Contact Point for Serve & Forehand Loop in Table Tennis

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  • čas přidán 27. 12. 2017
  • What is the optimal contact point on the racket when serving and doing the forehand topspin? Today, coach EmRatThich explains the best contact point to get maximized spin and speed of the strokes.
    Mastering the contact point for each stroke is very important. It will help you make a deceptive serve. And improve the power of your strokes, which is the key of table tennis techniques.
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Komentáře • 151

  • @pingsunday
    @pingsunday  Před 6 lety +17

    For the contact point on the backhand side: Backhand push at (3,3) or (3,4). Backhand flick at (3,2).
    Read more at: pingsunday.com/contact-point-max-spin-table-tennis-serve/

  • @KalpitSharma
    @KalpitSharma Před 6 lety +2

    You are the best Table Tennis coach on CZcams...

  • @ruelgrubio
    @ruelgrubio Před 6 lety +5

    Such a very helpful tips and info Master! Thank you for sparing time in sharing all this.

  • @JAYDEV402
    @JAYDEV402 Před 6 lety +9

    yes, that is what we expect from the SuperCoach EmRatThich... just superb... just EmRatThich...!

  • @susanwakeman610
    @susanwakeman610 Před 6 lety +1

    Love your intelligent insights! I wish I started watching your videos a long time ago. You've helped me a great deal.

  • @mohdjunaid1064
    @mohdjunaid1064 Před 6 lety +3

    Thanks coach for such a great video. I know it have taken a lot of time in preparation

  • @gilbertoyaxcal6310
    @gilbertoyaxcal6310 Před 6 lety +4

    Happy new year coach and all folks. As my first year ranking, I went up 2 categories it will be my best year (despite that i am over 50). i apreciate your efforts. THANKS a lot!!!

  • @axetrac10
    @axetrac10 Před 6 lety +3

    Loved the video...was very informative and useful

  • @FedorMachida
    @FedorMachida Před 6 lety +1

    Great stuff, Coach! I will definitely try to practice these lessons.

  • @juliaspanish3309
    @juliaspanish3309 Před 6 lety +4

    Great video thanks a lot. I'm having real trouble learning to serve , I'm hoping I can now put your good advice into practice 🏓 All the best to you and your family for the coming year 😀

  • @yl8908
    @yl8908 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you very much ! I am going to watch all your videos .

  • @aideeonebaby435
    @aideeonebaby435 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi PingSunday. I watch alot of your contents repeatedly week after week with others as I truly believe it takes a village to raise a child. I adapt this to my learning and comprehension of this great game. I say to you humbly, - Thank you for your wealth of knowledge. Thank you for time to even post what I consider to be gold(your videos). From someone who watched Waldner in his day to Xu'perman, Timo. . . . Ma and Zhang JK
    Thanks PingSunday
    Avid fan & believer - Shauny from New Zealand

  • @familiavitoriosanordeste
    @familiavitoriosanordeste Před 6 lety +1

    Parabéns... como sempre, os seus vídeos nos ensinam muito.

  • @reezrun899
    @reezrun899 Před 6 lety +1

    Good content coach😃!Thanks for uploading this video for us!!

  • @letsgetwasted7698
    @letsgetwasted7698 Před 6 lety +1

    i love you coach few days back i have worked out on loosing down my grip and iam feeling that there is more readiness and more speed in a game

  • @judithlatorza135
    @judithlatorza135 Před 4 lety +1

    I'd always watch your videos coach thank you for sharing.

  • @guati714
    @guati714 Před 6 lety

    Hi from Bogota Colombia, i would like many of this videos. I like the subtitles its very usefull for me i dont speak english very well and the subs help me a lot. Thanks EmRatThich

  • @yamlau
    @yamlau Před 2 lety

    Your videos are so excellent. Thank you

  • @eLdotC
    @eLdotC Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you Coach Emrat

  • @sandipghosh6854
    @sandipghosh6854 Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent Clarification 👍

  • @alic1433
    @alic1433 Před 6 lety

    Finally, a new video! Thank you🔥

  • @emilianolus9215
    @emilianolus9215 Před 6 lety

    Excelente como siempre!

  • @nawanview1122
    @nawanview1122 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you coach 🙏

  • @antiporfavor
    @antiporfavor Před 6 lety +2

    Good stuff in here. Now that I think, I remember that for my super topspin serve with high speed I hit the ball with the top part of the racket. Guess I never knew why I do that (untill now).

