2008 CBR600RR 520 Conversion Kit Install and Test Ride + New 12 Spoke Wheels!
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I'm glad you're still giving the CBR some love after getting the beamer.
Of course!
@@HeroRR was the 954 faster than this 600??
@@HeroRR did you use the front wheel spacers from the 2008? I tried to do thison my 07 with 2019 rims and the brakes didn didn't seem to fit but I used the 2019 wheel spacers.
@@HeroRR let me know if you ever want to sell the cbr
@@FirstLast-tx3yj Oh yeah
Your channel is quite unique, you make it simple, easy, clear ... etc and without heavy montage like music and stuff.
I agree with you. I block those idiots making videos with loud music in the background.
I can see why Chrisfix is very successful.
Another great video. Great bike and great choice with the Speed O' DRD. I added it to my 2006 VTX1300C years ago and never looked back. I still need to add it to my 2006 CBR1000RR as it was of a bit off too, but oddly enough was mostly corrected within 2 MPH by going with a 190/55 Q3 tire with stock gearing (sprockets). So, I've been lazy about getting to adding the DRD to the CBR, but I need to get it done. Thanks for showing how easy and no need to pull tank, airbox, etc. off to plug it in.
Great choice with the Lightech Chain Adjusters. Although, I'm very jealous as I couldn't find any for my 2006 CBR1000RR. Apparently, they stopped making them for my model/year or else I would buy them in a heartbeat. Can't believe you found them for your 2008 CBR600RR. Congrats! I know you'll love em. Just wish I could find some too.
Been thinking of getting an older CBR600RR, probably like yours, 2008 or so. Not saying 600's are slow by any means, but light and fun is where it's at these days. Why else would factories be focused on the mid range these days, right? Although, to me nothing beats a V4 sound, but parallel twins come close. Music to my ears. LOL
Keep on keeping on brother.
Great video bro, very consise and straight to the point, I love this format. Keep up the good work.
Shout out to honda for putting all those cooling hoses directly where you need to work.
@HeroRR I always enjoy your videos. All information you give is straight up from no BS.
ive never had rust on any of my chains since using a Scottoiler. my rsv4 chain is still looks new after 25k miles. ill definitely be ordering one for my new mt10 with all the trips i plan to take next year.
Enjoy your videos ! Im currently riding a 2006 Cbr1000rr with the same colors. Love the bike. Keep up the great work.
Not sure why I’m just now discovering your channel, but thank you!
The video is awesome mate. This gives me the confidence to do this on my Bird. Just done the rear tire so will be good to do chain and sprockets next!. Your bike looks good with these wheels. Keep ‘‘em coming.
Thank you so much!
Love when u do these videos man they are very informative
About time the 600 gets some love. Would’ve thought a 520 conversion would be one of the first mods done. I based my 600 build off of yours. I did a few things different and used some different brands but extremely similar.
Need to get you some Bonamici rear sets with the red toe and shifter peg inserts! Also, a Driven Halo keyless gas cap would be a nice addition!
Good stuff man, this is my fav moto channel on yt
Wow, with the new Corvette and BMW I'm glad that your first love is finally getting some attention!
I always just cut completely through the old chain with an angle grinder. Saves a lot of time and it's trash anyway. And I recommend you keep an eye on those rear sprocket bolts. They always come loose on me eventually if I don't use blue loctite.
Used clip style link on my vf750c. Not a single issue and very little chain stretch on my CZ Gold. After a few miles, I got the courage full throttle pulls then forgot about it. Love this chain. It's not stretching.
At the time of this service I had a taller rear tire profile do to availability. Hated this tire from the start. Replaced tire with standard profile and went with a 1 tooth count sprocket change performance. I have my bike back. 500 rpm more at 65mph. Better milage. Better performance. It's a very happy Magna
Glad it's worked out for you! Hopefully it continues to. Unfortunately it only takes 1 time to have a problem and it could be the end of your life, a gamble I wasn't willing to take.
