Its not a wing, its a side dam! I use to race RC cars that look just like this! Move the dam forward and the car will turn better or move it back and it doesnt get as lose in the rear! We raced on dirt and without the side dam, the cars were half as fast and one with it! Doesnt really do anything down the straights but you could keep your corner speed!
Thank you for the information. I'm sure there are different terms for what they may be called in different series. This was the first time I'd seen one in person.
They run these on dirt late models quite often in Michigan. Billboards, air dam, and side wing are some names I have heard them called. Excellent for keeping your speed in the corners, not much of a help on straight aways. I am surprised so many folks have never seen these! I know they are less common now, but through the late 80's and early 00's I saw them quite often!
They used to have a series for Mods in the mid 2000's as well that traveled the state. Granted mostly the west side of the state though. For the mods they would put late model tires on and some would put sprint car wings on instead of the fiberglass side wings.
@@cameronwiseman8598 I think I remember something like that at Crystal Speedway back in like '06. Might be wrong. I cannot remember for certain if it was, but fairly sure it was Crystal. Loved that track!
@@JBSampson88 thats Crystal motor speedway, yes I have seen the winged lates like this on video there as well, watching video of it reminded me of the banking at the old avilla raceway in indiana, remember seeing the mention of crystal on the sod series sprints schedual, it stuck out to me as it was around the time crystal pepsi was in production so I pictured crystal as this prinstine top rate paved track, and of course the ubiquitus pepsi sponsoered clock on the back wall of the consessions stand heh, turns out its just an ol dirt track built in the 60's near crystal lake in michagan in the middle of the state. though the announcer mentionins gary fedawa ah that takes me back, he was team mates with bill tyler bryan the silver crown drivers brother he was the one I would cheer on when at the track and my cousin would cheer on gary, we werent hank lower fans but he was from angola and was quite good as well a ledgend on the small indiana and michagan tracks never met hank in person though but saw him on the track many times on those summer nights at avilla and baer field, and then angola, angola is the only one still running thats near by, avilla was shut down by the city for noise, and baer field well the owner died and his sons in colarado didn't renew the lease that a distant relation on moms side had and was running the track, it was supposedly bought by gm and will be used as a test track or that was the plan but now they say the 1/2 is too small for their needs, though some local racers were looking to buy it before gm did and return racing to it but it needed work not having been paved since 1997 and the facilites needing much repair, and just as it was starting to get some good shows, and even run some dirt courses in the middle of the infield with dirt bikes and maybe micro sprints or full size not sure but remember seeing winged sprint like cars on the website when it was in operation in 2019 but my wishes to start going to races came too late for that season and then all that happened good news is the track and stands as of august are still intact so if gm decides to resell it there is always the remote chance, but its likely if they dont use it they will just rip it up and build more stupid wearhouses or auto salvage back there :{
I'm just making a guess... but I wouldn't say the wing helped as a wing per say I'd put my money on the fact that it added more weight to that side of the car... but I dont round track race either jus my best guess
@@highoctanecards it works as a side dam I race oval amd we call them billboard's when going through the corners it gives the race car more mechanical grip by putting more side bite on the right side tires to keep the cars speed up as high as possible in the corners and the side effect of more corner speed means more speed down straightaway that's why it is heavily braised lile it is. If it was just for weight they would just add led blocks by bolting them the frame of the car it's for more side bite to dig in the right side tires even more and helps keep bite on the left tires as well cuse I prevents the little bit of roll the car would have with out it and keeps left side tires in the track as well
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@@BillBondsHasAPosse cant use it for sponsorship decals and space gotta be able to see through it especially during a outlaw super latemodel race which is what this car is gotta see man and it's to push more force on the left side of car to keep.it onto the track on right sides to keep corner speeds up and that reflects into faster straightaway speeds this car with out would be half a second slower
Us local drivers are very innovative and keep it a secret till tech guy finds out then find a new way around the rules it always a fight between us drivers and car owners against the tech guy to see how much we can get away with. Asphalt or dirt sprint car takes more talent to drive then a indy or f1 car due to no computers in these cars no traction control just straight up power and drivers talent
@@AmbientMike they have systems to help with tire soin it's not a true traction control but ask any indy car driver or f1 driver the ones that have tried to race a 410 winged sprint car will tell you that uts alot harder and takes more skill to run one on dirt and asphalt then a f1 car due to the simplicity of the sprint car no computers can't adjust motor and turning on the fly with the steering wheel buttons all you got is a mirror just for left side spotting on dirt no rear view mirror and you can adjust the wing manually or with a button electronically as your racing on asphalt when I Ran a few races iin a 360 asphalt sprint car on a huge inside half mile track with a ton of banking we never lift at all and slide the wings straight for the straight away then tilt them on entry for down force so we can get more speed down straightaway less drag when the wing is flat it's sketchy doing it cuse the car gets really light and feels like it's gonna take off like a airplane then once you tilt it on entry you can feel the suspension compress when you tilt wing for down force and you can feel it makes your stomach feel very heavy weird feeling for first few races. On dirt I just left wing alone you need the down force so you don't spin tires on straightaway and the tires to dig in as hard as you can get them to down straights for more grip which means more speed and less tire spin lol tony Stewart has even said if you can drive a sprint car well enough to place top 5 on eberage then you can drive a indy car in the indy 500 and be able to habdle and drive the car like it's nothing after a few laps to get use to it. That is why sprint cars was invented is to get guys ready for indy car racing using sprints midgets and silver crown cars
@@youknoweverything7643 Ive watched F1 for years and ive never once heard of a system to help with tire life, why did you say traction control in the first place? I think you are misguided on how much the steering wheel controls the car, fuel maps and differential locking are not a driver aid, and doesn't make it easier. "and slide the wings straight for the straight away then tilt them on entry for down force so we can get more speed down" ^you are literally just describing DRS, one of the 'buttons' that F1 drivers have, which is no less of a aid that what a F1 has. I completely agree with you that it takes immense skill for any motorsport (especially dirt ovals) but spreading fake facts about other disciplines is just rude.
