@darksidefla7274 Yall Ace Amin hate has to stop. Yes, he has to get his pacing together, but he is one of the best writers in all of battle rap. Lowkey top 10. Get rid of all these cookie cutter battlers that rap like Twork.
The sponsor was covid money , that's lightning in a bottle. Good luck In the future cause the economy and money flow and access is different now and for the foreseeable future.
but url fans cuss out everyone and say url has boat loads of money because everyone wants to see url battles so bad everyone is paying for tickets, ppvs and the app like crazy, if u let url fans talk they will say smack himself is lying and they understand the company better than smack himself and say the money is coming back,, url is the most wanted and battle rap is so loved worldwide, reality is battle rap lost millions of fans many years ago and their fan engagement all leagues combined is decreasing every year.. battle rap is not as popular as everyone WANTS it to be, fans gotta get over it.. its dying slowly
@@Jundarippa let’s do some simple math… let’s say URL fan base is 1.5 million and they have their fans that are subscribed that pays the 8.95 they asking for… how much bread is that for the company per month? Than multiply that number by 12. That’s 107 Million PER YEAR where the company eats, the battle rappers eat and the fans who subscribed get the battles they paying for… literally.
I found your analysis insightful ... youre right cycles come and go in all businesses.... Also most music genres last 20 years on average before fading out. Battle rap is at 15 years ... A few cycles from now it will have to reinvent itself or die. Hiphop reinvented itself drastically ... the rugged street element faded out around 2000 from 1980 with the breaks etc... the middle class kids who grew up wanting to participate in hiphop controlled (2k-2020 give or take)... now for the next phases we might see sub-genres get more deep like rock. Battle rap will always be niche so I wonder outside of leagues for different demogaphics.... how it will diversify....
Goodz & Verb being bloggers is the most hilarious thing in the world. From being Mr marketable rapper to Mr CZcams. From Mr money talk rapper to another CZcams blogger.
Whoever can get Brizz on stage to battle will own 2024.... All other things are possible.... Even if the artist come together and create thier own collective league is easy....
But is the money really gone? Or are we all falling for the okie doke 🤔 Beasley: “Smack go in front the camera an tell them the moneys gone so they’ll stop asking for what they deserve”
Good I appreciate 🙏 this breakdown. Top tiers Battle rappers HAVE TO have another lane of income. Their some Battle rappers who simply rely on only one income
It literally took Goodz 13:00 mins to say "BR needs another big investor" at the 4:00 min mark 😆 Goodz aka THE SLOWEST EXPLAINER IN BR. Leave the blogger game alone bro, you literally say A BUNCH OF NOTHING or things we ALR KNOW.
It's not even just about "taking the money and putting it into something else." It's about taking YOUR NAME and making something of it. That was the con of the rappers being on the app instead of CZcams.
nobody wants to see Lux battle DNA, Brizz vs Cal already happened at Summer madness 6, swamp is trash, ms fit hasnt battled in ages, he wont do good. Mook vs Arsonal is the only battle that makes sense, i dont think it will happen because Mook been ducking arsonal for years.
Honestly, battle rap has no business on Caffeine. Battle rappers didn't have no business making that kind of money when they are unprofessional asf. Honestly, the cap amount on paying a battle rapper, should be $25,000. Anything over that, and they need to find a way into the industry. Smack blew up battle rap as soon as he broke the bank and gave Mook $50,000. 😂😂😂
If you don't decide to take a payout there is somebody that is lurking willing to take it to make that money , sometimes u have to put your ego in check and say look we.gonna get it at all means necessary
ABA had its own league, merged with the NBA, XFL merged with UFL, Sprint and T-Mobile merger, LIV golf merged with PGA, there’s no reason RBE can’t merge leagues with URL to create something bigger and more sustainable for battle rap. We’re stronger together than divided, the sponsors will continue to come and go because the leagues are too divided. Eazy, K shine, bigg K some of battle raps biggest can’t battle on a certain stage loses revenue. If Lebron, Curry and joker don’t play in the NBA it loses the NBA money, stop restricting battlers to unrealistic contracts for a league that can’t sustain enough revenue to keep its talent Happy 🤷🏿♂️. We’re stronger together than divided seems simple enough. Merge then sign a multimillion dollar Netflix deal, so battle rap can be streamed globally. Gotta be a market for that 🤷🏿♂️
I don’t think that’s what smack was saying I think his words got taken out of context, I think he speaking purely in terms of profit after funding the event, not that there would not be money in battle rap nomore
@archietech5495 what Smack means is that the URL IS TAKING LOSSES AFTER BATTLE RAP EVENTS. Example : if they dished out 100k to battle rappers for an event , after tickets sales and ppv sales they only made back 70k .. that’s a 30k loss to the URL. I think most battle rappers will take a pay cut , being that some may not have any thing going on outside of battle rap
I agree with you. He is just saying the money is coming in “Slow” right now and won’t bounce back as high as it has ever done before. Smack knows the game cold.
