Jobava RAGES after losing to cheater and then messages him
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Chess grandmaster Baadur Jobava (Georgia) loses to a cheater in a titled tuesday chess match, Jobava has plenty to say about the cheater and then messages him.
#baadurjobava #titledtuesday #chess #chessclips
Jobava has been recently banned from tournaments following his behaviour this is why: czcams.com/video/dyA6j5eR5sM/video.html
This is the Ibrahimovic of chess
Sadly football has retired from zlatan
@@dogtaro6038I love the way you worded it, since it cannot be worded backwards lol
“If this isn’t cheating then I am the cheater” 😂
When money is involved, even titled players will cheat
It is how it is
Borislav Ivanov.
This comment aged like fine wine.
@@robertlehman7902 How's that? If you're meaning some cheat scandal happened, those have happened for decades, because when money is on the line, some people cheat.
But this guy rend is not cheating
@@bdpv025 I was replying to someone who said a comment aged like fine wine. I didn't catch the reference, and I added that if he means some kind of scandal happened recently, those always happen in competitive games for money.
Dude I've felt the same way playing bullet against people in the 400's. LOL
yeah but youre super likely to find cheaters there lol. i remember being 600 rated and every second game id get destroyed.
analysis makes it clear.
Then you're basically like Jobava.
@@TechSupportDave one of the best names I've come across ever.
Bullet is Impossible to cheat, come on
@@vicentegoncalves520 youd be surprised what my channel has to offer.
I have liked GM Baadur from a long time, I also follow his stream sometimes, but this video made me like the guy more. Dude's savage 😂😂
You like him because he is a loser and falsely accuses his opponents of cheating after losing? Weird.
@@AKhan0372 I like him because he's one of the most fun-loving GMs I have seen, and plays chess in the most enterprising way. So not weird at all I guess. I also don't judge people on the one-off incidents that they might have had in their lives, I would suggest you do the same, or else no one would even like Hikaru, or Alireza or even Magnus.
@@ChinmayDhake he also rage-closed his lichess account over not winning a rapid shield (because his competitor was paired with a sandbagger). There's not even any prize money at stake in a Lichess Shield. Come on, this guy is nowhere worth liking
@@cedur2163 lol said who? you ? lol
@@Tymczas it was discussed in the forum back then, and well we got recent confirmation of how much of a schmuck he is
"No single fucking mistake! Report!" - Jobava😂😂😂😂😂
“If this is not a cheater, Im a cheater” 🤣
Once pragnanandha played against vidit with a new account. And vidit at first though he is a cheater then prag had to sms him and tell him that he is playing against a GM. Both were doing speedruns with new accounts
@@IchBinDeinGott czcams.com/video/iULVzz2N058/video.html on timestamp 49:13 vidit confirms that it was prag
@@IchBinDeinGott and at 12:05 in that video vidit suspects him to be cheating hecause prag was playing with 1400 rating id and so was vidit in speedrun
@@avikumarirm this guy was cheating
It is not so many time ago that Wesley So accused Alireza of cheating when Alireza was still an unknown guy because he lost against him. I think Alireza was still an IM at that time. May this be a similar case?
It's not, account was new
I accused Aman of cheating when he was just a Fide Master. Next thing you know he gets 3 GM norms in a row and I realized I was wrong
@@adrianma2758 He was wrong? 😅
@@DerickMasai Sorry "I was wrong". Thank you
His account has hacked, Wesley never say that
this is what I want to see in chess streaming, a true hero who speaks his mind and goes for the truth, not just streamers who are silenced and forced to basically act nice and be good, again props to jobava he is awesome and deserves more recognition guys ❤
He didn't go for the truth though. He didn't even do an analysis report to prove his claims. So what's his evidence?
True hero? But he doesn’t even know if the dude cheated and throwing profanity and accurasions. Stupid guy who can’t control his emotions, not a hero lol
I couldn't agree more. I mean, you watch Nakamura on a speedrun, and he is playing against opponents rated like 1500 or something and they play so fast and so accurately... He wins of course (being Nakamura) but he never says a word like 'This guy is clearly a scumbag who is giving his engine some exercise....' when everyone can tell that they are. Oh, by the way, how can you discover 10 cheaters in less than 15 minutes? Just go on Lichess and play in the Hourly Bullet Arena... Pretty much 80% of players in the ranges between 1600 and 2100 are at least part-time cheaters....
@@MrNickmi I’m 2300 on lichess in bullet and I always wonered how can anyone cheat in bullet?
