The Battle Between Kaye and Kathy Continues
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- Dr. Phil continues his conversation with Kaye, who says she has sent over $200,000 to her online boyfriend, even though she has never met him in person. Kaye’s stepdaughter, Kathy, says she thinks Kaye is wasting her retirement money on a con artist. Dr. Phil digs deep in search of answers - Is Kaye being scammed? (2213312)
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Her hatefulness is unnecessary…
What an extremely rude woman
They didn't talk about what is she going to do when her husband's money runs out. Her step daughter has a right to be concerned about her throwing away what he worked so hard for his entire life. This woman is horrible! She is unnecessarily nasty to the lady trying to talk & be kind to her.
This makes me wonder what she was like before this situation. So nasty. She definitely has a number of mental health problems.
It’s a cope
She is a nasty old woman, and very hateful.
She’s absolutely VILE! She’s almost worse than the scammer. The other victim was so kind to her too.
She seems mad at her for having a relationship with her man.
😢
I couldn’t believe how rude she was to that woman who doesn’t even know her and was just there to help.
Yeah, that sweet little lady didn't deserve that. She went to help.
If I was the step daughter I’d give her back all the jewelry step mom ever gave her and I’d never speak to her again. This has to be one of the most vicious women I’ve ever seen.
She knows that she's been scammed, she's embarrassed to admit it.
Yes. She hates that the step daughter is right.
The amount of immaturity from Grandma in this short clip broke my back 💀
@@VladmirPoopN lmao 😂 also your screen name has me hollering
She's messed up
Exactly. Which is why she is SO full of hate to her stepdaughter who she knows is right, and her response to everything is that she doesn’t care!
I do not feel sorry for this lady. I have never seen soooo much Pride in one person. She should apologize to everyone who warned her.
Especially the other woman who has tried to be helpful. She was just abusive to that other woman!!!
Yes
That woman was so in denial and so defensive she’s so rude to the people who care about her.
@shelleywarkentin9656 - I feel a little sorry for her but I agree with you that she's not easy to have sympathy for her. Her nastiness towards her step-daughter & the other scam victim is a defense mechanism. She so desperately wants this "romance" she's having with Aaron Mantini
to be true that she lashes out against these people because instead of seeing them as people that are trying to help her, she sees them as trying to destroy her fantasy of "love" with her "true soulmate" that she's concocted in her mind. Despite her nastiness and pride, I do at least sympathize with the fact that the reason the scam worked on her in the first place is that she's a widow from a 42 year marriage who's going through a combination of coming to the end of her life, grieving her deceased husband, & desperately lonely.
@@billdavis6900 you are right. I think she was mad at herself and took it out on others which wasn't right.
The other woman who was scammed seems like such a sweetheart. She didn't deserve to be treated that way by the evil lady.
I agree with you! Plus the amount of hatred in that woman's heart is shocking
Evil is correct. Very sad to have such a dark heart.
Sweetheart? Rude disrespectful to someone who loves her!
@@lauraalston8012I'm talking about the second lady not the nasty first lady who was scammed.
The way she disrespected her husband “in love or not” of almost 42 years is disgusting and the way she was screaming at his daughter beyond embarrassing imo
She was so disrespectful and insulting to her late husband, it was truly appalling and disgusting. I don’t feel sorry for her at all, you reap what you sow.
Her attitude is appalling
I feel so sorry for the step daughter. She lost the only mother she knew, and that step mother is vitriolic and cruel.
I feel bad for her too. How hurtful to be spoken to like that by the person her father married. It sounds like they once had a healthy relationship.
Guests are interviewed and asked a lot of questions before they go on the show. Step daughter probably talked about a lot more history with that woman and the editing crew chose to highlight her talking about getting new countertops and other gifts to fire up the interaction even more. These shows do that and it’s infuriating. I’m not sure this woman needed much poking though. She was even aggressive toward the other woman being scammed by the same scammer!
These elderly people who are sending scammers thousands, even millions of dollars are ensuring a crappy nursing home for themselves in the future. The kind of money this woman has/had, could pay for in home care. I don’t see anyone being willing to take her into their home to care for her, not after she’s spent her deceased husband’s money on scammers and disrespected his daughter on television like that.
Also, her name and information is on scammer’s radar now as someone who takes the bait. Someone will try her again, especially if she doesn’t change her personal information, such as email and phone number.
