Talking Hogs and why you NEVER trust a boar
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- A little talk about hogs and things to consider before deciding on what direction you want to go if you’re considering raising hogs. We also discuss why you can’t trust your boar and other topics.
I misspoke in the video. I said 5lb at 30% was 1.8 lbs. I had a 6lb calculation in my head .
It’s actually 1.8 on 6lbs and 1.5 on 5lbs
Remington is an absolute chungus. A real unit. Be careful around him.
@bonefetcherbrimley7740 definitely!
As kids we were not permitted to go near the boar... Grammy said "if you fall down he will eat you." Dad always said there is nothing as dangerous as a 'tame' bull. I expect that also applies to boars. Good advice.
I don’t know if he’d eat you but definitely potentially make you feel that way lol
Turned my back on a boar 1 time, fixing a board and he rammed the board and n broke 2 fingers and my hand!!!! Definitely never turn ur back on em or put kids ANYWHERE around em!!!! Great video man, God Bless n stay safe brother!!!!!
That’s a dang awful situation. Appreciate the story!
@@RaisedHomesteading yep sir, u bet!!!! Hogs r a beast of an animal!!!!
I worked with a guy that turned his back to a boar one time in a pen, he ended up back out of the pen and needed over 100 stitches up the back of his leg and ass cheek, said he could not lay on his back for 3 months
That’s horrible. I’ve heard of people bleeding out. They’re no joke
@@RaisedHomesteading nope boars will mess ya up, well even sows will also, I have been chased by a sow for a good while one time been bit how I don't know many times, does not matter how nice and tame you think a pig is, you put a litter on a sow and she might not be so nice, boars they can and will turn on you no matter how tame they seem, we walk our daily like a dog on a leash and they still get wicked
Raised hogs when I was a kid in early seventies, my uncle next to us had about 50 hogs and raised his own feeders, he worked night shift at a local bread bakery , every morning he would come home with a pickup truck load of 3 day old bread that he got from bakery. He supplemented with corn and supplements from a local feed mill and it worked well. Great video you explain the reality of it all when you discuss processing cost and feed cost.
Appreciate it. Sometimes you have to be creative and just pay attention to what works
I grew up with my dad always having sows, boars, baby pigs and pigs that we were feeding out (early 70`s). My dad had two big boars and I was always afraid of them. I didn`t even like getting in with the sows when they had pigs. They weren`t pets, they were livestock.
That’s definitely the wisest way of looking at it
As far as your fences are concerned, I'd suggest looking into calf yard panels - they're made similar to cattle yard panels, but they're shorter and the gaps between the rails are a bit smaller. Also, if you have your boar's shelter shed with three pens around it, you can rotate him through the pens to let the soil rest in each pen, and any time you need to do work in his space you just shut him out of the place you're working - if you want to work inside his shed, shut the door so he's locked outside until you're done.
A lot of homesteaders seem to be working with very flimsy makeshift facilities, and while that makes sense while you're in the early experimental stage with your property, like you said - the only thing keeping him in that flimsy yard is the fact that he hasn't realised how easily he could push it down. It'd be a good plan to upgrade before he gets to thinking about fences as something to walk through, for your safety and everyone in the neighbourhood. Feral pigs are no joke.
Thanks for the advice. I have plans in place to extend pens. The pens are probably more sturdy than they appear, I break up panel lengths with some structure for support on each side to give them support, these hogs give them a good work out. My point was more that they can pretty much tear anything down and the strand of barbed wire is more for his nose and to keep him from coming over the pen. I don’t want tall hog pens in the event someone does need to get over it quickly for some reason.
The term Homestead is apparently taking a turn in definition on CZcams as someone who just on a whim bought property and started experimenting lol. I’m 50 years old and this is just how we’ve lived forever. We do have to budget but we adjust as needed and can. Appreciate the advice and thanks for leaving a comment.
we raised hogs when i was a kid, my bro and me had a pig from little piglet and they were the biggest grass puppys there was. when ya went in the pen they would come up and root on your leg till ya petted them they would hit the ground and wanted belly rubs, The boar like you said ya had to keep an eye on that dude. good video.. 👍👍
Appreciate it. They’re cool animals and fun for a pet until they’re not lol. Our boar was like that and that’s now my problem, he nudges wanting attention and belly rubs.