@@vasilijeboskovic5948 Here is your answer... :-) czcams.com/video/_Jg47Gt5CsE/video.html . But even if you do not use this particular software, if you leave the engine on, and it can show you the right move when under pressure... You only need to look at it a few times if you are a reasonably good player...
Me after every lost game:
He didn't cheat, he outplayed you Jobava. You're not even closely skilled in chess as you think. And i know you're watching this video so let me tell you this:
You will keep you vanity for yourself. No one cares about your ego, you are beatable just like everyone else. Just because you lost to someone with lower ratings doesn't mean you lost to cheater.
That account still isnt banned. maybe he wasnt cheating ? or i guess inconclusive evidence he might have cheated those 2 games
Because IM
@@turkiyett0928 Titled players get banned for cheating too.
If you look up the game, the engine says that Jobava just played badly:
1 blunder, 3 mistakes, 2 inaccuracies.
Meanwhile, despite what he claims in this video, his opponent, rend1987, wasn't completely flawless like an engine:
1 mistake, 1 inaccuracy.
Jobava was just salty about losing.
@@GMBethHarmon "Jobava just played badly"
Me with 7 blunders per game: MonkaS
@@GMBethHarmon subtle cheaters exist, just saying. theyre a menance because often they get away with it, especially if theyre higher-rated.
I truly loathe people who cheat in chess in ways words fail to describe. But a titled player cheating is truly something special entirely. That guy's FIDE-rated games should be placed under heavy scrutiny if he was really doing that. There's no such thing as cheating "once". Those with that inferior and pathetic mindset do so frequently.
The reaction of these people in the comment section who defend and promote this abusive behavior tells us why the world is such a bad place to live. It is really interesting how rude and vulgar behavior is promoted as "a true heroe" or someone who "speaks his mind" or the guy is a "savage". He is "ibrahomovic" wow he is so cool because he is loud and rude and does whatever he likes. I miss times when decency and politeness mattered. Nowadays it is boring and politically correct. We need "heroes" who insult other people and call them mofos and bitch. Happy to see that after jobava repeated this vulgar behavior against another player, chesscom took action and banned him for one year from money tournaments.
How is cheating not worse than "being rude".... Who the hell cares about social etiquette. Get your priorities straight
@Meowmeow Civilized people care. And did I say anything about cheating better or worse? Firstly It is not up to jobava to decide who has cheated or not. The website should make that decision. Secondly Someone who cheats should pay the price and so does someone who insults other people. Other people's cheating does not warrant you to open your mouth and say whatever you want.
@@mouwersor cheating happens in games, being rude happens in real life
He didn’t cheat and his account is still active. He just played better and won.
Not saying he is or isn’t, but his account being active doesn’t disprove him possibly cheating
@@alekhinesgun9997 so anybody who has the account sill active is possibly cheating..
If you don't cheat all the time, you may escape the ban. I once played against someone with 100% win rate and all traits of a cheater, so I started the engine after move 2 and beat the mfkr, but I didn't get banned.
@@Andre-pl2vg Literally yes. Lol
Yeah. Jobava just can’t control his emotions. Reminds me of my 400-rated friend who always thinks an opponent is cheating when they take more than a minute to think
Let's go to the beach and have some fun!
Uh, let's go to the beach-each
Let's go get a wave
Stupid Beach!!
1:58 hahahah wtf is wrong with him
😂😭💀
@@MonkeyDIvan your 45
Me after losing a game in lichess to a player lower rated than me ;-), exact same reaction only difference is that I am wrong
Jobava was wrong in this situation as well, his opponent wasn't cheating
@@pahoellyyy lol are you God?
Hilarious. His opponent was probably cheating but Jobava’s reaction is 80’s style! Kind of refreshing to seea guy with no filter these days.
No, he is just like 12yo LMAO
yes, this is my first video i watch from him, instantly my favourite player. Nearly everyone trying to be political correct nowadays is just shit.
@@bobbychess5652 ok bro. It’s a game of virtual chess. What a badass 😭 and I love chess but this is just so corny lol
@@allstar6576 lol i bet you dont play chess competitively or even above rated 1300 for you just to say that
@@polishhamnr1469 whats wrong with 12yos?
its really funny how he was trying to send the message
This has to be the funniest thing I've ever seen. I LOVE THIS GUY!!!
i respect those who openly display their anger and rage in the chess . we need more like Jobava
lol why you will respect someone who lose is cool to an online game?
He sounds like xQc when angry
He didnt cheat, the account is still running and active! Baadur just played incredibly bad this game. After Bc7 and Kd2 he was already lost.
Yeah and he said Kd7 is a weird move when that was so obvious to me? He just wants to take the bishop on c7...
