it.
Don't mind me. I'm just making my way back to the "BASICS OF GREEN SCREEN - Everything You Need To Know" video...
😂😂😂 Thanks for the laugh!!
I too am here from there; I was wondering if LED strip lights (the flat kind) would make for good, lightweight and VERY inexpensive tunable light solution ?
Haven’t tried it but sounds right. They just need enough output.
@@BasicFilmmaker I think I'm going to make one as a test; put them on a $6 lunch tray. and they will be unbreakable. The cool thing is they could be used as a battery-powered light using a power brick, and their low height would allow them to be placed almost anywhere. Lots of them even have remote control options (physical or even app-based). Output is the biggest question. A quick google has this to say:
"LED strip brightness is typically described in lumens per foot (or meter). A good quality LED strip should provide at least 450 lumens per foot (1500 lumens per meter), which provides approximately the same amount of light output per foot as a traditional T8 fluorescent lamp."
@@done.8373 Hey Don, how was your experiment? Did it work?
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I’ve been searching for these DIY lights for a while. Now back to the green screen video tutorial! You got yourself a thumbs up and a new subscriber.
Thank you! - Kevin
Your videos on lighting green screen are outstanding. Simple, repeatable, and eliminates so much "fix it in post".
These instructions are timeless. Thank you.
Thanks Pete! As you probably know a lot of work goes into creating these videos a nice comments are always welcomed!
@@BasicFilmmaker It takes me about an hour of real time to create 1 minute of video, or 5 hours to do 5 minutes of finished video. That is setup, color, take after take, reviewing, sorting keep from blooper, sync audio, edit, edit the edit, reshoot... and clean up. Not including tags, hashtags, Wordpress blog, posting to social media, all the SEO stuff.
Yep, that’s about right. I’ve streamlined my process somewhat, but a minimum of everything in about 5 hours is as fast as I can go for any video. The more complex, the longer it takes.
Great episode Basic! "They flicker like a Mo-Fo on camera" lol. Best line ever.
Thanks D! And yeah, they do! :)
@@BasicFilmmaker Oh.. look at that, I"m a big fan of D4 in South Africa - guess it takes one to see another! Anyway, I'm curious, you're presentation is impeccable - your script is on point and your punch line are just pin point on the dot..which I must admit makes me suspect its all scripted....and READ every-line? So my question is if it is scripted - are you using a teleprompter of sort and where have you placed it? I suspect you are and I think I know where it is, if so please let me know as I've been meaning to do the same (...as I think and hope you've done)
Came here from your Basics of Green Screen vid, this is fantastic, thanks you so much! Almost 6 years later and it is so relevant. With everything moving online for COVID, my job description has changed drastically to include producer, cameraman, lighting engineer, and editor. You are saving my butt for sure. Thanks Kevin!
Thanks Ian. And thanks for being a subscriber!!
Simply amazing stuff. I'm scrambling trying to catch up on all the lost years of not knowing about your channel! Thank you!
Thanks so much Megan
I have these ideas on paper, been waiting to bring them to life. Your videos are helpful, and entertaining. Enjoy the demonstrations.
Yep, this is some of the best info out there, and I could watch/listen to you all day.
Thanks for the amazing tips!!
Thank you Matt. Much apprenticed.
Thanks Kevin, six years later and I still enjoyed your video.....ok back to the OTHER video...
I have to say, I stumbled across this channel on complete accident while watching some of Peter McKinnon's videos about photography and editing. I started looking at different camera work and sound design and your video showed up in the recommended feed. I forgot which one it was because after I saw that particular one, I fell down the rabbit hole of CZcams and started watching everything that I can find with basic filmmaker. I really enjoy how simple and to the point you are. I love how you don't bullshit around and try to sell the product but more or less educate and try to point people in the right direction. As someone with a low budget myself I could really appreciate when I feel like somebody's trying to teach me about things rather than push a sale on me. Keep doing what you do and you will have a subscriber in me for life.
Thanks! Appreciate the kind comment NuKhaos!
