Large Concrete Pad Pour With Bagged Concrete
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- čas přidán 28. 04. 2020
- In this video I demonstrate how I pour the largest section of the concrete patio using bagged concrete. It was an ambitious undertaking, as a one man crew, however during my previous concrete patio pours I was able to work faster using a concrete mixing drill. I figured with the masonry drill I could mix enough concrete bags to pour this large patio area. As the video shows I was able to pull off the entire concrete pour however it was challenging. It still took consider time to fill the entire formed area of the patio and this meant the areas poured first started to set before the concrete poured towards the end.
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All the videos of this concrete patio construction project...
DIY Concrete Patio 1 (without rebar)= • Pouring A Concrete Pla...
DIY Concrete Patio 2 (with bagged concrete) = • Pouring a Concrete Sla...
DIY Concrete Patio 3 (concrete sidewalk) = • Pouring the Concrete S...
DIY Concrete Patio 4 (fill dirt elevation) = • DIY Concrete Patio Pro...
DIY Concrete Patio 5 (forming and pouring concrete) = • Forming and Pouring Co...
DIY Concrete Patio 6 (large concrete pad) = • Large Concrete Pad Pou...
DIY Concrete Patio 7 (screed concrete trick) = • How to level concrete...
DIY Concrete Patio 8 (concrete control joint tip) = • Is Using a Concrete Gr...
DIY Concrete Patio 9 (best way to mix concrete) = • The Best Way to Mix Co...
I also show a concrete working tip regarding installing a control joint in a large poured concrete surface. Sometimes the concrete groover tool does not create a groove deep enough to work as a for sure cracking point. My solution is shown in the video. - Jak na to + styl
Admire your work. I'm 69 and poured all my sidewalks and patios by myself and yes it always kicked my....Getting ready to do one more last slab myself, 14 x 14 and will work it into four sections.
Thanks Rich, Kudus to your past concrete projects and hope the new concrete slab project goes smoothly. Stay hydrated!
Very cool. I like your methods.
Nice job all-around! Cheers!
Much appreciated Shawn, Thank you!
Sounded & looked like a solid theory with sinking the board. I noticed the shadow moving across the patio in this video & realized how shaded it is. You're fortunate your house is nicely positioned relative to the sun. You & the family can really enjoy the patios at any time of day. TFS!
Thanks J. I figure the board should help make a more reliable control break joint in the concrete patio slab. I made an effort to try to as much of concrete pouring for this project during times it would be most shaded. Thanks for noticing!
I finished a 5 pad pour recently. I did all my mixing just when it was light enough to work outside. That slowed the curing time down a lot, and, it was much cooler to work. You did a great job, I like the large pail and drill mixer you used.
That is great concrete pour tip. When in a hot location to pour when it is cooler out like in the morning. Congrats on you concrete pad project. How many bags id you end up mixing/ Did you mix with premixed concrete bags or mix the cement and aggregate components yourself?
@@MrKistel In total I used 46 premixed 4000psi 80lb Quickrete bags. Each pad was much smaller than yours, and I did them separate from each other. I mixed by hand in one of those tubs you started out with and a garden hoe. The week I did it, we hit over 100 degrees on 2 of the days. After each pad cured for a few hours I covered with plastic and let sit for 2 to 3 days, also had a pop up canopy keeping the sun off. The finish is not as smooth as a professionals but I still like the end results.
I feel your pain. Just did an 8x8 pad with my wife. Did it all with a shovel and a rusty wheel barrow.
That is a big concrete slab to pour when mixing with only a shovel. Hope you have recovered physically!
Nice work. Ambitious for sure. Lesson learned. Im the same way.....always chasing that satisfaction of doing it myself.
Thank you and yes the satisfaction was very gratifying once the concrete project was complete.
Excellent! Love your presentation and video style.
Thank you kindly Franklin, best of luck with your DIY projects and I hope you stick around for future videos here. Working on a wood retaining wall project at the moment!