Agree
@@gustavhestholm6027 it's weird cause kings are not attacking pieces in the early / middle game...and also black refused to develop the bishop and played a king move in the middle of the game ...this is just an intuitive feel ... And if you want to sit and calculate why kd7 works then sure but in a blitz / rapid game no one plays weird moves unless it's prepped
You can tell it's a cheater because of time usage. He needed 4s to play mate in 1 which he should be able to premove it since his last couple of moves were designed just for that lol.
Kd7 was not human
I didn't know he streamed. I've studied his games for a long time and use his openings lol.
who is this man, he is the future of chess
A person who is playing chess for years, knows how to cheat, he/she doesn't cheat the full game just on some instances and is able to bypass the cheat detectors
Dude needs to chill. It's only a game. Jobova has anger issues.
Not to mention, anyone can play above their rating every now and then. I’m around 1800 and every now and then I play like a 2100. Sometimes we just have days we’re our brains neurons are firing at 100%.
he is a grandmaster when he sees bs moves only engines do he knows its a cheater
We support you Jobava. You are 100% in the right.
his opponent played better than him and he's just salty because he lost
If this is not a cheater, I am a cheater - jobava
"byeach!"
the guy didn't cheat you have to change the title cuz this is defamation at this point
This beach one thousand percent cheater
That guy was probably not a cheater as his account is still active …
Jobava's just being salty. He should have been banned instead, for insulting his opponent, both live on stream, and through a private message.
Even I don't think an IM would cheat.
GM rated 2600+ has been caught cheated against Wesley so. So don't say IM cannot cheat. If Baadur is saying with so much surety then he probably is, these guys have incredible intuition and can immediately tell which move is human and which move is engine move .
@@abhinandangodiyal170 Jobava's opponent hasn't been banned, so there you have it.
@Unibyte111x is that game on youtube?
To reach 2700 FIDE you have to be exceptionally talented and put insane amount of time and effort into chess. Imagine spending 6 to 8 hours per day for your entire life to obtain the skill. And then, when you need to get some extra money (‘cause 99% of chess player not making much) you get paired up with a guy who just runs the engine on his phone and beats you with no effort whatsoever. How would you feel? And trust me, when super GMs say that a guy is a cheater - he’s 99% a cheater. I mean, when an 1800 makes such claims they might come off quite ridiculous but these guys are close to the limit of human capacities. So when they get that “inhuman strength feeling” it’s most of times would be correct.
Maybe just maybe this was not a cheater... Engine users don't move instantaneously... This guy was almost premoving the last few moves...
Nobody use an engine in time trouble, its mostly the IM playing the last few moves.
No even last few moves time per moves were constant
The dude has a point. why cant they identify and ban these cheaters?
Im not an IM or GM but i saw those moves being normal moves to play in that situation, his opponent wasnt cheating especially during time trouble,,, he will not have enough time to go check the engine and come back play that move instantly,,, jobava was crying like a kid shame on him,,,, if he was really using an engine he will not have the same end game with a knight and rock... dont feel superior to others
If the other person didn't cheat then that person would probably be flattered by this video.
He could have at least ran the analysis report first...
Yeah...in my opinion a false accusation is almost as bad as cheating. I feel like he didn't show the analysis on purpose
Kd7 was a mistake and they missed several checkmates in the endgame.
This bish....🤣🤣
we have witnessed cheating during online chess so many times. No solution to this.
Is this the same guy that created the jabava london?
Late comment but yes
Yea, he didn’t create it first. Rapport did, but it was named after jobova because he played it a lot and created new ideas in the opening to make it fun. Didn’t know he was this salty though.
Rapport played it first and research about it before playing it in a real tournament
Speaking of that, he played it in the game
That was just Magnus’ burner account lmfao
What's game's name in play market???????
The message was absolutely not necessary, whether they cheated or not it's still unclear
They didn't cheat
His name is" rend" wich during history in persian "Hafez" used it for a persons who is close to god or gnostic human being but right now the word "rend " is used for an inferior person
I feel the same way sometimes. I wonder how some of these people find these moves with such time constraints.
Basically most GMs won't take a beating from an unknown nobody😂,can't i just be a brilliant upcoming unknown guy??
He's an IM wouldn't be surprised if he just won fair and square
-- If the checkmate don't fit, you must acquit --
While cheating isn't acceptable in any sport, Jobava's behavior is in very, very poor taste. He's the same guy who turned up on a stream the other day and said "We dance anyways, doesn't matter how we play" (implying that he's magnanimous regardless of how the match goes). It's irrelevant whether he feels that the person was cheating or not, because there's a difference between being upset and speaking in such a tasteless manner. Ah well. The world of chess.