  • @francescodemetrio5473
    @francescodemetrio5473 Před 6 lety

    Fantastic!!! Thank you very much!!!

  • @auralresource6243
    @auralresource6243 Před rokem +1

    Gold! Thank you

  • @yaakovgov7650
    @yaakovgov7650 Před 6 lety +1

    Well done ERT!!

  • @jimilthakor3798
    @jimilthakor3798 Před 6 lety +2

    Wowii easy to understand thnx...👍

  • @user-fo7il3pb2f
    @user-fo7il3pb2f Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you, I hope you make the same video for the backhand as well.

  • @snahartupas
    @snahartupas Před 9 měsíci

    keren coach emratich !! big fan of your channel

  • @manjushb2708
    @manjushb2708 Před 6 lety +2

    welcome back coach

  • @jimmyandersen1299
    @jimmyandersen1299 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks keep doing all the videos :)

  • @ulm287
    @ulm287 Před 6 lety +1

    NICEEEE
    Thanks a lot for your videos i really look forward for each and one of them
    And i totally understand that you are busy :)
    If you would have tips how to make people move that would be very helpful, in a sense that
    for example : always jump after each stroke to one does not just stand still or sth like that :)
    Keep up the videos :)

  • @addien5809
    @addien5809 Před 5 lety

    Thanks coach👍👍👍

  • @lesgeekeursmobile8327
    @lesgeekeursmobile8327 Před 6 lety +2

    Very Good vidéo

  • @jane_is_best9752
    @jane_is_best9752 Před 6 lety

    So thanks to your advise

  • @markterrin8673
    @markterrin8673 Před 6 lety

    Very useful! A lot of European coaches teach different staff. According to them for example best contact point for fh loop is 4.2-4.3. But exactly as you said I find too many balls are off the table after hitting there despite the speed and spin.

  • @jaysharma5822
    @jaysharma5822 Před 4 lety +1

    FUCKING AMAZING. The explanation is near perfect with proper visualization. Keep up the great work

  • @nikkelssonn6388
    @nikkelssonn6388 Před 6 lety +12

    Thanks coach. I have 3 different serves: Pendulum (side-top, side-back) similar stroke. Reverse Pendulum (side-top, side-back) similar stroke. High toss serve (nospin, heavy backspin) similar stroke. I only vary my contact, placement, speed of stroke. My coach says I have better serve than most of the players in my club, and thats because of your videos I have also made my strokes better with help of your videos. Its okay for you to take break sometimes you have deserved it. Greetings from Finland.

    • @pingsunday
      @pingsunday  Před 6 lety +2

      thank you so much! Congratulation for your serve. Is it the set-up serve? or more an ace serve?

    • @nikkelssonn6388
      @nikkelssonn6388 Před 6 lety +1

      EmRatThich Table Tennis Coach pendulums are set-up for forehand, reverse pendulums are se-up for backhand, high toss serves are trick/ace serves i use them and long ace serves to put pressure to my opponent on decisive points. By the way Im half Vietnamese and Im in Vietnam rigth now on vacation. :D

  • @andyzhaott
    @andyzhaott Před 6 lety

    Yay! A new video!

  • @MegaBarrette
    @MegaBarrette Před 6 lety

    Very helpful thanks/ Barrette

  • @user-my7em4nn9r
    @user-my7em4nn9r Před 5 měsíci

    thank you for the all tips you make because of yo i beat a 400 ranked player in sweden and i have played for 2 months

  • @kshitijkumarkushwaha8903

    Thnqq so much sir.

  • @MattCM89
    @MattCM89 Před 6 měsíci

    Love your channel! You are one of the top table tennis lesson channels on CZcams! So much depth. Youve become like a virtual coach 😊.
    One question i have.
    Ive been told by many people I hit the ball too early, resulting in power loss and hitting the net. I worry about missing the ball so rush and hit early.
    Do you have any drills/tips on learning the "feeling" of when to hit the ball?

  • @othioanh1509
    @othioanh1509 Před 5 lety

    Thank you

  • @lannguyenphuong5229
    @lannguyenphuong5229 Před 4 lety

    Cảm ơn bạn ! những bài của bạn rất bổ ích và thú vị

  • @YH-cq5qf
    @YH-cq5qf Před 6 lety +6

    Can you upload how to train my RPB and the correct techniques when doing it.Also,can you upload some CR videos?