I just personally wouldnt risk it.
Riveting aint hard anyways.
Thumbs up for literally one of the best sport street bikes ever made!
When u consider
Price. Performance. Reliability.
Damn hard to beat
Great channel it would fabulous to see step by step how fix new and old bikes
just a tip from an old salty rider whos streched a couple new chains trying to get stuck sprocket nuts off the countershaft, break your front sprocket nut loose before breaking the chain. this way you can keep it in gear and have a fat buddy sit on it and press the rear break instead of trying to get a special tool or jam something in there. if youve done the bike before it may not be necessary but ive seen factory countershaft nuts practically fuse to the sprockets and threads
Awesome how to bro learning so much from you 💪💯
Yeap! I have got GSX-R 1000 recently, but whenever I am on my zx6r ninja it's fun, agile, precise. Love it.
OH!! I hadn't even thought to try using my steam cleaner to get off the chain gunk buildup. Good idea!
Love to see you still giving the 600RR attention out here. I love my 2008 and did the same -1 in the front with a 520 chain two years ago. It really did open the bike up a bit, but I might go back to stock when I need a new chain. I daily the bike a lot, and the throttle is way more twitchy with the mod, which is fun..but dangerous to my license.
And while it doesn’t offer “more” power, it does shift the torque curve towards the bottom end, boosting the acceleration a bit.
It doesn’t modify the torque curve anymore than it changes the power.
Engine output remains the same, torque and power curves are unchanged. It’s just like you’re in a slightly/fractionally lower gear than you would otherwise be.
@@Gnerko123 Thus supplying more torque to the wheel at lower RPM, and less at higher. It’s basically a higher gear ratio, which shifts the torque curve lower for more acceleration and less top speed.
@@JesterMasque torque curves are generally defined before the transmission, at the crank or the flywheel. Transmission ratios don’t influence this.
Even if you define wheel torque as a function of engine rpm, wheel torque is raised throughout the rev band, not decreased at higher rpm.
@@Gnerko123 I’m referring to wheel torque as could be read on a dynograph, which is the majority of my experience with this. Wheel torque doesn’t not always increase through the rev range, that would be more applicable to power ratings. Torque can peak in the low/mid-range and stay constant with slight drop off in the higher the revolutions. When a sprocket (the final gear ratio) is changed, you can see that peak torque is achieved earlier or later in the rev range. The torque curve shape & approach may not change much (if at all), but the peak will certainly change positions on the X axis.
@@Gnerko123 The same can be said about when you are in a lower gear (high ratio). You achieve peak torque lower in the rev range, but the top speed it reduced. Power ratings (such as HP, kW etc) will not be affected, as that is the engine’s ability itself to climb RPM’s and continue to torque the driveline.
Great video. i like the controversial insite..and the missed instructions. As a enthusiast that has owned a zx14r you cannot be saying people are haters for scoffing a 600. If one rides solely to feel the pain of shoulders and elbows becoming unattached then a flickable sub 400 lb bike is not our bike. ty for another fun bike class HRR.
just so you know : he said "people saying negative things on 600 speed wise" not "pain in the shoulders wise" lol
but yeah different bikes suit different people with different expectations
I have changed the chain & sprockets on my Gen6 VFR800 multiple times; I just use bolt cutters to remove the old chain. I have not had to change the chain on my CBR600RR yet but I will most likely have the shop do that since it's my Track Bike
I did the -1 +2 on mine, great around town and in the hills, but sits on 6500 to 7000rpm on the Highway at 60 to 70MPH.
I want to know more about that steam cleaner thing! Awesome video :)
I really need a pair of those 12 spoke wheels..
Like you said grind the chain rivet roughly about where you are using your chain tool in the video, it's much easier. I use a D.I.D. tool and it works phenomenally.
clip links are fine if installed correctly!!!!!!!! had tons of bikes quads dirt bikes three wheelers with clip style and never had a problem.
damn bro, really good video. taking the extra time to show us every step takes a lot of patience while fixing a bike in the heat. this project would have gave me a headache, still worth it??
