Why Do So Many People Want to Move to Nicaragua 🇳🇮
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- More and more people are considering the move to Nicaragua. What are the driving factors making this small Central American country such a desired location? Why is #nicaragua the hot new #relocation destination for #expats especially from the United States and Canada?
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Born and raised in the USA. Always thought that I would move to Isla Mujeres, Mexico. I took 18 month long trips to the island over the years. In the year 2000 while on the island I had a visit with psychic Sabina Tamm. My last question to her was would I retire to Isla Mujeres when I was 50 years old? She looked me straight in the eye's and said "No. You will retire at 50, but not to this island. I don't know for certain where, but you will go further south of Mexico". 14 years later, one week before I turned 50, I quit my job and moved to Nicaragua! Funny! Best part was because my mother was born and raised in Nicaragua, I had automatic citizenship and didn't have to go through all the steps to become a citizen.
Very cool. Although for the rest of us, residency is quite easy in many cases. It's not automatic, but our ability to move here is essentially automatic and residency doesn't kick in as a process for 1-3 years.
How long have you been here now?
NICARAGUA IS BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY 🇳🇮👍
Why I'm interested in moving to Central America: the friendly people, lower cost of living, not too far away, no more driving in the snow, it's beautiful. Why I'm interested in moving to Nicaragua: the friendly people, really low cost of living and the ability to hire household help, low violent crime rate, it's close to Costa Rica with all it's adventure tourism, Nicaragua adventure tourism. Why I'm interested in moving to Granada: it's central location, the colonial architecture (yes, I know Leon has colonial architecture, too, but ...), it's on Lake Nicaragua with all of its kayaking possibilities.
Oh, I forgot: I'm a country girl. I currently live on 2.5 acres outside of a small town in Oregon's Coast Range. I have to drive everywhere - there is no public transportation. And the country road I live on has no shoulder so I have to drive someplace to go for a walk or ride my bike safely. I do not want to live in an American-style city with high-rise buildings, so Panama City is out! But a small city where I can walk virtually everywhere, so I don't need a car, sounds wonderful to me. I like the idea that in Granada (and Leon, and probably others, too) there are places to eat and shop in the neighborhoods.
Retired and live on the coast, playa Marsella . sjds. The interior has brutal heat.
Thanks!
my pleasure!
My friend and I are heading to Nicaragua next month!!! We are so excited to see the beautiful culture and people❤️ I definitely have been getting hate and negativity from my family- they are saying it’s war torn and dangerous and are scared for me but every thing I have researched tells me otherwise
It's completely the opposite. There's no war, it's not dangerous. The most danger you are in is every minute you are not in Nicaragua. Your safety begins once you arrive.
That sounds great!!!! I live in the Barrios for the last 20 yrs in Tucson AZ. It just got way hotter the last two years so I am looking for something higher altitude that is a little cooler,or maybe Leone, I like the city, I like beaches, volcanoes. I believe I will have to vacation down there and see how that feels. You are inspiring and down to earth on your view.
Thank you :)
Boaco is off the beaten path. I have not encountered any expats there. My wife's family live in the area and own ranches/farms well outside the city -dairy and beef producing, primarily. Lots of horse riding available, but little of the comforts some expats would expect. Limited night life, but lots of blending and interacting with the community.
You know,
This passion of yours, the delivery of your context is top of the line -
I saw a blog about some yahoo wanting to copy your style and all, Pinolero something I think they go by
Not even close to the amount of knowledge you have, suffices to say, you leave these folks in the dust.
Thank you!😊
Thank you so much!
Great video, Scott !
We have been in Matagalpa for a month now. We got here right in time for the hottest two months of the year. Noon-5pm is hotter than we like but the rest of the time the temps are fantastic. Absolutely no need for a/c. We are guessing once we get into say the third week of May, the temps should be great.
We are 55 and 60 and retired. Lidia grew up in Nicaragua but we’ve been married n living in the US for decades. We were tired of the rat race and decided to move here in order to get out early.
We wanted to live around Nicaraguans and we wanted to walk everywhere, not drive a car. We thought a rental house would cost us $400-$500/month, but we found a very modest house that is 5-7 minute walk to Parque Ruben Dario and they wanted $200/month ! It is not as “fancy” as we wanted but checked a lot of boxes including a yard for our dogs. We only signed a 3 month lease but we love the location and our neighbors and may be here a while. It has a livingroom, good size kitchen, 2 bedrooms n 1 bath. We feel very safe here too.