Agreed. It gets to the point without unneeded BS.
You are one busy guy!
Thanks Glen, the concrete patio project is wrapped up but now it has created other have to do projects to add to the list!
Total inspiration. I used to just call the GUYS. And then I used to call the pumper. The prices are outrageous nowadays. Your way is better IMO. No bad stress of the hurry-up and truck problems. I like your 4 bucket mix idea. I might try 12 Home Depot buckets and line them up, and copy your way.
Thanks Tom. Best of luck with your project.
Great job
Thanks C White
Felicidades buen trabajo maestro me gustó ese proyecto
muchas gracias
Great solo job.
Thank you. Yes concrete projects can be a challenge when working by yourself, but doable with some determination.
Thank you 👍
Thanks for watching
Good video. I'm preparing to DIY a long-ish road out of concrete here in Japan. Thinking of pouring it in small sections like you did. Good advise at the end, to "have a team."
Best of look with your concrete project. Please share how the process goes for your DIY build.
your a beast good job WOW , I would of thought noway
Thanks, and yes about half way through I was highly considering throwing in the towel on this concrete pour project.
I have pretty much the same drill as you and I also mix in a plastic garbage can, I found that I can only mix one bag of concrete at a time effectively. I only use that method now for sand mixes, mortar or grout. I use a small mixer that mixes 2 x 66lbs (30kg) bags are a time, biggest batch at one time, 44 1/4 x 66lbs bags, don’t remember but I think it took just over an hour... Damn near killed me. Takes a lot a heart to do concrete by themselves, you’re a machine, keep up the great work! Thanks!!!
Thanks for your insights to mixing concrete and mortar mixes with a drill. Regarding mixing concrete, I agree that mixing only one bag at a time is ideal.
Love the time lapsed.
You are carefully explaining your process then you're tiptoeing really fast to tamp the dirt. xD
3:21 I think part of the problem with drying is that there are different levels of water in the mixture for each slab so some take longer to dry.
Thanks for watching and your insight regarding concrete curing. Ya, the time-lapse is necessary or the vids would be longer then a feature length film. HA
@@MrKistel lol k
You're a bad man...I don't think I'd tackle that myself,but I'm a little over the hill for that kind of job..
It wasn't too bad to pour the concrete pad by mixing bags of concrete mix. Having said that I have not replicated the project since the making of this video. HAHA
good job, next time wet your sub grade, it will give you a longer work time the moisture in the concrete won't be sucked into the sand as quick
great concrete pour tip, thanks
I would think putting some rebar down would prevent the different sections from shifting over time. You would have to notch out your center form boards to allow the rebar to pass from section to section, but I think it is very doable and would help out the stability a lot in the long run.
correct, drill a hole in the forms that are in the field where the other slabs will be. cut 3' sections so about 18" are in each slab connecting. i would say put one every 1' or so should be fine. then when you remove the board you have 18" of rebar sticking out into the next slab area. you can also paint the edge that will connect with the blue concrete bonding agent they sell. concrete is so permanent its sobering. this way if it needs to be demoed out you could also do it with a rented jackhammer and not have to cut so much metal like a traditional large slab with continuous rebar or metal mesh throughout. i just repaired the edge of a built in swimming pool that had cracked away from the patio and sunk. it was pumped with pressure grouting underneath to raise as best they could then i had to build up the edge and then connect to the new poured patio edge. whew.
Top job mate.
Brisbane 🇦🇺👍🏻⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thanks 👍 and it is always good to hear from someone from "the land down under."
@@MrKistel Hi 🤚
I am 59 ,I have been a professional handyman for 7 years working at a retirement home ,I have renovated 3 houses and had a brick paving business for 3 years with 2 staff,and worked on large buildings site for 2 years.I have a strong interest in concrete and read about it a lot.I see on CZcams and I see tradesman in my area laying concrete wrong.you must stick to the principles of laying /building / making Concrete.
