K1 and the Freight Train, Welsh Highland Railway 7th-8th September 2013
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- A celebration of the return to steam of K1, the world's first Beyer-Garratt locomotive. This video shows the loco hauling the South African freight stock. Many thanks to the K1 Group, the Wagon Team and the organisers of the 'Superpower' event for making these scenes possible; this video is for you. Filmed by Dave and Tom Waldren. See our other video of other trains at the 2013 Superpower event.
I have watched this video when I was younger, this is true nostalgia to me.
Well, thank you for posting such a kind comment. It is great to know that our efforts are appreciated, and it gives us huge encouragement! Cheers, Dave
Very impressive! Shows what can be done on a very narrow gauge - the engine looks to be working hard, but enjoying herself!
Excellent locations and camera angles! My first ride on WHR was behind K1 which I was told was a Garratt - not Beyer-Garratt. It's a wonderful railway and a credit to all who re-created it over the years.
Really great to see K-1 running again and in such lovely scenery. Thanks for making and posting for our enjoyment.
Great to see K1 at work. "B" wagons and brake van also a memory-stirring sight. Many thanks, Cutting Edge!
Very nice HQ video, beautiful piece of machinery and noticed also the flawless heavy duty track.
Wish We had enough room to preserve this girl back here in tassie, I'd love to see her back here.
I would love to see her back here. There just aren’t enough Railways here, but the WCWR is good enough for now.
IngLouisSchreurs it’s called personification and we as a human race have been doing it for hundreds of years. So I’ll gladly refer to her as a she
It was built here,and,if it had been left in Tasmainia,it would certainly been scrapped by now.
mark hughes most likely it would become a climbing frame of sorts for kids rather than being scraped. We have quiet a few like that, Margate, someplace near queenstown, probably a few in Hobart and one in don. It’s a thing we like to do for some reason
An exceptional piece of footage - great locations along the line! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for posting this fine video of K1 at work. She looks a treat and is a credit to the team who have brought her back to steam again.
Fantastic video! Really enjoyed that, please keep 'em coming and thank you for posting your efforts.
Superb photography!
Thanks Steve! Dave
Thanks for your comment. The problem is only apparent on some computers - it's caused by one of the external microphones which is a mono 'shotgun' type - when I render into 2 channels from the 5.1 on the cameras it should come out of both channels and does in almost all computers but for some unfathomable reason it is muted on a small number of sound cards. I will have to get a different mic to eliminate it. Glad you liked the footage though! Cheers; Dave
SUPERB A most enjoyable video.
north East Dundas tram! i used to live and work alongside her first workplace. West coast Tasmania.
Interesting; no we weren't aware of these locos; I will look them up. Thanks for letting us know. Cheers, Dave
Many thanks for posting such a kind comment. We certainly will keep them coming! Cheers, Dave
A beautiful restoration. So glad to see it steaming so well. In reality it is the first and second Garratts. Tasmania had K1 and K2. When they were starting to show their age, the best parts of the two were combined to make one good unit and the rest scrapped. I think it consists of the boiler from K1 and the motion gear from K2, but I am happy to be corrected. Still wonderful to see it in excellent hands and treated so well.
Only two were ever built
Earliest models of the great Garratt engines had pistons in the main engine. The connecting rods then moved the wheels of the front and rear articulated / attached sections .
Nice job of restoration. Very pretty.
It's nice to see a steamer hauling freight for a living.
What an interesting loco on such a magnificent narrow gauge railway!
Great, thank you for posting. I'm definitely going to visit having seen this clip. :)
Glad you enjoyed it, Bill. Unfortunately, K1 is not a used in everyday service, although the larger NGG16 Garratts are. It is a wonderful railway in every respect, and I'm so glad this video has inspired you to visit; this is what we set out to do when we started this channel; publicising and promoting our favourite railways. Therefore your comment is very pleasing! Thank you. Best Wishes, Dave
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Cutting Edge Video Thank you for the information we too have a NN/N16 Garrett for our Puffing Billy Railway currently under gauge conversion to 2 ft 6inch But in a lot of respects the railway itself is similar to yours. About 17-18 miles in length with tortureous curves It is nice to see K1 at least kept operational if not in front line service. Many happy steaming days to you and your crews. 😁😁🇦🇺
At Ushuaia, Argentina, there is a 2 foot gauge line running into the National Park. Two of its locomotives are Garratts built to the same design as the K1. One was built in South Africa & the other in Argentina.They are similar to the K1 only in that the cylinders face inwards & are simple expansion locos. One is fitted with a Lempor exhaust system & both perform sterling service on tourist trains. The other locos are tank engines. Well worth seeing.