Very interesting...I never knew they were that dangerous...Great info
If you’re cautious, you probably won’t have any issues with a hog with good temperament. But remember they are huge animals that can get in some cases for breeding stock 700-800 lbs. You won’t have any problems with feeder size pigs as they’re typically butchered 5-6 months from weening, but are still fairly sizable
You make xlent points that most homesteaders dont seem to understand. I like a lot of fat on my pigs so that went we skin them, we dont cut into the meat. Love your channel! (DE deworms (diatomaceous earth) pigs, chickens, dogs, cats & people).
I really appreciate it. I use diatomaceous earth for chickens to control mites but have not tried it for pigs. I’ve seen people using it on CZcams but haven’t really personally looked into its effectiveness. The research I’ve done said it showed no effectiveness on internal parasite loads but might cause an animal to pass a few. I’ll have to look deeper into it. Thank you for the thought out comment
Just added bread to my pigs last week. So far they are still growing. I been giving mine the bread at night hoping that they don’t burn it off through the night
I’m going to experiment with it and keep an eye on them. I’ll tape the feeders tomorrow and give an update in a week or two. I usually feed them bread and a full helping of feed but I noticed my breeding stock getting too fat. So if this works by replacing some feed with it, it’ll be a game changer for us
What an absolutely gorgeous beast (the boar, that is 😁)! All of your animals look very happy and healthy. And what a clean, well kept farm! Your words of advice are obviously drawn from years of real experience. Thank you. Peace be with you. 💚
I really appreciate it. We are always learning.
I worked in one of Ohios largest pork producer barn. They have dozens of 8 barn facilities and hundreds of finisher barns. I’ve walked boars behind (Boar-Bots) which weigh well over 100+ pounds, and these guys could swing those bots around like yo yo’s. I never knew pigs could get as large as they do until I started working around these breeding programs.
It’s amazing how big they get. They just keep growing. At least for first 5yrs or so it seems. Gotta be stingy with feed so they don’t outgrow everything!
I've worked on cattle ranches and raised hogs. Personally, I've never felt threatened by a bull or a boar. That doesn't mean I turn my back on them but they really don't scare me.
You know what does scare me? Sows or cows with newborn babies. Don't mess with mama bear! I've seen guys get aerial lifts by protective cows while attempting to eartag calves, I've personally been chased by a protective sow more than once. Sows can move faster than a guy realizes!
The most protective sow I ever had, I wouldn't even consider setting foot in her pen at all for any reason when she had babies on her. She was also the tamest sow I ever had who would lean her head against my leg and let me scratch her ear when she didn't have a litter on her. The contrast in personality was interesting to me. That's the protective mother instinct I guess.
I absolutely agree with you on sows. I guess my main take is the shear size and power these boars have with those large tusks that provide a particularly dangerous situation. I watched several people letting kids into pens with them because they’re gentle, a non aggressive boar can bleed you out accidentally just wanting a back rub. Great comments and I appreciate the input. I did do a follow up video after realizing I did not say anything about the sows.
@@RaisedHomesteading I agree that the tusks are scary. I would definitely never allow children in with a boar, even if I was right there with them.
Ty for what you do and the education
Thank you for listening to me ramble
Was raised on a farrow to finish hog farm. Instead of soccer after school i had farrowing crates to wash, one time two boars somehow got together as they were housed separately Of course the dominance fighting begins. This one young employee wanted to be the hero and went in to seperate them. He spent a week in the hospital nursing his leg wound
He learned a valuable lesson the hard way
Some very healthy hogs, and glad you said to be weary of a male hog alot of people especially first timers get to comfy around them and can get bad hurt or worse. My grandparents raised hogs and we alway kept 2 females a hog for winter and one for spring and in summer we would go get 2 more, they had a big boar for along time and he was close to 600lbs named tank because he was impossible to keep him in a pen so he just stayed in the goat lot he never ran off because he was always fed and happy but he hated stray dogs never bothered are dogs but if one come too the house and he spotted it he wouldnt stop till he got to it and kill it, and he just got so hard to deal with we had to eat him the last straw was he got into my grandmothers flowers and that was it she said its time he goes so thats just what we did lol.
😆 Can’t mess with Grandma’s flowers! He messed with the wrong lady! Appreciate you sharing that story!
We just put one of our boars in with our sows and boy he is around 200lbs and the are probably 3-400 and I wouldn’t get in there with him. They were trying to throw their weight and push him away and never even budged him. There ain’t no way I would trust him and even more so when you throw him in with the gals
We have really gentle hogs as far as hogs go but you definitely have to be very cautious
your pigs have a great life! good space for them out in nature, with naturall trees and everytihing. God bless.