We do eventually plan to explore other countries once our senior dogs are gone, but who knows….maybe we will end up coming back. Seems like our average TOTAL monthly costs here will run $1200/month approx.
If you are ever up this way, we’d love to meet you all !
That's super cool. $200/mo is what I keep seeing for nice little places around the city center. It's so affordable up there. I'll try to get up to visit.
Great to see a rundown on a budget.
3/24/2023 Since you showed us how colonial Nicaragua is with your videos. I have come to the conclusion that it would be a good place to enjoy, a long stay.
I'll choose Nicaragua in the coming weeks!
Let me know when you are headed down!
This is very informative and helpful. Thank you!
Hi Scott! Great video! Yes that would be great. I’m Nicaraguan born and family came to US when I was 5 years. Been here 40 years but so wan to move and live in Nicaragua. That info would be great! Thank you for the videos, again they are wonderful!
Oh that's awesome. I assume that you still have some family here? What region are you considering? And thanks!
I'm getting Seth Rogen vibes. I was all hyped up to go to Guatemala after a few days in Mexico and this has just completely changed my mind.
I do love Guatemala too. But Nicaragua is something special.
Very informative. Thank you
Very welcome
Exactly Scott!. By the way,when I retire,I will go to Nicaragua, definitely!
And Nicaragua makes it easy to retire so much earlier!
@@ScottAlanMillerVlog That is right!.
Excellent video Scott
Thank you very much!
I like your cool idea. I would totally go for it. I need get serious about down-sizing so I can get rid of my house.
Awesome, thanks for the feedback.
You know, really, moving to Nicaragua is pretty much always about downsizing. Both because of the new lifestyle and because of the move itself, there is rarely a practical means of making the move without downsizing. But certainly moving into a "small home" here would be a dramatic change, but it can be a great one.
I am planning a trip to investigate retirement, i would totally live in a cool apartment in the barrio. I lived in plaza real in Barcelona years ago and loved it.
That's awesome. I love barrio living.
@@ScottAlanMillerVlogThank-you for your inspired content. I'm so pumped to proceed, would you recommend to apply for a retirement visa from Canada or bring documents to Nicaragua and do it there?
Nice videos. Any advice on resources (books, websites, services, immigration lawyers, etc) for those thinking about moving to Nicaragua?
No books, but that's not a bad idea. Website, no I don't know of one but I suspect that plenty exist (but I have my own going live VERY soon!!!!), and immigration lawyer, yes, my team has one that is available.
It’s a blessing and a curse but your very wordy. Please use chapters that allow us to jump ahead. You got right into it here but I’ve watched most of your videos and sometimes I’m 20 minutes in and wondering why I’m looking at an iguana in a pool instead of inside a home….that never even materialized. Anyway, now I’m the one that’s wordy lol I enjoy your videos and am coming down May 23rd. Expensive and limited options on flights
Jaja. Yes, I know. I only recently learned how to do the chapter markers, but finding the time to do them is hard. I need to be more diligent about it for sure. It does help when I do them.
A good thing about not living amongst ex pats...you wont pay high prices lol
They raise prices in areas filled with ex pats.
Yes it is an interesting idea. You already know my plan for January. But I’ve been rethinking it. Instead of just driving down the coast, I think it would be better to spend a few days in every beach community I’m considering. To really gauge the day to day life on the areas.
It's important to note you can't "drive down the coast", there is no coastal road. Visiting beach communities is generally a major endeavor from one to the next. You have to normally drive inland significantly to get to the main road, travel to the next road going to a beach, and return to the coast. So for example, going from Las Peñitas and Poneloya (which are a combined beach, we touch each other) to either Corinto in the north or Salinas Grandes in the south, each of which is just a long walk away along the sand, is at least 45 - 90 minutes by road between them without traffic.
So it isn't like you casually drive a coastal road and zip through endless beach communities. You have to make a planned effort to map from one to another and going even 20km can be a major undertaking.
So yes, spending time in ones you want to see makes sense.
@@ScottAlanMillerVlog yes I saw that on the map. What I meant is explore the whole coast. It will be a lot of backtracking. But worth it. Hopefully your hotel is still open so we can rent a room for our home base while in las Peñitas.
