Live Multitest Floor standing speakers - 1000 Euro per pair
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- The timeline:
0:00 - 18:09 - Intro
18:10 - 26:02 - Introduction
26:03- 1:05:01 - Acoustic Energy 120
1:05:02 - 1:22:55 - Fenton
1:23:56 - 1:56:33 - Dali Oberon 5
1:56:34 - 2:18:17 - Focal Theva N2
2:18:18 - 2:28:47 - Conclusion
The music used in this stream:
Sohn - Riverbank, from the album ’Trust’
Apollo5 - Northern Lights, from the album ‘Haven’, composed by Ola Gjeilo
Gino Vanelli - Santa Rosa, from the album ’Nightwalker' - Věda a technologie
The timeline for this test
18:10 - Introduction
26:03 - Acoustic Energy 120
1:05:02 - Fenton
1:23:56 - Dali Oberon 5
1:56:34 - Focal Theva N2
2:18:18 - Conclusion
12 hours late to the party,, 😥
Thank you kindly for your time and work, gentlemen,, 💖🙏💖
You are all my heroes,, 🌟🌟🌟🌟,, and so are still the little Creek amp,, 🥰
Creek + Dali, good synergy. Arcam + Acoustic Energy / Focal, good synergy. The "bookshelfes" DALI Oberon1 and 2, with a good enough sub, are real hifi-gems,, ❣
Love these Sunday Morning streams.
Creek & Dali for the win. Great sounding music all day long for £1600 here in the UK is just incredible.
Thank you for the kind words!
Amazing work!! Thanks for the time invested here - excellent.
Love that SOHN track too, absolutely sensational!
I like coming here to listen and compare with you guys. You have some great tracks, and clearly refined ears. Good stuff guys !!!
Thank you for the kind words!
Focal anytime anyday. For me personally, detail retrieval is important, no point going for 'musicality' when it is masking so many minute details. Thats just me. Would also like to see what you think about the Vestias and the new Aria Evo X, which is a more civilized, matured, refined and calmer sounding speaker than the original Arias.
We love these comparisons. Thank you guy's! Maybe next time with some Monitor Audio speakers
Yes. Bronze will do I think.
Very enjoyable, tks
many many thanks for these great test sessions!
Sticking to creek amp (it does not make too much sense to match 1k speakers with the Pass, and also because I liked it better in many combinations) my favorite list is:
1-Focal
2-Acoustic Energy
3-Dali
with 2 and 3 quite close.
Thanks!
Was een leuke live stream weer 😀
Thanks!
Nice video, great effort on your part as always guys, very well done and thank you.
Considering the comparison, I agree with your conclusions and I would like to add that Dali's turning point on producing really good loudspeakers started with the very inexpensive Zensor series almost a decade ago. To my eyes (and ears) they are currently hitting it out of the park with their Oberon and especially Opticon (mk2) series. On a side note, they pair extremely well with Primare and Audiolab electronics.
Thanks!
jullie hebben me erg geholpen, dankje.
paar jaar terug oberon 5 gehad met subwoofer dat was mijn eerste set, vanalles gehad in de tussentijd denkende dat je iets beters moet hebben (FOMO), van focal tot dynaudio waar dynaudio ook heel mooi is maar toch wat te neutraal/saai soms. nu ga ik gewoon terug naar deze oberon 5, geweldig veel voor je geld. wil je beter ga je snel richting 2000 euro speakers.
Eens. Soms heb je niet meer nodig.
Haha zelfde verhaal voor mij. Dynaudio relaxed voor je oren, mooi in het laag maar mis altijd de echte entertainment. Hoe groot is je kamer? Ik ga ook weer terug naar de Oberon...twijfel alleen nog tussen de 5 en 7. Grootte kamer kan allebei aan en lees ook dat sommigen juist de 5 beter vinden dan de 7.
@@Santbak ik heb de 1 en 5 gehad. Mijn kamer is 16m2 maar wel open. Ik heb de ervaring dat groter meer slecht dan goed kan doen. Van wat ik lees zijn de 7 inch woofers in de 3 en 7 te overdreven en snel te modderig tav de midrange. Maar forums en internet kunnen veel zeggen alles hangt af van je kamer,voorkeur en apparatuur.
@@Santbak ik heb overigens de focus 140 en audience 52se gehad echt waanzinnig mooie tweeters maar ik moest constant het volume omhoog doen om wat leven te krijgen in de muziek
Great test guys! Hard to hear what speakers can do via CZcams but thought the amp comparison and the differing recording quality of the tracks was interesting 👍👍
I'm listening through a couple of Genelec 8351B+7370sub, monitors, in a music studio control room,
and I can promise that the differences between speakers and amps are quite audible,,
and so are the rooms ventilation system and every little movement of the Alpha-dudes in the sofa/chair,, etc.
@@IrenESorius if you think you're hearing what the guys are hearing, you're deluded.
@@REX4340 Of course I cant. Have someone told you I could?
Also, the sound quality was great so pairing a top streamer/DAC with budget amp and speakers is a viable option.
The expert should sit in the middle next time ;-) Nice music selection! Thanks!
We are all equal at Alpha.
Great Demo, much appreciated -- thanks!🙂
For when you audition speaker cables, please consider the Tellurium Q brand -- Blue II's and/or Black 2's for example. IMHO, great cables at a realistic price level.
Also, I don't know if you've ever done a show on open baffle speakers, but I'd love to hear that. If one DIY's them, they can have just the one full-range driver per baffle (no soldering required).