@@karacrawford6472Someone may try her again but she has less than $200.00 to her name.
Imagine being this old and having no emotional regulation skills, no critical thinking skills, and no family left. So sad.
All I can think about is her poor, dead husband and how on Earth he managed to stay with her for over 40 years.
@@angierae7653I agree with you 100%…and the way she is treating his daughter. He must be rolling over in his grave and to hear her say that he never did anything…wow he left her set up to be able to take care of herself if she was wise with the money.
Why on Earth do they go to another country to find a man when there’s probably all kinds of widowers who would love to have a companion. Not a very nice woman to treat her step daughter so terribly and also the poor little lady in the audience who was so sweet and had also been through it, so she could have had a friend there but she’s so full of pride that she can’t admit that she’s made major mistakes with her decision making. It would be terrible to watch someone throw away what took a lifetime of hard work to some scammer on the other side of the planet.
This is what happens when a Karen gets scammed.
LOL YES!!!
I’ve never seen so much denial from one person
exactly what i was thinking. D E N I A L especially when she started talking to the other lady in the audience
She thinks Denial is a place in Egypt
She wasn’t in denial… she knew what the deal was but was too embarrassed to admit so this anger is embarrassment mixed with putting on a front
She is one of the more unlikable guests I've ever seen. " Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks."
Agreed. Very nasty and hate filled.
Amen🙏🏼
Agreed. More repulsive than some of those horrible entitled spoiled teens.
In comparison, she can make some of those spoiled bratty teenagers look almost pleasant.
@@joanneesposito3295almost pleasant? I'd rather have resourse go to help them than this woman, all she needs is to backhanded
The hate in her heart is horrible. I pity her.
Why did she even go on the show? She is such a hateful old lady.
And all that hate is for herself, that's the stuffed up thing about this.
Saying "whatever" is so rude.
Calling her a "bi●●●" is even worse. She told her, " I hope u die on your way out the door." This 70 year old woman is nuts.
That was her dismissive way of saying everybody's been right all along.Even the daughter and she don't want to admit it because it destroyed her and destroyed the fantasy that was her reality
And a true sign of low emotional intelligence
I am a 70-year-old woman, who thankfully has a brain left. I have never been scammed.
It's more an issue of the woman being horrible to the step-daughter that's trying to stop her being scammed. The woman is just truly obnoxious and nasty 🤢🤢🤢🤢.
You go girl. Keep strong. Dont be desperate. There is much evil out there in the world. Surround yourself with family, friends and loved ones.
♤♤ True
good on you 🩷
When I was in my mid-late 30’s, I was on a dating site. I had a couple guys try to scam me. They didn’t but they can try to take advantage of people of all ages.
Kay is just unwilling to admit she had been scammed. What a rude woman.
What a hateful woman. No sympathy. She's ruined her family relationships and lost the money her husband earned. Unforgivable.
Stupid is as stupid does.She is stupid .-skin deep.
She’s been scammed it’s frustration for her to admit it SHES NOT EVIL GROW UP
@@AquaFonic Imagine her family's frustration who have had to deal with her utter delusion and rudeness!
This woman is so terrified of being wrong she uses hatred as a defense mechanism. She has no ideas what she’s losing being that spiteful.
I agree!
dr phil is far more patient than i could ever be with this woman
How foolish- sending a man you ve never met $200,000
Sending ANY man $200,000!
The step-daughter clearly loved her and was willing to loose the relationship to bring her back to earth. The pain of being hated by someone you love for speaking truth is hard. The mom's bitterness and hatred is a cancer. Sad and ugly hearted. 💔💔💔
She’d rather lose family than a scammer
After her health scare, she adopted a fatalistic attitude. "I'm old & going to die soon anyway, so let me experience whatever brings me happiness, even if it's a lie. Don't destroy this fantasy that brings me happiness." That's why anyone that gives her information that destroys the fantasy, she gets extremely angry with them.
GREAT ANALYSIS
Bingo
That's it. She feels cheated by life & bought the delusion. She'll care very much if she ends up living in her car. Her family cared enough to try to stop her so she wouldn't.
I have learned that a large percentage of people in these scams know it’s not real but can’t stop needing the dopamine hit they get from the “romance”. I’ve seen them go from one fake relationship to another.
