Thank you for making this video. After 3 nasal surgeries, the first was a septoplasty and then a nose reshaping all starting about 3 years ago. After the second reshaping procedure in 2022, nasal congestion was more and more evident in my left nostril nasal passage, and the right was always problem free. My doctor told me the congestion was due to allergies but after test by an allergist, no allergies were found. I can only hope now that my doctor will do a turbinectomy on me. Most Sincerely, Bill M.. in Uncasville, CT
There are various types of turbinate reduction surgeries but the one you discussed here in a very simple language is by far the best method in my opinion too coz its easy and don't require high degree of surgical skill . Thanks for your valuable Otolaryngology videos for guys like us practicing in this field.👍👍
Had my Septoplasty and Turbinate reduction done yesterday.. I have no pain and slight swelling. The worst part has been the stuffiness and cleaning up the discharge.(like you have with a sinus infection) I have the splints in, no discomfort or pain..Today I feel fine, still dripping a little.. For the best success and lowest risk of ENS/exterior membrane damage to the Turbinates have the microdebrider procedure done, the cauterize/radiowave methods have a history of issues (have a complete understanding of each method)...I don't regret having it done..Do your research on the Surgeon and the way they reduce the Turbinates and you'll have success ..:)
Would be helpful to also include in your video: possible outfracture of turbinate. My MD did not explain this to me prior to procedure and I would have gladly taken the optional Valium mentioned in pre-procedure handout if I had known.
Okay, I am going to copy and paste this - I would say a positive comment - to a couple of related videos the same as others are copy-pasting the comments about ENS as I feel like only negative stories are being spread. Before my radio-frequency inferior turbinate reduction, I was freaking out about it because I would read all the negative comments about the ENS and how these people are suicidal. Well, I was aware of this risk, but still, I went through this, because the blockage of my nose, especially the left nostril, was so bad, that I had headaches, dry eyes, could not have a good night's sleep..., basically I had constantly less energy and did not use my full physical and psychical potential. Yes, it can affect your life tremendously when you are not able to breathe freely for a long time. Anyways, before the surgery, I visited more doctors to have more information about the risks and potential ENS and they said that they could not disprove this, but they also said that in my case the risk was minimal as I would have only local anesthesia and the least invading technique. So here I am writing this comment, I am exactly one day after the inferior turbinate reduction done with the radiofrequency method, in the end, only the left nostril as my right side was okay. The procedure was not comfortable but for me less painful than visiting a dentist. I felt pressure, vibration, resonance, and heat, but it was manageable. After I got home, I removed the nose tampon from the left nostril and I knew right away that I was breathing through, but I did not feel the air going through the left nostril because it was still anesthetized from the tampon. There was a bit of blood, mucous, but after about the next two hours, I realized how much-left nose was blocked. I was finally breathing and I felt it, the air and you cannot imagine such relief. The nostril is still pretty sensitive though, so you must listen to what the doctor says, like no much blowing your nose for first days, no extreme temperature changes (no hot shower...), no high physical activity the first week, etc. This is my experience. It ended up well and I want to encourage you, that if you suffer a lot, it is probably worth taking the risk. My advice: before your surgery, make sure the doctor is experienced with this and talk to him about the complications he had experience with other patients. Talk to him that you would like to have the least invading method performed to minimize the risks. And those who are interested, the RF machine used for my surgery was The CURIS® 4 MHz radiofrequency generator, you can google it if you want. Wish you good health and a lot of strength to the individuals whose surgery did not end up as expected.
@@jurajland Glad you’re feeling well , i need this turbinate reduction surgery my brain is constantly fatigued by lack of oxygen, these ENS comments are scary but im already in a bad shape , i’ll take the risk .
To treat my OSA, I had this procedure done earlier today, and I can tell you it's not really pleasant. But the doctor was so nice to keep my calm all through out the procedure. Overall, the procedure lasted about an hour because the doctor had to make sure I was not bleeding before letting me go. The discomfort (or pain for me) was really when the doctor inserted those cotton strips inside my nasal cavity to absorb the blood that's bursting inside my nasal wall. Anyway, I feel really good now that I can breathe more clearly. The doctor set my expectations that it could congest for a few days as the cavities become swollen. But I'm really looking forward to having a clear breathing moving forward. Next stop: Tonsillectomy. Wish me luck! 😊
honestly, as if nothing happened. I did not see any improvement whatsoever. I feel like the doctor and his team were just after my health card insurance. But this same doctor also did my tonsillectomy which was a relief since my OSA has improved a lot (in a good way). But the turbinoplasty for me was not that effective. All that pain I had to go through was for nothing. haha. @@kiky.mp4
He didnt mentions the risks of empty nose syndrome with any turbinate reduction method..and i know for a fact he knows about the ens risks.its essential to know about ens risks because ens causes immense constant suffering.i know because i have it.