  • @urchin524
    @urchin524 Před 5 lety

    Hi Coach, can you please make video on how to read on the kind of spin, and how to return the different types of serves

  • @icurtispe
    @icurtispe Před 6 lety

    Excellent video! What about the serves with a J-pen racket?

  • @wasiffarhan1329
    @wasiffarhan1329 Před 6 lety +1

    Hi coach,
    Thank you for all your tips! I had two areas I wanted to ask about. I am a modern defender who blocks/counterloops on forehand instead of chopping (like Filus).
    1. I saw your forehand loop videos about how using wrist is University level and now this video about contact point. I've learned to weight transfer properly and can now hit 10+ loops consistently (I could hit more but as I am a modern defender I am focusing more on other aspects). SO, I find fixing my contact point and using my wrist both at the same time very difficult and I miss a lot. Should I firstly focus on fixing my contact point for fh loop and then go to using wrist? Or both at the same time? My coach never really told me to focus on contact point.
    2. I saw in another video you told a modern defender to contact the ball lower. I also have/had the same problem but instead, my coach told me to keep my bat more open. Thus, I have semi consistent chops now without much backspin. This is also because I practised very fast multiball and developed a habit of a short stroke (almost like a chopblock). So trying to fix it now. Should I slow down multiball speed? And secondly how do I chop the very fast opening loops low at hip level? Since they are very fast there is no other option but to take it high.
    Thanks for all the videos!

  • @ExtremeGameTT
    @ExtremeGameTT Před 6 lety +3

    Very funny the arrows used to show the "3X3" point in some players, even when the ball y very far away from the paddle

  • @jesusnagao185
    @jesusnagao185 Před 6 lety +1

    What about the backhand? Does it have to be the same contact point as the forehand? Amazing video :)

  • @Baki-mv8eb
    @Baki-mv8eb Před 6 lety +1

    EmRatThich I'm thinking to make a setup with def blade and with attack loop rubbers so maybe I could get more control when playing my offensive game? What do you think about that, could it be possible?

  • @tinnyunt4924
    @tinnyunt4924 Před 5 lety

    Thanks

  • @osamrx
    @osamrx Před 6 lety +2

    How can I spin the ball more coach??
    Can you do another video for this please ??

  • @JAYDEV402
    @JAYDEV402 Před 6 lety +1

    Hey Coach EmRatThich, i have a doubt, will u pls correct it?
    Sir, Forehand is played outside the body line. (I m righty, so I have to hit the ball from the right-outside, extending the right hand)
    Should I play Backhands the same way, extending the hand to left-outside, or it has to be played within the body line?
    Thanks in advance!

  • @andyzhaott
    @andyzhaott Před 6 lety

    Hey coach!
    If I have a blade that has a small sweet spot (Stiga Allround Classic), would it be the same point (3,3) or should I just aim for the sweet spot?

  • @abdurrehmankhan5844
    @abdurrehmankhan5844 Před 5 lety

    I saw yunpeng guo video about this as per your suggestion.He says that firstly keep your racket flat when touching the ball and then close the angle while hitting. Any suggestion on it ?

  • @dimashevchenko1360
    @dimashevchenko1360 Před 6 lety +2

    New video yay long time ago

  • @vahidzafari2021
    @vahidzafari2021 Před 6 lety

    For me works like this: point 1:1 for max underspin, opponent mostly shots to the net. For topspin against backspin, head of the racket, and for topspin rally almost the the point that Ma Long hits🙂.

  • @mitchy98
    @mitchy98 Před 6 lety

    Hi Coach, can you show us the correct technique for short pips with shakehand grip on backhand? It is difficult to practise because no coach can help me improve my skills.

  • @khushboosingh7980
    @khushboosingh7980 Před 6 lety

    Coach can you suggest me a good all round blade which is good for offence at amateur level

  • @danielfisher9695
    @danielfisher9695 Před 6 lety +6

    Hey coach, can you tell me a good blade for an offensive player who also mixes in some offset shots?(Chop Blocks and either sidespin forehand or sidespin backhand shots) Also, can you make a video on different types of wood in table tennis and combinations of wood that are best for your style of play. Mine is Ayous and Koto.

    • @minplex7132
      @minplex7132 Před 6 lety

      Daniel Fisher Look in his Equipment playlist ^^

  • @iJoyfull
    @iJoyfull Před 6 lety +1

    Please clarify the contact point on the racket is from top view or bottom view that make me less confused.