@scott. I’ve been enjoying your videos over the last week. Do you offer zoom consulting?
I would be interested to know this also.
Awesome, hit me up on Instagram at @ziffedtraveler or email me at...
info at relocate nicaragua dot com
Sadly you can't actually put email addresses in the comments.
I sure do. I think that I replied earlier but if I missed it, yes, I definitely offer that.
Cool hat!
Thanks!
I definitely want to check out Nicaragua but I have to do my research about the medical facilities. I have a few medical issues and that’s a major factor to me.
Overall health care here is pretty good. but certainly for specialty or acute issues it is common for people from here to use the larger and more broadly capable facilities in places like Mexico and Colombia. In this region it is akin to going to a specialty care clinic in the US, it is all so close.
Loved the show.
I would have been down a month ago Alan but I agreed to another construction project .I've spent lots of the time the last 10 years in Costa Rica having 2 surgeries and a few relationships .ja
I do attend to try out Nica life in about 120 days..I found your show helpful I've watched many others.
You ended with different ways of life an expat may choose and I having traveled and spent months at a time in Mexico as well as Costa Rica and panama I do better in the Middle class working mix .I am still a craftsman interior finish carpenter and will be somewhat working quite possibly on high-end residents or marina craft .where would u suggest and what city is that you live now ? Thanks and I look forward to more of your shows.
That's really tough. Labor in Nicaragua is super cheap and working as a craftman isn't allowed. You can do that for free as a volunteer, but actually doing that kind of work outside of your own house is not something that you can get a permit or license for. High end residents are few and far between. Mostly in San Juan del Sur, once in a while in Managua or Granada. Other than that, it'll be one here, one there. If you work you'll be stuck doing under the table cash deals and always risk being caught - and every Nicaraguan will have a strong interest in turning you in because they all feel it when someone takes their work away. THink about how Americans talk about "immigrants taking our jobs", but in the US there are so many jobs that that isn't realistic at all. But in Nicaragua, where unemployment is the #1 crisis and everyone is desperate for work, anything that eliminates a local job is both highly illegal and very much unwanted by the community. Anyone that hires you could be in big trouble as well, because they know that they can't do that here.
Even if you do find work, you'd likely find that the payscale would be so low as to be a waste of time. Local labor is so cheap, that's the biggest benefit of living here. High end homes won't necessarily care, but it's definitely the exception.
Because of all the legal problems with hiring foreign, illegal labor, there's also a pretty solid trend in expats doing work not really doing the work or doing it well as there can't be any legal recourse and everyone involved in trying to scam the system. So we always hear stories of "oh I hired a north american that said that they would do that and...." it's always "they stole the money" or "they never showed up to work" or "the work was shoddy and late" or whatever. Always unhappy situations. And we always say "why would you pay extra to hire an illegal when the legal workers cost so much less and legally have to do the job?|
What you CAN do is start a business that does the work you enjoy, buy equipment, and train Nicaraguans to do that work with your oversight.
Hola! Great video Scott. I'm glad your foot is feeling better. I know this is a loaded question and it all depends. What would you say the average humidity is where you live? Gracias!
Surprisingly low. We are near the ocean and yet our typical humidity isn't bad. We vary from around 40%-70%. So not DRY, but not very humid. It's not like Arizona in any way. But you don't have clothing unable to dry except on rainy days. Many days, I'm out walking at 94 degrees or higher and it feels pretty comfortable.
This video has some mistakes. Breakfast does not cost $80 in CR and SJDS has a big variety of restaurants.
Family of four in Liberia at the cafe, $84.
Scott
My seventh trip from Colorado to Managua looking for something to do in the Leon area. What do you suggest?
What kind of recommendation are you looking for?
Hey Scott,
I know the process with a tourist visa is after 3 months I need to go to my local immigration office, they take my passport, and I go back a week later and pick it up. I understand I get an extra month this way and this can be done 3 times after my initial 90 days. This gives me 6 months. Is this correct ?
What happens during these last 3 months if I were to go to Managua ? Would I get my passport back the same day ?
So I can get 6 months, do a run to CR, and cross back in and repeat for another 6 months.
So a long way of asking if I should go to the local Matagalpa immigration office or head in to Managua…
Thx very much !