I agree with you. He is just saying the money is coming in “Slow” right now and won’t bounce back as high as it has ever done before. Smack knows the game cold.
So Goodz let me ask you think you should do a blog on buddy who left because he wanted CZcams drops. Was he wrong or right now because a lot of people was saying he wrong at first
Goodz I think that battle rap needs to reinvent Itself meaning bigger battles would have to happen and also those who drive the culture forward needs to be seen more. I do think that we need another summer madness two to happen so that it would give battle rap a resurgence
smack needs to get the younger hungrier tier who just wana hit the stage and perform and have them battle, same way smack use to on the come up i know there young battle rappers willing to go on and give a killer performance
this one feels different the whole economy is down, the inflation, some events wasn't profitable last year battle rap will continue but way less big events
Do partnerships with betting services and start betting on battle rap it’ll bring something new to the battler rap game and make the rappers compete on a higher level
Smack said , I ain’t going in the red for nobody, That means if no money to be made off the slave ship he been exploiting, he not going to do it for the love of battle rap?!? That’s how you know he’s been a vulture ,
What needs to happen in battle rap is simple and would really shift the culture. We need battlers to TOUR cities and do battles, just like comedians or musicians etc. do them same 3 rounds Vs in 8-10 cities! Then drop a PPV with the most exclusive version of that particular card. This would give us No Chokes, Perfected Performances, and engagement with fans.
How long do you honestly believe that you can call people out of their names, threaten them and disrespect them, before the human minds demands more, than genocidal nonsense???
When Battlers were hungry and the money wasnt crazy, that was the best era in Battle Rap. 🤷🏾♂️
Well bring the stars back and drop all those corny DMV..the sponsors will return rappers...starting with ace amid
Anything free is the best 🤷🏾♂️
@@krownheightsgang7053 true...but you need your sponsors...the money isn't in URL...it's a RBE..They follow stars
@darksidefla7274 Yall Ace Amin hate has to stop. Yes, he has to get his pacing together, but he is one of the best writers in all of battle rap. Lowkey top 10. Get rid of all these cookie cutter battlers that rap like Twork.
@krownheightsgang7053 Doesn't have to be free. Just worth the money. Less battles, less card fillers, more important battles.
How could you forget about the xclusive vodca era 😩
CZcams the battles that would bring money back
When the app and caffeine came out it was the begging of the end
everything doesnt come to an end, everything changes...energy never dies
"XCLUSIVELY YOURS..." 😂😂😂
Well put Goodz. Thanks for the transparency.
skipped the xclusive vodka era, diddy circoc for sm2, gerald mccoy and athletes have sponsored battles, battle america
Surf left money left
Not true. The economy f up frfr.
Facts
The sponsor was covid money , that's lightning in a bottle. Good luck In the future cause the economy and money flow and access is different now and for the foreseeable future.
surf left, mook tried to big dawg drake and arp hangin em up
🤦🏾♂️
Yes suh I agree we waiting on the next big thing
I LIKE THIS TALK, GOODZ TALKING FACTS. HE BEING REALISTIC ON OUR "CULTURE IN BATTLE RAP"
I really like your channel Goodz.