Paul Orekhov I think patients should have the right to know all the risks of surgery. Did you know the risk of contracting hiv is one in a two hundred if the person is hiv positive? The question is: would you risk it?
Paul Orekhov could not agree more. Reading too much about it will convince you that you have one because really I don’t get the symptoms as well. Nasel abstraction and feeling nose wide open. Can’t sense air but feel they breath too much. It seems that people do have certain degree of it and all say ENS. It is real though and can happen when they take too much of turbinate. They also can regrow by getting too much allergies. Having too much nasel spray can get you ENS because it destroys the turbinate like killing it. Also I am a big huge believer everything in the body can heal it self as long as you give it blood and oxygen. Bone regrow, skin fix itself, hair grows, liver also grow. Even if something happens your body can heal it self by having a great mindset. There are people around the world who lost their nose completely they are happy disabled they know but happy.
@@evilspirit724 i suffered awfull ens symptoms the day after my inferior turbinate reduction and septoplasty i didnt know anything about emptynosesyndrome untill about 2 or 3 years after .so your comment dosnt apply to me then.
just had a turbinate reduction today, thank you for clearing things up!! i was so confused i remember them saying go up to five and i was out, i had no clue!
Very interesting and educational watch. I was told by a specialist that I have too much mucus lining at the back of my nose, so I assume this meant the mucus lining covering the turbinates ? He never said anything about the turbinates themselves, but only commented on the excessive lining. Is it possible to have the lining removed ?
i got Empty nose syndrome and severe nasal nerve pain from this exact method!!!! from RAVOR CURIS radiofrequency to turbinates and septoplasty. THE ENT SAID IT WAS TOTALLY SAFE.
This is the second video under which I see this exact same comment from you. LOL. The other video was cold knife technique and you stated the same. Wtf man? Do you maybe have Munchausen's syndrome?
@@trendyphilippines155 these ENS commenters never seen to respond to followup questions. Which means they don't seem to actually care about helping the people they're claiming to want to make aware of ENS. I don't know what their purpose is, but it doesn't seem pure to me... atleast as of right now...
Find the root cause of your symptoms. Do everything possible to avoid these types of surgeries. They are not science based and marketed to patients who typically have no clue how important turbinates are to the respiratory system and nervous system. Ents are not taught about the severe long term damages that can be caused from such unnecessary surgeries.
I had the radio frequency turbinate reduction procedure done about 10yrs ago. No ENS but it also did NOTHING to resolve my chronic congestion. afrin works wonders which means the problem is swollen sinus tissue and not a bony obstruction. I should have done the micro debrider method.
Any surgical method no matter how less invasive can cause serious long-term injury. 99% of turbinate reductions are due to inflammation. This is not a life threatening reason for surgery. Treat the cause. Don't fall for this scam procedure that can lead to severe injuries.
@@KhalKhtri That's the tricky part. I have had nasal obstruction since i was a kid. I used various antibiotics, antihistamines and steroid sprays. I got allergy blood tests. I used saline rinses. CT scan showed no sinusitis. I still can't find any reason.
It's sad that even after decades of patients globally demanding justice, only a few drs will have the fortitude to say that even conservative turbinate procedures can cause permanent injury to an essential organ. What a backwards way to think that disturbing a complex organ solely because it becomes inflamed is marketed to overly confiding patients. What is even more disturbing is how patients are heavily screened physically & mentally prior to surgery, then when a negative outcome occurs they are gaslit and coerced into thinking that it is "psychological". Sociopathic behavior would best describe this lack of accountability from Drs that continue to ignore the countless amount of people harmed by these unscientific procedures.
i got Empty nose syndrome and severe nasal nerve pain from this exact method!!!! from RAVOR CURIS radiofrequency to turbinates and septoplasty and fess THE ENT SAID IT WAS TOTALLY SAFE. Now ents cant help me at all. There are 1000s of people I know with empty nose syndrome And many more i dont know. Be very careful
Hey, I've read some recent medical publications that have found ways to successfully reduce the problems of patients with ENS by putting in an artificial turbinate. Might want to look into it as there may be help on the way!