Another rock'in episode! You gotta love DIY. Starting to run basic greenscreen (not too fancy) and just needed to control the hotspots. Your video is the best few minutes I have spent in a while. Keep it up.
Thanks so much!
Man, this guy is the best! Thanks for all that you do!
Thanks Sidney! 👍
2 years and 351 days post release of episode...
BLOODY AWESOME !!!!
I'll build some soon!!!
Thanks !
Nice. If you get a chance, let me know how it goes!
did you end up building some.. I'm looking into doing this now..
Awesome that you did this just so to show it can be done.
I guess next up will be the epic all-you-ever-need-to-do-for-good-green-screen-work-video you talked about earlier? You get some of the best results out there (seen a lot of folks ending up with soft edges... green spill, not good), so I'm happy to learn how you do it. As always: thanks for sharing!
***** Thanks! Yeah, I've been getting pretty good results for this type of episodic shooting. I figure I gotta start somewhere on this, and since most people do the talking head thing, we can start there.
Legendary stuff, mate! Love your work! All the best from Norway!
Thank you! Cheers!
Made a set of these lights, they work great! Love your videos, thanks for making them!
Thank you!!
This is the first DIY lighting episode that I didn't find too scary to even think about trying. Great episode!
Thanks Penguin!
You produce fun, highly informative videos. Just what a newbie needs. This was my 2nd of your channel, I will be watching a bunch more! Thumbs up and subscribed...
Thanks Jim! I'm really glad you like the content. It's not ALL perfect, but I try.
GREATEST THING I’VE EVER WATCHED! PERFECT FOR MY GAMING CHANNEL 👍🏾
Great!
After fooling around with a few different clamp on work lights, this looks like the best solution for the type of videos I do, thanks for the "how to"!
Larned Justin You bet. Makes a lot more sense when you see the next video. These are almost always used behind the talent for green screen work or background lighting.
You're awesome. This DIY is awesome. Great presenting... Thank you!
Thank You Matt!
I like this channel. Straight to the point and waaaay useful. Thank you.
Mesh Frequency Thanks Mesh. BTW...Cool logo.
Just found your channel, YOU ARE THE MAN!!!
Thanks Jonathan!
Fabulous, thank you! Exactly the guidance I needed to help me improve my music videos.
Thanks Wendell Live!!
Love it! Awesome content! Can't wait to see what else you guys come out with.
Bomb Diggity Thanks Bomb. No guys - just me. :)
...sssh...ugar lumps, fairy cakes and mistletoe, I felt that! Another excellent how to, thanks again for more superb advice :)
helgan35 LOL! Thanks Helgan!
Awesome to see you back, this is a well needed lesson too.
TheChadmania CHAD!!!!! Hello! These will make a lot of sense in my next video. AND.....nothing posted in a year??? (hehe)
I know,I think I realized I was enjoying acting more than filming so I've done a lot more musical theatre and plays and stop the videos. I definitely want to keep learning and pursuing though. I'll post something soon (hint hint)
TheChadmania
That's great Chad. I wish earlier in my career I had done a lot of acting and stage, as I think I would have understood more what these people experience. What little acting I have done - it's really frickin hard (at least for me). Glad to see you're doing what you want to do. And yeah, I can take a hint. :)
Yeah, I'm really enjoying myself on the stage and in front of the camera but I love the behind-the-camera action as well.
Love the wit. Subbed. I may have just found my weekend project.
Cool. Just check around online like at Amazon. In this day and age the cheaper LED strip lights are almost as cheap as the materials for this now.
I'm going to try making some of these. I changed my garage lights over to LED a while back and put the old lights in the storage shed, guess I should head to the hardware store and get some better bulbs.