So unfortunately she’s been a very sick and lonely elderly woman who felt like she had someone that loved her . She felt special, her feelings are hurt . She had lost her husband after 40 years and she wanted to be loved again . Her anger is because she was vulnerable . She’s sad about not just being scammed but with the reality that the love she believed was real was all in her head . She has a psychiatric problem . Depression is real she was willing to ignore the obvious signs to not feel the grief of losing her husband. Actually really sad for her.
That older lady is way too vicious I would just let her go let her be miserable on her own
I understand her, wanting to be loved, and all of that, but the venomous attitude that she has towards her stepdaughter was unacceptable.
No onereally needs.....love at that age. Its a choice. I know....
@@jokendrick2124- What? We NEVER stop wanting and needing love!
The step daughter needs to give up and let her end up
Homeless
She’s old to find love, instead she has to focus to love herself. She was loved by her husband and stepdaughter, that 42 yrs was a blessing. I got annulled at the age of 32 no children, until now i didn’t want to let anyone to handle the remote control of my life, a lot of scammers tried soo hard but they are the one who gave up, make them as your entertainer for free. Don’t let them manipulate you, instead let them dance on your hand.
The woman in the audience who was also a victim sounds so sweet ❤
I am 74 years old and get scam calls all the time and am too smart to be scammed.
Good for you. Keep it up.❤
Good for you. Keep it up. ❤
I’m 71 & do not listen to these scam artists. I just don’t get it. Why this lady is mad at everyone but the scammer. She deserves to be scammed.
@@user-su4yn7hh7iexactly! She deserves to be scammed, she refusers to accept common sense.
Hey Christine.❤😊
What's wrong with that woman? 🤦🏾♂️
And what's with the people cheering her on??? That blew my mind
A lot. Loneliness. No self esteem. Abusive. Depressed. Etc.
She's mad at herself tho she is taking it out on anybody and everbody😂
@@luciusjamalgreye I didn't like that either. Matter of fact, they are WORSE than her.
She is infected
She is mean😢
She sure is!!
Vicious would be a better description.
The grandma is delusional but inside she knows that he doesn’t exist. Instead of getting angry at herself she fingerprints at her stepdaughter
That’s exactly what it was…..
She doesn’t want to know the truth. She doesn’t want her delusion broken. Leave the sour lady to it 🤷🏻♀️
She can't handle the truth
Hard to feel sorry for such a hateful woman.
She doesn’t want to know the truth..
This woman is lashing out at the people that love her and wanted to help her. Now that she knows the truth she is so embarrassed that she allowed herself to be scammed of over $200,000 that she thinks she hates her own family. She seriously needs to forgive and realize how those family members had her best interest in mind. And clear to the end she was stubbornly holding onto the lie.
This mother is not only just behaving like this towards other people now. She has been a complete arse her whole life. Ignorant and arrogant, selfish and full of anger.
Fully agree with you.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!
She's so arrogant and I think she's eaten up by jealousy of her stepdaughter and the fact that the stepdaughter is a mother and has a boyfriend. Jealousy can drive people insane.
Wow, the stepmom is pride is getting in her way. She’s pushing everybody away. I’d be embarrassed.
I hope she watches this video and sees how utterly rude to everyone she was - I think she finally understood what had happened, didn't want to believe it, was embarrassed and lashed out. She needs help and I hope she accepts it and apologizes to everyone she's hurt.
They way she spits venom at her relatives makes all sympathy we have for her fall away.
💯🎯💯🎯
So... I don't know what happened between her and the stepdaughter or husband for that matter, but this is odd. Also... I must say I've seen a lot of these romance scammer episodes and 1. Sounds horrible, but I don't feel bad for this crabby old lady at all. 2. Dr. Phil sure is being patient with this nasty, disrespectful old bag.
Bag, or hag?
Having your fantasy shattered sucks but being rude to your own family and a stranger who was also scammed by the same mf is absurd.
This is the most selfish woman she could of gave it to her grandkids or anyone in need
She gave all her money to someone,who was in need. LOl. A fool and her money is soon parted.
Amazing she hasn't keeled over from all that rage and anger.
I have met people numerous times in my life that when you prove to them that something they believe for a very long time is incorrect they get so very angry. And some of them literally run away from the truth. I don’t understand why they can’t face it other than the rug being pulled out From under them is too difficult to face
It is actually really sad. To admit trapped into such schemes is very hard and you have to admit to yourself you were gullable.