I have read that using creams to make your tissue swell can help some, it fills in the area more and allows for better airflow, worth a shot. Also moving to a very humid climate.
Very true, turbinates are heavily disregarded and not given the respect amongst ENTs/medical professionals. They are not taught completely how intricate and important these organs are to the nervous system, respiratory health, and other organ systems that are impacted once something goes wrong. It could happen with even the most "safest" method. Post surgical turbinate injury can happen with even the most seasoned ENT. Don't fall for the lies, marketing scare tactics, and delusional testimonials.
@@evelynthai4776 I'm asking that, because when I tilt my chin up and look up my nose, I can see some cartilage, like a little "hill" of flesh taking up half of inside opening of my nasal cavity . So I have only 50 % of airflow compared to the other side. So the outer side of my nose Is slightly convex, like something is raising the area. On the side of my nose that is non blocked, it is concave. So, If I had turbinate surgery on the blocked (convex) side, I would think that raised area would lower and become concave like my normal side.
@@danbigboss6484 It reduced the turbinates...I need to keep taking steroid as the surgeon said I have rhinitis.. so producing too much mucous. But 70 to 80% better than before I think! I can fall asleep much easier...before my sleep was bad!
I had the microdebrider after an ebike rider who ran into my back at high speed while I was walking on the footpath in the UK and he ran away the criminal monster. I had my nasal septa fractured as I fall on my face, fracture of my left hand and right knee along with whiplashII. so I was kept for a long waiting which caused the issue of inferior turbinate hypertrophy and no one of the ENT I saw stated that until I started searching myself. The issue now, I still have them enlarged and its alternating and I cant breathe properly and feel suffocating, one of the ENT suggested another operation stating its another microdebrider though I don't get what this will do will do if the first didn't. I feel no one understands the struggle and the suffering I am going through. My nose and my hand is not the same anymore and who pays the price for this inconsiderate moron unlawful act.
@@juanpisld2224 get yourself scheduled for surgery asap. In the meantime, in those instances when it's really unbearable, you can use afrin or a similar spray. The more you can resist and avoid its usage, the better, since over time it will worsen the swelling. I try to use it max 3/4 nights in a row, then a pause of at least 7-10 days
@@GABRIX98 oh I understand, do you know what type of technique they are going to use? Because I heard some are most probable to cause ENS and others don’t, but honestly I just want the least invasive technique and just let it be, because I also can’t stand having a blocked nose every night to sleep. And yeah using nasal spray for the rest of my life is also a big no as well so…
Vivear destroyed my sinus!! Don't do it!! My doctor used them on my swollen turbinates!!! And after two years I needed surgery and he couldn't do much because of all the scar tissue Vivear did!! Totally destroyed me!! And I can't do anything but not suffer!!
The worst part is that Ents will gaslight injured patients and continue to believe their own lies. Most have no idea how important the nose is beyond smell.
Turbinate reduction by any method can cause empty nose syndrome and its an awfull condition to suffer 24/7.it changes your life for the worsed .ents know about ens but most dont mention ens as a risk on these utube videos or tell you when you meet them in person.even if its a conservative turbinate reduction.i made the biggest mistake of my life having my inferior turbinates reduced with the bipolar diathermy and smd debrider.i have suffered with ens for 10 years now never had 1 good day without suffering .mines where reduced about 30 % last ent i saw told me this and looks about 30%on my ct scan aswell.the ent in this video is not my surgeon but he knows about ens.but is refusing to mention ens.ens is not rare that is a fact
@@steve_ensSo sorry, I dont know if u believe in God but if doctors haven't done nothing for u God can heal u from that, if u want you can go to Robert Clancy you tube channel he is a Pastor write him an email explain your situation to him he will pray for you. No one needs to suffer like this.
This shouldn't be a procedure at all, turbinates are not meant to be messed with they tell the brain that you're sleeping and humidify the nose. ENS is also a possibility as many here.have stated as well.