  • @paskaldominic
    @paskaldominic Před 6 lety +1

    Still I am confused with the grip. Should we tighten our grip at the point of contact when we hit the ball for top spin?

  • @aashirsidana7929
    @aashirsidana7929 Před 6 lety

    Coach i have a question, why we loose the feeling of ball on the table we have never played?

  • @Stoic1990
    @Stoic1990 Před 5 lety

    Respected coach can you please teach us the detail of Penhold grip.
    I use Penhold grip and I face a lot of trouble while playing.
    Please teach us through a video to correct me.

  • @abdullah.ashoor2001
    @abdullah.ashoor2001 Před 6 lety

    hey coach , how do u analyse the Chinese philosophy in table tennis ?

  • @josemariafinez5879
    @josemariafinez5879 Před rokem

    Is the same technique also when you play with short pips? Thanks

  • @andrewchen1853
    @andrewchen1853 Před 6 lety +8

    10 Million years later... his finally back!

  • @abdurrehmankhan5844
    @abdurrehmankhan5844 Před 5 lety

    Hey coach, I find it easy and comfortable to hit the ball at 3,2 while attacking(not loop) rather than 3,3 and i mostly see top players to attack at point 3,2 rather than 3,3 am i right?

  • @samuelmignot
    @samuelmignot Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks for your great videos! It is rare to find such advanced ones but it is so needed!
    I am a little confused when it comes to serve and the point of contact for max underspin. I agree 4.2 or 4.3 give you the maximum velocity and speed when flicking your wrist, but the ball cannot stay long on the rubber and I found it harder to put spin. I usually hit the ball on 3.1 or 3.2 and found it more efficient (for short underpin serve obviously). I my mind, the longer the ball on the rubber the more spin you have. What do you think? Thanks!

    • @Humble_Bear
      @Humble_Bear Před rokem

      3-1 for forehand underspin.

    • @patrikpetersson8248
      @patrikpetersson8248 Před 6 měsíci

      I agree. For my side/underspin pendulum serve i think a contact point in the 3.1-3.2-region improves consistency (compared to the 4.1-4.2-region) and still generates very good spin.

  • @khairulanuar3087
    @khairulanuar3087 Před 3 lety

    Hi coach, how about backhand topspin or back spin?

  • @shereifonline
    @shereifonline Před 5 lety

    Hi Coach, what is the name of this school that train table tennis in the video please ?

  • @BinBon1517
    @BinBon1517 Před rokem

    A có thể chỉ giúp e cách tập luyện để biết được mình đã đánh trúng điểm cần ở trên vợt ko ạ?

  • @dimashevchenko1360
    @dimashevchenko1360 Před 6 lety +1

    Hello Coach!
    I know you are busy but is it right that you should not rotate your hip to the maximum? Just a little kick like Fan Zhendong but Ma Long uses his hip more and has a bigger arm swing. Fan Zhendong has a shorter arm swing as we can see in this video. One more thing about the hip, is how fast you should rotate the hip as I can see Fan Zhendong moves it little and slow.
    Second question is about where your free arm should be. Should it be still or make a follow thru? In a right handers case it is the left arm. I see that Fan's left arm is quite still and doesn't move so much. But Ma Long's arm is moving more and does a follow thru. So can you explain this?
    What are the posstives for both the hip and free arm? Thank you best coach I think more want to know this. Best Regards!

    • @dimashevchenko1360
      @dimashevchenko1360 Před 6 lety +1

      By the way one thing, I think that the hip is used to transform the power from the legs to the hip and then to our arm. Is that why we use our hip?

  • @desert1987
    @desert1987 Před 6 lety +3

    Does the contact point vary when you are left hander?? For example when you serve reverse pendulum the best contact point is 4,3 but when you use left hand is it mirrored or the same

  • @candylaria5414
    @candylaria5414 Před 5 lety

    Coach ERT...
    Why is Zhang Jike not in the new ITTF Men's Top Players?
    Did he retire already? 🤔

  • @edson754
    @edson754 Před 10 měsíci

    ok, I know what the ideal contact point is, but what can I do to improve and hit that part of the racket consistently?

  • @federeral-taie3795
    @federeral-taie3795 Před 6 lety

    can any body tell me the best contact point for push recieve ? and for backhand top spin

  • @user-xx1gq7nr9o
    @user-xx1gq7nr9o Před 11 měsíci

    I Find it extremely difficult to execute this shot, every time I try to follow the racket up until eye level the ball goes far away, so I try to keep the swing until chest-neck level so I can control the ball but ai feel like this is not the right swing for Fh tp, any ideas?