That's all i wanted to hear...which is your favorite. Glad the CBR600RR is still the fav :)
the 600 is dope, shoulda done the 520 kitnon day 1 boi
I just did a 520 Conversion on my 2012 CBR, I kept the stock gearing. I did weigh everything before I put it on and the main weight savings came from the chain. Saved about a pound overall.
Was there a tangible performance increase?
@@TheBadMadMan786 If you are going to replace the chain and sprocket, go with a 520. I wouldn't change it just for the performance increase though. I would go with a lightweight sprocket if you want every bit of power out of it.
@@SSmoothS70 Thanks, yeah I am due to replace my chain and front sprocket, rear sprocket looks the same as it's always looked but it's 525 steel. I have ordered a 520 chain, front and rear sprocket. The gearing will remain the same, 2007 CBR600RR 16T/41T (stock). I know it's tall, but that's how I like.
@@TheBadMadMan786 I stuck with stock gearing as well. My 2012 put 110 hp to the rear wheel on the dyno.
8:44 I tough you were going to say: "It was at this moment I knew... I f ed up".
i always run into guys with big 1 liter ducatis or BMWs... and they always come up to me and say they learned on a CBR600rr and they miss the bike. im keeping mine for life too. either she, we or i go... lol.
Used the same tool on mine would recommend adjusting the tole cause it don’t wanna work well
Follow every single of your videos man🙌👍
Totally the way to go with a (-1) on the front sprocket leaving the rear alone for the street. These engines are stressed enough as it is and (+2) in the rear would really be taxing the engine. Awesome video as usual.
Man I love Gen2 CBR600RR so much. I'm thinking about hitting up Facebook marketplace to pick up one of these babies.
It actually does give you more available wheel torque to ground so you are increasing hp at the wheel at lower rpm’s
At a given rpm, wheel power is the same. Wheel torque is slightly higher, but wheel speed is decreased accordingly such that wheel power remains equal.
At a given road speed in a given gear, yes wheel power can be higher due to higher engine rpm. But then again, you could also achieve this by downshifting.
Missed this after the beamer vids !
I noticed tht about ur gear box too I was like arnt u in 6 and its still saying 5
I've changed in the past,on a gsxr,the chain with 520 and lasted only 10000km.
I suggest to lube it more often in order to last longer
Is 520 a weaker chain? Idk much about this. I realize you can save some weight here, some rotational weight. But I wouldn't do that myself. Broken chain could end your whole career.
@@boycottjews usually it's used at racing.On normal roads,I think 525 it's a good choice,if you wanna do minimum 30000 km
@@2WheelsRoadTraveler I just don't want to get stranded or arrested because my chain pops off at a horrible time.
@@boycottjewsarrested for a chain?
The writing on that front renthal doesn't always go on the outside like people will tell you. I've heard someone say renthal says that too. If you put the larger spacer side on the outside on 2008 600/750s it will be aligned incorrectly and give you problems soon. you can use a digital calliper and see how many mm the oem sprocket sit from the case & then you put the sprocket on whatever side is closest. on my 750 putting the writing on the outside would've resulted in it being 1.50mm out of alignment. whereas writing in was within 1 10th of a mm.
You said that its more fun with 600cc than with more powerful bike and I must say it's true. I had cbf600sa, cb650r before and now I've switched to 2022 cb500x. Only 50hp but inline 2 engine with instant torque just from leaving the clutch makes me more excited about motorcycling. Less fuel consumption, more comfortable, great sound even if it's 500cc, offroad capabilities opened my mind too. I've found that bike must be tried in real life by a rider, not by sponsored youtubers that can say only how bad it is. We moto guys forget to say what is good even with the worst bike. Cbr600rr was criticised in my country so much, because it's only 600cc. 1000cc guys now don't have money to ride or just are broken so much that they have not enough money to fix. 600cc sportbikes are the best sport bikes. Honda makes it extremely reliable and don't broke wallet that much like for example s1000rr. I watch You for long time and must say that You are real world moto guy, who really likes bikes 👍 i like it!