Scott
I'm having rum with migracion right now. They say Matagalpa is easy just like Leon. If you want to go to Managua yes you can do it all same day. or conveniently from Matagalpa and just go a week without the passport.
Hi Scott, I want to live in Nicaragua because I want my dollar to stretch as far as possible, the consistent warm weather, and the cultural experience. The area you described is what I’d be looking for. To be immersed in Nica life not with the tourists. It would need to be furnished, not overly large; I’m by myself, but should feel big, open concept, open to the outdoors and natural light. I can’t wait for more posts on this.
Please someone open an Indian restaurant in Nicaragua! 😉
I'm seriously considering opening an Indian restaurant here. It couldn't be super authentic, but reasonably authentic at least. Nothing big, just like a tiny place, but a way to get good curry and dosa and paneer, you know?
I'm hoping to film a show in the next two weeks showing off one particularly common "Nica modern" style of tiny home. I'm excited to get into this particular line of stuff and in talks with a few folks about how we could offer these as rentals with everything included.
@@ScottAlanMillerVlog Holy shit, I love Indian food but barely know any place where to get a good nice curry around here. Would love to visit if you end up opening one.(Managuan Citizen here)
@@ScottAlanMillerVlog fingers crossed 🤞🏻 🙏🏼 for you. That would be exciting.
@@ScottAlanMillerVlog I’m looking for to this as I’m pretty lots of others are. 😀. Thank you for all the work you put into the information you’re a captivating speaker!
Lol it's been running 100-106 degrees since the end of February in northern Ghana add insult to injury the power has been out almost 24 hours straight ... Trash we got it lots of it...there's no beach in this area this is the worse place I've stayed in Africa. Definitely no variety in restaurants fruits and vegetables like East Africa... Another great video
Oh wow, that heat with no power is just awful. What is northern Ghana, is that like the Tamale area? Or even farther north? What made you pick the northern zone? Accra is obviously the popular Ghana spot to visit. I'd love to get over there and check it out.
I have a regular viewer and good friend in Malawi that I need to go visit. That region looks so interesting (and they have such mild weather!)
@@ScottAlanMillerVlog because like you I don't want to be around a bunch of expats lol i.e. I live in a fairly new HOUSE I paid about $700 for a YEAR where people in Accra area almost paying that per month running up cost squeezing the locals out. I hate that
@@ScottAlanMillerVlog the east is much better and most places have hot and cool temps northern Ghana has wet/dry season hot and hotter 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you Scott. As usually very informative. I am looking to move from the US for my early retirement living. I prefer cooler weather and simply quiet style of life in small town or even a village. Can you please suggest me a place in Nicaragua to check up during my trip which I am planing in the very end of May or June?
Cooler weather is not Nicaragua's thing, jaja. But your three main departmentos are Esteli, Matagalpa & Jinotega. All three are up high and have good year round temperatures. All three have key central cities, with lots of small villages not too far away. The three together are the highland cities and are some of the best parts of the country. If you base yourself in one of the cities there, you could pretty easily explore its outlying villages to see if there is somewhere that fits your vibe. Small villages outside of those cities will be very remote and probably have absolutely zero expats. So be prepared for a lack of hotels and ammenities. But also, super low prices.
@@ScottAlanMillerVlog Many thanks Scott. I don't want to bother you too much but I am really serious thinking of relocation and wanna ask you if I can count on some your help, just suggestions of your own experience, during my trip? I am a single, 63 year old but very active and healthy woman and before I had experience of travel different countries while I was living in Siberia, Russia. In 2000 I made a huge turn in my life to move to South Africa with my two teen daughters and it seemed not too bad idea that time and it was a beginning. As I have begun to know South Africa more I understood that my color of skin and age were pretty wrong to be successful and feel free in that country. As my girls got grow big and found their way to live and left me I took another big opportunity in 2006 I move to the US, Florida. And It was absolutely amazing. I worked hard and study, got my Massage therapist diploma and license, bought old house for pretty low amount to pay it in cash and begun my my home based business after 6 months of hard working on the house to make it possible to live and work from. (I can do a lot with my own hands and did most on my own as I had no a cent left in my bank account, I took a rip-off loan which I paid off just during one year since I began my business.) Now that almost destroyed house from $49.000 turned to a very sweet and special home, priced $200.000 Plus. Sorry for long story... I am retired and I do not wanna work too hard any more and decide to find a way to move again 😆🤣🤣. My daughters still in South Africa and I travel to see them and my grandkids every second year. I even thought to get back there, bad idea, as on my last trip I was robbed by three black male and, I guess, I would be killed as one had a knife, if I was not raised as a fighter 😀🤣🤣. I make them run with big problems, but with my cell phone and credit cards, which I blocked immediately as I got to place I rented. That last trip thought me a lesson, I should not move back. As I got back to the US I decide to find my own place where I will be both safe and happy and to take my older daughter with her 8 y/o son out of Africa to join me in that happy life 🙂.