Turbinates should never be touched unless there is something life threatening like a tumor or cancer. They are the first line of defense as far as the respiratory system. Turbinates surface and internally has vital nerves that signal to the brain that you are breathing. Once these nerves and tissues become damaged (even with conservative methods) it is irreversible with severe degenerative health consequences.
The turbinate is a sensor. A sensor that God made and cant be human replicated. If a sensor in your car fails a light goes off. In our head the "light" going off is the symptoms of discomfort. That doesnt mean you just eliminate the sensor! You figure out what is wrong to fix the root of the problem! Edit: in a car you can put in a new sensor. The turbinate is God made you cant just put a new one in. The cardiovascular and nervous systems were designed to work in harmony. The turbinate is part of that! It is the link between them! You dont want to mess with that! Sorry I know your paycheck is in jeapordy but so are people's lives!
Then how can anyone cure their swollen turbinates? I’ve had it for 9 months now since I got covid. I hate to get surgery but I have tried many sprays many medications so surgery is next for me.
@@nancyherrera2792 Exactly, I have been congested on both sides for 9mos now with very little relief. Do all the sprays/pills and the only help is Afrin and Sudafed but we all know they are not perm options. It is easy for people to lecture us all on ENS but we already suffer daily, so what options do we have. I am pondering reducing my turbinates so I can live a better life, poor sleep and work are hard, its exhausting being congested daily.
@Jo A Not sure, obviously swelling is the main cause, maybe they can make a pill or spray that targets this only to eliminate the swelling, without rebound issues. Seems like they could invest more money into it but see this as non important.
Thank you for making this video. After 3 nasal surgeries, the first was a septoplasty and then a nose reshaping all starting about 3 years ago. After the second reshaping procedure in 2022, nasal congestion was more and more evident in my left nostril nasal passage, and the right was always problem free. My doctor told me the congestion was due to allergies but after test by an allergist, no allergies were found. I can only hope now that my doctor will do a turbinectomy on me. Most Sincerely, Bill M.. in Uncasville, CT
There are various types of turbinate reduction surgeries but the one you discussed here in a very simple language is by far the best method in my opinion too coz its easy and don't require high degree of surgical skill . Thanks for your valuable Otolaryngology videos for guys like us practicing in this field.👍👍
Had my Septoplasty and Turbinate reduction done yesterday.. I have no pain and slight swelling. The worst part has been the stuffiness and cleaning up the discharge.(like you have with a sinus infection) I have the splints in, no discomfort or pain..Today I feel fine, still dripping a little.. For the best success and lowest risk of ENS/exterior membrane damage to the Turbinates have the microdebrider procedure done, the cauterize/radiowave methods have a history of issues (have a complete understanding of each method)...I don't regret having it done..Do your research on the Surgeon and the way they reduce the Turbinates and you'll have success ..:)
What's the microdebrider method?
Had mine done a few months ago and had the retention cyst done this past Monday as yesterday was my Birthday so spent that recovering!!
Would be helpful to also include in your video: possible outfracture of turbinate. My MD did not explain this to me prior to procedure and I would have gladly taken the optional Valium mentioned in pre-procedure handout if I had known.
Okay, I am going to copy and paste this - I would say a positive comment - to a couple of related videos the same as others are copy-pasting the comments about ENS as I feel like only negative stories are being spread. Before my radio-frequency inferior turbinate reduction, I was freaking out about it because I would read all the negative comments about the ENS and how these people are suicidal. Well, I was aware of this risk, but still, I went through this, because the blockage of my nose, especially the left nostril, was so bad, that I had headaches, dry eyes, could not have a good night's sleep..., basically I had constantly less energy and did not use my full physical and psychical potential. Yes, it can affect your life tremendously when you are not able to breathe freely for a long time. Anyways, before the surgery, I visited more doctors to have more information about the risks and potential ENS and they said that they could not disprove this, but they also said that in my case the risk was minimal as I would have only local anesthesia and the least invading technique. So here I am writing this comment, I am exactly one day after the inferior turbinate reduction done with the radiofrequency method, in the end, only the left nostril as my right side was okay. The procedure was not comfortable but for me less painful than visiting a dentist. I felt pressure, vibration, resonance, and heat, but it was manageable. After I got home, I removed the nose tampon from the left nostril and I knew right away that I was breathing through, but I did not feel the air going through the left nostril because it was still anesthetized from the tampon. There was a bit of blood, mucous, but after about the next two hours, I realized how much-left nose was blocked. I was finally breathing and I felt it, the air and you cannot imagine such relief. The nostril is still pretty sensitive though, so you must listen to what the doctor says, like no much blowing your nose for first days, no extreme temperature changes (no hot shower...), no high physical activity the first week, etc. This is my experience. It ended up well and I want to encourage you, that if you suffer a lot, it is probably worth taking the risk. My advice: before your surgery, make sure the doctor is experienced with this and talk to him about the complications he had experience with other patients. Talk to him that you would like to have the least invading method performed to minimize the risks. And those who are interested, the RF machine used for my surgery was The CURIS® 4 MHz radiofrequency generator, you can google it if you want. Wish you good health and a lot of strength to the individuals whose surgery did not end up as expected.