I see they kept the South African Railways on the freight wagons. Cool.
Great Video! I don't know if you are aware of it but at Ushuaia at the bottom of Argentina, the Tren Del Fin Del Mundo has two Garratts on the same style as the K1. Cylinders facing inboard. One was built in South Africa & one in Argentina. Two little beauties. Noel Tyler
Hi John, she certainly does. At the Society AGM recently the Company General Manager seemed keen to find a way of giving her a role in the future, bearing in mind the 'NG16 policy' currently in place on the Railway. Cheers, Dave
Fantastic, K1 certainly looks good in steam. The was loco built for the now well and truly defunct 2 foot gauge North East Dundas - Zeehan line in Tasmania, would have liked it to still be in Tassie but it certainly looks at home in this video, great job of restoration. Thanks for a really interesting and scenic video.
Many thanks for your comment, Gary. Cheers, Dave
Put into service on the Tasmanian Government Railways in 1909. Note that the rear cylinder is under the cab floor, this made the cabs very hot and all subsequent Garratts had the rear cylinder under the coal bunker (or oil tank) .
Not only a beautiful restoration on the loco but very nice track work.
Very nice video. I grew up in times when steam locos were still used on mainlines - maybe not everyday sight, but nothing out of ordinary either. Nice to see its revival, even if only as "tourist" or "occasional" trains (well, I guess that's the best option anyway, for everybody) - and the narrow gauge and highlands only adds to the nostalgic atmosphere. Great video, really nice to watch, keep it up, guys!
Thanks for your kind comment; very kind. It's quite an old video - we are amazed how popular it is! We will try and make more videos in 2019. Best Wishes, Dave & Tom.
She gets a real gallop on !!! Lovely to see . Wales UK.
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Love that whistle, sounds very American
Great clip's but one some of them I am not getting sound but on othere's there is sound. Random but still. thank you very much for up loading. real great clip's.
What a magnificent little engine well worth bringing back from south africa
It came from Tasmania, Australia.
I want it back!
The garrets are ex SAR not this one
Charles Dickens would have loved the title of your very interesting e Post.-- Regards
a real Victorian teakettle
I would beg to differ, but you kinda have a point and it has wheels and pistons :P
What is the "NG16 policy"?
thanks for a very interesting train. The scenery is especially super. I am afraid that what I have heard about the north of Wales is not very nice but this changes that. :)
Thanks for your comment. North Wales has many wonderful railways and has a diverse and beautiful landscape. But don't take my word for it; come and see for yourself :-) Cheers, Dave
Mae Gogledd Cymru yn bendegedig. A Dw i'n Saesneg o Fanceinion/
North Wales is wonderful. And I'm English from Manchester
That is British engineering right there!
Very well done! Pity that isn't in Tassie, Please look after it.
For those who miss the sound it's 'choo choo sssss choo choo ssss...'
Nice stereo sound
some of the audio is completely broken. :( but it is awesome! i bet that would run on the tracks at our museum! (dual gauge, 3+2' )
Glad you like it; thanks for your comment. We had a problem with one of our microphones, whereby for some reason, it would not play on a small number of computers. We have since bought a new one! thanks again, and best wishes from England!
Fantastic video. This is the loco from the Bush Mill Railway near Port Arthur? Used to be green. Had a ride on it down there. Shame that place closed after all the hard work they put into it - Big Boys Toys. :-)
Thanks for your comment David; I'm glad you liked it. This loco was built for the North East Dundas Tramway in Tasmania in 1909 where it worked until the line closed. It was then sold to a sawmill before being sold back to the builders, Beyer Peacock of Manchester England in 1947. It was later on display in the National Railway Museum, York, England before being removed for rebuilding in 1995. Hope this helps! Cheers, Dave.