Yep. Do the research, You want color consistency and no flicker.
you are amazing man, i just discovered you last night after searching for better tips on green screen. I had a pretty decent set up for my first try but after experiments and trying new things i realized it wasn't going to cut it...i spent time cleaning some space in the garage today where i work and finally set it up to where i can stretched the green screen...i have been wanting to do this for some time but my space has a lot of clutter. I was really impressed last night with your studio space and how clean and well managed it is, i have been wanting to do this for some time now and i really want a nice set up like you have. i am new to all this and learning so many things and really happy i found you. so my next search today was the lighting you mentioned in your other video and i really like this idea and will be doing this next
i need a little more work cleaning so i can make room for them but i will manage it. i have bigger plans after april when i get time to make a cleaner nicer space that i feel i want now but didn't really want when i started, i didn't think i would like this as much as i do. so for now i will take the first advice and work with the green screen than move on to learning everything you have to share. really appreciate you.
Thanks very much for the kind comments.
Basic Filmmaker for sure, you have inspired me, been a little discouraged the past couple weeks and needed a boost, appreciate you ... I got greenscreener last night and started searching the items I will need to build the banks last night. I really need them
Nice. Love to see what you come up with!
@@BasicFilmmaker i will show you when i do it, i have some work to do to make space for them, but I will show you when i come up with something.
Great!
WOW I think my eyes are GREEN now! long video --- very long -- but I think I watched most of it -- SUPER GOOD ;) Thank you
Great. Thank Kevin.
You bet!
I would love to see a redo of this video using LEDs! LED Lighting in general has become much more affordable since this video.
I did another video where I used LED lights, and although they were quite expensive, I think you could do the same thing that video covered using green LED lights which is the way to go. They’re quite cheap now and some googling will get you what you want.
Excellent & interesting video. Although I don't intend to use them in near future but I can see amount of hard work and editing on this project, appreciated.
Thanks Henry!
going to try! Thanks!
Let me know how it goes!
Every time I went to a bank, I thought the lighting there was smoother than everywhere else. And now I know why! Thank you! :)
Thanks Walter!
Kevin - The Basic Filmmaker
I hope you took that with a smile. On a serious note, I think this will be one of my projects on my to do list :)
Always a 😁. Neat project, now in 2020 you can practically buy led banks light for that.
Kevin - The Basic Filmmaker
Yes, LED’s. I love them and I hate them.
Cheers! :)
This is GOLD
Thanks! 👍
I'm consistently pleased with your even evaluation of techniques.
I've actually spoken to (shot down) the inventor of Kinos, and this is definitely the way to go if you don't need to have the added necessity of 'show,' and know what you're doing.
kurt lindner Thank Kurt. I don't mean to shoot down these pro lighting manufacturers. I do however, know that a lot of people watching this show don't have the kind of budgets that people who use these lights do, so hopefully this alternative will help.
***** You're right, I may have incorrectly phrased my meaning with, "shot down;" with the Kino thing, it was merely, "you're profit margin is excessive."
On real sets, people just want stuff that works without overly thinking about it, and everyone knows already, which I can appreciate.
For sure. And I'm good with "shot down." i do know these Kino lights are reliable as hell, and I can tell you, you drop or mishandle these DIY lights, and they're toast. Of course, you could just buy and build like 30 of these DIY lights for the same price and not give a crap. :)
Are phillips lights at cri 82 just as good? I cant seem to find any of the ones you recommended anywhere.
Might be ok. These come and go. I usually try for CRI 90, but haven't used lower CRIs. Amazon, Home Depot, and Lowe's are my usual sources.
Great video. I used them and the video came out wonderful... But if I wanted to the fluorescent tubes as single light sources without the bank housing. Will the ballast still work effectively with extended wiring. Thanks
I would think so, haven't tried it. I am definitely not an electrician or electrical type person. :)
Awesome low cost solution.
Chef Kendra Nguyen Thanks Chef! These make a lot more sense in my next video. :)
Can't wait to see how it all comes together!
Hello, Basic Film Maker :) your videos look great from Romania and I've learned a lot from them. Thank you for that. Now I have a question: I want to do the project using a led light 1,7 metter long, 7350 lumeni, but with a CRI of 83. Do you think its a good idea? In the video you mention CRI over 90 plus. Thank you
My concers are about the number of lumeni: is it enough? And about the CRI value. And I am buying 1,7 metters lights because I want a big light properly green screen. I want to use just one bulb on each side. Not 4 as in your project.