CBR600 top speed 185mph
Don’t need no 1000cc
I still have 525 chain but
went down one in the front on a 2006 gsxr 750 and it made a noticeable diffrence for sure. Ill take the acceleration over top speed never gonna go 165mph. Never had an issue with the gear indicator though.
My gear indicator is aftermarket. It is calibrated by setting the rpm to each gear. When I changed the gearing it out everything out of wack lol. I just need to recalibrate. Not a big deal. :)
@@HeroRR Ahh gotcha that makes sense glad its an easy fix for you 🙂
I went down 1 on my front as well on my 2009 cbr600rr
If I may ask where did you buy the red fairing Kit for your CBR 600rr? I recall you having it orange. I have a red oem 08 want to replace fairings . Appreciate all your work 🙏🏻
Hey buddy! What a good work firstly! I want to ask you if you had any issue with the wheels, If i don't get wrong these wheels come from a CB650R from 2020? (Sorry, me listening is so bad...) And i'ts plug and play or you need to do some major modifications?¿
Exactly the -1 front or +2 on rear is like loosing top gear . Great acceleration until that point. Hwy riding is a higher rev range & bit annoying
And all I can do is watch bike videos because up here in Norway we have had ONE DAY of decent riding weather this may. It was a good day of riding but still....
I just want to know why you might want to convert to 520. What reason did you have?
Man that looks killer,do you think these rims would fit on a 2006 cbr600rr?..been wanting to do this forever now
I'm not sure sorry, I think you might need spacers. Check the forum.
Good Day sir may I ask what mirrors do youhave on your bike . Eg 2009 cbr1000 .
Hero yoshi rs5 on cbr 600rr sound. Best or leo vice sbk. Or mivv souno or toce or two bro
0:36 ‘Link’ in the description . . .If you’ll pardon the pun.
So stock 2020 cbr 600rr rims bolt directly up to the 2008 gen motorcycle? Looking to get new rims for my 2010.
Next time you should put a master link on not a river type chain connection because now if you need to take chain off you need to cut it again vs master link you can just remove
Hello there. I'm qualify my comments with many years with Bikes/ Motorbikes/ Motocycles...( whichever is your chosen vernacular ) both as rider, enthusiast and Mechanic/ Builder and Restorer.
Not many go to such lengths to qualify their work as you did. Measuring the side chain width to determine and confirm correct side plate position is an absolute, but most don't do it; they then cannot understand why their bike feels strangely held back by a pinched chain link... Measuring the pin distortion is also correctly done. Full marks! The only thing i would've done that you didn't was to put a small pair of dots on the Gear linkage connector. That way you'll be sure to replace on the correct spline. I believe that this could be why your gear indicator reads incorrectly through misalignment of one spline in the shaft. Your bikes Revs are not the determining factor of gear nomenclature, rather leaver position.
I applaud your work.
Remember to go back after a hundred miles or so and check tension, alignment and torqued fasteners.
Best regards,
Eddie
Thank you. I appreciate your comment so much. My gear indicator is aftermarket and it is actually based off the revs. Because the -1 sprocket threw off the revs it caused the gear indicator to be incorrect. I’ve already recalibrated and it’s working correctly again :)
@@HeroRR Great info - thank you for the insight!
Hope you're day is good; Mugello MotoGp.
Predictable but sad news about Marc Marquez don't you think.
Aye Mate,any chance you could tell me the quadlock system you've got on this bike,want one but unsure what's the best one for my bike(same bike) thanks Bra
Love my 520 conversion on my 09 CBR600RR!! Makes a big difference for sure.
Hey HeroRR just want to say your the reason I got my CBR600RR. After watching yours 2 years ago , I was sold! I also follow you on the gram. Same name as this one.
