I own a 2023 Chrysler 300C, while I was at the dealership service department I was wanting to know if a kill switch or an expensive alarm system would invalidate my warranty. They explained this fix for Chrysler so I thought it was a good idea to have it done right then and there. This patch took only about 10 minutes to do, he just plugged something into the computer and played with his phone a little and it was done. I don't care about any updates I come from a generation that you get what you get when you buy a car and that's it. I'm not one to lose my key fob, I just don't want to come out from the mall and find my car gone. The tradeoff is feeling more secure about my car versus maybe an inconvenience in the future. I hope this helps
I got this same letter in the mail the other day. I also asked two separate dodge dealers if they could update my valet mode to the new update to reduce it to 2.8 HP, they said they had no idea what I was talking about smh. I also recommend getting a faraday box, I use one and it works perfectly by blocking the signal from your fob to your car. It basically does what the update is supposed to do.
I did this the other day i have a 2019 scat.....my service advisor said its the first time they will do it....took about 1hr and change idk wth they did or how to check if they did anything lolol..im really wanting to do the enhances valet update idk why they sent the rf hub 1st and not the valet mode
They broke my rear passenger window. Gutted out under the glove box. Plugged in a tablet and set a different key to work with my car. Less then 2 minutes my car was burning rubber threw the broken glass. The Faraday box won't help there.
My 2 cents is this. Get the update. With chip shortage and productions issues on the platforms, it is extremely difficult getting a replacement car in the queue ahead of the ready sold units awaiting production. If your car gets stolen in the short future of the life of these cars, and it can't be recovered and your insurance issues you a check for a replacement, you may be hard pressed to find a new or used vehicle to replace the one you lost and then you're screwed.So get the update and don't worry about uconnect graphics and such. Protect you're car.
It's obvious when you have a kill switch. When your car tries to start and no go. It's usually a quick sweep under the dash and I've seen some under the seat. With passcode. Your remote start still works for those cold winter days. Every major city has a big problem with these cars getting stolen mainly from the outskirts. My car is about 3 hours away from last most likely accurate GPS signal. My car was stolen on the 31st of December and finally lost connection with my car on the 2nd. Live tracking thre series xm guardian qnd unconnect. I can't even see what my tire pressure is or them power train failure light warnings I got when my car was stolen. Fuckers don't even have enough decency to use Supreme gas. They filled it with regular unleaded. Qssholes.
A theft can still break into your car, regardless of what software you have in the car. One person mentioned a “kill switch” that is IMO a better option.
@@x4tfxChallenger I hear you. The point I was trying to make was that regardless whatever method you use to protect your car, do something. There is a very real delay with manufacturing these cars that will eat up the time left to actually get a car should you need to get a replacement because it was stolen or crashed. It behooves you to take whatever measures necessary to mitigate any potential angst because you may or may not be able to replace your car in the very near future. Feel me?
@@kobiimpraim4838 I understand where you are coming from. What I don’t understand is, why would the FCA enhance security, while simultaneously penalizing their customers for getting the software update? Why would they prevent customers from receiving future updates and prevent them from programming new key fobs after the new software installation? In addition, why did it take the FCA 7 years to identify this issue? It shows the lack of prudency from the FCA when it comes to updating the security features on their products.
They could have added a passcode that needs to be typed in the Uconnect to start the car, just like the transporter. Even in the early concept pics from dodge they showed a passcode screen on the Uconnect. Should be available to every car with the 5, 7 or 8 inch Uconnect
Had it done Friday. Got a new fob for 53$.and the dealer didn't charge anything else. So 53$ total and 45 minutes altogether. Thanks for the post and discussion.
Good content bruh. Love the info you put out there for us. I just got the update installed this Friday. Also I have the new pedal box and I put it in theft mode every time I park for more than an hour. Short of towing it away or pushing it away, at least I tried lol.
First, thank you for the constant up to date info. Second, the 2021s, are updated like they do the interior. Got the same letter. I had to read it twice because I didn't believe the circumstances. There are ways to wire your car to where it won't run no matter what, and you can hide it when you go to the dealership so they won't talk that warranty bs. Just have to know what to do. Obviously can't tell it on the internet. Just think about what a car needs to run and set it up to where you can control that factor. 😎
Just got my RF Hub locked today [Monday 1-10-2022] on my '21 Challenger SP/WB. I had made an appointment [with my local CDJR delearship] last week. I was in and out in less than hour. Dealership Service Manager says only item impacted [that will no longer receive over-the-air updates] is the radio. My Scat is now less vulerable to theft; although I always keep it locked inside my locked garage. And my buddies (Smith, Wesson, Beretta) are always at the ready if needed.
@@donphonso Once the RF Hub is locked, a key can not be made by anyone (including the Dealership), so don't lose the 2 original key fobs. To make new keys, requires replacing the RF Hub with a new non-locked unit. Expensive ($1k ?) but the reason for locking the RF Hub is to deny car theives the ability to produce a duplicate key fob for stealing your ride. Hope this helps.
Appreciate the info. This is a bad pattern...Im really serious about reaching out to some old acquaintances and letting them use my car as bait. Yep. It’s that bad. When people in this game start getting “snatched up” or worse while trying to take someone else hard earned property, they might think twice about whether it’s worth it. Back in the old west, they used to have special treatment for “horse thief’s”...LOL
They are capitalizing on this just like with the ecu locking and with their new tuning software. Just like other companies they only want you buying everything from them. Aftermarket makes them lose to much money so this is their attempt to counter the loss of money on their end. So if you want everything covered on warranty and fully secure then this is what you get.