You are doing just that on a small scale with good results.great job.☑️
1.wetting the ground before pour.I prefer 200um black plastic , the pro concrete trade done because it slows there troweling and finishing up to much ( poor things ) .most I see never wet the ground first.
That wet concrete is in a chemical reaction a drying out at a rapid rate , a dry ground sucks the water out of it and when it’s all finished and payed for and every one is happy….bang that concrete starts cracking and never stops .
Same for wetting it after finishing like you do, the strength is greatly increased.
Plus you laying what you can handle,so many pour to much in one pour.
I really liked your small job,it’s looking neat,level and strong.
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I did 45 bag's and mixed with the weelbarroe and my friend was just doing the finished part. Plus I enty a full truck of sand. 😔 I have respect for you plus you working smart !!!.
wow kudus to your project and thanks for the comment
How many bags were mixed in that whole section you just finished?
Ground needed it to be wet enough to not dry up concrete.. so fast .👌🏾
good concrete pouring tip
Hardy board was great idear just because you now have back up in case you couldent poor it all in the one day
i wish i would have seen this earlier I would have sent you a Steele Mixer!
Thanks for the consideration. Mixing concrete with a shovel and pal can be a brutal workout!
Good job!
Thanks! Really appreciate supportive comments. Best of luck if you have a concrete project in the works.
I did it too. I used 100 bags (80 Ib) for: A walkway, extended on my current patio, and a 6'x8.5' cement slab for a shed. It took me over a week and 4 days. It made me soo soo soo tired ( thru 7 am - 8 pm; 7 days). What I learned, I will use a smaller project to mix cement for myself. If I need anymore than 10 x 10 (and more), I will pay a truck to fill. Now I know, I will prefer paying a cement truck. lol.
Wow that sounds like a big concrete project. Kudus to you for doing it DIY style.
Did you use Sakrete or Quikrete? I will be doing a 10x10. My Local store has Sakrete. A lil further away from my home, the store has Quikrete. I'm hesitant on using Sakrete only because it seems to have more gravel or bigger gravel. I have no idea if this will make any difference. Jus asking to gain some insight
@A Mr Hey there. Don't get too much hesitant. Lol. Sakrete brand is the industry standard. Most people use it. Sakrete gives you more cement (by 80Ib bag) and a lot cheaper and they already added gravels into the cement mix. If you want to do a 10x10 cement slab, Sakrete will harden nicely - especially, you want a walkover everyday (Car, boat, house, shed, etc.). I've also used Quikrete. If you want to "fill holes" and you don't want to mix, then you can just pour the cement powders to fill up a hole, then you can just pour water. In two or three hours, this Quikrete cement will get hardened'ish. After 24 to 72 hours, I saw a few cracks and I didn't like it. In my opinion, Quikrete is not as strong as Sakrete. It's only good for filling a hole. However, both items do have their own purpose though. If I want to do another cement project in the future, I would use Sakrete any time. I hope this will help.
2nd, gravels are not as big as you think in the cement mix bags. On the average, the gravel sizes can be around 1/8" to 1/5". Remember, you have to use a Placer and trowel(s). Once you finish, all gravels will be under the surface.
@heut4384 Thanks you for easing my concern. I had already bought 20bags of sakrete. I was not looking forward to loading them back in the truck to returning them.
I will give it a go and see how it turns out
I hope you are doing well sir! I have watching and following you. Thanks for the awesome videos! In this pour what is the dimensions of this framed out area? How many bags did you use? How deep?
Thanks for watching and the comment. Check out this total project video to see additional details about the DIY concrete project. czcams.com/video/GJxY-FoV2CE/video.html
Thanks for the video. I plan on making a 20' x 20' pad. I thought about making one 5' x 5' pad at a time. Would that be okay? Since I'm doing it by myself and using a drill to mix it.
That sounds like a reasonable approach to me. I like the concept of making a large concrete patio area with smaller independent slabs of poured concrete. Having it sectioned like this makes it possible to work in realistic time windows with a one man team and the individual sections are less likely to crack.