If you stay with a tourist visa.. it's better to be by the border . Every 3 months you need to get your visa stamped. I go to liberia for shopping and visa stamp.
I fly into Liberia,, it easier than going to Managua if your staying in southern nica.
Only every six months. So the border runs, even from up north, are trivial for most people. For that one thing being near the border has benefits, but overall it's so minor, I'd generally not consider it as at most you must do it twice a year.
What part of Leon is best area to live in?
Now that's a loaded question. jaja. It really depends what it is that you are looking for. El Centro is downtown and the most expensive. That's where all the restaurants and shopping is. So that is popular and a lot of people like it best. But housing is old and limited. Very historic.
Fatima is often considered the best neighborhood. Huge houses available, some open lots. Really nice area, north side.
Santa Maria on the far west is tiny, but rivals Fatima. Some really fancy houses in a quite little spot by the university.
Veracruz is less fancy than those, and near Santa Maria, but has some really nice stuff and is a larger community with more going on. Fatima and Santa Maria are pretty sleepy.
Colonia Universidad in the south east is quite nice as well.
All of those offer high end mansions and amazingly ecclectic living options. but really you can find something awesome in nearly any area.
None of these will have anything listed online.
Is it safe to cycle? Like from Leon down the coastal road?
Traffic is always dangerous. Roads are narrow and full of people, animals, cars of all types, horse drawn carts. No one will attack you. But accidents are common. So you have to be super alert and aware. Cycling is common here, but often done with chase cars that block the cyclists from traffic. But walking the road, where you can see traffic and avoid it, is super safe. I've walked it.
Thnaks!@@ScottAlanMillerVlog
Hi Scott! One day I saw in your Vlog a system to work online from anywhere… can you provide me with link /info…. Thanks 🙏
I'm not completely sure to what you are referring. Can you provide me with some additional details?
I think it was your daughter that had a complete online work from home system to work, maybe 🤔 I am confuse.. thanks
Is "mortgage" much of a thing there??
It exists. Probably pretty similar to the US. Not widely available to foreigners. But locals do it all of the time.
When I mention to people that I'm considering moving to Nicaragua, they frequently say something like, "but isn't that a socialist country?" I hope I'm giving them the correct answer when I reply, "well, the President is a socialist, but from what I can see there's a lot of private enterprise going on."
Well and the REAL answer... "yes, thank goodness." LOL. Why would that be a negative? All of Europe is socialist. Pretty much all healthy countries are. Part of the American propaganda starts with making good things sound bad. They don't explain why good things would be bad, but they make people upset about them. Like quality healthcare is often despised by Americans.
So the trick to the conversation is forcing people to explain the basis for the issue. Start with "do you know what socialist means"? And if they do then ask "and isn't every part of that positive?" Nothing in a socialist system implies that free enterprise isn't allowed. In fact, most countries that the US labels that way have more freedom of investment than you get in the US. The US has extremely limited freedom for business people because so much of the economy are monopolies that buy their operating rights from the government.
There's no country in the world where you can't run your own business. The very idea that that is something that gets taken away is a myth that Americans make up to discredit other countries. But most countries look at the US as being less free and more government control. It's not just "socialist" because the government control is less for the good of the people and more just control for its own sake.
Almost no one actually runs their own business in America. It's sold as the American dream, but America is focused on few, very large businesses that are so large that the work hand in hand with the government and represent huge investment groups, not people. Most other countries, like all of Latin America, have huge numbers of smaller, local business with many times more business owners (per capita) because there are very few giant monopolies paying off government officials for big contracts or for the government to look the other way and give them a monopoly or whatever.
The things that Americans call "capitalism" mean nothing. Every country is capitalistic in the way Americans use the term. It's absolutely meaningless. China, Russia, every European, Africa, South American, etc. country has the freedom to open businesses. Every single one. It's totally mind blowing the weird things that Americans are led to believe about the rest of the world.