Love you channel keep up the work. I have a 2020 Challenger Scat and I got that letter about a month or so ago. I was just as concerned as you are pointing out the wording. Fortunately my car is very well secured and I am lucky for that, so most likely I am not letting them do that update.
I had a 2016 Challenger Hellcat for 6 years before it was stolen last year. I just bought a 2022 same color. I have the key fob delete done and a few more simple "peace of mind" mods so I can sleep at night. The dealer didn't have any extra keys but I still elected to get the update. I started this video, paused it, called my dealer and was assured that this update doesn't block software updates.
I have an appointment to get mine done I am not worried about losing a key fob and if I do and I need the module replaced so be it It's not all that expensive. It is pretty accessible but I won't explain where it is. Furthermore the expense of having your car stolen is huge not to mention the inconvenience especially if you're out of town when it happens. I showed how to update the Uconnect it's just a matter of using a USB drive and going to their website. It is the 1st step you do before updating your GPS system and map software. I have had my car for 3 years have no issues with it and I don't want anything to change sometimes software updates break other things. In my opinion locking this down IMO is an excellent short term solution however, It's just a matter of time before the thieves bring an extra module with them which hopefully is not faster than programming a new key fob. I also think many of the fears they put in the letter are so that not everybody wants to go and get it done all at once. You can keep yours unlocked I'm locking mine down.
I've got a 2019 Daytona 392 (took delivery in Jan of 2019), and have only seen 1 UConnect update. I've also recently received the letter for getting it locked. They are only locking the RF module, so theoretically, you should still be able to take it to a dealer and have them update the software over OBD, if there ever is one. It sucks because all manufacturers run on outdated hardware, which the chip makers themselves have called them out for. If they just "come to the 21st Century," with it, there would be more security built-in. It still is bad on Dodge if all it takes is hijacking/duplicating a RF signal. They should have built-in encryption/checks along with that RF signal to ensure it is only coming from a legit registered Keyfob. As Kobi said, just get the update. What it locks isn't a huge deal, unless you are just bad at keeping track of your keys. It is easier to protect your car, than to lose it in the current market, and hope that you can get a replacement.
I received the same letter with a 2019 Scat, So I assume they are already rolling out the trickle down. My concern is, If you do not have this done and the car is taken via the replication method will the insurance cover it or not... we all know they will find damn near anyway to not cover something.
I think I am going to sit tight too. My dealer(s) have know idea what I am talking about when I tell them about the letter. What I really wanted was that valet mode update. Even with that all you have to do is disconnect the battery and re-connect to be in normal mode. If anything, maybe I would do the valet update (when real - not fictional) and then do this lock I guess... Glad to see you received the same exact letter I received though so I have someone to corroborate with.
Hey just now trying to catch up on your video's. If you have a scanner you can disable the additional key fob slots. Thieves can't use the open slots. Can you do a video on this.
I feel like the cars will still be a target for a while. At least untill thieves realize the method they've been using no longer works. I still would be concerned about what thieves would do to get around this. Hopefully this is slow down theft on these cars all together.
I got the same letter in the mail but I’m a mechanic we put a Killswitch in it even if you have the fob you ain’t starting my car😁 and my Redeye came 2 red keys and one black key..mine is a 2019
OMG. Stop whining. Do the update. Get an extra key. Take the batteries out of your extra keys, this prevents the extras in your house from being scanned by RFID thieves. Next keep your one good key in a faraday case, constantly. Stay packing with extra mags. Don’t get out of your Scat or Cat after an accident, call the police and wait. Don’t let anyone approach you after being bumped after said accident. Be ready to bail. Keep your head on a swivel. Add a kill switch and HIDE the switch. If you can’t do it, pay a mechanic to do it. Add an airbag or some other device that you can track. HIDE that device. Keep your Scats and Cats locked up! Add security cameras. OUTSMART THEM! Use your head.
I look at it this way, I'll rather get the update then having my car stolen! That's just me forget about uconnect updates, I'll rather have my car instead! I'll just get two more key fobs made first
Dodge is the only company that can enhance security, while simultaneously hindering the consumer from accessing future security updates. It’s perplexing.
Got my update done on 21 Scat. I called FCA and inquired about the valet mode update and was told by FCA this is currently the only update letter they have for RF hub.
I think the software updates are critical, criminals could still break a window or get inside by the moonroof being pulled back, etc. It might be worth just getting an aftermarket security system
They need to do away with the key phob system or give customers a option to have key phobs or go back to ignition keys that you insert in the car and leave it in to operate the vehicle
Sitting here without my charger. It was stolen on the 31st. From my point of view as I drive this Ford edge rental....it's worth it to keep your charger. The number of these cars being stolen. It's amazing there's still some on the road that aren't. O.o
It's easy to protect these vehicles, just go on internet and get you a Brake lock, thieves will think twice about even stealing these vehicles. Without the brake being engaged the person can't even get the car out of gear. If they see it they wouldn't even bother with it. Now car Jacking that's a different story just be aware of your surroundings, if anybody pulls behind you, tap your bumper on purpose don't get out your vehicle. I Think the highest carjacking areas in America as of now is definitely Philadelphia, Detroit. I don't live anywhere near those areas. But you have to still be vigilant wherever you live. Enjoy your cars, and muscle cars people.