It means it's become part of their identity, and when you rock the foundations of someone's identity, they feel extremely vulnerable and extremely threatened. It takes a very self aware person, and a person very grounded and confident in their identity to accept hard truths like that, and most people barely have any idea who they are, so they cling onto small things that make them feel significant, and when you strip that away all of a sudden they feel naked, exposed, and hollow.
@@DodgaOfficialwell said.
The older southern lady who also got scammed is so sweet.
“I don’t want to hear it don’t you speak English?!”
“I do…”
That made me laugh, I wonder if she ever said that to her Nigerian soulmate.
Yes, she is, she doesn’t deserve to be treated so rudely by the other woman. The Southern lady was being kind towards the guest, who, in turn, shot down the Southern woman’s attempts to help her.
You would think her bank would involved with any fraudulent transactions on her account...red flags on those transactions.
Not necessarily. The bank will do anything to help the customer but at the end is customer money and they can do anything they want.
I believe the scammers guide them through tricks to elude and deceive the banks etc. Baffling!🤔🤨
Kaye is a total jerk. To be 100% honest here.... This was the only time i was actally rooting for the catfish. Shes just so mean to everyone.... Including Dr. Phil.
I've been a widow for 23 years and have not been duped one time. I miss my husband of 18 years but I pulled my big girl panties up and very happy with my own accomploments and financial stable😊.
Good for you..🎉🎉
I admire your courage of accepting what is and being happy on your own..❤🎉😊
Please be careful, your story will attract them.
Right on! My husband passed 8 years ago (30+) years of marriage. I tried to date on a online dating service. ONCE was enough for me. I maybe lonely BUT not desperate. Lots of scammers out there be smart.
It is hard to watch what a scam can do to family relationships..
There's Something neurological going on here. The explosive rage and Behavior didn't just come from no where.
Or she’s just not a nice person. 🤷🏻♀️
Not necessarily some people are just mean and narcissistic unfortunately
I was thinking the same thing. A lot of signs of onset early dementia or Alzheimers.
Some people are just horrible…. My grandmother is like this, and apparently has been like this all her life
@@kimmichaud7741 She wasn't always mean. She funded the remodeling of her step-daughter's kitchen. She says some things too that make calling her mean a little simplistic. Telling that other victim "I don't want you in my life" was contextually irrational and came out of the blue. This disjointed thinking although subtle sounds familiar to me. She wasn't just being mean.
God she was so mean to the other girl that got scammed! Wtfffff!
She’s spiteful and mean. Not to mention she’s got no common sense.
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I had an experience with someone online. He didn't ask for money, but because of this experience, I don't trust people online.
There’s no one getting any of my money. And I don’t loan money either. I worked too hard my whole lifetime to just give it away. A man who truly loves you won’t ask you for money or jeopardize your security. The takeaway on this show for me is that there’s very lonely and vulnerable people out there.
Hey baby
I haven't got any to give 😏
CAN’T FIX STUPID!
Dr. Phil treated her with such respect. ❤
Its because he knows she is "compromised" mentally.
It’s toxic escapism…I feel badly for people like this, but there’s a desperation that’s palpable.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer person
She's sooo embarrassed but only makes it worse by her complete lack of grace!
She’s so in denial, but I think she’s angry at herself for being taken by this guy
This is the reason why it's imperative to learn to be happy own our own, everything and everyone is temporary in life however if you don't find contentment in being alone , you're always going to be running after people and situations..
It's sad to watch really😢 , she's not angry she's hurt, the pain is just manifesting as anger.
Beautifullu said
What's wrong with this woman. It's so sad 😢.
Why is this lady SO mad at her step daughter? She has fears that she has been taken advantage of and is taking it out on her step daughter. And I must say, my grandmother would NEVER act this way EVER! Her hateful language and lack of manners most likely have her parents turning in their graves. I know she is hurt and scared and it is coming out in anger but please, have more manners and act like a lady!!!
That venom is what she feels for herself she's just directing at those around her
I'm nearly 60yo and I'm pretty happy with my cat lol. It took me years to get free from my ex-husband. Never again! Learn to be happy without a man.
So much pain. 😢
She definitely is. It's sad. Hopefully she gets her money back.