I think you are right, but he is just human. Everybody gets upset sometimes.
Yeah he needs to control his mouth as a famous personality.
@@peristiloperis7789 12 yo handicaped child would agre with you.
what is up with the word ‘beach’
A very classy act by a grandmaster. Makes chess really attractive for everyone.
Do you sympathise with cheaters...? Are you a cheater...? Trust me, you work real hard to earn points then an engine user comes along and sets you back and then you have to start all over again... It's really frustrating...
@@zainquadri1206 But the person in the video didn't cheat.
@@zainquadri1206 there is not proof tho just because someone is lower rated than you doesn't mean that you will win you are just MORE LIKELY to win. And also there is no proof of the guy cheating. You can look at the game if you want also he wasn't banned.
@@zainquadri1206 Jobawa brother LMAO
@@amoghbharadwaj382 yes he did
if u go 2 chess prepare your kind ego to be broken, and also prepare to have fun🤡
what have the beach done?!
Every cheater must be disclosed by moderators. Unless there is a label beside their nickname as this player using a chess engine, they will cheat and cheat shamelessly!!!
400s Be coming at me with the Fisher-Sozin attack book to the 12'th move and sht too
And report back for vulgar insulting xD
Haha badur is great
My dream is to come up with such fresh ideas and style with an opening they add my name to it like the Jobava London.
“T Dolla Catalan” or the “T
Dolla dubious e6b6” has a nice ring to it.
That shirt needs reporting too...
"You cheating mother!!! tell me your name!!!"
Jobava London
Jobavas behaviour is much worse than that IM cheating.
Fam we got a wild rare double digit elo player
So many tossers claiming it's not cheating. The guy was cheating just for this game. This is the reason this cheater is not banned yet.
Kramnik would find that gameplay interesting..
"This guys dont have real profile names" - Exoticprincess 2022.
what's wrong with baadur, he wasn't like this for sure.
Triggered Jovaba
The person has a IM title tho
Bro is he not Grischuk 😅😅 he just looks like grischuk
cheating is curse on online chess.
These r the muthaluvaas jobava
Lets fk their muthaas thugethaa
Bro types slower than my granny 😅
''where cheat?''
--anish probably
Idk about him but I think the guy who he was playing with him has liquid nitrogen level iq
he has a title tho?
Most players who stream learn to just take these kinds of hits even if they are suspicious. You can't win by calling someone a cheat even if they are. You just let the system take it's course. If you report them, you do so when you are NOT streaming. You just look like a poor loser otherwise.
I think someone like Joba a knows what he is talking about. Have these 2 players face over the board and see what happens
My Braincells no longer exits
IM rend1987 goes under name Sayed Javad Alavi Moghaddam and he won the World Under-10 Championship in 1997. His account is not blocked. I have no follow up on Baadur's accusations.
Just a heads-up.
Yeah just a bad loser
Damn he was mad o.O
i think IM was cheating as the account was actually new (2021)
94% accuracy is typical for a IM tho.... some guys who are real good at blitz are able to play almost exact strength of there real self
No, man... 94% is not typical accuracy for IM, especially on that time control. Super GMs like Nakamura dont have 94% in most of their games on 3 minutes.
@@dziendobry9692 look up CAPS 94 is typical for 2400+ (IMs)
@@jaylenlenear3944 I just looked at Nakamura, in last 11 games, he had 94%+ only 2.
You want say, that typical IM plays better than him?
@@dziendobry9692 the official CAPS article says so. Just look it up
you have no idea what youre talking about and youre using different % measures
Mothrker
I don't cheat on bullet but I build a crazy defense system not even attacking any pieces unless I'm forced to hence most of the time I win on time like 10 or 30 secs for a 1 minute bullet lololol
Hikaru in 144p
The way he says bitch😂 but yeah I hate cheaters...
How I report? Where I report? Where? Do I go to his profile??? And the report icon is showing at the top lol
A GRANDMASTER , who didn't have the grandest upbringing . His abusive outrage is just an evidence
Who said chess is boring?
Is this the player who is named jobava London opening?
It is!
All you can do is play your best. God is in charge of the results. If you get cheated you can be nice about it and report it. Sure it ruined your tournament but it is a test to build your character. Acting humbly and respectfully and correctly in unfavorable circumstances.
Wise words! :)
How many time did he say beach instead of bitch 🤣🤣🤣
He did all of that just for a check😅
call me cheater blyat'.. davay blyat' ))
gmhikaru approves