Spend the money and get an electric concrete mixer!
@@vikings844
Ive poured/mixed enough concrete by hand to agree...
Good job! I would have rented a concrete mixer and get it all done in 50 minutes. Cheers
Thanks, I find concrete mixers work best when you have a small crew as opposed to a one man operation.
"Oh hey kitty" now get outta the way!
I wonder what would be more effective to use between the drill mixer or a barrel mixer like the ones home depot sells
Barrel mixer works well but it can take several minutes to mix each load adequately.
Oh brother... That was a poop load of concrete to hand mix!!
You will respect that slab for the rest of your life!!
it was a workout for sure
Nice work. Would have been nice to hear about time delay to properly float and finish
I am definitely no pro when it comes to concrete finishing. The finishing aspect is the art part of concrete work. Really experienced concrete guys just know when the best time is to work the surface of the concrete into its finished appearance. Some guys say wait a certain amount of time after the pour like an hour to a few hours before you trowel finish but there is no standard set time that works for every project. There are many variables that will differ at each jobsite that will effect the initial concrete setting characteristics like temperature, humidity, sunlight, and so on.
If it's 95 out and sunny. Sometimes it's ready within 25 minutes after pouring.
If it's 45 and shady and humid. Sometimes it takes 2 hours before it's ready.
one concrete finisher would be able to pour and finish that easy, and something that small with only foot traffic only needs to be 4 1/2 inches at max through the middle with rebar dowels in the existing slab
This is crazy dude! I admire your work ethic and you do good work but you need to get yourself an electric cement mixer! You can get them fairly cheap at Harbor Frieght or spend alittle more and get the Ryobi one at Home Depot I the one I bought and love it.
Thanks, yes a concrete mixer can be helpful for sure. I switched up concrete mixing techniques after this and show those details in my other videos regarding the DIY patio build. Links to those vids in the video description area if curious
The Ryobi mixer is the way to go.
That looks like a very useful and strong pad. However surely hiring a small electric mixer would have saved your back, been quicker and fairly inexpensive. I actually bought a second hand one for about $80 and it's easily paid for itself after only a few small projects. Anyhow nice work.
Thank you, the concrete pad is definitely getting put to the test and fairing well. Using a concrete mixer to mix the many bags of concrete may have been a good idea. However I feel they work better with 2 or more people and can take considerable time to mix each bag.
Any particular reason why you went with Sakrete over Quikrete? Im asking because Sakrete has bigger gravel as compared to Quikrete.
It happen to be what was avail at the big box store at the time I purchased.
im planning on doing a larger patio soon... just doing my homework. i will also probably use bagged mix since where the location is wont be easy with a truck and if i do smaller sections like you did would be more managable... i dont want to pour a large section and be rushed to finish the surface(would also like to stamp it) but my question is, where your slabs meet, should you saw where the control joint is?
I am not sure I am clear of your question. If you are talking about adding control joint anywhere a new slab meets an old slab edge or existing control joint, then it is probably a good idea to add the new control joint in line with that edge of control joint.
@@MrKistel i think that answers it... basically like the video... two sections poured at seperate times but bud up to each other... i didnt see where a control joint was added
nice work, just wondering how many bag i need for 12x12 4 inches thick?
Sound's like you have an exciting DIY concrete project in the works. Awesome! If you have a preferred concrete mix company I would encourage you to visit their website and check out the online calculators they provide to determine the amount of concrete product you need. That should help you figure the amount of bags of concrete. Please share how your project turns out and thanks.
I would like to know this also. I cant get a truck into my back yard. Pumping crew and machine is too expensive.
hi there
do you recommend this brand(SAKRETE) is it easy to work with? my local store only carry this brand and i was searching to see if it any different from other concrete mix , im doing kinda of sidewalk in my yard ..so any thought?