H0w are u now hav to do it an I am so scared
Still good bro?
@@samanthadattoo428 no worries, just find a good doctor :)
@@keyano93 hey, I am fine, if you pay attention to your lifestyle, enough rest and good diet, everything will be fine :)
@@jurajland Glad you’re feeling well , i need this turbinate reduction surgery my brain is constantly fatigued by lack of oxygen, these ENS comments are scary but im already in a bad shape , i’ll take the risk .
To treat my OSA, I had this procedure done earlier today, and I can tell you it's not really pleasant. But the doctor was so nice to keep my calm all through out the procedure. Overall, the procedure lasted about an hour because the doctor had to make sure I was not bleeding before letting me go. The discomfort (or pain for me) was really when the doctor inserted those cotton strips inside my nasal cavity to absorb the blood that's bursting inside my nasal wall. Anyway, I feel really good now that I can breathe more clearly. The doctor set my expectations that it could congest for a few days as the cavities become swollen. But I'm really looking forward to having a clear breathing moving forward. Next stop: Tonsillectomy. Wish me luck! 😊
Hlo how are you now...doing good now??? Have you cured your osa??
how are you now 😭
honestly, as if nothing happened. I did not see any improvement whatsoever. I feel like the doctor and his team were just after my health card insurance. But this same doctor also did my tonsillectomy which was a relief since my OSA has improved a lot (in a good way). But the turbinoplasty for me was not that effective. All that pain I had to go through was for nothing. haha. @@kiky.mp4
He didnt mentions the risks of empty nose syndrome with any turbinate reduction method..and i know for a fact he knows about the ens risks.its essential to know about ens risks because ens causes immense constant suffering.i know because i have it.
Paul Orekhov it’s not that rare
Paul Orekhov I think patients should have the right to know all the risks of surgery. Did you know the risk of contracting hiv is one in a two hundred if the person is hiv positive? The question is: would you risk it?
With this type of reduction, it's very rare. What you're describing happens more often when bone is actually removed.
Paul Orekhov could not agree more. Reading too much about it will convince you that you have one because really I don’t get the symptoms as well. Nasel abstraction and feeling nose wide open. Can’t sense air but feel they breath too much. It seems that people do have certain degree of it and all say ENS. It is real though and can happen when they take too much of turbinate. They also can regrow by getting too much allergies. Having too much nasel spray can get you ENS because it destroys the turbinate like killing it. Also I am a big huge believer everything in the body can heal it self as long as you give it blood and oxygen. Bone regrow, skin fix itself, hair grows, liver also grow. Even if something happens your body can heal it self by having a great mindset. There are people around the world who lost their nose completely they are happy disabled they know but happy.
@@evilspirit724 i suffered awfull ens symptoms the day after my inferior turbinate reduction and septoplasty i didnt know anything about emptynosesyndrome untill about 2 or 3 years after .so your comment dosnt apply to me then.
just had a turbinate reduction today, thank you for clearing things up!! i was so confused i remember them saying go up to five and i was out, i had no clue!
How ah your breathing now am on 3 weeks how long did it take for your breathing to come bk
How are you now?
@@zariadattoo6300 how are you now?
How are you now?
@pvssybac0n , how are you now did the surgery was a success or not ??