Beautiful pictures, but partly no sound audible.
Thanks for your comment. We used 2 cameras; one of the microphones appeared to render perfectly in 2-channel stereo and plays fine on most PCs and laptops. However on a small number of machines, an d particularly on mobile phones, one of the mics is muted - I never have been able to understand this! However we now have 2 identical mics and the problem is fixed on newer videos. Sorry for this! Cheers, Dave
How can we download this for Tassie
Look at how much yaw there is in that first shot!
Poor K1, it's a long way from it's home on the West Coast of Tasmania. But I guess the climate is similar.
Yes, Bogong. A long way from the North East Dundas Tramway. K1 & K2 - the first ever Garrets.
Once I would never have looked twice at a Garratt, but the ones I was used to were somewhat larger. The central line from Blair Athol through Emerald to Rockhampton was their happy home, I even travelled behind one on the Midlander or maybe it was the "midnight horror", which left Emerald for Rocky about 11pm.
www.petan.net/railway/bgpic.htm
The SAR NG stock is the wrong colour.
Fantastic video and wonderful scenery. I noticed that the video started with a lo0t of condensate (steam) coming from between the boiler at the smoke-box end and the front bogie in the area of the cylinders. At 2.46, I noticed what seemed to be a couple of puffs of condensate coming from the top of the smoke-box. Later, watching the engine coming towards the camer (at 14:18, there was a lot of steam condensate showing from the front of the engine. I worked as an engineer for the Mt. Washington Cog Railway in 1970-71 and am very well versed in steam locomotive operation. I realize that is long past the occasion of the video, but it seems to me that the engine was having a steam leak, possibly under the boiler jacket or at the forward steam deliver joint. Does anyone know if this happened? As an aside, I truly enjoy watching Brit steam and have always wondered why the Beyer-Garratt system was not adopted here (US), especially some of the narrow gauge lines out west. Thanks for a great video.
Glad you enjoyed it. The video was taken over a coupe of days with two cameras; the whole thing was edited into some sort of geographical order, so there is some inconsistency in showing the major steam leak which occurred early on and was largely fixed during the weekend. The loco is a compound, but starting can be achieved in high-pressure mode - at 4:24 you can hear the 'simpling valve' being changed to compound mode with a loud 'hiss' or 'snap'! It now resides (and is in excellent order) at the Wonderful 'Statfold Barn Railway' - we have a video of that line too. Regarding the D&RGS - I think they mastered the use of conventional motive power with the incredible K36 and K37 machines - they were extremely robust and were masters of The Rockies! I hope to be back over to see the Colorado lines again soon. Cheers, and Greetings from across the pond. Dave.
@@TomandMattWaldren This is the Cog as of 2007. Old boilers were stayed and 135 psi, new boilers are 250-300 psi. Many improvements to the steam operation were aided by a Brit who now works for the Ravensglass and Eskdale Railway: czcams.com/video/flM3e_c23yA/video.html
i only came here bc this is the origin for garry in SW
Is this the K1 Garratt originally built for the Tasmanian railways in 1909?
1:27 There's something wrong with that scene but I just can't see it.
12:55 Clearly, this lamb didn't read railroad crossing safety advisories. Don't try to beat the train, wait for it to pass.
Not sure how this would happen, but somehow your left and right audio channels are perfectly out of phase with each other.
Hi Ryan, thanks for your comment; one of the mics is mono, and when used on a 5.1 camera is does some weird things - on a small number of PCs the sound is muted from that mic, on others it plays fine. Is that what you mean? I am in the process of getting a second stereo mic. If you encounter a diferent problem let me know. Thanks, Dave
What gauge is that rail? Looks tiny, like 2' (60 cm). If, as stated, the train has gone to Sth Africa, it's likely to be 3'6" (I guess).
+hughvane No, it is 2ft, (just under)
Re guaged to 1ft 11 1/2 inches
The 'main line' gauge in South Africa is 3'6", but they also had a sizeable network of 'narrow gauge' at 1' 11 1/2", which is where the Welsh Highand's NGG Garratts originated.