+Școala de Dans Let's Dance A long like like you are talking is good. EVERY decision you make about lighting a green screen should be based on EVEN lighting. If it takes 10 lights, or just 2, even lighting (no hot spots) is the key. You can buy or DIY whatever you want. Just make sure it's even, and your keying will be a breeze.
Thank you for the reply, Basic Filmmaker! I will get them and I hope I can do the 1 Click Green Screen as you do it. Thank again
Man, that was awesome. TY.
Thanks again Don!
Another great video :)
Holy crap.
Thank you !
Hi！I'm Davide from Milan (Italy). I'm watching your tuts with enthusiasm as I'm approaching DIY green screen film-making for fun and a commercial project for myself. Congrats on the whole youtube project, very well done, instructive and entertaining!
I gave up DIYing the green screen and the 3 points lighting system as in Italy it's way cheaper to buy them on Amazon, but the light banks are on the way as per your tutorial. However, I'm finding difficult, very difficult, to find the right flo bulbs and the housing hosting 4 bulbs. So the question is:
1) Would one 150cm housing per side hosting 2 52W bulbs at 4000K / 82or85 CRI do the trick? My hair color is blond and I read that a CRI below 90 could render yellowish halos around the talent and cause problems with the edges and hair of the subject filmed. However at the same time I also read that a CRI of 82 is already in the range of white /sun light. Unfortuately in Italy flo-bulbs can either be found at 4000K or 6700K and online no one is offering differently...
2) I would be filmino in a small environment on a 3 meters wide green screen, and therefore the banks would be very next to the green screen. With such lighing setup, would the floor banks also be needed if I want to shoot head to feet?
I thank you in advance.
Ciao,
Davide
Davide Pasini Hello David. The CRI stand for Color Rendering Index. That's how ell the color renders based on the K value. In other words, the lower the CRI, the more variability. The values you are referring to are the K values. 5000-5500K is like a white flash, 5500K to 6500K is like daylight (and a bit bluer) and so on, 4000-5000K is a bit yellower and so on down. If all you can get is say 4000K, then you can just adjust the K value on your camera to suit. The above values are just an estimate, and there are many differing opinions on this. This link may help: photographyelement.com/intro-to-white-balance/ and again, you can just adjust the K value on your camera to change the white balance so it looks correct.
Great info Kevin, I have subscribed - thanks for what you do, I will utilize your info in my next vids!! Wosop!!
Hey thanks so much!
Wow awesome, I remember seeing somebody make a video about these DIY, but I was scared to do them because he was talking about how you have to get a ballast and wire it. I didnt want to mess with it. I'm going to go order this stuff right now. Thanks man!!
Scuba James Awesome Scuba. In my next video their purpose will become more clear. Buckhead Live - nice stuff!
***** Hey thanks man, Yea I just started messing with different shutter speeds, and I really like the effect. Can't wait for the next video!!
Very cool thanks
You bet
amazing!! THANK-YOU!!
Thank you too!
Aw man, this is so good! Now I just need to source the parts in my own country... gah!!
+Patrick Monaghan Yeah, I get that a lot.
Good stuff! Nicely done!
Thanks again Erik
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I apologize if you've already answered this question, and I just can't find it anywhere, but what kind of light stands are those and how much do they hold? I'm able to make these bank lights with the links you provided but I'm scared to buy light stands that can't support them. Thanks!
+Sierra Nelson Hey Sierra. The one I mounted them on were part of a green screen light package that was very cheap. As long as one of the legs is pointed in the direction of the weight you should be fine, but, that being said, they lights are not pro lights, and do not take any abuse. If these are just going to sit in a studio set up they should be fine though.
Yeah I plan to set them up and just lock it all down. Almost none of my videos require transportable lights. Thank You! Your channel is extremely helpful to me.
