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- Guardian Australia journalist Matilda Boseley and Q+A questioner Benjamin discuss the difficulty and cost of getting an ADHD diagnosis in Australia.
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Panellists: Minister for Health & Aged Care Mark Butler, Independent MP for Fowler Dai Le, Liberal Member for Menzies Keith Wolahan, Executive Director, Médecins Sans Frontières Australia Jennifer Tierney & Journalist, Guardian Australia Matilda Boseley.
This episode was broadcast on Monday November 6, 2023
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We have an ADHD daughter It took 8 months of waiting for a diagnosis from a pedestrian and it only happened when my wife went to the child health clinic in tears and hysterical. She was getting sent home from school daily both of us work full-time and are struggling with a mortgage and cost of living having no family where we live we were on thin ice with our employers for constant days off. There is little to no real support for ADHD families. The school is a little more understanding with a diagnosis but still puts her in the to hard basket and sends her home. We've tried everything still trying to find the right medication mix tactics she also suffers from ADHD behavioural insomnia its slowly killing us. As I write this I'm standing by her door hoping she falls asleep soon so we can prepare for the multiple times she'll wake up during the night and refuse to sleep ' she's not on Ritalin' although we tried. Any other mental illness or disease there is alot more support. I think it should be merit based and not one treatment suits all.
Are you 1000% sure that it is "just" ADHD?
I ask as she sort of sounds a lot like I was at a young age. Initially I was diagnosed with ADHD. But that diagnosis just didn't fit. While trying to get to the bottom of which diagnosis fit I saw many medical people, most of whom agreed with me. I have since been diagnosed as having Autism, which fitted my story much more accurately.
Yes the the exact way my niece at the age of three was diagnosed here in Canada . She would wake up and not go back to sleep . She would sing the alphabet over and over for hours. My sister was beyond sleep deprivation. It was autism. On the mild side of this huge spectrum. I had worked with children with autism and studied the different spectrums from mild degrees to the amazing Asperger’s with genius. Lots of cases of ADHD diagnosis are actually autism. Very common here in Canada. Now our health professionals are better informed and the levels of ADHD are in decline wile the Autism spectrum disorder is still on the rise. And my niece now still gets sent to sit in the hall.
@tracywatts1459 yeah she sound similar to my daughter, we might mention that on the next paediatrics visit thank you
Go Matilda! I suffer, and have been suffering from ADHD, Unmedicated and without any treatment for my whole life, as long as I can remember and have met many issues/setbacks again and again on my path that would/could've been a instead steps on/into a proper functioning, long prosperous career>House>Money>family>ect... You voiced my thoughts around the issues of ADHDiagnostic trickery perfectly!
Adhd and being homeless with my dog is bloody marvellous fun with all the back tracking and forgetting the important thungs to do but un return i forget n don't think of the struggles...i just cruise n shit in a bush, next to a tree ,it my be your tree or ya Nana's bush ..as no toilets are open for my poopsie poopie time and my dog just shits on your front lawn
The population has increased by 30% in the same period also.
Also, Adderall should be allowed to be sold here. After living in Canada for over 10 years, working with various Doctors and Psychiatrists while studying Engineering was perfect. Dex is similar, but does not have the levo- and other factors that worked for me. Sigh. Australia is also very good at inaction. Example: Believing the hype train from the US and under-prescribing people in need with chronic debilitating pain that is now a suicide epidemic with opioid medications being reduced far to much. A teen girl and a adult large male are prescribed the same. Not mg/kg or case by case.
GPs with a history of good patient care can get in silly trouble for doing the right thing. Meanwhile, Mr X while awaiting surgery, or hopefully intervention following an accident gets the news.. nothing will be done and good luck. Has no choice but ends his life. No REM sleep and no care.
Too many specialists when GPs should be getting paid the most for having the broadest knowledge. It would also lure Student Doctors to become GPs.
Furthermore, the Healthcare system should not be a business but a not for profit social fabric. We still have time to fix this but before you know it, Doctors will get commissions for selling medications from big Pharma. Just like North America. Our foolish Sister
Oh guys. I'm ADHD, PTSD and Borderline personality is often questioned... However what benefits do we deserve? Because when you are medicated what next? Because I am struggling to cope even on mine but I'm fascinated how many people just don't have motivation or feel entitled that because there lives haven't worked the way they want it must be a mental health issue... Hence pushing the industry to the brink.
The difference is, we struggle with what others find easy.
Check out a book called The Open Focus Brain by Les Femhi. In it the author has attention training exercises that is effective in treating ADHD. He also claims his method can't break through to the mainstream because the pharmaceutical industry has a stranglehold on ADHD treatments.
Stop trying fit in a world which is not designed for neurodivergents. Neurodivergents are specially gifted people. Otherwise you will only get trauma and all sorts of wounds. Find ways which will work for you. Like arts,science what ever the pathway gives you chance to have prosperous lives. I doubt office jobs or most stetiotypical jobs or life styles will give you opportunity. For example I would like to live in a farm where I have freedom to practice my gift of art. I need to be close to the wilderness to heal my soul not meds, if it is on the seaside even better back to what humans originated from. Why fight against our nature, in the first plave humans designed in such way majority of humans broken because we are trying fit in to the norms of modern. Modern life we are trapped is not fit for purpose. Not fit for purpose of us flourishing
Sadly it's not just about trying to fit in We have an ADHD daughter It took 8 months of waiting for a diagnosis from a pedestrian and it only happened when my wife went to the child health clinic in tears and hysterical. She was getting sent home from school daily both of us work full-time and are struggling with a mortgage and cost of living having no family where we live we were on thin ice with our employers for constant days off. There is little to no real support for ADHD families. The school is a little more understanding with a diagnosis but still puts her in the to hard basket and sends her home. We've tried everything still trying to find the right medication mix tactics she also suffers from ADHD behavioural insomnia its slowly killing us. As I write this I'm standing by her door hoping she falls asleep soon so we can prepare for the multiple times she'll wake up during the night and refuse to sleep ' she's not on Ritalin' although we tried. Any other mental illness or disease there is alot more support. I think it should be merit based and not one treatment suits all.
Dear god. Can totally tell she didnt get her job by her academic status. A whole book about nothing.
You've read it have you?
i can’t imagine you read it but i found it incredibly thoroughly researched and matilda’s journalistic abilities really shine through. it’s structured like a part memoir part self help part research paper which I found very ADHD friendly. very worth the read definitely not about nothing!!
I think parents want all the hard work of parenting done by their child taking a pill it don't work like that