Is this video available on DVD?
Hi Jim, parts of this and many of our other videos on this channel are available on 'Narrow Gauge Alternative View 2013' available from:
Jon Marsh,
29 Church Lane,
Kimpton,
Hitchin,
Herts.
SG4 8RR United Kingdom.
Thanks for your enquiry; we are thinking about setting up our own video company and this is very encouraging!
Cheers, Dave
Is this loco still operational or has it been replaced by the NNN 16 Garrett from South Africa??
Hi Michael, The mainstay of the fleet has always been the NG/G16 Garratt locomotives; K1 was never intended for 'front-line' use, however it has been out of action for some time now. We look forward to it's return to steam for special events and off-peak services. Cheers, Dave.
The author of the clip, please tell me is the gauge of this line about 600mm, isn't it?
Hello, yes; actually 597mm which is one foot and eleven and a half inches in imperial.
Hello Cutting Edge Video, I am currently working on a podcast featuring K1, please would it be possible to use some of this (with credit and link back to your channel of course)?
By all means - no problem at all! Cheers, Dave.
@@TomandMattWaldren Fantastic, thank you so much!
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Very narrow gauge?
One foot eleven and a half inches - about 595mm...
What exactly is going on? They took the same train to the terminus, turned the loco round and took exactly the same loaded trucks back to the start. It looks like a 1 to 1 railway layout.
This is a "photographic charter" - a special freight train hired by a group of photographers and film makers to capture this wonderful little locomotive at work. It is really just a demonstration. The goods in the wagons are just for "theatrical" effect, and give the locomotive something to pull. The main function of this line is to carry passengers - mainly tourists, but a few local people also use it.
This loco is really to small and not powerful enough to pull the regular passengers trains, which are much heavier, so it only is used on special occasions.
Great video but virtually every other shot is missing the sound!!!
Thanks John. See explanation below - we use 2 cameras and on some PCs and phones the sound from one of the mics did not come through - even though the vid was rendered in stereo and worked perfectly on my PC! I have since bought a pair of better mics... Cheers, Dave
Cutting Edge Video Cheers. Given a like anyway and it shows what a fantastic line it is. Well shot video.
Very kind, John; thanks! Dave
It’s in a museum now isn’t it ???
Yes - recently moved to Statfold Barn, where I am sure it will be well looked-after.
That is not the worlds first Beyer-Garratt. The first one was built in the late 1800's. This one was relatively new when it was retired in South Africa.
Hi Michael, thanks for your comment. K1 (and it's sister K2) were built for the North East Dundas tramway in Tasmania 1909 and is recognised as being the first locomotive built to the Garratt patent, although they differed in arrangement from the original concept (compounding, placement of cylinders at opposite ends of bogie) - see the Wikipedia page under at 'TGR K Class'. There are four much more modern Garratts currently at the Welsh Highland Railway (No's 87, 109, 138 and 140) but these are much larger, NGG16 2-6-6-2 locomotives. No. 143 was the last Garratt locomotive built by Beyer Peacock, built in 1953, although there were several more of this this type built as recently as 1998 by Hunslet Taylor in South Africa. I hope this clarifies things... Cheers, Dave
fantastic sexy ;-))
greets from Romania and Germania
А грузовые тоже для туристов просто так ездят или действительно что то перевозят?
Привет Алексей.
Это «фотографический чартер» - специальный грузовой поезд, нанятый группой фотографов и кинематографистов, чтобы запечатлеть этот чудесный маленький локомотив в действии. Это действительно просто демонстрация. Товары в вагонах служат лишь для «театрального» эффекта и дают локомотиву что-то тянуть. Основная функция этой линии - перевозить пассажиров - в основном туристов, но некоторые местные жители также пользуются ею.
Этот локомотив слишком мал и недостаточно мощный, чтобы тянуть обычные пассажирские поезда, которые намного тяжелее, поэтому его используют только в особых случаях.
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I have just farted in the library but nice shots I am not a troll
Sound very patchy and wierd. Made me think there was something terribly wrong with my tummy!
Hard to believe the world's first Garrett was made in Australia
Yes - because it was made in Manchester, England!