+Sierra Nelson Thanks Sierra.
Hi. Great video. Thank you. Any reason I could not use LED tube lights for this project? If so, is there a color temp you would recommend? I believe you mentioned 5500k in the video. I would be using these for green screen lighting. Thanks!
Yes, in 2020 for sure. You could even get green LEDs and it would be better.
Thanks for the tip.
Big Guy Review You bet Big Guy. Cool moniker...I get to call you "Big Guy." :)
Perfect for renters who want to work on unpaid passion projects!
For sure!
I wonder, could you use the 'Yeelight meteorite' as a backlight? It's a long, smart, ceiling light which could be hung vertically. The lighting seems to be uniform and diffused. It would be a very interesting solution if it was possible. Not overly expensive (compared to real backlights) and controllable through the Yeelight app.
Thanks for the very informative video.
You bet Paul. Be interested to see if that works for you.
Thank you.
You bet!
Good episode. I was thinking of doing that kind of light when I saw it in indymogul. But I still haven't :p
I suppose you will use it for keying. So question : did you know that Blackgmagic fusion 7 is now free ? :)
Kradukman Didn't know Fusion 7 is free. Thanks. Didn't know IndyMogul had done this either. Thanks, I'll check it out! :)
How hot do those bank lights get? I feel like I would I start sweating with those near me lol. Great DIY. I really might have to consider this option.
Michael Warbux Really not hot at all. Their main purpose is to light a green screen or background, and those are behind you.
Have you considered LED bulbs made for florescent light fixtures? I put them in my basement ceiling ficturws and they are so bright and cool that I only needed two bulbs in each of the four bulb bays. For your DIY Bank lights, they may be just about perfect.
For sure. 6 years ago LEDs were super expensive.
this was one great video
FamilyFirstJ Thanks Fam! VFX test - LOL! :)
I’m late to the game and loving the content in your channel. Wish all the links for this light kit worked though. Either way, keep up the amazing work!!!!!
Do you have the part number for the shop light?
I quit trying to update the link long ago as it was becoming a daily thing. Search for shop lights, better yet, in 2021 go with LEDs as they are a lot cheaper now.
Brilliant! Thank you!
Unfortunately the links don't appear to be working.. plus I'm in the UK so could do with finding a local source.
Is there anyway you could post links to the actual products used so that I can search our local retailers?
I did a search on "Sylvania Full Spectrum 5000k tube" but I have no idea if anything that comes up matches.
Many thanks
I've subscribed!
Hey there. I don't update the links anymore as it almost became a full-time career for me. The links kept changing daily/weekly/monthly - prices up and down, etc. Just find some 5000K-ish tubes with a shell that has a ballast and you'll be good. Also, since making this video, these light panels have come WAY down, and it might be better to research the cost of buying vs making them.
yeah I would find this useful too.. I'm also in the U.K.
Fantastic. Thanks.
ClockCutter Thanks Clock!
The DIY bank lights that I use have an additional switch allowing me to turn off half of the bulbs. I don't use this option as much as I expected. I tend to scrim them with window screen instead. Great episode as always.
Thanks man...great tip on the screen scrim! Note for others...a scrim is a screen, cloth or other (non-combustible) material put over lights to diffuse them i some way. :)
Here is a bit more info for the readers. Window screen will cut the intensity of the light by 1 or more stops depending on the density of the screen you get. It will not effect the other qualities of the light. Another options is to use a 20X24 inch ND gel, cut into two 10X24 inch strips. Diffusion material will also cut the intensity of light, but will also soften the light a bit. Placing shiny aluminum tape on the cover behind the bulbs will give you a bit more intensity. To control the directionality of the light, place a grid (egg crate) used with drop ceiling fixtures in front of the light. Chrome and flat black work best.