Thank you! Appreciate the comment!
He's got some Gloucester in him good looking boar he looks like he knows what his special purpose is 😅 yeah man you gotta keep em in front of ya all the time it only takes a second for things to go south and theres no material short of Kevlar gonna stop you from being cut by those tushes good video glad i found your channel
Yea his Sire was a Gloucester and the Sow was a Hereford. Definitely gotta watch em because they’re powerful and don’t have to mean to do it
@RaisedHomesteading you are absolutely right you said it in the video you just got grazed while he was lookin for some scratches... you know my grandaddy used to wrap an old piece of carpet around the trees the hogs used to rub on he said it kept em from tearing up the tree so quick maybe give that a shot on them bigger trees in his pen im looking forward to more videos ya'll take care and good luck
The thing that will always scare the crap outta me is these things eating you alive. Thank you for the informative video
I don’t know if they’ll eat you but they’re strong animals
First time on your channel, much appreciated, but (and there’s always a but), another option to owning a boar would be to lease one from a friend or even better artificial insemination (AI). Most vets can do it for considerably less money than owning a boar or maintaining a boar. Also, never turn your back on any “intact male livestock” sheep, goats, geese, roosters, bulls, stallions etc. thanks, “liked and subscribed “
Good points. Probably some good options for most areas on the boar, I like to breed for temperament and having a boar I know helps with that a lot. As far as AI the guys I’ve talked to didn’t have a lot of luck with it. The vets here that still make farm calls have to travel and they done got pretty pricey. If it didn’t take first go around, you’d be in the hole. To be absolutely honest about the whole situation….fewer people here are growing their own pork. If something happens and I stop being able to sell the feeders, I’d be money way ahead just buying a couple feeders every year. Between regulations, feed costs and cheap super market pork….most pig farmers in our area have went out of business. Bad thing about buying feeders here is, not many folks have quality pigs that don’t have some kind of fad pig mixed in. You definitely have some excellent points. This is one of those things that the area you live in and situation can dictate a lot. I really appreciate it
Guy in Hawaii got a baby boar, wild.Raised it up in his backyard.One day he went out to feed him and he wasn't happy.Charged the guy and caught him from behind goin up the steps to his home and the guy bled out.
Wild hogs are a big no no. That’s awful
The four basic components of any feed are carbohydrates, proteins, fats, and everything else - vitamins, minerals, fibre, that sort of stuff. Bread and wheat products will have a different ratio of components to what your pigs need, so if that's your cheap source of carbohydrates, it's worth asking your commercial feed supplier if they have a mix that is designed to be fed alongside bread products. It will probably be a lot higher in vitamins and minerals than the regular pig food that is designed to be their whole diet, to make up for the fact that they're eating less of it and bread is a bit of a micronutrient desert.
Thanks
I sold a Berkshire boar that weighed 1,200 pounds. He cut my rubber boots with out knowing it. So he had to go.
That’s a biggun! They’re definitely some power animals
Well you was very informative, thank you God Bless !!!👍
Maybe too long winded lol
500 years ago the lard off of a hog was more valuable than the meat, now we grow huge fields of corn, soy, and oilseed rape and cooking oils are relatively cheap and abundant. If you're trying to produce all your own cooking fat those trendy breeds of hogs are a lot more economical than trying to press sunflower seeds.
I feed mine bread as well as grower feed. In fact, mine are too big.
They definitely can get too fat
I raise Yorkshire and old spot My boar is a sweetheart hes about 400LB but there is no way I'd turn my back on him. I see Kunekune pigs as a pet it takes about 18 Mo's. to raise our They don't have enough meat for me. You have some nice looking pigs and gave good information.
I think it’s good information for people who haven’t raised hogs to know that they can hurt you unintentionally. Appreciate the comments
Interesting stuff about pigs Glen. Thanks for sharing!