I’ve been to two dealerships to try and get this done on my 2021 hellcat widebody and both had the deer in the headlight look even with the letter in hand so I’m done, it’s a waste of time for me personally 🤷🏻♂️
now that you mention this, then basically you can buy the device, buy aftermarket keyfobs, and basically make your own keyfobs for cheaper, then take to the dealership and lock the module
It not just currently applies to 20 and 21's I have a 2019 and received the letter too. I don't know if this makes a difference but I turn off passive entry to that I have to press the unlock button to enter the vehicle. I noticed with it on the head unit in the would turn on even when I just walked up to the vehicle. Time to bring back THE CLUB
I bought an extra red key. Got 3 red and one black. I did the update. I have 200 miles on a custom ordered 21 redeye charger and I cannot replace it. Wouldn’t really care if we weren’t in the position with the way the market is trying to find a freaking car. Insurance won’t pay the real market value anyway. Key was $200
My dad owned alot of dodge cars in the past. He owns a durango, stratus, grand caravan and some more. He said he won't buy another dodge again, maintly due to reliability and bad resell value. Not sure if its the same today. His dodge experience was from maby 95-07. After we sold our 98 durango we got an 03 kia sorento, then we were looking around at another durango,acura mdx, bmw xt or x7. Then we saw and Audi Q7. My dad really liked it. My dad was a big fan of dodge because his whole car lineup was 2 chevys and 2 dodges. Let me know if the issue my dad talked about changed then maby my dad may trade in the Q7 for a durango SRT or get a durango!
also the 4x4 on the 98 durango was a beast it was unstoppabble thats what my dad missed the most about it but when my dad bought it for over msrp in 98 he didnt get that much for it!
I've had my Charger for 3 years and I don't think I've ever had to update the uConnect. GET THE UPDATE!!!!!! If it gets stolen, it's going to be extremely hard to get another one considering there's still a chip shortage and they're going to stop making these cars in the very near future (I think 2023 is going to be the last model year).
Ok so since I bought my first SRT 2011 (‘08 Challenger # 5591), to my ordered ‘17 Charger HellCat, & used ‘17 Jeep SRT, I have never needed to have a new key fob programmed (as losing my keys is not a real thing). Just like you stated software updates are so far and few between that it is not even worth mentioning.
@Copyright Testing On our cars the key fob sends a signal to the car, and this is the signal the thieves hack to steal the car. Our cars do not send out any signals to the key fob so thieves could not hack into your car without access to the key fob signal.
@@thehellraisinhellraiser3251 I keep mine in a Faraday pouch and when I leave the car I hit the lock button on the car because I heard dudes where waiting for guys at the mall to hit the lock button on the remote to get the signal before you are putting the remote into a Faraday pouch?
If you lose both fobs then you'll have to replace the module for like $700 that's what the dealership told me, I did do the update just to give me piece of mind plus I do have a Carlock device too.
I got the update, the only issue I’m having is that it’s throwing an engine code. I had the throttle body replaced. And it through the code again. Some forums are saying it’s due to the cold (it’s been below 30f) and using the remote starter and that’s it’s cleared up on it’s own when it’s warm. At this point I have no regrets. I’d rather have a issue that dodged cause and the car is secure, than a issue I caused with some aftermarket security system and now I’m coming out of pocket for repairs.
Regarding the update there’s 2 ways to receive it one is over the air and the second is via an email they send you with a compressed file which you download to a usb thumb drive. That’s how I did my update.
Re- key using block chain encryption or a secure ID that the electronics (that changes at certain time intervals) in the car on board computer and key fob that will sync to each other. Stop using open air frequencies that are readable and static on one frequency.
Good thing i keep my spare keep in a …safe…place. They only lock out the KEY security software module. Everything else is on its own so u can still get radio software etc.
I like it!!!....I got a 2016 scat...I'm not worried about updates. The last one they did was in 2017 I beleive.....In fact I wouldn't trust the Government in the future trying to download some funky 💩in our cars...I got two fobs...but I would buy an extra one..plus knowing thieves can't jack my 💩 and drive away.....I wanna go back to the old-school for sho!
Hey knockout I love your vids/shorts bro. I always wanted a muscle car as kid but was never to get one due to financial problems in the family. Everytime I watch your videos you inspire to work hard and get one of these one day, i recently traded in my Genesis 4.6 for a v6 2019 challenger(yea it’s a v6 but it fits my agenda perfectly until I make more bread). Hopefully one day I can get a hellcat or scat and meetup one day, I stay in Durham North Carolina so to see you in charlotte going crazy got me thinking this shit is possible
It was so nice just to have a plain old key to unlock your car. More tech=more problems. I remember when cars weren’t rolling computers Does this have any thing to do with the Stellantis buy out?
A little safer in an understatement. The easiest way by far to steal the car is thru the computer, or neutral release. Sleeping a lot better these days with a phab sleeve knowing they can’t erase my key. Fastest one I’ve seen stolen was like 45 seconds. The updates usually freeze the radio anyway, minor set back to have the dealership update it. Also you get 3 keys in a cat 👿. Don’t give these thieves free Wi-Fi updates when your car is gone, and if they find it you will probably need a new window and key re-programming…
Us lil r/t owners don't have to worry lol it's just an r/t right???. But, a few things I'll say i did. viper alarm with vibration and tilt sensor. vibration detection to your phone with low jack. and key fob signal blocker. If they get pass those, then great insurance. It'll be an upgrade anyway lol have at it
If you don't want to get the update buy you a club that locks your steering wheel & brake pedal together as one club for when parking in public, after market alarm with shock sensor, & aftermarket kill switch 1 for ignition & the other kill switch for fuel also as well get a custom steering wheel that you can remove completely off & take in the house another thing to is there is a neutral lock cover that a person is selling to everyone to keep anyone from putting your car in neutral & rolling your car even if they dis connected the battery can't do nothing still can't turn the wheel or roll it with or without steering wheel on or off
@Copyright Testing gotta protect everything nowadays especially things you work hard for & your life this is the world we are living in & thanks for the comment your the real g for even seeing & reading my comment
Why not do a firmware update and add a mode like valet mode where you can shut down the ignition with a pin code? Seems simple to me. Just like your cell phone.