Very interesting and educational watch. I was told by a specialist that I have too much mucus lining at the back of my nose, so I assume this meant the mucus lining covering the turbinates ? He never said anything about the turbinates themselves, but only commented on the excessive lining. Is it possible to have the lining removed ?
Did he recommend you get an in office procedure?
i got Empty nose syndrome and severe nasal nerve pain from this exact method!!!! from RAVOR CURIS radiofrequency to turbinates and septoplasty. THE ENT SAID IT WAS TOTALLY SAFE.
Omg. Stay strong. I've heard glycerin and saline water in a humidifier can help.
He meant to say his paycheck was safely deposited in his bank account so shut up and take the treatment.
This is the second video under which I see this exact same comment from you. LOL. The other video was cold knife technique and you stated the same. Wtf man? Do you maybe have Munchausen's syndrome?
Hi what are the symptoms of nerve damage? I got polyp surgery 5 months ago and now I have chronic dryness left sided & bad pain
@@trendyphilippines155 these ENS commenters never seen to respond to followup questions. Which means they don't seem to actually care about helping the people they're claiming to want to make aware of ENS. I don't know what their purpose is, but it doesn't seem pure to me... atleast as of right now...
I need this so bad. I can’t breath and I didn’t know this was a possibility. 😢
Find the root cause of your symptoms. Do everything possible to avoid these types of surgeries. They are not science based and marketed to patients who typically have no clue how important turbinates are to the respiratory system and nervous system. Ents are not taught about the severe long term damages that can be caused from such unnecessary surgeries.
@@KhalKhtriwhy I am seeing you every comment also in the other video’s comment section :)
@@unknownplayer7190because he cares.
I had the radio frequency turbinate reduction procedure done about 10yrs ago. No ENS but it also did NOTHING to resolve my chronic congestion. afrin works wonders which means the problem is swollen sinus tissue and not a bony obstruction. I should have done the micro debrider method.
did your allergy, nose watering reduced after radio frequency reduce?
@@NmAbedin no, not at all. I experienced no improvement from the procedure.
Any surgical method no matter how less invasive can cause serious long-term injury. 99% of turbinate reductions are due to inflammation. This is not a life threatening reason for surgery. Treat the cause. Don't fall for this scam procedure that can lead to severe injuries.
@@nickarrigo7493 so what will you do from now on ? did you will choose a surgery ?
@@KhalKhtri That's the tricky part. I have had nasal obstruction since i was a kid. I used various antibiotics, antihistamines and steroid sprays. I got allergy blood tests. I used saline rinses. CT scan showed no sinusitis. I still can't find any reason.
What’s is the cost of a procedure like this?
i got Empty nose syndrome from radiofrequency to turbinates
It's sad that even after decades of patients globally demanding justice, only a few drs will have the fortitude to say that even conservative turbinate procedures can cause permanent injury to an essential organ.
What a backwards way to think that disturbing a complex organ solely because it becomes inflamed is marketed to overly confiding patients.
What is even more disturbing is how patients are heavily screened physically & mentally prior to surgery, then when a negative outcome occurs they are gaslit and coerced into thinking that it is "psychological".
Sociopathic behavior would best describe this lack of accountability from Drs that continue to ignore the countless amount of people harmed by these unscientific procedures.
Coblation or ablation? Supposedly ablation is the one to get.
@@jestes7 Hi, do you know what the difference is between these two procedures?
@@Lander76 Supposedly ablation uses a lot less heat, so doesn't effect the nerves as much. I haven't looked into it a ton though.
@@jestes7 ok thanks!
i got Empty nose syndrome and severe nasal nerve pain from this exact method!!!! from RAVOR CURIS radiofrequency to turbinates and septoplasty and fess
THE ENT SAID IT WAS TOTALLY SAFE.
Now ents cant help me at all.
There are 1000s of people I know with empty nose syndrome
And many more i dont know. Be very careful
Hey, I've read some recent medical publications that have found ways to successfully reduce the problems of patients with ENS by putting in an artificial turbinate. Might want to look into it as there may be help on the way!
@@sillysyriac8925 doesn't help
I have read that using creams to make your tissue swell can help some, it fills in the area more and allows for better airflow, worth a shot. Also moving to a very humid climate.
do you think continously commenting your N=1 is helpful?
@@jimherbst9466they don't seem pure in their motives, tbh. I don't know what they're trying to achieve, but it honestly smells fishy....