Appreciate you watching
My son brought home 2 newly born feral piglets 2 weeks ago, male & female. But watching this video I’m scared now to keep them till eating age 😩😩
Are they domestic pigs that were turned loose or actual feral pigs? Most places it’s not legal to keep a wild feral pig and they are aggressive. If it’s a domestic pig that got out or was turned loose, you should be ok with it. They tame down fine. If you’re just keeping them til butcher size you probably won’t have issues. Just respect them
do they "only" get bread and grain? how about vegetables and fruit on discount, weeds (for free), branches (free) eggs, meat, fish and such? I learned in (norvegian) school that pigs will eat all, but I do not know if some of this might be damaging to the pigs.. but it might cut some more costs for you if possible to feed them with :)
I got a mini pot belly and he's getting this tusk, and sometimes when I pet him on his head he will yank his head up . Should I be worried or no? He's not a monster pig but he's definitely a solid guy
He’s not nearly the size of these hogs but definitely be aware that those tusks are designed for defending themselves and if he gets agitated or excited he could potentially hurt you unintentionally
How do get the piglet away from the mama... I did that once, and I had to run.. frfr 🏃🏾🐖💨
It’s just common sense to always be aware of your surroundings no matter where you’re at or what you’re doing !!!!
Absolutely! An old man told me that common sense ain’t so common anymore
@@RaisedHomesteading lol you couldn’t be more right!!
Sows can get pretty wild when they are in heat also.
Absolutely correct. I did a follow up about it.
That is a gooood looking boar!
I appreciate it
Your boar is a big one. What is he a Hereford? I've heard of Hereford pigs but never seen one.
He’s half Hereford and half Gloucester Old Spot
On the commercial side that what they do with hog feed, they get a lot of their stuff from bakerys
It’s definitely a good supplemental feed option
Great video! Alot of info! I see you live in the pine ,is it possible to grow crop in pine? Heard ita really hard because the pine makes the soil avidic and sucks yhe nutriets outta tha soil
Appreciate it. The pines make things difficult but you can plant in areas outside the woods, but definitely can’t inside the wooded pine tree areas
Great info Glen
Thanks Rod
They don't like getting punched in the snout. I've had too a few times to get them off of me.
Definitely can be effective if you’re able to
that is why you always carry a back up and always lookin 360 around you
Exactly
What about swelling your corn with water for a week with a little salt.
Back in the day, dad dewormed by feeding them coal. Also we feed a lot of bread too. It does work.
I’ve heard real coal works but have never tried it or know anyone who has. I’ll have to research it
I Remember my mom giving our pigs coal but I didn’t know why she did it . That was around 55 years ago .
Maybe install scratching wheel
Is this for every type of pig? I’ve seen a lot of pigs that are quite big but I’ve never seen a brown big with such a long grey nose. It looks closer to wild pigs to me. I’ve never seen these in Belgium before, but then again I’m not a pig farmer so I wouldn’t know.
This hog is a Hereford and GOS cross. His nose does have a lot of mud. Any hog that is what we call old line or heritage breeds will be big like this. Most hogs were bred for fast growth and feed conversion.
I love watching your video
Appreciate that!
He really loves you, I see how he's following you..🐗🐗🐖🐽
That’s my problem lol
THANKS!
Maybe there’s something useful in all that rambling lol
Name them all bacon and ham, and name all of the chickens eggs and wings.
Great video!!!
Thank you. A lot of talking but hopefully helpful to someone.
Good old Hampshire hogs are decent .
Hampshire’s are decent Hogs but grow a little slower than some breeds and are leaner, that’s why I like a cross. The Hampshire color or Red with white belt sell good
How many you raised in your herd? Looks to be Hereford boar with a few Yorkshire dows
Right now we’re keeping one boar and two sows, along with the feeders. Our boat is Hereford x Old Spot and our sows are both Old Spot x Hampshire. The red headed sow has a touch of Duroc from her Mom but just enough to put out a lot of red when bred with the Hereford cross boar.
The white in our sows comes from the old spot side, they were the most white from their litters when they were born
Getting here late to this video and might have missed you saying it. But what breeds were those two feeder pigs? They are beautiful!
They are half Hampshire and half Old Spot. The red colored pigs Mom had a small throwback gene from Duroc. My latest video talks about it
@@RaisedHomesteadingok thanks for the info. Just found your channel today. I raise my own pigs and do my own slaughtering and do like you and try to sell enough piglets to cover my cost as well. Gonna sub from Northeast Alabama!
@timothywright8698 Awesome! Appreciate that! It’s definitely a little bit of work but definitely not super difficult. I just see a lot on CZcams that seems misleading or not reality. Hopefully I can get some interesting content that’s also useful for folks
What are your thoughts on electric fencing?