Why did you cut the chain? I did the same thing you did and now mine is too short. I also went with the same chain kit
Best bike ever!!
Are those mirrors from 1KRR? Do you have an installation video?
Anyone ever had issues with the valve seal blowing repeatedly on their or a CBR600RR?
Every bike has a difference with the speedo!
Do you have the link to the steam cleaner?
You ever gonna sell this beauty
How much teeth u go on the rear sprocket
I love my rc51..but my zx6r is more fun to ride..be safe out there brother
I see what you're saying. The RC sounds so amazing, but when it comes to actually riding a motorcycle the 600 is just more fun and way easier.
Hows your wheel feels like when you ride? Im thingking of upgrading the wheels on my stock 2016 R6.
Feels as good as the last one. A little smoother. Probably due to the newer bearings.
There's no link to the chain tool..
Power and speed isn't always the best thing/top priority.
I daily drive a FN2 Civic Type R and they're not known for power and speed, but it is plenty quick enough for the real world. Revving it out to 8000rpm, hitting VTEC is such a wonderful thing.
CBR600RR is next 😁
I have the same bike and run -1,+1(15/43). I have always loved it. I just can't go past 150 mph. Anyone know if this is normal?
You sacrificed some top speed for acceleration
Hi could you please make a video on people riding without license and insurance? The dangers of it and stupid that is?
Dude, 600s are beast.
I may or may not even upgrade to a 1k. I have an 05 f4i now and I'll either get a r6 or zx6r. I can use more of the full power of the 600 vs a 1k.
#600gang
What chain breaker is that?
So do the 2013+ wheels just bolt straight up to a 07-12?? Might make the same mod to my 07 cbr
Yeah
No threadlock?
What no lightweight 520 chain
Why did you go with the 520 conversion vs the oem 525 chain and sprockets?
Wanted to try it. Apparently there’s no real downsides other than the chain will wear out slightly faster. Since I have 4 motorcycles sharing the mileage every year it’s ok for me to take less rotating mass over longevity. And for what it’s worth a lot of people say that the 520 lasts just as long.
I cant find any wheels like that for an 06 😔
What tire do you recommend for the front? I recently purchased one a few months back for my 09' cbr600rr and once I get to a certain speed, my handle bars start to shake/wobble.
My favorite so far is Dunlop Q3+, but the ones that are on my bike now are pretty good since I didn't bother removing the tires off the new wheels and they were 2021 tires.. (sorry I forgot the brand).
i love my q3+
I was always under the impression that you want to leave the chain on and the transmission in neutral with your foot on the rear brake to remove your front sprocket drive nut. So you don't damage your trans in any way. At least that is the way I always do it.
Yeah definitely a smarter way of doing it. Next time I’ll probably do it that way to be careful. But luckily no damage was done :) it’s only 40 ft lb of torque.
@@HeroRR I have mostly Yamaha's and Kawasaki. They seem to like to tighten things until the metal fuses together. 136ft lbs to the rear axle nut on my R1
@@deathwish8339 Wow,THAT is insane torque #'s for that!
@@deathwish8339 that's bonkers
Your bikes engine puts way more strain than torquing the nut in gear. These things are not made of glass.
I love my 125cc ❤️
Hi, can I ask from where you got those 2013+ rims on the bike? its an must have upgrade! for weight and looks....Need that for the bike as well....Thanks in advance!
ebay, used oem 2013+ cbr600rr wheels.
Thank you!@@HeroRR
Was it -1/+2 ?
Does it change the performance of the bike in any way?
I think Faster acceleration with slightly less top speed… sort of like changing the diff gears in a car… at least that’s how I understand it personally
I havent watched the video yet. But I think the idea is you have less weight in the chain, so less rotating mass, so increased acceleration.
I want to race HeroRR so damn bad 😎 (friendly race) we have the exact same bike except mine is orange and black.
Where you at?