Hey Doc, where is your Clinic at?
Is pyriform turbinoplasty likely to cause empty nose syndrome?
Does it hurts?
do you talk to your patients of the risk of empty nose syndrome
Please where I can find you?
Dont you know what a google search is ? come on
Don’t let any surgeon touch your turbinates . The nerves in the sinus get damaged and cause all sorts of neurological problems.
@Linda Necessary what will do a person with air conduit blocked then ? what did you suggest ?
Very true, turbinates are heavily disregarded and not given the respect amongst ENTs/medical professionals. They are not taught completely how intricate and important these organs are to the nervous system, respiratory health, and other organ systems that are impacted once something goes wrong. It could happen with even the most "safest" method. Post surgical turbinate injury can happen with even the most seasoned ENT. Don't fall for the lies, marketing scare tactics, and delusional testimonials.
@@danbigboss6484Look up Dr. Berg or Dr. Mandell. They have tons of natural root cause methods to treat sinus issues and overall health conditions.
Always ask to preserve my sense of smell and have it done SUBMUCOSAL
I need the surgery desperately but don’t want to be accidentally given open nose syndrome
Not possible with radiofrequency. Have done it 4 times now, every 12 years
@@eintroll8792 Is there no risk of the nerve fibers that sense air flow being damaged from the heat of the probes?
Does turbinate reduction change the shape of the nose?
No! Dig in ur nose for booger. Voila those are your turbinates!
@@evelynthai4776 I'm asking that, because when I tilt my chin up and look up my nose, I can see some cartilage, like a little "hill" of flesh taking up half of inside opening of my nasal cavity . So I have only 50 % of airflow compared to the other side. So the outer side of my nose Is slightly convex, like something is raising the area. On the side of my nose that is non blocked, it is concave. So, If I had turbinate surgery on the blocked (convex) side, I would think that raised area would lower and become concave like my normal side.
When performed without other procedures, it doesn’t, as the turbinates are structures inside the nose
This seems like a painful recovery process.. Radiofrequency Ablation technique should be better for the patient I think... No??? Any thoughts???
Yeah it is , it dehydrates the soft tissue there’s no burning which makes it quicker to resolve:
If doctor is not experienced, RFA will do the same damage.
Having a partial excision of inferior turbinate this week,cutting in to them I think ,not a heat probe treatment!
surgery sucess or not ?
@@danbigboss6484 It reduced the turbinates...I need to keep taking steroid as the surgeon said I have rhinitis.. so producing too much mucous.
But 70 to 80% better than before I think!
I can fall asleep much easier...before my sleep was bad!
@@borderlord so worth it?
@@borderlordHow is your breathing now? And Do you feel a cold sensation when breathing 1 month after surgery?
@@muhammadamsari4082 Pretty good...still have slight deviated septum and rhinitus so not perfect but alot better than before surgery!
I love this dr
I had the microdebrider after an ebike rider who ran into my back at high speed while I was walking on the footpath in the UK and he ran away the criminal monster. I had my nasal septa fractured as I fall on my face, fracture of my left hand and right knee along with whiplashII. so I was kept for a long waiting which caused the issue of inferior turbinate hypertrophy and no one of the ENT I saw stated that until I started searching myself. The issue now, I still have them enlarged and its alternating and I cant breathe properly and feel suffocating, one of the ENT suggested another operation stating its another microdebrider though I don't get what this will do will do if the first didn't. I feel no one understands the struggle and the suffering I am going through. My nose and my hand is not the same anymore and who pays the price for this inconsiderate moron unlawful act.
Do the turbinates need to be swollen the day of the surgery? What if mine are of normal size during the day and only swell up at night ?
The same happens to me… do you know any solution?
@@juanpisld2224 get yourself scheduled for surgery asap. In the meantime, in those instances when it's really unbearable, you can use afrin or a similar spray. The more you can resist and avoid its usage, the better, since over time it will worsen the swelling. I try to use it max 3/4 nights in a row, then a pause of at least 7-10 days
@@GABRIX98 did you get surgery?