You can also get the baffles professionally cut for something like clones of the Decware ZF15M in 40mm thick oak for a total price of c. £1300 a pair, baffles and drivers included. This is appreciably less than the price of the ready-made speakers (at least £3500 before shipping, customs and VAT). The plans from Decware are dirt cheap at $30. IMHO, this is one heck of a deal and to my ears they sound exquisite.
Hi. We have a few sets of speaker cable we utilise for tests: Art Speak, Driade Flow 405 and 808 Reference and the vd Hul Nova. That's enough to choose from already.
Open baffle: we are probably not going to test that. Too much of a niche, too much dependency on the room for the performance. It is a subject we won't draw enough of an audience to make the effort worthwhile, something we consider as well. We thought, for instance, that the phono stages multi test would generate interest. Not so much.
@@jmtennapelThankyou for the reply. 🙂
Surprised there'd be little interest in open baffles. In my experience (admittedly probably rather less than yours), they depend less, rather than more on the room. Could just be my main listening room I suppose, or maybe my main preamp/power amp combo, but both pairs of open baffles I possess sound considerably better than any closed box design (up to £1500) I possess.
Also I hear large differences in sound quality when I run preamp off battery. The dac also benefits from my yeti battery. Would like to hear why this is and what you think.
Fentons should not be allowed on the market. Killjoys, will put people off. You can get great stuff for the price on the used market. I liked the acoustic energies especially on the pass labs. Dali sounded bright to me by maybe I should blame the Fentons for that . I liked them much better with the pass labs again. Too bright with Creek/infineon. I thought the focal sounded veiled on the Pass, better on the Creek surprisingly. But Sohn much better on the pass.
Some other alternatives I would be interested in in Q-acoustics 5040 and Heco Aurora 700. From these i would pick the Acoustic Energy.
Hi Alpha audio..can you make a video about you preference for 2 way speakers and where and how they fit to someone listening habits? Thanks
Leuke test. Kan de volgende keer Q Acoustics, Wharfedale of Teufel erbij zijn?
We hadden Q Acoustics uitgenodigd. Helaas wilden ze niet.
I’ve always been a fan of tower over Standmounts…and the Narrower, dual woofer design Towers are more “complete” and give way to pairing with more expensive Amps and Dacs however some may say it shouldn’t be done…why!!?? I have a pair of the original KLH Kendalls which beat the Q’s in every way, and cost me a pittance of 1200.00 for the pair. I’m surprised how much equipment is “forward” of the speakers in your test room. And I’ve heard no speakers that sound better with the grills on?? Next time test them with and with out. And yeah, it’s awfully difficult to play tracks that any of you don’t know and haven’t heard to actually “compare”. Why not have a a group of select songs that are played on each test?? That’s how we did it when auditioning gear years ago!! Before streaming sadly…. The reality is, there are a group of choice floorstanders, that sonically…are excellent, costing less than 1500.00!! They can be pretty much be paired with any front end and perform well. The AE’s and the Dali are two of those Brands that deserves the “Audiophile” stamp!! And all that nice Camera gear, capture some good close ups of the speakers with the grills off!! Be nice to hear a few more specs as well. Keep it up guys, doin good!!!
Thanks for the feedback!
What speaker cable do you use in the test ?
Driade Flow Reference
I have heard of Fenton speakers but never listened to them in person. They are also branded Skytronic in some markets. Cheap and nasty speakers and going by some of the videos on YT, contain no crossovers, really thin cables and no internal bracing or sound absorbing filling. They are about the same quality as White Van Speakers. CORRECTION: I just watched the YT video I was referring to again and the speaker does have an electrolytic cap on the tweeter and one brace glued to the inside. Still very cheap and nasty: czcams.com/video/lcCK6qjnun0/video.html
Horrible stuff
@@TheAlphaAudio Please look inside one and report what you find. It will be fun.
While of course I agree with your assessment of Fenton, the lack of a crossover on the woofer is not necessarily an indication of a bad speaker. Relying on the natural rolloff of a driver can sound very natural to my ears. Like anything it's a tradeoff and all depends on the overal design, choice and quality of drivers etc. Woofers should start to beam and experience cone breakup at higher frequencies but it's not something I necessarily seem to hear or find objectionable. Oh well audio remains a mystery and dark art.
@@RustOnTime there is no crossover at all.
@@mddawson1 review will be live at 19:30 CET on alpha-audio.net.
Do this test :Børresen M3 or M6......^.^
Hard to get here.
Zouden jullie ook een keer van alle boekenplank speaker alle merken kunnen doen en ook de versterkers die bij elkaar passen zo als Bowers of Wilkens/Dynaudio/monitor audio/Kef/Focal/Dali/Elac/Sonus faber/Audiovector/ Fyne Audio/triangle/ Quad s1/Neat Acoustic/Amphion/😄
Je bedoelt de multi test van vorig jaar die we in drie delen gedaan hebben en die terug te vinden is in het archief van livestreams?
@@jmtennapel jaa ook maar dan ook met andere versterkers die ook bij de boekenplank speaker passen zo dat je echt kan horen bij welke beter past :)
@@dariopietersonDat is niet te doen. De monitor speaker test is met twee versterkers gedaan ook en is bijna 7 uur livestream bij elkaar. Wat zou je nog meer willen dan dat? Niemand doet dit verder, omdat het ongelofelijk veel werk is.