DIYCameraGuy That's cool. Thanks! Now how about a video on what stops are, and what ND gel is. 9 months since the last video! 1200 subscribers! (This is a joke, I know you're freakin busy with a project). :)
Holy crap, I have 1200 subs. When did that happen? The feature is coming along well. I have a little behind the scenes footage shot. Now all I need is a clone to go to work for me so I can get some editing done for the channel. Thanks for the friendly nudge though, it helps. I am a little nervous about lighting the night scene this weekend, interior day for night. It is on a second story with no outside access to the windows. I have a plan lets hope it works.
Very cool. I hope you're BTSing this stuff - love to see it. Good luck!
Need some cheap bank lights? These may help.
I would put a nut on the light stand to tighten the lights down. Although it would still have some tension on the bracket, you could probably have to "L" brackets mounted on a sheet of metal and either drill a hole or mount another bracket and tighten it on the light stand. :)
Great video... I recently put together a similar low cost set-up using those round aluminum work lights (found at your local home center type store); I like the set-up in this video better though, and may add a couple of these in the future! Thanks for posting!
Great idea Nate. As I said, there's all sorts of thing you could do to this thing if you have the time. I went as basic as I could to show it could be done for my next video.
+Super Sunday The price on what? The bank lights? Yes,that's the comparison link. The other cheap DIY lights to do this are in the description.
I went to my local Lowe's and found everything I needed. I spent about $150 to make both lights. The LED panel lights were about the same cost but the one fluorescent bulb puts out more then half the entire light of the LED panel.
Nice. Those should work well then.
I had to move the panels 4-5ft in from of the screen and angle them in to remove the hotspots. I thought the panels would be on the sides of the screen but it get hotspots on the edges. Am I doing something wrong?
@@HotloadsTTV leds are spotty
Is it possible to do this with a shop light that holds two bulbs instead of the four, or will I need the four bulb holder to provide enough light?
@TheBasicFilmmaker Do you have the link for the type of ballast you used?
Thanks
+SolasCPC It came with the lights.
I have the money, getting the Kino Flos. Thanks Kevin!
Those are really good. 👍
was just looking this up yesterday
Brian Michael Cool. You'll see the value in the next video. :)
***** can't wait
wow, thx sir.
Sigh. Sees comment 5 years later. LOL!
Excellent!
Thanks Ernest!
Great video - could you please update the links to product above? They have all expired (except the bracket). Thank you.
Kevin. Have you tried this DIY with the newer LED non ballasted shop lights? I have a smaller studio and was thinking of two 2 bulb 4 foot lights with frosted covers.
I have not. I’ve gone to green led lights. But it sounds like what you are talking about should work just fine.
@@BasicFilmmaker thank you. I loved the green lights but can't swing the $400 per right now.
For sure. You can check into green LED or bulbs and get the same effect.
Hi Kevin, thanks again for this great content. I bought a pair of shoplights. They include an electronic certified ballast. I shouldn’t need a new one, right?
MCI Consultores You shouldn’t. Mine worked fine, but I never know if I’m not using the exact one you have.
Sure! Thanks again sensei
Sensei. LOL! Thanks!
#coronavirus leading to a ban on events led me here ( wow! what a word play, can't believe it's me too😂).
I see me making green screen setups for my guests as I stream live. Virtual eventing is the way to go now! Good stuff 👍
True that! Working on a very basic live stream video that should be up soon. :)
Awesome video! So are the ballasts automatically included with the lights. The product description online don't seem to clarify that piece. Thanks so much for all you do, Kevin!!
Thanks! On fluorescent type lights, you just make sure they have a ballast built in so they don’t flicker and your good.
@@BasicFilmmaker Thanks again! I'm excited to give these a try!!
+BelieverFever great!!
+BelieverFever Let me know how it works out for you.
Will do! It might be a bit as I'm starting a new business 11/1 but will let you know when I do finally build them!
Could this be done by hanging 1 or 2 lights from the ceiling for a semi-permanent install for streaming?
I don't see why not. Make sure you test it before permanently fixing it.
I tried a dimmer on these lights and it didn't work. Any thoughts?