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Its not a wing, its a side dam! I use to race RC cars that look just like this! Move the dam forward and the car will turn better or move it back and it doesnt get as lose in the rear! We raced on dirt and without the side dam, the cars were half as fast and one with it! Doesnt really do anything down the straights but you could keep your corner speed!
Thank you for the information. I'm sure there are different terms for what they may be called in different series. This was the first time I'd seen one in person.
Race rc cars?
Everybody here should check out Call of the Wild at Kalamazoo Mi. Worlds fastest 3/8 mi race track. or Andy Bozel world track record.
I will take a look at it. Thank you for the recommendation!
@@highoctanecards normally Call of the Wild is run every year Damn covid this year! There are a lot of videos from Kalamazoo Outlaw Late Models.
I was there when he set the record at Kalamazoo Speedway.
Man pulled up in a billboard and said ight I'll break a record
They run these on dirt late models quite often in Michigan. Billboards, air dam, and side wing are some names I have heard them called. Excellent for keeping your speed in the corners, not much of a help on straight aways. I am surprised so many folks have never seen these! I know they are less common now, but through the late 80's and early 00's I saw them quite often!
They used to have a series for Mods in the mid 2000's as well that traveled the state. Granted mostly the west side of the state though. For the mods they would put late model tires on and some would put sprint car wings on instead of the fiberglass side wings.
@@cameronwiseman8598 I think I remember something like that at Crystal Speedway back in like '06. Might be wrong. I cannot remember for certain if it was, but fairly sure it was Crystal. Loved that track!
@@JBSampson88 thats Crystal motor speedway, yes I have seen the winged lates like this on video there as well, watching video of it reminded me of the banking at the old avilla raceway in indiana, remember seeing the mention of crystal on the sod series sprints schedual, it stuck out to me as it was around the time crystal pepsi was in production so I pictured crystal as this prinstine top rate paved track, and of course the ubiquitus pepsi sponsoered clock on the back wall of the consessions stand heh, turns out its just an ol dirt track built in the 60's near crystal lake in michagan in the middle of the state.
though the announcer mentionins gary fedawa ah that takes me back, he was team mates with bill tyler bryan the silver crown drivers brother he was the one I would cheer on when at the track and my cousin would cheer on gary, we werent hank lower fans but he was from angola and was quite good as well a ledgend on the small indiana and michagan tracks never met hank in person though but saw him on the track many times on those summer nights at avilla and baer field, and then angola, angola is the only one still running thats near by, avilla was shut down by the city for noise, and baer field well the owner died and his sons in colarado didn't renew the lease that a distant relation on moms side had and was running the track, it was supposedly bought by gm and will be used as a test track or that was the plan but now they say the 1/2 is too small for their needs, though some local racers were looking to buy it before gm did and return racing to it but it needed work not having been paved since 1997 and the facilites needing much repair, and just as it was starting to get some good shows, and even run some dirt courses in the middle of the infield with dirt bikes and maybe micro sprints or full size not sure but remember seeing winged sprint like cars on the website when it was in operation in 2019 but my wishes to start going to races came too late for that season and then all that happened good news is the track and stands as of august are still intact so if gm decides to resell it there is always the remote chance, but its likely if they dont use it they will just rip it up and build more stupid wearhouses or auto salvage back there :{
I'm just making a guess... but I wouldn't say the wing helped as a wing per say I'd put my money on the fact that it added more weight to that side of the car... but I dont round track race either jus my best guess
I would agree with you, as the track is only 1/5 of a mile. I think I calculated the speed to something like 65 mph.