I got that letter the other day on my 2021 scatpack that I ordered on September. You’d think this update would’ve been already installed since the came up with in mid summer!!!
@@jonkeefer6865 oh wow, unbelievable.... I was so anxious to get mine since the day I placed the order.. I can't imagine what you're going through. Mine is winterized right now due to snow and haven't touched it in a month :(
@@salpanahi yeah, i bought snow tires and rims, but they are just taking up space in my garage!! the car left the plant 12/02. been in niagara falls storage lot since 12/03.mopar says no eta to dealership......
@@salpanahi which is bs. i'm paying a $1500 delivery fee. ship that mf... i was talking to someone on a forum, and his arrived at a lot in november, and supposedly just shipped out from that lot over the weekend. total crap on dodge's part.
Also if you do the update...make sure you have all the keys because once they do update the keys are locked into module....so if you lose a key you are done...you will have to buy new module...the dealers will have a special down load and code to enter software updates...also be careful because dealers are marking keys up through the roof.....dealers are charging up to $500 a key.....but I did find a mopar online wholesaler that sells for about $130 plus tax...you will have to prove your address and picture ID for security.
The Security Software Update clearly has a huge benefit; that is denying thieves the ability to replicate a "FOB" and then take (steal) the car. I would imagine that once the RF Hub is locked, there must be a method in which any future updates could be directly downloaded into the vehicle by the dealer at the dealership (re: Dealership's Computer connected directly to vehicle and then any new future software updates for the vehicle could then be done). Regarding having more than 2 FOBs: I suppose that some folks might want to get a 3rd (or 4th?) FOB made before locking the RF Hub; personally I'm fine with just the original 2 FOBs, as I keep the 2nd FOB secured at home, and not close to or near my vehicle is garaged (garage not attached to house). Thoughts, comments?
same. still waiting on my 2021 to come in, but i'll have 2 fobs since it's new. i plan on having this done at the dealership before i even leave the lot with the car. i've waited almost 4 months for th car now. i'd hate to start all over again.
What happened to the security update that would limit car if stolen to 5 miles an hour ( something like that)? It was supposed to be out by now. People say install a kill switch but won't that disable remote start?
this update only stops them from reprogramming keys. relay attacks will still work unless you put your key in a faraday pouch. relay attack basically mimics your already working keys.
So if you get the update....and disable your keyless entry through the evic system in your car....you should be completely good...except for a tow truck...
I own a 2023 Chrysler 300C, while I was at the dealership service department I was wanting to know if a kill switch or an expensive alarm system would invalidate my warranty. They explained this fix for Chrysler so I thought it was a good idea to have it done right then and there. This patch took only about 10 minutes to do, he just plugged something into the computer and played with his phone a little and it was done. I don't care about any updates I come from a generation that you get what you get when you buy a car and that's it. I'm not one to lose my key fob, I just don't want to come out from the mall and find my car gone. The tradeoff is feeling more secure about my car versus maybe an inconvenience in the future. I hope this helps
An IGLA wont void warranty
I got this same letter in the mail the other day. I also asked two separate dodge dealers if they could update my valet mode to the new update to reduce it to 2.8 HP, they said they had no idea what I was talking about smh. I also recommend getting a faraday box, I use one and it works perfectly by blocking the signal from your fob to your car. It basically does what the update is supposed to do.
They do this just in case you go to the mall or on a date or club, unless they sell a portable shield one hmmm 🤔
I did this the other day i have a 2019 scat.....my service advisor said its the first time they will do it....took about 1hr and change idk wth they did or how to check if they did anything lolol..im really wanting to do the enhances valet update idk why they sent the rf hub 1st and not the valet mode
I also have a faraday bag....i still use it
They broke my rear passenger window. Gutted out under the glove box. Plugged in a tablet and set a different key to work with my car. Less then 2 minutes my car was burning rubber threw the broken glass. The Faraday box won't help there.
I mean rear drivers side window
My 2 cents is this. Get the update. With chip shortage and productions issues on the platforms, it is extremely difficult getting a replacement car in the queue ahead of the ready sold units awaiting production. If your car gets stolen in the short future of the life of these cars, and it can't be recovered and your insurance issues you a check for a replacement, you may be hard pressed to find a new or used vehicle to replace the one you lost and then you're screwed.So get the update and don't worry about uconnect graphics and such. Protect you're car.
Put a kill switch in it it's not hard to wires go up under the dash you can run it anywhere
It's obvious when you have a kill switch. When your car tries to start and no go. It's usually a quick sweep under the dash and I've seen some under the seat. With passcode. Your remote start still works for those cold winter days. Every major city has a big problem with these cars getting stolen mainly from the outskirts. My car is about 3 hours away from last most likely accurate GPS signal. My car was stolen on the 31st of December and finally lost connection with my car on the 2nd. Live tracking thre series xm guardian qnd unconnect. I can't even see what my tire pressure is or them power train failure light warnings I got when my car was stolen. Fuckers don't even have enough decency to use Supreme gas. They filled it with regular unleaded. Qssholes.
A theft can still break into your car, regardless of what software you have in the car. One person mentioned a “kill switch” that is IMO a better option.
@@x4tfxChallenger I hear you. The point I was trying to make was that regardless whatever method you use to protect your car, do something. There is a very real delay with manufacturing these cars that will eat up the time left to actually get a car should you need to get a replacement because it was stolen or crashed. It behooves you to take whatever measures necessary to mitigate any potential angst because you may or may not be able to replace your car in the very near future. Feel me?