Man. I'm not sure a dimmer would work on these, unless they are rated for that. Haven't tried it, and I think the problem is the regulator that you need so it doesn't flicked - you start changing the voltage and the regulator must freak out.
When I saw this video, I realised why my videos flicker. Reason was, I was living in South Africa previously and now Australia where in both countries electricity/lights flicker at 50 Hz and I recorded at 24/30/60 fps. After watching this video, not only did I save a lot of money making my own green screen lights, but I also set my camera on PAL instead of NTSC, and I recorded at 25 or 50 fps instead of 24/30/60 fps - flickering problem solved! 🙏
Wow! What a great tip for filmming in different countries. Thanks for sharing it Gerrie!
Hi Kevin, great video as always. I was wondering, in terms of lumens, how much brightness would usually be required for adequately lighting a green screen? I understand lumens are probably the best way of comparing different types of lights (I have learnt a lot from an earlier video of yours on lighting in general). Also, these days cheap LED batten lights are readily available. Could they make a good substitute for fluorescent tubes? Many thanks in deed.
You can use any lights. Lumens? Just use ANY lights, adjust ISO between 100 to say 1200 and go. You'll know if you need more light.
Many thanks for your response@@BasicFilmmaker
hello. thanks for this video it is very informative. though the links are no longer active. or the pages they go to aren't. just fyi. thanks again!
Thanks! I gave up a long time ago trying to keep updated links. They go bad so quickly, and it was becoming a career. 👍
oh and do you have any alternative bulbs to choose from? seems that the ones i'm finding online are sold in cases of 30. i only need 8 right?
Yep. Eight. Look around. Their availability changes daily.
Hi, great video very useful. Would this work with LED fluorescent lights? Looking at the spec it states no flicker although the output rated at daylight is 6500.
Regards
Lewis
Yeah I was wondering about that. I guess someone needs to just try them. I'm also thinking about buying more GVM style led panels, yes more expensive, but then you have more options adjusting temp of the lights.
In theory, yes, but there a couple of things to verify:
1. "No flicker" could mean no *visible* flicker. Or it could actually mean a dead-flat trace on a meter hooked to an oscilloscope. Make sure you know which it is.
2. DON'T FORGET THE CRI!!! LED's are notorious for bad color rendering. There are good ones, but the cheap ones are not. The reason is that a "white" LED is not actually white. It's a combination of a blue LED and a yellow phosphor. The phosphor works the same as it does in a fluorescent light: it absorbs short wavelengths of light and emits longer wavelengths. In a fluorescent tube, the phosphor absorbs ultraviolet and emits a wide range of visible light, while in a "white" LED, the phosphor is designed differently to absorb blue and emit a range of yellows. The combination of imperfectly absorbed blue (on purpose) plus yellow, gives the appearance of white, despite there not being much red, green, or violet. As you might expect, this is awful when you want to represent colors accurately, hence a low or unpublished CRI number.
That said, there are "high CRI" white LED's that have a bit more engineering behind them and are thus more expensive, but they have a different LED and a different phosphor, or multiples of each, that actually fill out the entire visible spectrum. THAT is what you're looking for. Insist on a CRI that is actually published for starters, then look for at least 90 (the best possible is direct sunlight at 100; incandescents are naturally around 99 without even trying), and an industry-standard test method.
@@aaronduerksen1378 Thank you, very helpful and something I had forgotten to check for so will do
Absolutely! CHeap does not get you good, and CRI may be important. I'm doing a fresh updated version of this soon using GREEN leds. Stay tuned.
Is it possible to get an updated links for lights? Those lights are no longer available.
These have changed sooooo many times and I've updated the links - I can't keep u wit it as the ones I link get sold out, and we're back again.. Just look for the bulbs I mention, on Amazon, at Lowes, Home Depot or wherever you would get these. Make sure they have a good CRI value, and you should be good. They last a long time...I still have the ones I bought when I made this video.
What is the metal part called that the Ballast comes in? I cannot find the metal that comes with the ballast. I can only just buy the ballast itself. Thank you and great vid by the way!