@@highoctanecards it works as a side dam I race oval amd we call them billboard's when going through the corners it gives the race car more mechanical grip by putting more side bite on the right side tires to keep the cars speed up as high as possible in the corners and the side effect of more corner speed means more speed down straightaway that's why it is heavily braised lile it is. If it was just for weight they would just add led blocks by bolting them the frame of the car it's for more side bite to dig in the right side tires even more and helps keep bite on the left tires as well cuse I prevents the little bit of roll the car would have with out it and keeps left side tires in the track as well
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What in the world??? I'm going to have to do some research on this one.
I'm not real sure what they actually are, but it was a little different looking than what I'm used to
Thank you for the information
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This is like men in girls swimming.
i was there in the family section
I was on the backstretch. It was a great night of racing last night for sure. Thanks for watching
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It looks like a giant window on the side of the car..wHaT?!!?
It's was crazy, first time I've ever seen it before.
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I was in pits this car is originally for dirt track racing
Nice. All I know is that car was hauling that night.
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What size track is the Speedrome? Looks like maybe a 1/4 mile track?
It's a bit shorter. It's 1/5 of a mile.
I go there quite often. It's a 5/8s mile :)
@@Giveittome2012 That is odd, as that would make it bigger than Bristol, which clearly it is not. Also, their website lists the Speedrome as 1/5 mile.
It's 1/5 mile track. Indianapolis Raceway Park is 5/8 mile
Why these car got scoreboards on them ?
I'm not sure exactly, I think it had to with weight distribution and aerodynamics.
@@highoctanecards they should sell it as “billboard space” or maybe the score of the town local HS Football Team ?
@@BillBondsHasAPosse cant use it for sponsorship decals and space gotta be able to see through it especially during a outlaw super latemodel race which is what this car is gotta see man and it's to push more force on the left side of car to keep.it onto the track on right sides to keep corner speeds up and that reflects into faster straightaway speeds this car with out would be half a second slower
And they say Formula 1 are the only innovators
That car looked crazy and it was moving quickly. Yes even local guys have some interesting ideas.
Us local drivers are very innovative and keep it a secret till tech guy finds out then find a new way around the rules it always a fight between us drivers and car owners against the tech guy to see how much we can get away with. Asphalt or dirt sprint car takes more talent to drive then a indy or f1 car due to no computers in these cars no traction control just straight up power and drivers talent
@@youknoweverything7643 What modern Indy or F1 car has traction control?
@@AmbientMike they have systems to help with tire soin it's not a true traction control but ask any indy car driver or f1 driver the ones that have tried to race a 410 winged sprint car will tell you that uts alot harder and takes more skill to run one on dirt and asphalt then a f1 car due to the simplicity of the sprint car no computers can't adjust motor and turning on the fly with the steering wheel buttons all you got is a mirror just for left side spotting on dirt no rear view mirror and you can adjust the wing manually or with a button electronically as your racing on asphalt when I Ran a few races iin a 360 asphalt sprint car on a huge inside half mile track with a ton of banking we never lift at all and slide the wings straight for the straight away then tilt them on entry for down force so we can get more speed down straightaway less drag when the wing is flat it's sketchy doing it cuse the car gets really light and feels like it's gonna take off like a airplane then once you tilt it on entry you can feel the suspension compress when you tilt wing for down force and you can feel it makes your stomach feel very heavy weird feeling for first few races. On dirt I just left wing alone you need the down force so you don't spin tires on straightaway and the tires to dig in as hard as you can get them to down straights for more grip which means more speed and less tire spin lol tony Stewart has even said if you can drive a sprint car well enough to place top 5 on eberage then you can drive a indy car in the indy 500 and be able to habdle and drive the car like it's nothing after a few laps to get use to it. That is why sprint cars was invented is to get guys ready for indy car racing using sprints midgets and silver crown cars
@@youknoweverything7643 Ive watched F1 for years and ive never once heard of a system to help with tire life, why did you say traction control in the first place? I think you are misguided on how much the steering wheel controls the car, fuel maps and differential locking are not a driver aid, and doesn't make it easier.
"and slide the wings straight for the straight away then tilt them on entry for down force so we can get more speed down"
^you are literally just describing DRS, one of the 'buttons' that F1 drivers have, which is no less of a aid that what a F1 has.
I completely agree with you that it takes immense skill for any motorsport (especially dirt ovals) but spreading fake facts about other disciplines is just rude.
Intended target for 911 attack.
What did I just watch?
A crazy winged car setting a n....you read the title lol.
The things racing fans and racers do for entertainment. He was on it though
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It was a blast. They had several classes racing last night.
The fastest lap of 10.753
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