  • @qomarqomarudin7307
    @qomarqomarudin7307 Před 4 lety

    many thanks coach though a lot late

  • @teamzwaldner9800
    @teamzwaldner9800 Před 5 lety

    Plz help me i don't have proper action and always i chaged griping problem plz help me

  • @lesgeekeursmobile8327
    @lesgeekeursmobile8327 Před 6 lety +2

    Oh !!!!

  • @itsfate6535
    @itsfate6535 Před 6 lety

    How does koki niwa execute the chop block??

  • @toekneema
    @toekneema Před 6 lety +18

    Your video evidence did not prove the forehand loop contact point. The still pictures of the pros also do not necessarily mean they hit the ball where you stated

    • @kapilellawadi
      @kapilellawadi Před 6 lety +1

      Tony Ma Did you see the white marks of the new ball on Ma long's rubber?

    • @toekneema
      @toekneema Před 6 lety +1

      and it seems like the contact is more in 3.2, rather than 3.3

    • @tellmestraight
      @tellmestraight Před 6 lety +2

      Emratthich says 3.3 and 3.2 in the video. Plus I think you carry the ball a little at impact. So it could move from 3.3 to 3.2.

    • @therealnotanut
      @therealnotanut Před 6 lety +1

      theres also the fact to consider that they may have done forehand push training

    • @8uvrays
      @8uvrays Před 4 lety

      I realized this the first time I picked up a bat. After playing for several months I had a long practice session with a new ball hitting both backhand and forehand topspins but flipped racquet randomly. I happened to glance down and noticed I had painted a solid line about the width of a popsicle stick across both sides of the racquet at about the top of zone three. Only two marks outside that zone. The rule is for more speed and spin hit the part of the racquet moving fastest, the lower tip of the racquet for topspins, the upper tip on slices with a shake hand grip. This is not necessarily true with all grips and orientations of the racquet. Holds true for tennis also. Find a good camera angle of a practice session and slow the video down to see this clearly. But if you cannot feel it you are gripping way too hard. Click on the three dots to change speed

  • @Anupinsimi
    @Anupinsimi Před 6 lety

    I see lot of players move back after they hit the first topspin and then continue attack. How to practice this art.

  • @nikitonixgametv
    @nikitonixgametv Před 6 lety

    Hey, what is the music used in that video?

  • @Kepalas89
    @Kepalas89 Před 6 lety

    What contact point should be for topspin serves?

  • @tabletenniswithabp3468
    @tabletenniswithabp3468 Před 4 lety +1

    What about backhand topspin?

  • @BrNk3
    @BrNk3 Před 5 lety

    stupid question... im left handed the contact point is the opposite?

  • @ShopmaLLcomUa
    @ShopmaLLcomUa Před 4 lety

    your arrows are not a joke!

  • @am1of1
    @am1of1 Před 6 lety

    ❤️❤️🙌

  • @MinhLe-pl8kq
    @MinhLe-pl8kq Před 6 lety

    A có thể dịch tất cả video từ tiếng anh sang tiếng việt được không

  • @chebkhaled1985
    @chebkhaled1985 Před 6 lety +3

    While I found most of your video informative, i just saw a video of "ma long perfect mechanics" and it seems he top spin at (3,1). Gonna try (3,4) today though in the training

    • @safrimasdon199
      @safrimasdon199 Před 5 lety

      Hello friend , So base on ur experience, which one u prefer.. either contact point on (3,1) or (3,4).

    • @RobertoCostas
      @RobertoCostas Před 2 lety

      @@safrimasdon199 I think there is no difference either between 3.2 and 3.3 or between 3.1 and 3.4. The distance of 3.1 to the head or the side of the bat is the same as that of 3.4. Same reason for the other pair of zones.

  • @profesorpluto3532
    @profesorpluto3532 Před 2 lety +1

    Backhand contact point?

  • @Andrey14-10
    @Andrey14-10 Před 4 lety

    👍

  • @mrstantastic1990
    @mrstantastic1990 Před 6 lety

    Anyone knows the background music? :D

  • @yantos.324
    @yantos.324 Před 2 lety

    👍👍👍💪💪💪

  • @maribeltubo5585
    @maribeltubo5585 Před 4 lety

    how to win a game?