I am know concrete expert but i assume the brands available at most home centers are good quality regardless of the specific brand. I think the more important consideration is selecting fresh bags where ever you buy it from. That being said I think the fiber reinforced concrete mix is a good mix for extra rigidity.
@@MrKistel thank you appreciated...I got my self a few bags of portland cement I will add To the mix that should take care of it.
Hey I’m thinking about to lay bricks and make my patio a room do you think the concrete slap will sink because how heavy the bricks are ?
Sounds like a big room addition project! I am not sure of the ability of your concrete slab to hold brick. When a new structure is designed to hold brick walls there is usually a substantial concrete footer underneath.
@@MrKistel well it holds the patio roof pretty well.
@@angeloroz4206 Have you seen my porch conversion to new room video series? czcams.com/play/PLphvPxBw0anjtLukPi8t1qYAX3vIEthG4.html
To help with the concrete setting up and the amount of time your pour takes I would have poured the whole bottom half first than went back and poured whole top half so you have fresher more workable concrete on top rather than working left to right I would have done bottom to top
Anyways great job 👍🏻 I’m sure your glad it’s over with
Thanks and that could work. Part of the reason for pouring the concrete the way shown was the ability to screed without having to stand in wet concrete. Not sure I could pull that off if I did a bottom and top concrete pour approach.
termites?, good ideas never thought of that
Thanks Jack, do you have a concrete project in the works?
@@MrKistel yes, i have to concret around house so that noe water comes in house, huge project, that why i asked,
What was the measurements of the area you did in this video. Thanks
I want to say the section of concrete pad shown in the video thumbnail was like 10 feet by 8 feet or so.
Control joints are meant to give the concrete a place to expand and crack, if you're using something that can't flex or move like wood it completely defeats the purpose
I consider control joints and expansion joints two different things. In my mind a control joint is a line where you want the concrete to crack because the concrete pad will likely crack somewhere. The thin area of concrete encourages the crack to take place at the applied control joint. Expansion was not considered a concern where these control joints were made. Expansion joints were also use in this concrete project as well.
How many bags of concrete were you mixing at once.
Just mixed one 80lb bag of concrete at a time.
To thick for foot traffic bro, 75mm or 3inch with crush rock base and 200centre mesh should be sweet.. anyway job👍🏽
Hi, why haven't you done the concrete slab up right to your house? Why is there a gap all the way round? What do you do about that? Thanks
To leave space to apply termite treatment to the ground near the house perimeter when needed.
@@MrKistel Thanks for the reply, ok cool. I'm in the UK where termites arent an issue, theoretically could you just take the concrete right up to the walls? Or is it good practice to leave a gap regardless?
@@jnoonanuk it might be a good idea to leave an expansion joint but otherwise generally ok to pour the new concrete closure to the existing structure.
Is it just a standard bag of concrete you use? I take it the coarse aggregate sinks away from the surface so you don't see it, not sure what type of bag to buy.
For this project the "standard" premix bagged concrete available at the local big box stores was utilized.
@@MrKistel Thanks
How many bags are needed per square foot, 4 inch depth?
I would recommend checking the website of the brand of concrete you intend to use. They usually have an online concrete calculator that will help you estimate bags needed for a given volume.
What size was the area you poured?
The concrete pad area shown in this video was about 13' X 10' in total area made from pouring four smaller concrete slabs.
What is the size(dimensions) of that area in this video, and how many bags did you use?
I believe the whole concrete patio project, which includes an area shown in my other videos as well, ended being around 180 80lbs bags of concrete.
@@MrKistel 🤯Wow!! Ok. I have a 13x15 and help, but your video was spot on!!! What's the name of the machine you used!! After watching this I have a lot more confidence to do my job!!(with help of course...lol)
@@jermainefant2027 thanks! see the video description for the information regarding tools. Best of luck with your concrete project.
@@MrKistel Ok. Koolbeanz! My apologies if I overlooked it! Thanks @MrKistel
you forgot rebar?