@@kobiimpraim4838 I understand where you are coming from. What I don’t understand is, why would the FCA enhance security, while simultaneously penalizing their customers for getting the software update? Why would they prevent customers from receiving future updates and prevent them from programming new key fobs after the new software installation? In addition, why did it take the FCA 7 years to identify this issue? It shows the lack of prudency from the FCA when it comes to updating the security features on their products.
Dodge should offer the pin code security system for all the Performance Vehicle at the own expense
dodge should just make the secuirty system to require you to punch in a code to allow you to enable the car, not all this complicated bs they pump out
They could have added a passcode that needs to be typed in the Uconnect to start the car, just like the transporter. Even in the early concept pics from dodge they showed a passcode screen on the Uconnect. Should be available to every car with the 5, 7 or 8 inch Uconnect
I remember that from the transporter! As simple as that but they still haven’t done it smh
They added it. It enables valet mode which leaves the car with 3HP and if you drive it it will stall
@@eddy3080 is it available for the Durango hellcat? Thanks
@@eddy3080 damn that sounds funny af imagine tryna do your quick getaway in a stolen dodge and that shit keeps happening. embarrassing
@@apolloollopa1653 they're devices give the pin. Only way is if they're repeating keys. Most people are just cloning keys
Had it done Friday.
Got a new fob for 53$.and the dealer didn't charge anything else.
So 53$ total and 45 minutes altogether.
Thanks for the post and discussion.
My scat is a 2016...dealer said they got nothing for me yet
Good content bruh. Love the info you put out there for us. I just got the update installed this Friday. Also I have the new pedal box and I put it in theft mode every time I park for more than an hour. Short of towing it away or pushing it away, at least I tried lol.
First, thank you for the constant up to date info. Second, the 2021s, are updated like they do the interior. Got the same letter. I had to read it twice because I didn't believe the circumstances. There are ways to wire your car to where it won't run no matter what, and you can hide it when you go to the dealership so they won't talk that warranty bs. Just have to know what to do. Obviously can't tell it on the internet. Just think about what a car needs to run and set it up to where you can control that factor. 😎
Just got my RF Hub locked today [Monday 1-10-2022] on my '21 Challenger SP/WB. I had made an appointment [with my local CDJR delearship] last week. I was in and out in less than hour. Dealership Service Manager says only item impacted [that will no longer receive over-the-air updates] is the radio. My Scat is now less vulerable to theft; although I always keep it locked inside my locked garage. And my buddies (Smith, Wesson, Beretta) are always at the ready if needed.
I got a 2016 scatpack...went to the dealership and its not ready for me...sucks soo bad...did you get the full 3 steps of security?
So how would u program a new key in case you lose yours?? I’m a mopar tech and I would think they would tell you how.
@@donphonso Once the RF Hub is locked, a key can not be made by anyone (including the Dealership), so don't lose the 2 original key fobs. To make new keys, requires replacing the RF Hub with a new non-locked unit. Expensive ($1k ?) but the reason for locking the RF Hub is to deny car theives the ability to produce a duplicate key fob for stealing your ride. Hope this helps.
Appreciate the info. This is a bad pattern...Im really serious about reaching out to some old acquaintances and letting them use my car as bait. Yep. It’s that bad. When people in this game start getting “snatched up” or worse while trying to take someone else hard earned property, they might think twice about whether it’s worth it. Back in the old west, they used to have special treatment for “horse thief’s”...LOL
This is why I like the Onstar setup with GM vehicles. Vehicle can always be tracked.
They can be disabled very quickly too happens all the time on the higher end GM trucks the high county and denali are the most stolen
They are capitalizing on this just like with the ecu locking and with their new tuning software. Just like other companies they only want you buying everything from them. Aftermarket makes them lose to much money so this is their attempt to counter the loss of money on their end. So if you want everything covered on warranty and fully secure then this is what you get.
Love you channel keep up the work. I have a 2020 Challenger Scat and I got that letter about a month or so ago. I was just as concerned as you are pointing out the wording. Fortunately my car is very well secured and I am lucky for that, so most likely I am not letting them do that update.
I had a 2016 Challenger Hellcat for 6 years before it was stolen last year. I just bought a 2022 same color. I have the key fob delete done and a few more simple "peace of mind" mods so I can sleep at night. The dealer didn't have any extra keys but I still elected to get the update. I started this video, paused it, called my dealer and was assured that this update doesn't block software updates.
Getting my updated in a couple weeks. I will take any and all protection for my car!
How'd it go...I got a 2016 scat...dont know if they have me yet
Another great video Thank you
Great video. At this point you have to do everything you can to protect your mopar lbs!!!!
I'm not even a Mopar Owner I still toon in for yo content keep dem coming
I’m doing it and adding shock sensor. Updates can be done only locks the rf hub. Rf hub is $150 to replace. That what was explained to me.
Good information! I was looking into the update for my SRT and I'm a nerd so of course I had to research it.
THANKS FOR THE INFO.
I was about to make an appointment.
IM GOING TO PUT MY OWN SECURITY SYSTEM.
I imagine a locked rfid module should decrease the value of the car to those that know
Done the security after 2 days after receiving the letter. All good. Just do it and be responsible for your keys.