Normally I feel sad or exasperated for people who get scammed by these online scammers. But this lady is so cruel and vile that I have no sympathy for her.
I can see why she couldn’t find “love” in real life because who could deal? She’s insufferable and I don’t feel bad for her.
The granddaughter needs to support her mother.
Public humiliation can't be easy to deal with. She's angry.
Such a disrespectful and rude attitude. Shameful behavior
The step daughter is way too invested in this vicious woman. Let it and her go.
I have zero sympathy for most of these women, and men , who do this! What idiots !!!!!
What a horrible woman. So cruel.
That relationship with the step daughter is gone, just like that. It's going to be hard to repair that relationship again.
Dr. Phil..... I'm begging you for an update on Kaye. 🙏 If I could have 1 wish... It's an update on Kaye and her precious Aaron. This was by far the best catfish episode, and one of the top 10 overall that you ever had.
That’s what I keep looking for.
This woman has a terrible attitude but in the back of her head, she knows she is scammed.
This woman must be so lonely that she has to deny the truth when its right in front of her.
Kaye Please your heart. Denial is a dangerous game to play on yourself.
Kaye - "Ignorance is a bliss"
She is so sad and defensive. Poor thing. And kinda vicious too…
She definitely is. She definitely has some mental health issues.
Classic Narcissist. She is in such denial, then plays the victim. As yes, she's a victim, but she's also a perpetrator. I don't really feel sorry for her. It's sad though that she lost all that money.
The woman could use some counseling, or a brain scan. She's fallen for an obvious scam, so willing to liquidate her nest egg, and she is so unreasonably hostile to her step daughter. She's got an issue.
I sure hope she apologized to her step-daughter!! The way she talked to her was absolutely vile
The Karen is strong with this one.
I hate to say it about an old woman but she is vile. She is going to be very lonely after she runs her stepdaughter off. The granddaughter doesn't seem to care about her. Maybe she is nasty to her too.
What a prideful, proud woman, too proud to admit it. You know, lady, life gets better and you can hold your head higher once you admit you were WRONG. Like Dr. Phil says, “You want be right?”
Wow! I'm 70 years old and I have to say I've never met someone so rude, vile and belligerent.
A nigerian romance scam has never happened to a more richly deserving person.
I concur
The emails didn’t even use proper English. This should have been obvious. Hard to feel sorry for someone who keeps giving her money away like that. These scams have been going on for way too long to not be aware of them.
She’s so obstinate that she would have never listened to anyone so it’s on her.
This is 100% an example of the truth hurts. The pain in her face, the tears in her eyes, let you know that she is hurt by the truth. She literally wanted to believe in her heart and soul that this man was real. and even if he was, why is it OK that he receives money from her or anyone else?
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
All of these old people who had a great long term relationship seem to think that they deserve/need someone else right away. They are so narcissistic…
She’s her own worst enemy…….. leave her.
Wthh. This woman has sent this man soooooo much money. She's given him $200,000 in one year so he can come "home to her" wtff. 🤦♀️. Edit: Now that she knows, she should be taking it thru the courts to get her money back. Why is Dr. Phil being so easy on this woman & the way she's talking to her stepdaughter. Just bc she's 70 years old, it still isn't right. Any of his other guests, he would have told them to stop or leave. It's almost like he finds her attitude funny bc she's 70. Odd.
Depends on the country. There was a case with a woman who was actually sending it to a Cartel to finance a war and could face jail time.
Dr. Phil is bearing with her for only 1 reason - to educate others who will see this show. I'm sure he's not enjoying
trying to work with her.
From one Kaye to another Kaye you’re not OK…So sorry you were a victim to these scammers. Your step daughter didn’t deserve the rage the scammers are the ones who deserve your rage.
That is a very misplaced anger Kaye shows towards her family. I wonder if the step-daughter and Kaye were ever able to repair their relationship.
It’s hard to feel bad for someone this awful.
This woman is so incredibly volatile and rude that it's hard to feel sorry for her.
She's defensive because she knows she's been scammed. She's embarrassed and feels humiliation.
Kaye needs a wake up call. being rude and completely disrespectful to family and friends. Just because she had a bad judgement call and lashed out to those trying to help her? Kudos to step daughter for her concerns and putting up with the disrespect.
This woman needs to realize that she is part of the scamming ring now. They are depositing money into her account. She can go to prison.
the narcissist being proven wrong is wild