It can work if you train them young, you don’t lose power, you don’t have anything fall on it and break it, it doesn’t get grounded out or a hog doesn’t get spooked and run it through it. I can’t afford the risk myself. It has to be looked after daily and I’m in an area that the liability of a loose hog could be costly. It’s doable but best used in tandem with a physical barrier fence to keep them from tearing the hog panel or wire up. This is my opinion of course
Wow
I'm getting hungry looking atem
lol. Mobile bacon
Hows the Kune Kune piglet? Thought you were segwaying into that little fella haha
Well, my wife wanted to keep it. We got extremely busy with sports and work and really didn’t have the proper diet nor desire to feed the Kune Kune. So when I was selling a feeder pig to a guy who had some little girls that wanted a pig for a pet and not food….I gifted them the little pig so they could give it a good home. It happened on the spot and didn’t even think about a video of it
@@RaisedHomesteading cool story if it makes a great pet for them!
Your boar is very handsome.
Appreciate it
My 2 year old cousin fell into the pig pen and they tore her to pieces in seconds . Never trust a hog.
That’s horrible but absolutely correct
Don't pigs eat everything though
No they really don’t eat everything and definitely shouldn’t. They’re like children, they will eat some stuff that isn’t good for them too
Also why not look into AI breeding, it will do away with the cost of keeping a boar.
It would but costs for a straw and shipping for one shot at getting it right is risky for a small guy. I’ve had friends that did it or looked into it but it’s not really viable on small scale. If you aren’t successful it throws everything off. Commercial operations are setup a lot better for it or bigger show stock operations
We trust our current boar with the little kids, but that being said, kids are NEVER in the pen without an adult at hand! Our previous boar i would never go into the pen with alone; he was pushy and nippy so while not aggressive per se, those behaviours are a hazard that i wouldn't risk. Mama pigs are the most dangerous, though - we've been charged by mamas when going into the nest to check out the babies! In fact, the only bites that happened here were from a mama pig. Conversely, we have a mama right now that we had to bottle-raise in the house... I was with her throughout her farrowing, and i can crawl into the nest and handle her babies without issue - when one squeals, she looks over and just says, "meh, it's just mama, they're fine!"
Every hog is different. Our boar has zero aggression but he’ll definitely hook you wanting to get attention rubbing your leg. Our sows are not aggressive at all except if you make a piglet squeal and then you better have a way out. I did another post addressing this. Appreciate the comment and sharing your experience
14 % next year
The feeders will get 14% last month to finish and everyone else gets 13-14%
They can be just as or even more dangerous then a bull thats for sure.
Absolutely!
Hogs are all muscle and low to the ground. They get you at the knees and you have no defense !
Absolutely true
Gotta get some chaps that encircle your legs, thick leather will give you some protection. They are also a good way to get rid of a body. 😮😂 just joking!
Lol
Mine haves 3 inch cutters
Yea as they get older those cutters get bigger. Like razors
@@RaisedHomesteading hes just a year old
@user-lr6qn8oj4h he’s growing some bigguns. I’d say ours are around 2”
@@RaisedHomesteading I'm in Kentucky so I don't even bother cutting their milk teeth or nothing
I know a guy who was changing a light bulb in a pen and the boar bit him between is legs he almost lost is testicles. He spent 3 months in the hospital.😢
Good Gravy! That makes me hurt
I cannot eat an animal i know… 😂
lol. A lot of people can’t. That’s why we don’t name our feeder pigs
Nice cop 🐷🐽
Lol them oigs 35 pounds maybe. Such false info on these little homesteads you guys raise 3 pigs for 6 months and feel like u need to give advice
What’s funny about this comment is that I’ve watched a few of your videos and thought you had a level head about hogs. Not sure what information was false unless you let the camera fool you and don’t realize that most of these lenses don’t show actual size because they’re shot in a .5 or less zoom and anything past 2ft looks farther away in distance. Not everyone raises commercially or has a market to raise a lot of pigs. We keep two to three sows and sell feeders in our area to cover cost to have pork for ourselves. These pigs haven’t been 35lbs in a good while. You might have a good argument with a different channel but definitely wrong about this one.
Interesting that you use the German Word "Sau" (Plural Säue) for female Pigs. Great they live in a natural Habitat !
I learned something new. We spell it sow.
I sold a Berkshire boar that weighed 1,200 pounds. He cut my rubber boots with out knowing it. So he had to go.
That’s biggun!