What year is your car...I got a 2016 scat
I have an appointment to get mine done I am not worried about losing a key fob and if I do and I need the module replaced so be it It's not all that expensive. It is pretty accessible but I won't explain where it is. Furthermore the expense of having your car stolen is huge not to mention the inconvenience especially if you're out of town when it happens. I showed how to update the Uconnect it's just a matter of using a USB drive and going to their website. It is the 1st step you do before updating your GPS system and map software. I have had my car for 3 years have no issues with it and I don't want anything to change sometimes software updates break other things. In my opinion locking this down IMO is an excellent short term solution however, It's just a matter of time before the thieves bring an extra module with them which hopefully is not faster than programming a new key fob. I also think many of the fears they put in the letter are so that not everybody wants to go and get it done all at once. You can keep yours unlocked I'm locking mine down.
What do you think about Installing the destroyer300 in your neutral cover ?
I've got a 2019 Daytona 392 (took delivery in Jan of 2019), and have only seen 1 UConnect update. I've also recently received the letter for getting it locked. They are only locking the RF module, so theoretically, you should still be able to take it to a dealer and have them update the software over OBD, if there ever is one. It sucks because all manufacturers run on outdated hardware, which the chip makers themselves have called them out for. If they just "come to the 21st Century," with it, there would be more security built-in. It still is bad on Dodge if all it takes is hijacking/duplicating a RF signal. They should have built-in encryption/checks along with that RF signal to ensure it is only coming from a legit registered Keyfob.
As Kobi said, just get the update. What it locks isn't a huge deal, unless you are just bad at keeping track of your keys. It is easier to protect your car, than to lose it in the current market, and hope that you can get a replacement.
“Dogge has been nothing but good to me” looks like its given you a whole channel, personality, and job 😂😂
I received the same letter with a 2019 Scat, So I assume they are already rolling out the trickle down. My concern is, If you do not have this done and the car is taken via the replication method will the insurance cover it or not... we all know they will find damn near anyway to not cover something.
I totally agree with you about insurance. That is my worry right now.
Dodge was like. Let’s see if you niggas really care about your cars
In the garage and keys on the other side of my house lolol
I start the car from 500ft away. This won’t help you lol.
@@AllenAllen674 that's why I never leave the car outside...start in the garage and gun on hip
I think I am going to sit tight too. My dealer(s) have know idea what I am talking about when I tell them about the letter.
What I really wanted was that valet mode update. Even with that all you have to do is disconnect the battery and re-connect to be in normal mode.
If anything, maybe I would do the valet update (when real - not fictional) and then do this lock I guess...
Glad to see you received the same exact letter I received though so I have someone to corroborate with.
It's easy enough to go up under the dash and put a kill switch in a toggle switch any kind of switch. You can run the Killswitch anywhere.
Hey just now trying to catch up on your video's. If you have a scanner you can disable the additional key fob slots. Thieves can't use the open slots. Can you do a video on this.
I feel like the cars will still be a target for a while. At least untill thieves realize the method they've been using no longer works. I still would be concerned about what thieves would do to get around this. Hopefully this is slow down theft on these cars all together.
Yo bro random question what phone holder is that you have on the side I been looking for one like that for the longest
Car sounds beautiful on start up, what exhaust are you running?
I got the same letter in the mail but I’m a mechanic we put a Killswitch in it even if you have the fob you ain’t starting my car😁 and my Redeye came 2 red keys and one black key..mine is a 2019
I was told the 2022 will have this already installed so no update needed on 22 and 23s. But 2021 to 2015 will need it updated if you choose to do so
I have a 21 widebody scat and I reccieved the letter. Maybe future updates can be done at the dealership manually since OTAs won't work anymore.
OMG. Stop whining. Do the update. Get an extra key. Take the batteries out of your extra keys, this prevents the extras in your house from being scanned by RFID thieves. Next keep your one good key in a faraday case, constantly. Stay packing with extra mags. Don’t get out of your Scat or Cat after an accident, call the police and wait. Don’t let anyone approach you after being bumped after said accident. Be ready to bail. Keep your head on a swivel. Add a kill switch and HIDE the switch. If you can’t do it, pay a mechanic to do it. Add an airbag or some other device that you can track. HIDE that device. Keep your Scats and Cats locked up! Add security cameras.
OUTSMART THEM! Use your head.
I appreciate the update that Uconnect from the phone is nice
We gonna go back to those old steering wheel locks? 🤣
I look at it this way, I'll rather get the update then having my car stolen! That's just me forget about uconnect updates, I'll rather have my car instead! I'll just get two more key fobs made first
“For sxt’s and r/t’s…..ya on ya own” 😂🤣😂 damn…..I just bought my first charger and it’s a SXT lmaoooo I feel like a step child now
Dodge is the only company that can enhance security, while simultaneously hindering the consumer from accessing future security updates. It’s perplexing.
If you're dealer knows nothing about these updates, tell them to login to their dealer resources. You would think they would know that but most don't.
Got my update done on 21 Scat. I called FCA and inquired about the valet mode update and was told by FCA this is currently the only update letter they have for RF hub.
How long
I think the software updates are critical, criminals could still break a window or get inside by the moonroof being pulled back, etc. It might be worth just getting an aftermarket security system
They can break in but they can’t steal the car which is the big deal
They need to do away with the key phob system or give customers a option to have key phobs or go back to ignition keys that you insert in the car and leave it in to operate the vehicle
Sitting here without my charger. It was stolen on the 31st. From my point of view as I drive this Ford edge rental....it's worth it to keep your charger. The number of these cars being stolen. It's amazing there's still some on the road that aren't. O.o
I'm sorry. Mine was also stolen. And it was the worst feeling ever. So I can imagine how bummed you are.
It's easy to protect these vehicles, just go on internet and get you a Brake lock, thieves will think twice about even stealing these vehicles. Without the brake being engaged the person can't even get the car out of gear. If they see it they wouldn't even bother with it. Now car Jacking that's a different story just be aware of your surroundings, if anybody pulls behind you, tap your bumper on purpose don't get out your vehicle. I Think the highest carjacking areas in America as of now is definitely Philadelphia, Detroit. I don't live anywhere near those areas. But you have to still be vigilant wherever you live. Enjoy your cars, and muscle cars people.