Socialist are just as much capitalist as anyone else .
Hello, want to visit Nicaragua. Do you know if a PCR test is still required for entry. That's unclear. Thanks.
Only if you are not vaccinated. Then yes.
@@ScottAlanMillerVlog Thanks for these up to date information!
My pleasure!
No test required as of November 2023!
it was dropped 5-6 months ago. didn't need it my last few times.
Do you have any sense that the affordability of Nicaragua may change in the future, and how long do you think it will last compared to other Central American alternatives? I know you don't have crystal ball, just curious if you have any sense of trend and longevity.
I think that it is going to last for quite a while. Nicaragua has been the lowest cost of living or nearly the lowest for many decades. Even if it does change, it is unlikely to be like Costa Rica or Panama, they are predictably more expensive than anything else in the region and expect to remain so as they have special relationships with the US. But for the mix of countries that Nicaragua is in, which includes Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and Mexico... all of them are within close percentages of each other so even if Nicaragua shot ahead and became more expensive than Guatemala (unlikely), it would remain very affordable.
@@ScottAlanMillerVlog
Many are counting on Trump getting rid of Ortega.
We’ll see
You mentioned Guatemala several times. That’s never been a place that was even on my radar. What are the cons of Guatemala in your opinion? Why did you not choose that country?
Guatemala is probably my second choice country in the region. For us, wanting to live along the coast, Nicaragua has a lot of benefits. The main benefit to Guatemala is the cold climate, but you lose that at the coast, you have the same weather as Nicaragua. Guatemala has vastly higher violent crime and higher cost of living. Those aren't reasons to avoid it, like I said, I love it there. But if you want ocean front living, Nicaragua has the lowest cost and highest safety. Those are hard factors to pass up. Plus Nicaragua is far easier to reside in. No one really comes close to Nicaragua for ease of moving to, staying in, or working in. Nicaragua has the best tax regime for foreign investors and those with foreign incomes.
Which areas are least affected by hurricanes & earthquakes (safer to live in) because "Nicaragua is prone to seismic and volcanic activity, hurricanes, severe storms and flooding." Thanks!
I'll do a video about that (adding to notes....) but while all these statements are true, they also aren't things that you actually worry about here. I'll make a video covering it as I've been meaning to anyway, but those things are presented from other governments to try to make it sound scary as if all of those things aren't worse in the country you'd be coming from. Nicaraguans don't sit around worrying about or planning around those things because they don't cause problems or risk like people think. Hurricanes hitting unpopulated jungle, for example, aren't scary like they are hitting New Orleans or Houston.
Hi Scott. Thanks for your great videos. Do you help people buy land in Nicaragua? We are many years away from retirement, but would love to invest in an affordable lot for the future. If not, is there somebody you recommend? Thanks!
We absolutely do! We are not agents in any way, we do no work on commission or get paid based on percentages. We just do flat service fees for whatever kind of assistance that you need. So that can be scouting locations, helping research cities, towns, regions; handling land transactions, hiring a contractor, or even doing interior design and helping source furniture and artwork :)
Now is a good time to be buying land as it is so cheap. You might want to look at homes too, as the cost of building remains mostly stable, but existing homes are at an all time low, as is land. But just getting some land to be ready and do planning is a great strategy.
Thanks!!
@@ScottAlanMillerVlog Great. What’s the best way to communicate? Email?
Yes, email is best. For Instagram I'm just @ziffedtravel
Email is unable to be written directly on CZcams, but hopefully this is clear... info at relocate nicaragua dot com. :)
@@ScottAlanMillerVlog got it! Thank you! Talk soon
Nica is a beautiful place for sure. Here's hoping expats show respect to the place and the people. Cancun, Bali etc are where to go for a rave, DMT trip etc...not Nica
Yeah, that is one of the biggest challenges now. So many Nicas leaving, so many expats coming. Keepings things as we all love them is a challenge.
@@ScottAlanMillerVlog yes, there would be many locals in sjds who would prefer times passed I suspect
what bout cannabis smoking
Officially not legalized, but we hear that that is well underway. Likely to happen in the relatively near future. It's commonly done, of course. But officially it is illegal.
$80 dollars for a breakfast is ok for North Americans? Really, not in Arizona. Crazy comments