URL fault they stuck everybody on the app it wasn't time for the app yet by doing that no one's being seen on CZcams no one can grow their brand.
but url fans cuss out everyone and say url has boat loads of money because everyone wants to see url battles so bad everyone is paying for tickets, ppvs and the app like crazy, if u let url fans talk they will say smack himself is lying and they understand the company better than smack himself and say the money is coming back,, url is the most wanted and battle rap is so loved worldwide, reality is battle rap lost millions of fans many years ago and their fan engagement all leagues combined is decreasing every year.. battle rap is not as popular as everyone WANTS it to be, fans gotta get over it.. its dying slowly
No money on youtube
CZcams views can not pay for battles it’s not enough, CZcams actually Rob’s you, but you would know your not in the business
@@SupremeSpeaking No money on the app either evidently.
@@Jundarippa let’s do some simple math… let’s say URL fan base is 1.5 million and they have their fans that are subscribed that pays the 8.95 they asking for… how much bread is that for the company per month? Than multiply that number by 12. That’s 107 Million PER YEAR where the company eats, the battle rappers eat and the fans who subscribed get the battles they paying for… literally.
The trap just slowed down…it’ll get back rolling in a minute
Facts
The vodca era and the Capone era was 🔥 🔥 🔥 battle rap was at its best IMO
The golden era
Stay positive with it, they’ll get it together .. 🙌🏿💪🏿😤
The battlers hurt themselves. A lot of the battles under caffeine was more lackluster with some good battles sprinkled in there.
Yall boys put a Big stamp on the Culture of music as a whole, keep ya headz high, we the fans aint leaving 🤝💪🏽🖤
Since surf got locked it's been dry the free to broke era was the best smh miss old smack.. timeless
Exclusiv Vodka
odd by choice clothing, cigarillos,
Waiting for that pop up shop in queens.
Everything comes to an end-goodzdaanimal
I found your analysis insightful ... youre right cycles come and go in all businesses.... Also most music genres last 20 years on average before fading out. Battle rap is at 15 years ... A few cycles from now it will have to reinvent itself or die.
Hiphop reinvented itself drastically ... the rugged street element faded out around 2000 from 1980 with the breaks etc... the middle class kids who grew up wanting to participate in hiphop controlled (2k-2020 give or take)... now for the next phases we might see sub-genres get more deep like rock.
Battle rap will always be niche so I wonder outside of leagues for different demogaphics.... how it will diversify....
Amen!!!!!
Sponsor and investors are 2 different things.
Facts! Sponsors don’t expect a return
@@EWheelsand investors want what they spent and majority of the profits 🤣🤣
@@EWheelssponsors expect to make money off ads/promotion of other products, etc.
URL went the App route
RBE KEPT BATTLE RAP LITT 💯💯
💯🐐
True. I remember it was after SM2 and battle rap was considered dead. Then it happened again every 2 years lol
Drrrrrraaaaaaakkkkkeeeee!!!
as far as a new wave, i got yall
Y’all are the money
If the app never came out and every battle dropped on CZcams battle rap would be huge
💯
Goodz you need to upgrade that TV my dawg lol
Goodz & Verb being bloggers is the most hilarious thing in the world. From being Mr marketable rapper to Mr CZcams. From Mr money talk rapper to another CZcams blogger.
Bruh if you handle business right, then CZcams Money is Good Money
Nothing wrong with a pivot
💎
The only big sponsor was caffeine when they left the money left and I ain’t coming back so good and a lot of nothing😂
FACTS
Whoever can get Brizz on stage to battle will own 2024.... All other things are possible.... Even if the artist come together and create thier own collective league is easy....
Why brizz is trolling he wanna be on the scene and not battle
.
But is the money really gone? Or are we all falling for the okie doke 🤔
Beasley: “Smack go in front the camera an tell them the moneys gone so they’ll stop asking for what they deserve”
*🤣😂😂🤣 This seems like something they would do.*
EXCLUSIVE VODKA
Smack pulled a it’s mine all mine and dipped
Good I appreciate 🙏 this breakdown. Top tiers Battle rappers HAVE TO have another lane of income. Their some Battle rappers who simply rely on only one income
It literally took Goodz 13:00 mins to say "BR needs another big investor" at the 4:00 min mark 😆 Goodz aka THE SLOWEST EXPLAINER IN BR. Leave the blogger game alone bro, you literally say A BUNCH OF NOTHING or things we ALR KNOW.