I’ve been to two dealerships to try and get this done on my 2021 hellcat widebody and both had the deer in the headlight look even with the letter in hand so I’m done, it’s a waste of time for me personally 🤷🏻♂️
Same here....
Yeah...ran into that also
This is not a Dodge problem only. This is an issue with any vehicle with a key fob and push button start. They same procedure can be used on any car.
Def getting this for my 16’ sxt challenger 👌
😭😭😭 you obviously don’t listen
now that you mention this, then basically you can buy the device, buy aftermarket keyfobs, and basically make your own keyfobs for cheaper, then take to the dealership and lock the module
I have the security update and still get the OTA updates. Not sure who told you this
Lmbooo
It not just currently applies to 20 and 21's I have a 2019 and received the letter too. I don't know if this makes a difference but I turn off passive entry to that I have to press the unlock button to enter the vehicle. I noticed with it on the head unit in the would turn on even when I just walked up to the vehicle.
Time to bring back THE CLUB
they just reprogramming keys here with tablets in chicago they not stealing signals.
RF module is behind the rear bumper cover just like all other vehicles. Essentially all it is an antenna.
I’d like to know if this is on the 2022 and if it also applied to the 300?
I bought an extra red key. Got 3 red and one black. I did the update. I have 200 miles on a custom ordered 21 redeye charger and I cannot replace it. Wouldn’t really care if we weren’t in the position with the way the market is trying to find a freaking car. Insurance won’t pay the real market value anyway. Key was $200
My dad owned alot of dodge cars in the past. He owns a durango, stratus, grand caravan and some more. He said he won't buy another dodge again, maintly due to reliability and bad resell value. Not sure if its the same today. His dodge experience was from maby 95-07. After we sold our 98 durango we got an 03 kia sorento, then we were looking around at another durango,acura mdx, bmw xt or x7. Then we saw and Audi Q7. My dad really liked it. My dad was a big fan of dodge because his whole car lineup was 2 chevys and 2 dodges. Let me know if the issue my dad talked about changed then maby my dad may trade in the Q7 for a durango SRT or get a durango!
also the 4x4 on the 98 durango was a beast it was unstoppabble thats what my dad missed the most about it but when my dad bought it for over msrp in 98 he didnt get that much for it!
I've had my Charger for 3 years and I don't think I've ever had to update the uConnect. GET THE UPDATE!!!!!!
If it gets stolen, it's going to be extremely hard to get another one considering there's still a chip shortage and they're going to stop making these cars in the very near future (I think 2023 is going to be the last model year).
Do you know about the 2022 security system? If it's affected?
Ok so since I bought my first SRT 2011 (‘08 Challenger # 5591), to my ordered ‘17 Charger HellCat, & used ‘17 Jeep SRT, I have never needed to have a new key fob programmed (as losing my keys is not a real thing). Just like you stated software updates are so far and few between that it is not even worth mentioning.
I read this letter, laughed and threw it away lol.
Sounds like a great class action suit … I bet the insurance company’s love this….
Just keep your key fobs in a Faraday pouch. It blocks the signal from the fob.
@Copyright Testing On our cars the key fob sends a signal to the car, and this is the signal the thieves hack to steal the car. Our cars do not send out any signals to the key fob so thieves could not hack into your car without access to the key fob signal.
@@thehellraisinhellraiser3251 I keep mine in a Faraday pouch and when I leave the car I hit the lock button on the car because I heard dudes where waiting for guys at the mall to hit the lock button on the remote to get the signal before you are putting the remote into a Faraday pouch?
If you lose both fobs then you'll have to replace the module for like $700 that's what the dealership told me, I did do the update just to give me piece of mind plus I do have a Carlock device too.
All rf modules literally located on the back deck I dare you leave your car outside after that😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
I got the update, the only issue I’m having is that it’s throwing an engine code. I had the throttle body replaced. And it through the code again. Some forums are saying it’s due to the cold (it’s been below 30f) and using the remote starter and that’s it’s cleared up on it’s own when it’s warm. At this point I have no regrets. I’d rather have a issue that dodged cause and the car is secure, than a issue I caused with some aftermarket security system and now I’m coming out of pocket for repairs.
Regarding the update there’s 2 ways to receive it one is over the air and the second is via an email they send you with a compressed file which you download to a usb thumb drive. That’s how I did my update.
There are other ways to keep your vehicle safe, but also, I'm okay with the change. Yeah, I am getting 4 key fobs just in case.
I am getting a third key made, going into my safety deposit box. If you can pay 90K for a car, you'd better be able to pay $250 for an extra key
Re- key using block chain encryption or a secure ID that the electronics (that changes at certain time intervals) in the car on board computer and key fob that will sync to each other. Stop using open air frequencies that are readable and static on one frequency.
Just go get a second alarm install so if they bypass the factory one they have a second want to wear about
The intro is sweet
i got my letter for the 2019 daytona 392 says rf module can’t be re programmed does not say anything about over air updates
Good thing i keep my spare keep in a …safe…place. They only lock out the KEY security software module. Everything else is on its own so u can still get radio software etc.
I like it!!!....I got a 2016 scat...I'm not worried about updates. The last one they did was in 2017 I beleive.....In fact I wouldn't trust the Government in the future trying to download some funky 💩in our cars...I got two fobs...but I would buy an extra one..plus knowing thieves can't jack my 💩 and drive away.....I wanna go back to the old-school for sho!