You get these with the ballast built in. It’s inside the lights. Just check if it has one or not and you’re good.
@@BasicFilmmaker okay, but where do I buy them. I cannot find them at lowes or home depot? Where did you buy yours at?
It's good flatfrom
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Very nicely done. Thank you! Is there a reason you use fluorescent rather tian led lights? Seems to me led 's would be easier to build into a bank?
Just what was available at the time. No reason the right LEDs could be used.
I just saw this video and was wondering the same thing - replace the fluorescent bulbs with the LED replacements. I know some of these need to be rewired to take the ballast out of the circuit - I'm just wondering if the LED's end up flickering on screen? The LEDs come in a variety of color temperatures. For non-photo use, I'm planning on converting a few of mine in the utility room and see what the outcome is.
You mean for LEDs take the ballast out? Just buy LED light banks which are pretty cheap. If you mean the normal fluorescent, you WANT the ballast as that is what controls the light output and keeps them from flickering. The ballast is the electricity flow regulator. Those flickering fluorescent lights you see have a damaged or no ballast. Love to hear how your conversion goes Bill Karle. Thanks!
@@BasicFilmmaker thanks for the reply! Much appreciated. I have an led as my main room light so I wanted to keep the light even. I am not that clued up on led's, but do they Flicker on and off like fluorescents, causing strobe effects? Or do they have a constant output? I have been picking up some flickering on my camera and am not sure if it's the camera or led's. Thank you
@@paca_bill4863 yeah, Bill, if your banks are already installed then remove the ballast. But if you starting afresh def buy led banks, cheaper and easier
Will this work for portrait photography IE will there be flickering at say 1/100 shutter speed.
With the newer LED light lights, do they work as well as the fluorescent lights?
Yep. This is an older video, and since then LEDs have dropped dramatically. I would check into already built LED lights like these and it may cost less than building it.
Hello how are you. I am from India. I like to watch your video is more informative.. you are doing great 👍. And PLEASE do more practically so we can learn more from you
I suppose to say practically, by mistake i said practice... Its auto correct problem
Great video thank you so much. Unfortunately the top 2 links for the lights are no longer valid. Could you add a new link?
Hey Kevin! GREAT name (also a Kevin). :) I keep updating these links and they keep changing them. Look for 32-Watt 5000K Natural Daylight Linear Fluorescent Tube Light Bulb, and Utilitech Linear Shop Light (Common: 4-ft).
@@BasicFilmmaker How about these: www.amazon.com/Limostudio-Lighting-Digital-Fluroescent-Barndoor/dp/B00C7XVFIY/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1547656977&sr=1-4&keywords=bank+lights
Double dippin on those comments, eh? (joke - I don't care). :)
@@BasicFilmmaker sorry, I was replying to your reply. Once again, thank you!
Really. Don't care - just joking around. Thanks for watching commenting. :)
I hope your fingers are well! In Hong Kong we have some really cheap LED and bank light from China at a price point comparable to DIY stuff. However DIY is really fun! Love this episode. LAM
***** Oh hell Lam! Can you post a link to these? Love to see them.
***** I used to buy from eBay and Amazon until I discovered a website called taobao dot com where it has already got 10% of sales market of mainland China. You could virtually find anything at wholesale price.
***** Ha! I tried looking at the site, ran it through Google translate, and I still can't find anything. Thanks! :)
That site need Chinese search terms and therefore I took a while to figure out how to find stuff from trillions of products.
Ahha. Thanks!
Earned a sub from me - great work!
Awesome, thank you!
What shop light was that you never said
Too long ago, sorry!
Nice video! I work with a Lowel DV Creator 55 Kit to light my subject and these lights are Tungsten 3200K. Would i get in trouble if i would use your DIY fluorescent lights to light the Green screen?
Cause somebody once told me to not mix light sources.
Hope you can help
Greetz lenny
+lennart holterman Hey Lenny. I don't think it would be a problem. You can gel the lights, or better yet, just get 3200k lights to match.