@@HeroRR Allentown PA sir. A few hours away from you. We have ALMOST the same mods. Almost… 😎 we both have the Arrow header. Except I went ECU tune and you went with the overpriced Lego block with Social studies maps 🙃. Not sure if yours is Dyno tuned yet. But mine isn’t yet either.
I’m the CBR that was shocked that I got the MotoDynamics headlights before you. And mine have the turn signal blinkers which I think are VERY useful. Honestly I would like to put our bikes together to give viewers the best views of the best 600cc sport bike 😎 some people like Fruity Pebbles and others like Trix 🤷🏽♂️🙌🏽😂
How did you let your chain get to that point though?
I stored my cbr in the shed over the winter and there was a leak. Both the vfr and cbr chains got rusted. I replaced both.
@@HeroRR Ahhh.... thanks for the explanation. It's so far out of my lexicon as a ride all year.
Nice Job , but since you have the angle grinder out just cut the chain in half
Wanted to minimize the amount of sparks flying everywhere, the tool takes a little longer but it's a cleaner job.
Hey HeroRR ... I have a red 07 CBR600RR with the factory 3 spokes... Is there any other parts at all that are necessary to put the 2020 wheels on or will they simply bolt on perfectly?
Thanks
Bolts right up perfectly.
@@HeroRR Thnx 👍🏻
@@HeroRR Hey Hero, ... I just called my Honda Dealer here in arctic hillbilly 🇨🇦 and they just quoted me $2200 for the front rime and $2400 more for the rear... Where did you get yours and would they ship to Canada do you know? I'm sorry but $3700 USD or 4600.00 CAD for factory non Carbon Fiber wheels is stupid.
Hey bro... Thought I'd ask 1 more time... 👍🏻🙂 ... Are your new wheels OEM Authentic Honda wheels or Aftermarket ie: Arashi ?
Thank You
Did you recently replace your fairings again?
no, but im thinking about refreshing them.
I have an older r6 I bought crashed and cheap because it what I could afford to get riding. Id love to get a cbr but its just not in the cards
Hopefully one day, at least you're riding something!
The new wheel looks so light weight
I didn’t weigh it. But it didn’t feel any lighter than the original. However it certainly looks much nicer!
@@HeroRR I'd of honestly run it with the original front so people could tell that rear was an upgrade. Lol drift car style with the front not matching the rear.
But yeah it looks good.
you need to remove another link or two.. new chain is pretty close to the replace chain area.. center of axle should be well within the "new" area.. just fyi..
Wheelbase length is a tuning feature. Shorter is more agile but less stable, longer is more stable but changes direction slower. Just fyi..
I don't know, I just went with the OEM number of links for the 520. Maybe I should have added a link? Oh well i'm sure it will still last a long time.
@@HeroRR remove a link or two at most.. remember,,,, when you took off old chain it is old and was "stretched"... count links to verify if you still have old chain... you might have 1 maybe 2 extra on the new one... but either way the center of axle should be in the new zone..... lookint at your new one on the vid it seems its in the replace zone.... dont want to have to replace in 7k miles when you could get 15-20k+ miles out of it..
@@Jammin6796 That sticker is just a guide for dummies when to replace chain, as long as he keeps chain cleaned, lubed, and adjusted and he doesn’t run out of room in the swingarm, which he won’t. I’m literally a professional tech at a dealership, and also do track days 1-2 times a month. Just to put my words into context.
Much better wheels
Nice work Hero!! The new wheels look dope! Question though. Why not use ur impact to remove the spocket from the rear wheel? 😁 additionally, at 16:28 nice recovery brother! Cool and collective! 😎
Thanks for all the info
Thanks, I didn't use the impact because the breaker bar was closer. lol
YES! All cars are trying to kill you 16:35 ! haha I agree!
Riding the 1000 make ya want to go faster on your 600?
Yeah it does honestly. You finally get a chance to rev something out so you start doing it lol.
@@HeroRR Well try it all and we are all watching and enjoying, keep up the good work...