You said it right. We are paying for top of the line. Some b.s from fca in my opinion.
I put a cut off switch on my scat . It works great . Simple easy to do . Total cost , $20.00
Link?
@@chriscs997 there diy’s on CZcams. Type in charger kill switch. Very easy and cheap to do
Hey knockout I love your vids/shorts bro. I always wanted a muscle car as kid but was never to get one due to financial problems in the family. Everytime I watch your videos you inspire to work hard and get one of these one day, i recently traded in my Genesis 4.6 for a v6 2019 challenger(yea it’s a v6 but it fits my agenda perfectly until I make more bread). Hopefully one day I can get a hellcat or scat and meetup one day, I stay in Durham North Carolina so to see you in charlotte going crazy got me thinking this shit is possible
It was so nice just to have a plain old key to unlock your car.
More tech=more problems.
I remember when cars weren’t rolling computers
Does this have any thing to do with the Stellantis buy out?
Interesting news
A little safer in an understatement. The easiest way by far to steal the car is thru the computer, or neutral release. Sleeping a lot better these days with a phab sleeve knowing they can’t erase my key. Fastest one I’ve seen stolen was like 45 seconds. The updates usually freeze the radio anyway, minor set back to have the dealership update it. Also you get 3 keys in a cat 👿. Don’t give these thieves free Wi-Fi updates when your car is gone, and if they find it you will probably need a new window and key re-programming…
Don't loose your key fobs and hope your current software is good if you decide to do it.
Is this the same for new 2022 models? Does anyone know?
Us lil r/t owners don't have to worry lol it's just an r/t right???. But, a few things I'll say i did. viper alarm with vibration and tilt sensor. vibration detection to your phone with low jack. and key fob signal blocker. If they get pass those, then great insurance. It'll be an upgrade anyway lol have at it
If you don't want to get the update buy you a club that locks your steering wheel & brake pedal together as one club for when parking in public, after market alarm with shock sensor, & aftermarket kill switch 1 for ignition & the other kill switch for fuel also as well get a custom steering wheel that you can remove completely off & take in the house another thing to is there is a neutral lock cover that a person is selling to everyone to keep anyone from putting your car in neutral & rolling your car even if they dis connected the battery can't do nothing still can't turn the wheel or roll it with or without steering wheel on or off
@Copyright Testing gotta protect everything nowadays especially things you work hard for & your life this is the world we are living in & thanks for the comment your the real g for even seeing & reading my comment
Why not do a firmware update and add a mode like valet mode where you can shut down the ignition with a pin code? Seems simple to me. Just like your cell phone.
I stay in mallard creek 😂and I don’t which park you’re talking about
I got that letter the other day on my 2021 scatpack that I ordered on September. You’d think this update would’ve been already installed since the came up with in mid summer!!!
ordered a '21 sp on 09/26. still waiting for it to arrive at the dealership....
@@jonkeefer6865 oh wow, unbelievable.... I was so anxious to get mine since the day I placed the order.. I can't imagine what you're going through. Mine is winterized right now due to snow and haven't touched it in a month :(
@@salpanahi yeah, i bought snow tires and rims, but they are just taking up space in my garage!! the car left the plant 12/02. been in niagara falls storage lot since 12/03.mopar says no eta to dealership......
@@jonkeefer6865 damn, that sucks, what I've heard is that lately the train and the trucks will not load the cars unless they're 100 % full capacity
@@salpanahi which is bs. i'm paying a $1500 delivery fee. ship that mf... i was talking to someone on a forum, and his arrived at a lot in november, and supposedly just shipped out from that lot over the weekend. total crap on dodge's part.
Are there updates for the jeep srts? It doesn't say they have the same issue.
This is why I’ll just drive my regular ass Honda 😩🤣
Also if you do the update...make sure you have all the keys because once they do update the keys are locked into module....so if you lose a key you are done...you will have to buy new module...the dealers will have a special down load and code to enter software updates...also be careful because dealers are marking keys up through the roof.....dealers are charging up to $500 a key.....but I did find a mopar online wholesaler that sells for about $130 plus tax...you will have to prove your address and picture ID for security.
What site?
The Security Software Update clearly has a huge benefit; that is denying thieves the ability to replicate a "FOB" and then take (steal) the car. I would imagine that once the RF Hub is locked, there must be a method in which any future updates could be directly downloaded into the vehicle by the dealer at the dealership (re: Dealership's Computer connected directly to vehicle and then any new future software updates for the vehicle could then be done). Regarding having more than 2 FOBs: I suppose that some folks might want to get a 3rd (or 4th?) FOB made before locking the RF Hub; personally I'm fine with just the original 2 FOBs, as I keep the 2nd FOB secured at home, and not close to or near my vehicle is garaged (garage not attached to house). Thoughts, comments?
same. still waiting on my 2021 to come in, but i'll have 2 fobs since it's new. i plan on having this done at the dealership before i even leave the lot with the car. i've waited almost 4 months for th car now. i'd hate to start all over again.
2021 also need to make a appointment
Also My understanding is that should someone steal it without The actual key fobs with This New system it won't go over 5 mph
What happened to the security update that would limit car if stolen to 5 miles an hour ( something like that)? It was supposed to be out by now. People say install a kill switch but won't that disable remote start?
this update only stops them from reprogramming keys. relay attacks will still work unless you put your key in a faraday pouch. relay attack basically mimics your already working keys.
Relay attacks aren't as common as breaking in and reprogramming a key.
Faraday Pouches are awesome, I use one.
So if you get the update....and disable your keyless entry through the evic system in your car....you should be completely good...except for a tow truck...