@@juanpisld2224 Not yet, here in Italy the waiting lists are endless, I hope to get it by the end of 2023
@@GABRIX98 oh I understand, do you know what type of technique they are going to use? Because I heard some are most probable to cause ENS and others don’t, but honestly I just want the least invasive technique and just let it be, because I also can’t stand having a blocked nose every night to sleep. And yeah using nasal spray for the rest of my life is also a big no as well so…
Vivear destroyed my sinus!! Don't do it!! My doctor used them on my swollen turbinates!!! And after two years I needed surgery and he couldn't do much because of all the scar tissue Vivear did!! Totally destroyed me!! And I can't do anything but not suffer!!
The worst part is that Ents will gaslight injured patients and continue to believe their own lies. Most have no idea how important the nose is beyond smell.
Had this done and no ENS for me. The procedure was not fun though lol
ENS can show up years later from this. You’re not out of the woods
you may get ens years after surgery. old people get atrophic rhinitis which is like ens anwway
Did u have Radio-frequency ablation. Did the doctor use endoscope during procedure?
Turbinate reduction by any method can cause empty nose syndrome and its an awfull condition to suffer 24/7.it changes your life for the worsed .ents know about ens but most dont mention ens as a risk on these utube videos or tell you when you meet them in person.even if its a conservative turbinate reduction.i made the biggest mistake of my life having my inferior turbinates reduced with the bipolar diathermy and smd debrider.i have suffered with ens for 10 years now never had 1 good day without suffering .mines where reduced about 30 % last ent i saw told me this and looks about 30%on my ct scan aswell.the ent in this video is not my surgeon but he knows about ens.but is refusing to mention ens.ens is not rare that is a fact
How long after did you get ems after surgery?
@@user-cj4sq6pb1c the day after my inferior turbinate reduction and septoplasty
@@steve_ens Sorry to hear that , what symptoms did u experience, the reason Im Asking my son had the surgery recently .
@@user-cj4sq6pb1c lack of air resistance.empty feeling.suffocation feeling.nasal and face pain.i can't feel any air sensation .or sence steam .
@@steve_ensSo sorry, I dont know if u believe in God but if doctors haven't done nothing for u God can heal u from that, if u want you can go to Robert Clancy you tube channel he is a Pastor write him an email explain your situation to him he will pray for you. No one needs to suffer like this.
This shouldn't be a procedure at all, turbinates are not meant to be messed with they tell the brain that you're sleeping and humidify the nose. ENS is also a possibility as many here.have stated as well.
7:33 he does it on himself 🥴
Turbinates should never be touched unless there is something life threatening like a tumor or cancer. They are the first line of defense as far as the respiratory system. Turbinates surface and internally has vital nerves that signal to the brain that you are breathing. Once these nerves and tissues become damaged (even with conservative methods) it is irreversible with severe degenerative health consequences.
What is your scientific source for that information?
this causes empty nose syndrome (ENS). it is a dangerous device
I’m only getting turbinates reduction so...
How did it go? Which method did your doctor use?
The turbinate is a sensor. A sensor that God made and cant be human replicated. If a sensor in your car fails a light goes off. In our head the "light" going off is the symptoms of discomfort. That doesnt mean you just eliminate the sensor! You figure out what is wrong to fix the root of the problem! Edit: in a car you can put in a new sensor. The turbinate is God made you cant just put a new one in. The cardiovascular and nervous systems were designed to work in harmony. The turbinate is part of that! It is the link between them! You dont want to mess with that! Sorry I know your paycheck is in jeapordy but so are people's lives!
What if the “light” is still on, but you’ve fixed everything?
Then how can anyone cure their swollen turbinates? I’ve had it for 9 months now since I got covid. I hate to get surgery but I have tried many sprays many medications so surgery is next for me.
@@nancyherrera2792 Exactly, I have been congested on both sides for 9mos now with very little relief. Do all the sprays/pills and the only help is Afrin and Sudafed but we all know they are not perm options. It is easy for people to lecture us all on ENS but we already suffer daily, so what options do we have. I am pondering reducing my turbinates so I can live a better life, poor sleep and work are hard, its exhausting being congested daily.
@Jo A Not sure, obviously swelling is the main cause, maybe they can make a pill or spray that targets this only to eliminate the swelling, without rebound issues. Seems like they could invest more money into it but see this as non important.
@@nancyherrera2792 any improvement? Been dealing with the same since Covid
Psychopath! To touch nose like this is criminal, imagine doing this to yourself? Or to your dog?