Stop hatin and go watch somebody else then
If hating was a person it’ll be you 😂. You sat there and watched the whole video tho
I’ve been watching his vids at 1.5 speed minimum 😂
@@jayiix💯FACTS ! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😂
@@Chicago_23kid 😂😂😂 you gotta be a young bull my fault g complain away lmaoooo
Brizz could have brought some energy back but he blew it with that twerk appearance
*Quit complaining. Y’all kept asking for his return, when it wasn’t needed.*
Brizz came back?
What up funny goodz
I wonder if url can go public and have the fans buy shares of the company.
Tell em if da money gone den battlin iz gone, watch em start finding money 😂😂
Exclusive Vodka
It's not even just about "taking the money and putting it into something else." It's about taking YOUR NAME and making something of it. That was the con of the rappers being on the app instead of CZcams.
Yep...exactly!!!
Also AR or VR battles, where you can battle anybody anywhere in any language.
A mega card is needed right now.
Lux vs DNA
Goodz vs Bigg K
Brizz vs Cal
Eazy vs Roc
Swamp vs Verb
Mook vs Arsonal
Jaz vs Ms. Fit
nobody wants to see Lux battle DNA, Brizz vs Cal already happened at Summer madness 6, swamp is trash, ms fit hasnt battled in ages, he wont do good.
Mook vs Arsonal is the only battle that makes sense, i dont think it will happen because Mook been ducking arsonal for years.
Sounds expensive....see what I did there?
Honestly, battle rap has no business on Caffeine. Battle rappers didn't have no business making that kind of money when they are unprofessional asf. Honestly, the cap amount on paying a battle rapper, should be $25,000. Anything over that, and they need to find a way into the industry. Smack blew up battle rap as soon as he broke the bank and gave Mook $50,000. 😂😂😂
They are just sad they blew all the money. Imagine making all that money and not investing a dime
If you don't decide to take a payout there is somebody that is lurking willing to take it to make that money , sometimes u have to put your ego in check and say look we.gonna get it at all means necessary
THE PROBLEM IS TSU SURF IS MISSING LETS JUST BE HONEST
SM2 was battle rap at its peak.
My guy!!!!!!
ABA had its own league, merged with the NBA, XFL merged with UFL, Sprint and T-Mobile merger, LIV golf merged with PGA, there’s no reason RBE can’t merge leagues with URL to create something bigger and more sustainable for battle rap. We’re stronger together than divided, the sponsors will continue to come and go because the leagues are too divided. Eazy, K shine, bigg K some of battle raps biggest can’t battle on a certain stage loses revenue. If Lebron, Curry and joker don’t play in the NBA it loses the NBA money, stop restricting battlers to unrealistic contracts for a league that can’t sustain enough revenue to keep its talent Happy 🤷🏿♂️. We’re stronger together than divided seems simple enough. Merge then sign a multimillion dollar Netflix deal, so battle rap can be streamed globally. Gotta be a market for that 🤷🏿♂️
I don’t think that’s what smack was saying I think his words got taken out of context, I think he speaking purely in terms of profit after funding the event, not that there would not be money in battle rap nomore
@archietech5495 what Smack means is that the URL IS TAKING LOSSES AFTER BATTLE RAP EVENTS.
Example : if they dished out 100k to battle rappers for an event , after tickets sales and ppv sales they only made back 70k .. that’s a 30k loss to the URL. I think most battle rappers will take a pay cut , being that some may not have any thing going on outside of battle rap
@@cornerstorescoff I agree plus some of them really love what they do
I agree with you. He is just saying the money is coming in “Slow” right now and won’t bounce back as high as it has ever done before. Smack knows the game cold.
I agree with you. He is just saying the money is coming in “Slow” right now and won’t bounce back as high as it has ever done before. Smack knows the game cold.