I intentionally did not use rebar in this concrete slab project. I describe why in the previous concrete video in this patio creation video series.
I’m hiring a teenager to mix the cement in my newly bought cement mixer.
Good luck with your concrete pour project. Hope the video was helpful.
Smart. Same here. About to by a mixer to do even bigger jobs at home but will use younger workers to haul and load bags
Jmdpo17 It was the best decision ever. It was hard enough doing the spreading and finishing, I was beat up just doing that for 4 hours. My son appreciated the money too so win win. Good luck.
I've never seen concreting without reinforcing mesh.
Mesh was determined not necessary for the load intentions of this DIY concrete patio.
was it cheaper than contractors?
If I put a $ amount of value on my time invested probably not. If just pricing the materials used then yes it was cheaper do DIY the concrete patio.
Its one thing doing bathroom reno oneself that you can appreciate later one that you did it yourself but doing work like this yourself and thinking you gonna save money is dumb. The amount of labor is not worth it. Best way to approach this is to hire 1 or 2 day laborers give them $100 for the day and order ready mix truck delivery for the cement. The whole job would've taken a couple hours and the added expense would've probably be a few hundred dollars. Well worth it.
why did you not put slab connecting to house?????????????????????
One of the main reasons I left space between the new concrete slab and the house was to leave an area open to make it easier to apply preventative termite treatment.
This looks like fancy editing. I don't see you filling in low spots. Screeding by your self is very hard although you do admit to that.
Thanks for the comment. I hope the DIY concrete video was useful for you.
nice job, what is the thickness of concrete?
Thanks, the concrete patio is 4 inch in thickness for most areas up to six inches in some places around the edge.
How big was this?
I would guess around 10' X 12' for the concrete section on the one side of the porch.
@@MrKistel doing mine Saturday. Mines a 10x12. I was nervous but this gave me a little more confidence, thanks for the vid
The Steele Mixer mixes a bag of concrete in less than 40 sec and it needs no power!
Xwould it be cheaper to buy sharp sand and cement making own concrete instead of bags
Perhaps it some cases it might be less expensive to buy the concrete components individually in bulk and mix the appropriate portions by oneself. For this particular project it seemed most efficient to purchased the premixed bags of concrete.
Only watching because I want a concrete pad I can lay on instead of dirt
best of luck with your concrete construction project
You could have put 1 bag of sand to every bag of concrete and made your concrete go longer
Thanks for the concrete tip however I was happy to use the premix bagged concrete as is and I am happy with the results.
Next time just saw cut the control joints once ur concrete has dried
definitely an option. Thanks
Good effort, but...
Appreciate you watching and the comment
Be honest, u thought that was vitaly in thumbnail.
Nice job, Save yourself bucket 🪣 of money 💵
Thanks. To be honest I find it hard to determine if I save money when performing some DIY projects. If I do not count my time, then yes it appears I only pay for materials and tool usage expenses. This figure is likely less if then I hired a professional to do the project. On the other if I added value to the time invested in the project/s, for example if I had an hourly rate, the total project cost might be higher. Try to make a video on top of that and it becomes expensive to do DIY projects. hahah. However I personally enjoy most DIY projects and tackling the challenges they present. I feel I am paying for my education so to speak!!
Honestly he barely saved $100 over ordering a ready mix cement trick delivery for the job.
Not how a pro would do it but, I guess a pro will be there eventually to do it correctly.
The method shown was determined the best concrete pour approach for this application and overall situation. Feel free to share how the concrete project could be improved from your perspective. Thanks
lol, you looked like you aged about 10 years from start to finish.
haha, it felt more like 20
Everything done is this video is wrong and incorrect. This guy had a good jackhammer video in the near future
Feel free to elaborate on what you feel is incorrect in this concrete pour demonstration video, thanks.
This screams poverty
No, it screams ingenuity. The people that have the guts and know how to do something for themselves that most people hire out, often have MORE money, not less.