Bro we wld rather see Mook vs ill will we tired of dat wild n out character
Cards gone have to go back to 3 to 4 battle cards till sponsors come back around
by the time the bag drops .. it might be to late for some of those "big battles" to stay "big battles"
So Goodz let me ask you think you should do a blog on buddy who left because he wanted CZcams drops. Was he wrong or right now because a lot of people was saying he wrong at first
Facts, daylight was smart
Let’s goooo 🫡
What's G🔥🔥DIE-
Money ain't coming back, cuz it's all & SMACK & BEASLEY banks accounts, & they ain't getting up off it 😂😂😂
Giv me a % , Battle rap should go to fx , or any of them up and coming channels that do reality shows , and like seeing drama , Get that bag from them
Is it too late for a Rbe & url joint event ?
Exclusiv Vodka you missed that one Goodz
@Goodz Da Animal thehad Exclusiv Vodka
X-Clusiv Vodka was a sponsor a couple of years ago too I think. 🍸
TBH battle been done there is only a few battles left to see anyway.
I understand not taking less, but I also wonder if taking less would help build momentum just by having more battles and overall exposure.
Goodz I think that battle rap needs to reinvent Itself meaning bigger battles would have to happen and also those who drive the culture forward needs to be seen more. I do think that we need another summer madness two to happen so that it would give battle rap a resurgence
👍👍
He didn’t say it dried up! He was saying he not recouping what he put out! That what’s not coming back! The money he pays out!
Drop the battles on YT, not much but more people would watch
Bro slick talk my A more like slow talk God 😂😂😅
Shyt bout to look shakey out here im crying...
" all u make is battle rap money" ( Goodz)
I'm not sure if this has happened already and it didn't succeed but have the top battle wrappers offer to come together to start their own league?
smack needs to get the younger hungrier tier who just wana hit the stage and perform and have them battle, same way smack use to on the come up i know there young battle rappers willing to go on and give a killer performance
Sponsorship is open but are they gonna make the return on there investment in this state of battle rap
this one feels different
the whole economy is down, the inflation, some events wasn't profitable last year
battle rap will continue but way less big events
Ask Smack to release the financials and then I will believe him. My bad…ax Smack to release the financials
What is everyone who battle rap in the industry gonna do in response to the industry losing money?
It ain’t that the battles can’t happen. Battlers gotta put greed aside
The money obviously coming back. Look at smack jewelry 😂😂😂. He really means, keep being cheap labor so he can get richer 😂😂😂
Do partnerships with betting services and start betting on battle rap it’ll bring something new to the battler rap game and make the rappers compete on a higher level
Great idea, very unique perspective. Well done, that could really fix things for everyone involved, including the fans.
Smack said , I ain’t going in the red for nobody, That means if no money to be made off the slave ship he been exploiting, he not going to do it for the love of battle rap?!? That’s how you know he’s been a vulture ,
I think it’s a way to get rid of the Vets without saying it. They will still be able to hold small events with Rookies
Goods house look old as hell. Liquors under the Tv, old ass couch spread lol. Remind me of my uncle Book house.
COVID hit and the battlers got chains and cars 😭😩
What needs to happen in battle rap is simple and would really shift the culture. We need battlers to TOUR cities and do battles, just like comedians or musicians etc. do them same 3 rounds Vs in 8-10 cities! Then drop a PPV with the most exclusive version of that particular card. This would give us No Chokes, Perfected Performances, and engagement with fans.
Smack should just give yall a percentage of what your battle makes off views
How long do you honestly believe that you can call people out of their names, threaten them and disrespect them, before the human minds demands more, than genocidal nonsense???
Slick Talk God!!!! 🫡
once yall let them damn pilgrims infiltrate battlerap....its was over...
YOUNG BUL GOODZ RIGHT
The first URL sponsor I believe was “EXCLUSIVE VODKA”.
No, Ciroc thru Diddy came before Exclusiv Vodka
Teddy Grizzle or whatever.... remember that arizona event?
And that Nikiya guy out of Boston i think it was.... KOTD big sponsor
Y’all should invested like chamillionair
Even earlier remember Swagg